Re: Making a Q-meter / References etc
Could larger resistor values be used for measuring larger values of Rs. I think the answer is yes. If the signal source is an RF signal generator the load on it would need to always be 50 ohms. 73
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MAX
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Re: Making a Q-meter / References etc
Got it, Attached is SimSmith solution with measured V to Q equation. Equations are: XL=2*Pi*G.MHz*L1.H*1e6; Rs=(R1.V.M*50)/(2-R1.V.M); Rs=1/(1/Rs-1/50); Q=XL/Rs; John KN5L
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John KN5L
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Re: Making a Q-meter / References etc
Added a 50 Ohm load to BNC connector fixture shown in: https://www.kn5l.net/Inductor-Plots/VNWA-Measure/ Section: "Voltage Ratio Q Measurement" With Generator set to 1Vrms output, Oscilloscope
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John KN5L
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Re: Making a Q-meter / References etc
I decided to tighten it up and put the termination at the meter. Mikek
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Mikek
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File /Q-factor (Q is the inverse of dissipation factor DF)./Method simplifies testing high-Q devices; Alan Victor, EDN Feb 2002.pdf uploaded
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The following files and folders have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group. * /Q-factor (Q is the inverse of dissipation factor DF)./Method
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Re: Making a Q-meter / References etc
I uploaded the original article to the files section.? Notification should show shortly. Ron
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Ron
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Re: Making a Q-meter / References etc
Use the five-sided box to mount everything, not the lid. Pete
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Re: Making a Q-meter / References etc
I converted your photos into a PDF using the free open-source GIMP. https://www.gimp.org/ I put it here in the files section of the group
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Dr. David Kirkby, Kirkby Microwave Ltd
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Re: Making a Q-meter / References etc
SimSmith model attached, John KN5L
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John KN5L
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Re: Making a Q-meter / References etc
Thanks, no edit though :-( Mikek
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Mikek
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Re: Making a Q-meter / References etc
I'm missing a detail. It looks like we need to set the 1 Volt input without the DUT connected, then insert the DUT and tune for lowest voltage. (no need for constant voltage source as I said before)
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Mikek
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Re: Making a Q-meter / References etc
Sorry forgot my proposed Layout.
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Mikek
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Re: Making a Q-meter / References etc
I want to try this, since I now have an HP 3400 RF voltmeter. It will only go to 10 MHz. I'll use my scope after that. I'll be using a 4" x 2" x 1" tall cast box.See attached pictures. I'll install
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Mikek
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Re: Making a Q-meter / References etc
Appended to: https://www.kn5l.net/Inductor-Plots/VNWA-Measure/ is section "FT114-31 9T SRF Q Measurement" which demonstrates measuring a high inductance Ferrite inductor at Self Resonant Frequency
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John KN5L
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Re: Making a Q-meter / References etc
Obviously, you would need to generate a more finely incremented Table one. Mikek
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Mikek
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Re: Making a Q-meter / References etc
My scanner is finicky these days, I took pictures. If they don't help, I'll work with my scanner. Mikek
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Mikek
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Re: Making a Q-meter / References etc
I would appreciate a scan if you can do so. I can't get images to load either, so it's essentially impossible to follow the description.
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Dr. David Kirkby, Kirkby Microwave Ltd
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Re: Making a Q-meter / References etc
I found this in my files while looking for something else. Method Simplifies Testing High-Q devices, Alan Victor. https://www.edn.com/method-simplifies-testing-high-q-devices/ I can't get the Figure
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Mikek
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Re: Optimal full scale deflection on analog meters
The Sangamo Weston S 82 galvanometer pictured has a significant overshoot when given a step increase in current. The coil is 146¦¸ and it is recommended that a 2K¦¸ resistor be put in parallel with
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Re: Making a Q-meter / References etc
Would it not be possible to come up with a temperature stable (within reasonable room temp) in a 1" x 1" size or however you make it low inductance and make a Kelvin connection to that. Have a switch
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Mikek
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