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Re: alternate config not working
Kevin, The board is misprinted. The input for the secondary configuration is marked with the "T". The other input ( The one you are connected to now) is for an extra Telemetry input ( Analog, 0-5 Volts) You probably noticed that a .10 pin header did not fit quite right....its the Metric System! 73, Allen AF6OF
On Monday, December 2, 2024 at 07:26:21 AM CST, z_ kevino via groups.io <z_kevino@...> wrote:
I am helping a friend out who has a MICRO-TRAK RTG-FA (the PCB says V1.8 MT-RTG FA 2014-3-10.
We installed a .10 pitch jumper at the SW, and when shorted we would expect that the unit is operating on its secondary configuration. It is not.
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Verified the jumper takes that pin to ground and verified the secondary config is correct (by reading it back into the TinyTrakConfig v1.4 software). The difference between primary and secondary is only the frequency (144.390 on primary and 144.950 on secondary).
The unit transmits on 144.390 regardless of the position of the jumper on SW.?
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Any ideas ?
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-Kevin (KK4YEL)?
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alternate config not working
I am helping a friend out who has a MICRO-TRAK RTG-FA (the PCB says V1.8 MT-RTG FA 2014-3-10.
We installed a .10 pitch jumper at the SW, and when shorted we would expect that the unit is operating on its secondary configuration. It is not.
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Verified the jumper takes that pin to ground and verified the secondary config is correct (by reading it back into the TinyTrakConfig v1.4 software). The difference between primary and secondary is only the frequency (144.390 on primary and 144.950 on secondary).
The unit transmits on 144.390 regardless of the position of the jumper on SW.?
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Any ideas ?
thanks?
-Kevin (KK4YEL)?
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Re: Watch dog timer for Tiny Trak Four
a great? idea? and good application !! cheers? Mike? ZL1BTB
On Monday 25 November 2024 at 08:02:22 GMT+13, Robert AD6XJ via groups.io <91710robert@...> wrote:
I like it! I did sort of a similar thing with my MT-AIO in my truck-- I didn't want to have to remember to turn the APRS on/off as I drove or parked and I wanted the unit at the rear of my vehicle, farthest away from my other transceivers in the cab and I didn't want to run additional wiring. My camper shell had a live full time 12Vdc line for the dome light and an intermittent 12Vdc line for the roof top (3rd) brake light. Using those two circuits, a 555 timer IC, and a relay I made a ¡Ö20 minute timer to turn on the APRS and keep it on as long as I step on the brakes at least once within the time period. It made for an easy installation and hands-free automatic turn on & off as I travel.
I can now never forget to turn it on when I go nor off when I arrive. ??
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Re: Watch dog timer for Tiny Trak Four
Robert AD6XJ
I like it! I did sort of a similar thing with my MT-AIO in my truck-- I didn't want to have to remember to turn the APRS on/off as I drove or parked and I wanted the unit at the rear of my vehicle, farthest away from my other transceivers in the cab and I didn't want to run additional wiring. My camper shell had a live full time 12Vdc line for the dome light and an intermittent 12Vdc line for the roof top (3rd) brake light. Using those two circuits, a 555 timer IC, and a relay I made a ¡Ö20 minute timer to turn on the APRS and keep it on as long as I step on the brakes at least once within the time period. It made for an easy installation and hands-free automatic turn on & off as I travel.
I can now never forget to turn it on when I go nor off when I arrive. ?? |
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Watch dog timer for Tiny Trak Four
We use out TT4? as a digipeater ZL1ROT-6? ?and to monitor our repeater solar system electrics? its over an hours drive to and from our 2m Linear repeater site? so when the TT4 locks up its a real? pain.? ? After it doing it a number of times despite latest firmware upgrades? I decided to build a watchdog timer to reset it if it ever locks up . I monitor the Tx red led? ?not the DCD led? as I have never come on a situation where the red red had locked on? ?solid,? but many times when the DCD orange like is locked on . I use the red led to trigger a reset on the timer? so long as the resets continue to happen the timer never reaches its predetermined count? and wont? do a reset on the power to the TT4 . If the tt4 locks up,? it will stop sending packets,? the red Tx led wont reset the timer chip (cd4060) and the timer? will time out? and reset the power.? Im sure there are more sophisticated ways i could have built the circuit? but its what i had at the? time? when the device was urgently? required? ...so far? over 6 months? ?we havnt had to go up into the bush 4X4? ?and do a manual reset? cheers? mike ZL1BTB
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http://www.amalgamate2000.com/radio-hobbies/radio/Watchdog%20timer%20.htm |
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Re: TT4 config software
Thanks Rob, I have it figured out now. The stars finally aligned in my favor so we¡¯re up and running. Thank you for all your help.
