Re: TinyTrak4 Setup as Digipeater
When BNKMODE =1 then the state of JP1 determines which bank of settings will be used by the TT4. NOTE: JP1 is also connected to J1 (Radio/Power connector) Pin 4.?? ?? That means you can "externally" switch between 2 settings. ?? BANK 0 settings when JP1 / J1 Pin 4 is floating (pulled high inside the micro) ?? BANK 1 settings when JP1 / J1Pin 4 is grounded If you build your own cable, a small toggle switch can be placed inside the DE9 connector back shell to switch the state of J1 Pin 4.
Ok, thank you.
Carmine W. Prestia, Jr., K3CWP Alpha Fire Company Firemen's Relief Association of State College Senior Magisterial District Judge State College, PA (he/him/his)
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Re: TinyTrak4 Setup as Digipeater
When BNKMODE =1 then the state of JP1 determines which bank of settings will be used by the TT4. NOTE: JP1 is also connected to J1 (Radio/Power connector) Pin 4.?? ?? That means you can "externally" switch between 2 settings. ?? BANK 0 settings when JP1 / J1 Pin 4 is floating (pulled high inside the micro) ?? BANK 1 settings when JP1 / J1Pin 4 is grounded If you build your own cable, a small toggle switch can be placed inside the DE9 connector back shell to switch the state of J1 Pin 4.
On Sunday, April 27, 2025 at 09:45:58 PM EDT, Carmine Prestia via groups.io <carmine.prestia@...> wrote:
One example of reducing posts size: ?? If BNKMODE = 0, the entire BANK 1 is half the file and will be unused.?
?? If you only post BANK 0, that would reduce what others have to "sift through" and save space.
What does this command do?
-- Carmine W. Prestia, Jr., K3CWP Alpha Fire Company Firemen's Relief Association of State College Senior Magisterial District Judge State College, PA (he/him/his)
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Re: TinyTrak4 Setup as Digipeater
One example of reducing posts size: ?? If BNKMODE = 0, the entire BANK 1 is half the file and will be unused.?
?? If you only post BANK 0, that would reduce what others have to "sift through" and save space.
What does this command do?
-- Carmine W. Prestia, Jr., K3CWP Alpha Fire Company Firemen's Relief Association of State College Senior Magisterial District Judge State College, PA (he/him/his)
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Re: TinyTrak4 Setup as Digipeater
Many Thanks Dennis.
Pete vk5dmr
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Re: TinyTrak4 Setup as Digipeater
Although not affiliated with Byonics in any way.? I thought I would add a comment posting size.
Posting entire configuration files when so many of the settings are "personal" is a bit much. Most of these group.io forums are free, but if users get carried away with space it may change. We should respect the size of things we post.
One example of reducing posts size: ?? If BNKMODE = 0, the entire BANK 1 is half the file and will be unused.?
?? If you only post BANK 0, that would reduce what others have to "sift through" and save space.
I know a lot of users want to see the whole configuration file, but that takes up a lot of space. For most 'sub-feature' there are only a few setting in the TT4 Alpha firmware that control them. Posting those setting would answer the question and reduce space. As an added comment, I highly suggest that any DIGI setting enable DIGIMY as this is the best way to test you DIGI settings without "lighting up" all the other DIGI radios in the area.? I believe both files had that set.
On Sunday, April 27, 2025 at 10:55:35 AM EDT, Jim Ebner <n8je@...> wrote:
I agree. It would also be nice for others that use it for tracking only to post their settings also. ? ? Jim, N8JE ?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Sammartino via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2025 8:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] TinyTrak4 Setup as Digipeater ? If you have a setup list, many of us can benefit if you post it to the Group. That's kind of the objective of the Group.
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Re: TinyTrak4 Setup as Digipeater
I agree. It would also be nice for others that use it for tracking only to post their settings also. ? ? Jim, N8JE ?
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Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2025 8:50 PM
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Re: TinyTrak4 Setup as Digipeater
Peter
Attached is the TT4 config I've been using at Maleny for the past few years.
Fixed location, with no GPS.??
Dennis? ?VK4ZDS
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Here is my digipeater file for the group.?
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Re: TinyTrak4 Setup as Digipeater
On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 11:46?AM Chiefsfan2 via <chiefsfan2= [email protected]> wrote:
Carmine, what is ur email address and I will send you mine.
I got it from your subsequent posting.
Thank? you very much!!!!
-- Carmine W. Prestia, Jr., K3CWP Alpha Fire Company Firemen's Relief Association of State College Senior Magisterial District Judge State College, PA (he/him/his)
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On Saturday, April 26, 2025, 19:50, Joe Sammartino via groups.io <jsammartino@...> wrote: Hi Chiefsfan2,
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If you have a setup list, many of us can benefit if you post it to the Group.
