Re: More final comments on the Heathkit QM-1.
Science advances not by repetition of experiments and analysis of large amounts of data, but by carrying out that one crucial test / experiment that refutes present knowledge. With proper research
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Brian
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Re: More final comments on the Heathkit QM-1.
Mine's on the shelf in front of me. Vince - K8ZW. -- Michigan VHF Corporation -- nobucks dot net https://www.nobucksboutique.com http://www.metalworkingfun.com K8ZW - http://www.hamradio.fun
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Vince Vielhaber
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Re: More final comments on the Heathkit QM-1.
Some of us remember how to use a slide rule, accurate to 3 places - maybe. Paul, W8AEF _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
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Paul <w8aef@...>
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Re: Making a Q-meter /
I had a good measurement 9,985,727¦¸ for a 10M¦¸ resistor. The manual suggests using low capacitance for large resistors and high cap for smaller resistors. I also use a lower Q inductor at about 232.
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Mikek
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Re: More final comments on the Heathkit QM-1.
Jeff, trust me, engineering *is* an art, the art of compromise between what one wishes to achieve, what technology (&c.) permits, how much it's all going to cost (and how long it might take &c.), and
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G8DQX list
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Re: Making a Q-meter /
Using an LF coil at lower freq, with the nominal 98 megohm, results are not good.? 459 x 448 /? 2? pi? 159,269? 450e-12? 11 =? 41.512 megohms
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Steve Ratzlaff
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Re: Making a Q-meter /
On the idea perhaps the resonating capacitance was too small compared with any (tiny) inductance of the resistor, I resonated at the other end, using 450 pF, using the nominal 98 Mohm. 1447 x 1423 /
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Steve Ratzlaff
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Re: Making a Q-meter /
By standard, is that 10M¦¸ Is that thru hole? That 5M¦¸ is about what I got when I was using a thru hole. I think--- maybe, just maybe I found the answer. If you look at section about measuring "Large
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Mikek
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Re: Making a Q-meter /
I tried again, this time with four 22 megohm in series with 10 megohm for a nominal 98 megohms total. 1700 kHz, 32.3 pF, coil-alone Q 990; with resistors Q 850.? 990 x 850 / 2? pi? 1.7e6?
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Steve Ratzlaff
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Re: Making a Q-meter /
I tried it with my HP4342A Q meter, and a standard 5% 10 megohm resistor which measures about 10.97 megohms on my Fluke 87V. (The reading keeps creeping up, never seems to finally stop....) 1700 kHz,
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Steve Ratzlaff
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Re: Making a Q-meter /
Would some perform this experiment on their Q meter? I continuously get a about a 19%? low error. I have used two different Q meters. I'm attaching thin wires to an 0805 resistor. But please use what
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Mikek
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Re: Ringdown Q Meter Built an d working
I have seen that before, I thought it was in the Files section, but I don't see it. I put the scope on my Ringdown Meter to look at the waveform. It gets a shake and ringsdown, at some point It gets
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Mikek
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Re: Ringdown Q Meter Built an d working
The ring-down technique for measuring Q was new to me. I found this: https://www.giangrandi.ch/electronics/ringdownq/ringdownq.shtml 73, Leon G1HSM
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Leon
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Ringdown Q Meter Built an d working
I received the Ringdown Q meter Kit and have got it built into a case and working. The frequency range is 400kHz to 9.2MHz. Minimum inductance is 10uh, but I have 9.2uh and it worked. Here are some
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Mikek
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Re: More final comments on the Heathkit QM-1.
wrote: That sounds great. A lot of people, myself included, enjoy trying to make something better, even if we don't *really *need it. That's good enough for most things. I have 6.5 digits, and that's
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Dr. David Kirkby, Kirkby Microwave Ltd
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Re: Concluding comments on Heathkit QM-1 Q-Meter
I would agree that all the LCR meters I have seen may be good at measuring LCR but really bad with Q accuracy. My point to Jeff was if he needed a wider range of frequencies or range of Q, get
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tgerbic
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Re: Concluding comments on Heathkit QM-1 Q-Meter
Yes Jeff, metal film resistors can be spiral cut during trimming. But the inductance increase is usually very? small and in series with a much higher resistance. The inductance of a wire ended
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Alan
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Re: Concluding comments on Heathkit QM-1 Q-Meter
Jeff, general purpose round-bodied metal film (MF) resistors will often have been trimmed with a spiral, but there are absolutely no guarantees with this. Specialist resistors are usually trimmed
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G8DQX list
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Re: Concluding comments on Heathkit QM-1 Q-Meter
I don¡¯t think any LCR meter is particularly good at Q above 20. I have an HP 4285A (75 kHz to 30 MHz. Basic accuracy 0.1%). There¡¯s an example in the manual of the uncertainty of a Q measurement
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Dr. David Kirkby, Kirkby Microwave Ltd
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Re: Heathkit Q-Meter
Saw a couple of HP 8640Bs in there.............
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NigelP
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