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There's a pretty comprehensive document about Q-measurements by Andrew Gregory at NPL.
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Dr. David Kirkby, Kirkby Microwave Ltd
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Back when the The Radio Board was running, an Ebay seller mkmak222 sold a Ring Down Q meter populated pcb that with a couple additions made a complete Q meter. I don't find it on his Ebay sales page
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Mikek
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Try https://web.archive.org/web/20130124055831/http://www.ee.olemiss.edu/darko/rfqmeas2b.pdf -- Neil G4DBN https://youtube.com/MachiningandMicrowaves
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Neil Smith G4DBN
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Thank you. I see your paper mentioned somewhere, but no link was given. Do you have a copy of the paper Darko Kajfez ¡° Q Factor Measurements, Analog and Digital,¡± www.ee.olemiss.edu/
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Dr. David Kirkby, Kirkby Microwave Ltd
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Back in the days of arc and spark there was a thing called a decrimeter.? This was a sort of wave meter used to measure the degree of "damping" of a transmitted signal.? ?Really it's bandwidth.
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Richard Knoppow
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To get 1 mOhm, place five 5 mOhms resistors in parallel (Mouser <https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Bourns/CFN0805-FZ-R005ELF?qs=sGAEpiMZZMvdGkrng054tx4c7YuULGmGRxUjPa6hUc0gwh5pq0zJIw%3D%3D>)
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John Kolb
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Hi Neil: I have a flyback tester that works by counting the ringing. https://prc68.com/I/ESRmicro.shtml#FBTest Shorted turns kill the Q and so this works quite well. A modified version would simply
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Brooke Clarke
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Nice! Never heard of it being called that, but it fits.? I guess a bit of code would allow the frequency and the exponential value to be extracted and also make corrections based on calibrations with
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Neil Smith G4DBN
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This Swiss guy has had an article about the ring down test for Q for a number of years. https://www.giangrandi.ch/electronics/ringdownq/ringdownq.shtml 73, Steve AA7U
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Steve Ratzlaff
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Possibly a silly question, but have any Q meters been built that use the other approach of watching the relaxation decay starting with a forced excitation and calculating the dissipation factor??
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Neil Smith G4DBN
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Cheers So are you saying that the scale on the meter is not linear, so each one was
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Dr. David Kirkby, Kirkby Microwave Ltd
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Someone suggested getting the handbook for the Boonton 260 Q-Meter. Since Boonton did this already perhaps you can get some inspiration from it. Of course its tubes but nonetheless one can use the
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Richard Knoppow
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Reading that, I do get the feeling that some of the improvements made between the 160-A and 260-A, would not be necessary if an instrument was made with a microprocessor doing some number?crunching.
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Chuck Moore
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Hi: The design using a thermocouple was done in ancient history when vacuum tubes all had 4 pins.? They could easily be burned out and were replaced on the next generation Q-meters. The TS-617 is a
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Brooke Clarke
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Re: Making a Q-meter /
Hello everyone, You may want to have a look at this article that I wrote in QEX, ten years ago: Q Factor Measurements on L-C Circuits. http://ve2azx.net/technical/Q-FactorMeas_on_LC_Circuits.pdf
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Jacques Audet
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Here is the Q page of W7ZOI with his Q meter method and lots of theory. ??????????????????? Mikek -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
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Mikek
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This site has a novel way to Counter inductance of the 0.02¦¸ output resistor, but he still only gets to 40MHz, But maybe you could have two transformers, one for above 40MHz and one for below. At
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Mikek
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I also have Boonton 260A. I had series of 5 coils that had Qs over 1000. I wanted to see about coil spacing, On these 6" coils I found 10 to 12 turns per inch got the highest Q using 660/43 Litz wire.
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Mikek
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Re: clock calibrator
OOps again - I meant 74HC4059 (/10000 capable), not 74HC40102 (/100 capable). Also note that it is easy to force the counters to a known starting state for each measurement with the Kb mode input and
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Stephen C. Menasian <menasian@...>
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Like most engineering decisions, it depends.? In this case my first though would be negative feedback around an amp.? You can get /almost/ arbitrary reduction of output impedance as a tradeoff for
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Oz-in-DFW
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