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That's kind of the objective of the Group.
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Thanks,
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Joe, Group Owner
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I also would like some details on doing the same. Thankyou Peter vk4 Mel / VK5DMR vk4nbl@...
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Hi Chiefsfan2,
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If you have a setup list, many of us can benefit if you post it to the Group.
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That's kind of the objective of the Group.
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Thanks,
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Joe, Group Owner
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Re: TinyTrak4 Setup as Digipeater
I also would like info on using the TT4 as an APRS digipeater
wd0ekr@...
Thanks, Jim wd0ekr
On 4/26/2025 9:46 AM, Chiefsfan2 via
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Saturday, April 26, 2025, 10:26, Carmine Prestia via groups.io
<carmine.prestia@...> wrote:
Good morning:
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I think this is my second posting about this question.?
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I have a TinyTrak4 and would like to set it up as a
portable Digipeater to cover some of our public service
events.
?
This would be a digipeater operating on the standard
144.390 mHz frequency digipeating signals from event units.?
My hope is to have the portable digipeater set up somewhere
to get weaker signals from units digipeated so local Igates
to get the positions on aprs.fi.
?
I have the TT4, a radio, PS, and antennas.? All I need is
the configuration for the TT4.
?
Searching YouTube and the rest of the Internet I have to
been able to come up with anything, not even generic
digipeater settings that I could experiment with.
?
Any help appreciated, thank you.
?
73, Carmine, K3CWP
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Re: Setting up TT4 for tracker
Thanks for the Help, I have it setup and running now. ? 73, Jim ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rob Giuliano via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2025 11:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Setting up TT4 for tracker? You can do that with the V0.72 Alpha firmware by using specific settings to disable unwanted features: Along with your normal tracker settings (Call, path#, SBEN related, PPeriod, ...) use these to turn off features ALIAS1 %???????????????????? (same fro 2 and 3) to disable DIGI function AMODE GPS??????????????? Assuming you are using the GPS on the first serial port ABAUD 9600???????????????? Match to your GPS BMODE TEXT?????????????? DEAFTEXT turns off this port, although I would leave it as TEXT BBAUD 19200?????????????? This makes it possible to monitor on a computer if you have a splitter CDLEVEL 20???????????????? This is still important as a bad setting will prevent you from TXing These may not be all the settings, but pretty close. Although you don't need to worry about the receive setting (RXAMP) using MONITOR, you do want to ensure your TXAMP are set for good decoding by other stations. On Saturday, April 26, 2025 at 10:22:59 AM EDT, Jim Ebner <n8je@...> wrote: It is the V7.2 from July 2017. I sent an email to Byron. I am only wanting to use it as a tracker and nothing else. ? Jim, N8JE ? ? Was the V0.72 (1284) from the Menu? The latest firmware does come in both versions (644 and 1284). So if it was just an educated guess, the best way to determine which chip is to use TeraTerm. ? At the ? send a b and it will return with TinyTrack4 V1.2b (644) or? TinyTrack4 V1.2c (1284). ? This works with any firmware I have used. I think you get it with Esc 3 times - the firmware and chip on the newer firmware versions is displayed. On Friday, April 25, 2025 at 05:40:35 PM EDT, Jim Ebner <n8je@...> wrote: And yes, it¡¯s the V0.72 (1284) ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rob Giuliano via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2025 5:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Setting up TT4 for tracker ? If by "newer TT4" you mean 1284 chip, the answer would be "not as is". Most likely Byon could recompile it - if he has the code.? But the TT4 already has all that code in the Alpha firmware. All you would need to do is disable the portions of the code that you do not want to use (DIGI, display, ...). ? ?It would still have receive capability, but the information would go no where. Just wondering - is there some reason you don't want to use the Alpha Version?
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FYI, there is no "R" in "Byon" :)?