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On Tuesday, October 22, 2024, 22:12, Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...> wrote:
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Re: TT4 config software
If you change them one at a time in TeraTerm, they don't take either? Did you set the Transmit Delay? box (msec/line) to 1 in TerTerm? What does the output look like in TeraTerm?? Does it look like characters are missing? Robert Giuliano
On Tuesday, October 22, 2024 at 09:38:28 PM EDT, Chiefsfan2 <chiefsfan2@...> wrote:
No they didn¡¯t take. These settings are intended for a portable digi local not meant to go anywhere but one local digipeat. Ok will note these settings. I¡¯m having a zoom with byonics to help me out also. Thanks |
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Re: TT4 config software
No they didn¡¯t take. These settings are intended for a portable digi local not meant to go anywhere but one local digipeat. Ok will note these settings. I¡¯m having a zoom with byonics to help me out also. Thanks
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On Tuesday, October 22, 2024, 20:32, Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...> wrote:
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Re: TT4 config software
Not sure if you response indicates things "DID" change or didn't change.? Did the changes you made take? A few things in the config that need to be fixed: ????BTEXT >/WIDE1-1 PRT DIGI What is your intent here?? This will not do anything except send a BEACON out that says NOTE:? The WIDE1-1 is not a path element, but just part of the text being sent. My suggested changes are highlighted below. DIGIMY TRUE????????????? This is handy for testing.? You can send a message with a path that include your callsign to test the DIGI functionPATH1? WIDE1-??????????? This provide the proper path element, so your packet will be PATH2 WIDE2-1?????????? Use % to make sure the element is empty (I prefer WIDE2-1 so it is DIGI'ed beyond fill-ins - recommended) TSTAT >TEST DIGI????? No real difference here, but I think the '>' just means "status" BTEXT?>PRT DIGI ????? Moved the path element to Path1 so that the TT4 will properly use it ALIAS1 WIDE1???????????? This turns your TT4 into a WIDE1 (fill-in) DIGI - no need for the extra '-1', the TT4 handles that Robert Giuliano KB8RCO
On Tuesday, October 22, 2024 at 04:05:30 PM EDT, Chiefsfan2 <chiefsfan2@...> wrote:
Ok Rob I did as you instrucked : restored TT4 Issued Export Command? Copied and pasted export data to a txt file then sent file back to TT4 unpowered the TNC and powered back up. Here is the file I sent back and only a few of these changes were made. The lat and long, paths 1 and 2 and the Tprotocal were not changed they remained default.? I am using a static location. I cant figure this out. I have experience with doing this with KPC-3 tnc's but this one I am scratching my head.? These settings will be for a