73,
Allen AF6OF
On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 11:07?AM Jim Ebner < n8je@...> wrote: OK, thanks. I contacted Byron and he told me to give the tracking firmware a try that it won¡¯t hurt anything. If it works, than GREAT, if not then I will set up the alpha firmware. ? Jim, N8JE ? ? You can do that with the V0.72 Alpha firmware by using specific settings to disable unwanted features: Along with your normal tracker settings (Call, path#, SBEN related, PPeriod, ...) use these to turn off features ALIAS1 %???????????????????? (same fro 2 and 3) to disable DIGI function AMODE GPS??????????????? Assuming you are using the GPS on the first serial port ABAUD 9600???????????????? Match to your GPS BMODE TEXT?????????????? DEAFTEXT turns off this port, although I would leave it as TEXT BBAUD 19200?????????????? This makes it possible to monitor on a computer if you have a splitter CDLEVEL 20???????????????? This is still important as a bad setting will prevent you from TXing These may not be all the settings, but pretty close. Although you don't need to worry about the receive setting (RXAMP) using MONITOR, you do want to ensure your TXAMP are set for good decoding by other stations. On Saturday, April 26, 2025 at 10:22:59 AM EDT, Jim Ebner <n8je@...> wrote: It is the V7.2 from July 2017. I sent an email to Byron. I am only wanting to use it as a tracker and nothing else. ? Jim, N8JE ? ? Was the V0.72 (1284) from the Menu? The latest firmware does come in both versions (644 and 1284). So if it was just an educated guess, the best way to determine which chip is to use TeraTerm. ? At the ? send a b and it will return with TinyTrack4 V1.2b (644) or? TinyTrack4 V1.2c (1284). ? This works with any firmware I have used. I think you get it with Esc 3 times - the firmware and chip on the newer firmware versions is displayed. On Friday, April 25, 2025 at 05:40:35 PM EDT, Jim Ebner <n8je@...> wrote: And yes, it¡¯s the V0.72 (1284) ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rob Giuliano via
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2025 5:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Setting up TT4 for tracker ? If by "newer TT4" you mean 1284 chip, the answer would be "not as is". Most likely Byon could recompile it - if he has the code.? But the TT4 already has all that code in the Alpha firmware. All you would need to do is disable the portions of the code that you do not want to use (DIGI, display, ...). ? ?It would still have receive capability, but the information would go no where. Just wondering - is there some reason you don't want to use the Alpha Version?
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OK, thanks. I contacted Byron and he told me to give the tracking firmware a try that it won¡¯t hurt anything. If it works, than GREAT, if not then I will set up the alpha firmware. ? Jim, N8JE ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rob Giuliano via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2025 11:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Setting up TT4 for tracker? You can do that with the V0.72 Alpha firmware by using specific settings to disable unwanted features: Along with your normal tracker settings (Call, path#, SBEN related, PPeriod, ...) use these to turn off features ALIAS1 %???????????????????? (same fro 2 and 3) to disable DIGI function AMODE GPS??????????????? Assuming you are using the GPS on the first serial port ABAUD 9600???????????????? Match to your GPS BMODE TEXT?????????????? DEAFTEXT turns off this port, although I would leave it as TEXT BBAUD 19200?????????????? This makes it possible to monitor on a computer if you have a splitter CDLEVEL 20???????????????? This is still important as a bad setting will prevent you from TXing These may not be all the settings, but pretty close. Although you don't need to worry about the receive setting (RXAMP) using MONITOR, you do want to ensure your TXAMP are set for good decoding by other stations. On Saturday, April 26, 2025 at 10:22:59 AM EDT, Jim Ebner <n8je@...> wrote: It is the V7.2 from July 2017. I sent an email to Byron. I am only wanting to use it as a tracker and nothing else. ? Jim, N8JE ? ? Was the V0.72 (1284) from the Menu? The latest firmware does come in both versions (644 and 1284). So if it was just an educated guess, the best way to determine which chip is to use TeraTerm. ? At the ? send a b and it will return with TinyTrack4 V1.2b (644) or? TinyTrack4 V1.2c (1284). ? This works with any firmware I have used. I think you get it with Esc 3 times - the firmware and chip on the newer firmware versions is displayed. On Friday, April 25, 2025 at 05:40:35 PM EDT, Jim Ebner <n8je@...> wrote: And yes, it¡¯s the V0.72 (1284) ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rob Giuliano via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2025 5:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Setting up TT4 for tracker ? If by "newer TT4" you mean 1284 chip, the answer would be "not as is". Most likely Byon could recompile it - if he has the code.? But the TT4 already has all that code in the Alpha firmware. All you would need to do is disable the portions of the code that you do not want to use (DIGI, display, ...). ? ?It would still have receive capability, but the information would go no where. Just wondering - is there some reason you don't want to use the Alpha Version?
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Re: TinyTrak4 Setup as Digipeater
Carmine, what is ur email address and I will send you mine.
On Saturday, April 26, 2025, 10:26, Carmine Prestia via groups.io <carmine.prestia@...> wrote: Good morning:
?
I think this is my second posting about this question.?
?
I have a TinyTrak4 and would like to set it up as a portable Digipeater to cover some of our public service events.
?
This would be a digipeater operating on the standard 144.390 mHz frequency digipeating signals from event units.? My hope is to have the portable digipeater set up somewhere to get weaker signals from units digipeated so local Igates to get the positions on aprs.fi.