prt wide1-1 digi and I will use the gps when deployed. but for now just trying to get it to work right?? BANK 0 P300 FALSE TXTDISP FALSE NODISP FALSE PPATHING FALSE DMSDISP FALSE MICETMV FALSE ENTS FALSE TELHIRES FALSE TELVOLT TRUE TELTEMP TRUE PREEMPT FALSE DIGIID TRUE WXPOS TRUE TELREAD TRUE FRAWDISP FALSE HRAWDISP FALSE WYPTXT FALSE PKTICOM TRUE PKTOCOM FALSE RPATHDISP FALSE LEDS TRUE PAVPEN FALSE DEC96 FALSE DDIST FALSE HEADERLN FALSE DMETRIC FALSE SOFTRST TRUE MSGCMD FALSE MSGCAP FALSE LRNTPS FALSE GPSCHK FALSE INTCLK FALSE DECSTAT FALSE DIGIMY TRUE??????????????????????????? DIGIMY FALSE TOSV FALSE TALT TRUE TSPEED TRUE TIMESTAMP TRUE TIMEHMS TRUE SBEN FALSE TSWPT TRUE AMODE GPS BMODE GPS ABAUD 4800 BBAUD 4800 BNKMODE 0 SSIDROUTE 0 ALTNET APTT4 MYCALL N0KQX-11 PATH1? WIDE1?????????????????????????? PATH1? PATH2 % PATH3 % TSTAT>TEST DIGI????????????????????????????????????????TSTAT /TEST DIGI BTEXT?>PRT DIGI ????????????????????????????????????? BTEXT >/WIDE1-1 PRT DIGI BPERIOD 20 TXD 40 MTXD 10 PERSIST 65 SLOTTIME 15 QUIET 10 TRNKMODE 0 CDMODE TONES CDLEVEL 20 TXLEVEL 128 TXTWIST 50 RXAMP 12 GWAYLEN 9 GWAYMODE NMEA GRELAYBITS 1 GRELAYRATE 0 GKRELAY 0 LOCATION 3812.5500N 10109.5800W GALT 1000 TSYMCODE # TSYMTABLE \ STATUSRATE 3 PPERIOD 0 MPPERIOD 0 SBSSPEED 5 SBFSPEED 60 SBSPERIOD 1800 SBFPERIOD 90 SBTANGLE 27 SBTSLOPE 255 SBTTIME 5 MMSG 0 TSOFFSET 17 TDAO 0 TPROTOCOL APRS TPSWITCH 0 TPERIOD 0 TVOLTTWK 128 TTEMPTWK 128 WPERIOD 0 ALIAS1 WIDE1????????????????????ALIAS1 W1 ALIAS2 % ALIAS3 % DUPETIME 30 FILTERCALL % TXFREQ 144.390 RXFREQ 144.390 RXSQUELCH 0 BANK 1 P300 FALSE TXTDISP FALSE NODISP FALSE PPATHING FALSE DMSDISP FALSE MICETMV FALSE ENTS FALSE TELHIRES FALSE TELVOLT TRUE TELTEMP TRUE PREEMPT FALSE DIGIID TRUE WXPOS TRUE TELREAD TRUE FRAWDISP FALSE HRAWDISP FALSE WYPTXT FALSE PKTICOM TRUE PKTOCOM FALSE RPATHDISP FALSE LEDS TRUE PAVPEN FALSE DEC96 FALSE DDIST FALSE HEADERLN FALSE DMETRIC FALSE SOFTRST TRUE MSGCMD FALSE MSGCAP FALSE LRNTPS FALSE GPSCHK FALSE INTCLK FALSE DECSTAT FALSE DIGIMY FALSE TOSV TRUE TALT TRUE TSPEED TRUE TIMESTAMP TRUE TIMEHMS TRUE SBEN FALSE TSWPT TRUE AMODE GPS BMODE GPS ABAUD 4800 BBAUD 4800 BNKMODE 0 SSIDROUTE 0 ALTNET APTT4 MYCALL NOCALL PATH1 WIDE1-1 PATH2 WIDE2-1 PATH3 % TSTAT /TinyTrak4 Alpha BTEXT >/TinyTrak4 Alpha BPERIOD 0 TXD 40 MTXD 10 PERSIST 65 SLOTTIME 15 QUIET 10 TRNKMODE 0 CDMODE TONES CDLEVEL 20 TXLEVEL 128 TXTWIST 50 RXAMP 12 GWAYLEN 9 GWAYMODE NMEA GRELAYBITS 1 GRELAYRATE 0 GKRELAY 0 LOCATION 1234.5678N 12345.6789W GALT 1000 TSYMCODE > TSYMTABLE / STATUSRATE 1 PPERIOD 0 MPPERIOD 0 SBSSPEED 5 SBFSPEED 60 SBSPERIOD 1800 SBFPERIOD 90 SBTANGLE 27 SBTSLOPE 255 SBTTIME 5 MMSG 0 TSOFFSET 17 TDAO 0 TPROTOCOL MIC-E TPSWITCH 0 TPERIOD 0 TVOLTTWK 128 TTEMPTWK 128 WPERIOD 0 ALIAS1 TEMP ALIAS2 % ALIAS3 % DUPETIME 30 FILTERCALL % TXFREQ 144.390 RXFREQ 144.390 RXSQUELCH 0 |
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Re: TT4 config software
Ok Rob I did as you instrucked : restored TT4 Issued Export Command? Copied and pasted export data to a txt file then sent file back to TT4 unpowered the TNC and powered back up. Here is the file I sent back and only a few of these changes were made. The lat and long, paths 1 and 2 and the Tprotocal were not changed they remained default.? I am using a static location. I cant figure this out. I have experience with doing this with KPC-3 tnc's but this one I am scratching my head.? These settings will be for a prt wide1-1 digi and I will use the gps when deployed. but for now just trying to get it to work right?? BANK 0 P300 FALSE TXTDISP FALSE NODISP FALSE PPATHING FALSE DMSDISP FALSE MICETMV FALSE ENTS FALSE TELHIRES FALSE TELVOLT TRUE TELTEMP TRUE PREEMPT FALSE DIGIID TRUE WXPOS TRUE TELREAD TRUE FRAWDISP FALSE HRAWDISP FALSE WYPTXT FALSE PKTICOM TRUE PKTOCOM FALSE RPATHDISP FALSE LEDS TRUE PAVPEN FALSE DEC96 FALSE DDIST FALSE HEADERLN FALSE DMETRIC FALSE SOFTRST TRUE MSGCMD FALSE MSGCAP FALSE LRNTPS FALSE GPSCHK FALSE INTCLK FALSE DECSTAT FALSE DIGIMY FALSE TOSV FALSE TALT TRUE TSPEED TRUE TIMESTAMP TRUE TIMEHMS TRUE SBEN FALSE TSWPT TRUE AMODE GPS BMODE GPS ABAUD 4800 BBAUD 4800 BNKMODE 0 SSIDROUTE 0 ALTNET APTT4 MYCALL N0KQX-11 PATH1? PATH2? PATH3 % TSTAT /TEST DIGI BTEXT >/WIDE1-1 PRT DIGI BPERIOD 20 TXD 40 MTXD 10 PERSIST 65 SLOTTIME 15 QUIET 10 TRNKMODE 0 CDMODE TONES CDLEVEL 20 TXLEVEL 128 TXTWIST 50 RXAMP 12 GWAYLEN 9 GWAYMODE NMEA GRELAYBITS 1 GRELAYRATE 0 GKRELAY 0 LOCATION 3812.5500N 10109.5800W GALT 1000 TSYMCODE # TSYMTABLE \ STATUSRATE 3 PPERIOD 0 MPPERIOD 0 SBSSPEED 5 SBFSPEED 60 SBSPERIOD 1800 SBFPERIOD 90 SBTANGLE 27 SBTSLOPE 255 SBTTIME 5 MMSG 0 TSOFFSET 17 TDAO 0 TPROTOCOL APRS TPSWITCH 0 TPERIOD 0 TVOLTTWK 128 TTEMPTWK 128 WPERIOD 0 ALIAS1 W1 ALIAS2 % ALIAS3 % DUPETIME 30 FILTERCALL % TXFREQ 144.390 RXFREQ 144.390 RXSQUELCH 0 BANK 1 P300 FALSE TXTDISP FALSE NODISP FALSE PPATHING FALSE DMSDISP FALSE MICETMV FALSE ENTS FALSE TELHIRES FALSE TELVOLT TRUE TELTEMP TRUE PREEMPT FALSE DIGIID TRUE WXPOS TRUE TELREAD TRUE FRAWDISP FALSE HRAWDISP FALSE WYPTXT FALSE PKTICOM TRUE PKTOCOM FALSE RPATHDISP FALSE LEDS TRUE PAVPEN FALSE DEC96 FALSE DDIST FALSE HEADERLN FALSE DMETRIC FALSE SOFTRST TRUE MSGCMD FALSE MSGCAP FALSE LRNTPS FALSE GPSCHK FALSE INTCLK FALSE DECSTAT FALSE DIGIMY FALSE TOSV TRUE TALT TRUE TSPEED TRUE TIMESTAMP TRUE TIMEHMS TRUE SBEN FALSE TSWPT TRUE AMODE GPS BMODE GPS ABAUD 4800 BBAUD 4800 BNKMODE 0 SSIDROUTE 0 ALTNET APTT4 MYCALL NOCALL PATH1 WIDE1-1 PATH2 WIDE2-1 PATH3 % TSTAT /TinyTrak4 Alpha BTEXT >/TinyTrak4 Alpha BPERIOD 0 TXD 40 MTXD 10 PERSIST 65 SLOTTIME 15 QUIET 10 TRNKMODE 0 CDMODE TONES CDLEVEL 20 TXLEVEL 128 TXTWIST 50 RXAMP 12 GWAYLEN 9 GWAYMODE NMEA GRELAYBITS 1 GRELAYRATE 0 GKRELAY 0 LOCATION 1234.5678N 12345.6789W GALT 1000 TSYMCODE > TSYMTABLE / STATUSRATE 1 PPERIOD 0 MPPERIOD 0 SBSSPEED 5 SBFSPEED 60 SBSPERIOD 1800 SBFPERIOD 90 SBTANGLE 27 SBTSLOPE 255 SBTTIME 5 MMSG 0 TSOFFSET 17 TDAO 0 TPROTOCOL MIC-E TPSWITCH 0 TPERIOD 0 TVOLTTWK 128 TTEMPTWK 128 WPERIOD 0 ALIAS1 TEMP ALIAS2 % ALIAS3 % DUPETIME 30 FILTERCALL % TXFREQ 144.390 RXFREQ 144.390 RXSQUELCH 0