?
I have the TT4, a radio, PS, and antennas.? All I need is the configuration for the TT4.
?
Searching YouTube and the rest of the Internet I have to been able to come up with anything, not even generic digipeater settings that I could experiment with.
?
Any help appreciated, thank you.
?
73, Carmine, K3CWP
?
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TinyTrak4 Setup as Digipeater
Good morning:
?
I think this is my second posting about this question.?
?
I have a TinyTrak4 and would like to set it up as a portable Digipeater to cover some of our public service events.
?
This would be a digipeater operating on the standard 144.390 mHz frequency digipeating signals from event units.? My hope is to have the portable digipeater set up somewhere to get weaker signals from units digipeated so local Igates to get the positions on aprs.fi.
?
I have the TT4, a radio, PS, and antennas.? All I need is the configuration for the TT4.
?
Searching YouTube and the rest of the Internet I have to been able to come up with anything, not even generic digipeater settings that I could experiment with.
?
Any help appreciated, thank you.
?
73, Carmine, K3CWP
?
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Re: Setting up TT4 for tracker
You can do that with the V0.72 Alpha firmware by using specific settings to disable unwanted features: Along with your normal tracker settings (Call, path#, SBEN related, PPeriod, ...) use these to turn off features
ALIAS1 %???????????????????? (same fro 2 and 3) to disable DIGI function AMODE GPS??????????????? Assuming you are using the GPS on the first serial port ABAUD 9600???????????????? Match to your GPS BMODE TEXT?????????????? DEAFTEXT turns off this port, although I would leave it as TEXT BBAUD 19200?????????????? This makes it possible to monitor on a computer if you have a splitter CDLEVEL 20???????????????? This is still important as a bad setting will prevent you from TXing CDMODE TONES DIGIMY false
These may not be all the settings, but pretty close.
Although you don't need to worry about the receive setting (RXAMP) using MONITOR, you do want to ensure your TXAMP are set for good decoding by other stations.
On Saturday, April 26, 2025 at 10:22:59 AM EDT, Jim Ebner <n8je@...> wrote:
It is the V7.2 from July 2017. I sent an email to Byron. I am only wanting to use it as a tracker and nothing else. ? Jim, N8JE ?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rob Giuliano via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2025 9:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Setting up TT4 for tracker ? Was the V0.72 (1284) from the Menu? The latest firmware does come in both versions (644 and 1284). So if it was just an educated guess, the best way to determine which chip is to use TeraTerm. ? At the ? send a b and it will return with TinyTrack4 V1.2b (644) or? TinyTrack4 V1.2c (1284). ? This works with any firmware I have used. I think you get it with Esc 3 times - the firmware and chip on the newer firmware versions is displayed. On Friday, April 25, 2025 at 05:40:35 PM EDT, Jim Ebner <n8je@...> wrote: And yes, it¡¯s the V0.72 (1284) ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rob Giuliano via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2025 5:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Setting up TT4 for tracker ? If by "newer TT4" you mean 1284 chip, the answer would be "not as is". Most likely Byon could recompile it - if he has the code.? But the TT4 already has all that code in the Alpha firmware. All you would need to do is disable the portions of the code that you do not want to use (DIGI, display, ...). ? ?It would still have receive capability, but the information would go no where. Just wondering - is there some reason you don't want to use the Alpha Version?
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It is the V7.2 from July 2017. I sent an email to Byron. I am only wanting to use it as a tracker and nothing else. ? Jim, N8JE ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rob Giuliano via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2025 9:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Setting up TT4 for tracker? Was the V0.72 (1284) from the Menu? The latest firmware does come in both versions (644 and 1284). So if it was just an educated guess, the best way to determine which chip is to use TeraTerm. ? At the ? send a b and it will return with TinyTrack4 V1.2b (644) or? TinyTrack4 V1.2c (1284). ? This works with any firmware I have used. I think you get it with Esc 3 times - the firmware and chip on the newer firmware versions is displayed. On Friday, April 25, 2025 at 05:40:35 PM EDT, Jim Ebner <n8je@...> wrote: And yes, it¡¯s the V0.72 (1284) ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rob Giuliano via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2025 5:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Setting up TT4 for tracker ? If by "newer TT4" you mean 1284 chip, the answer would be "not as is". Most likely Byon could recompile it - if he has the code.? But the TT4 already has all that code in the Alpha firmware. All you would need to do is disable the portions of the code that you do not want to use (DIGI, display, ...). ? ?It would still have receive capability, but the information would go no where. Just wondering - is there some reason you don't want to use the Alpha Version?
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