On Tuesday, October 22, 2024 at 08:39:43 AM CDT, Chiefsfan2 <chiefsfan2@...> wrote:
Thank you I¡¯ll give it a try¡ On Tuesday, October 22, 2024, 08:37, Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...> wrote:
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Re: TT4 config software
Thank you I¡¯ll give it a try¡
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On Tuesday, October 22, 2024, 08:37, Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...> wrote:
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Re: TT4 config software
While in the configuration menu you would just:
First, I found that modern serial ports and buffers may cause some timing issues so?
From the TeraTerm >Setup menu choose >Serial port ...
? ?Under Transmit Delay change the right box (msec/line) to 1.?
Then from the TeraTerm >File menu choose >Send File
Make sure the Binary box (bottom left) is "unchecked" (you are just sending the text file).
Navigate the Export file and select it, then hit <Open>.
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If TeraTerm Local Echo is enabled, you will see the new setting followed by each settings old and new state.?
? ?{Variable} {new value}?
? ?{Variable} was {old value}?
? ?{Variable} is {new value}?
If Local Echo is unchecked, I believe you just see the old state and new state?
? ?{Variable} was {old value}?
? ?{Variable} is {new value}?
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KB8RCO
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Re: TT4 config software
Yea I¡¯ve been using teraterm but I¡¯m new to it. How do you resend the file back using teraterm?
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On Tuesday, October 22, 2024, 08:14, Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...> wrote:
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Re: TT4 config software
I haven't used the configuration app in quite some time.? For TT4 variants the firmware is at V0.72, but the Config software goes back to V0.68
I do all my changes with TeraTerm now.? I use EXPORT to capture the current settings to a file, edit that file, then send the whole file back to the TT4 (or MTT4B).
I don't think there are any new settings between the 0.68 and 0.72 (except on the MTT4B version) so the configuration app should still work.
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In other posts, users have found this process to be helpful:
1. EXPORT the current settings to a text file
2. Edit the text file according to your desire
3. RETORE to bring the TT4 (or MTT4B) to a known state
4. Send the new settings to the TT4 (or MTT4B)
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By running RESTORE and ensuring the TT4 is in a known state, any setting that may have been causing problems should be fixed.
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Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO
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Re: Erroneous Setting Changes on an MT44B
On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 02:46 PM, Rob Giuliano wrote:
There is no " XXXXXIS" command Yes, I know. It was my abreviated way of saying something like? "If I try to use any of the valid commands".
Anyway its all fixed and restore worked as per my post before your.
Thanks for helping with information, could be useful next time
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Re: Erroneous Setting Changes on an MT44B
What do you mean by "When I change a setting using the XXXXXIS Command"? There is no " XXXXXIS" command or "XXXXX is {Callsign}" command. The format should be: COMMAND VALUE?????????????? (no 'is') ?? MYCALL VK2RWK-1 The MTT4B will reply with ? MYCALL is VK2RWK-1 ? MYCALL was ISVK2RIf you read all the settings with DISPLAY, the result is not usable to send "back to" the MTT4B. You must use the EXPORT command (this shows the same information without the word "is" between COMMAND and VALUE. BTW, I'd skip the RESTORE unless you have just updated the firmware, or have some really strange settings. Use EXPORT, and save to a file.? Edit the file (make sure there is only a single space between COMMAND VALUE), the send the "edited" file back to the MTT4B.? Everything should work after that. Hope this helps! Robert Giuliano
On Wednesday, October 16, 2024 at 04:24:10 PM EDT, Compton <comptonallen@...> wrote:
I am experiencing a problem changing the settings in an MTT4B. We have a number of these and all have been working well.
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Problem I am having now is changing the settings on a unit so it can be moved to a different site. I am successfully?connecting to the MTT4B using TeraTerm 4.105 in Win 10 and a TT3 cable in the 2.5mm port. I can read the current settings? by using the DISPLAY command.
When I change a setting using the XXXXXIS Command for some setting this works for other such as MYCALL & LOCATION the setting is not accepted and an erroneous setting is created which then can not be corrected.
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Here is an example:
MYCALL is VK2RWK-1
MYCALL was ISVK2R MYCALL is ISVK2R-1 ?
Any suggestions on what may be causing?this??
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Re: Erroneous Setting Changes on an MT44B
Compton, I would try using the RESTORE command first, which will reset the default options ( Note that these will include the North American frequency) and try to reenter the settings. If that does not work, try reloading the firmware. If you have another PC to try it with, its worth a shot too. Allen AF6OF
On Wednesday, October 16, 2024 at 03:24:10 PM CDT, Compton <comptonallen@...> wrote:
I am experiencing a problem changing the settings in an MTT4B. We have a number of these and all have been working well.
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Problem I am having now is changing the settings on a unit so it can be moved to a different site. I am successfully?connecting to the MTT4B using TeraTerm 4.105 in Win 10 and a TT3 cable in the 2.5mm port. I can read the current settings? by using the DISPLAY command.
When I change a setting using the XXXXXIS Command for some setting this works for other such as MYCALL & LOCATION the setting is not accepted and an erroneous setting is created which then can not be corrected.
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Here is an example:
MYCALL is VK2RWK-1
MYCALL was ISVK2R MYCALL is ISVK2R-1 ?
Any suggestions on what may be causing?this??
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Compton
VK2HRX Sydney, Australia |
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Erroneous Setting Changes on an MT44B
I am experiencing a problem changing the settings in an MTT4B. We have a number of these and all have been working well.
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Problem I am having now is changing the settings on a unit so it can be moved to a different site. I am successfully?connecting to the MTT4B using TeraTerm 4.105 in Win 10 and a TT3 cable in the 2.5mm port. I can read the current settings? by using the DISPLAY command.
When I change a setting using the XXXXXIS Command for some setting this works for other such as MYCALL & LOCATION the setting is not accepted and an erroneous setting is created which then can not be corrected.
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Here is an example:
MYCALL is VK2RWK-1
MYCALL was ISVK2R MYCALL is ISVK2R-1 ?
Any suggestions on what may be causing?this??
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Compton VK2HRX Sydney, Australia |
Kevin (KK4YEL)
Compton
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