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Re: Sort of OT Question about older Metcal soldering iron
There are 13.5 MHz (ISM band) Metcals and (cheaper) units that run at a lower freq. I only have the MX500 (qty 2) which is a 13.5 MHz version. These have F-connectors.
The other models have a different connector so I am inclined to "if the connector fits it will work". Wilko |
Re: Sort of OT Question about older Metcal soldering iron
I have three power supplies, a PS2E01, an RFG-30, and an MX500P. The RFG30 seems to be the less enhanced model (one connector and no lights).? AFAIK, they all have the same frequency (Metcal does have a different system of tips and irons, not sure about them). I haven't had a problem with any of the power supplies and the Metcal irons.? I do suggest that the Thermaltronics Irons have a very slightly different barrel length on the tips and may not mate properly.?? Had to return one.? Put the latest iron in the PS2E01, (superior, handle runs cooler) and it fits just fine.? I think that the basic Metcal system is 30 Mhz.
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Some of the newer models have more power, but may be designed to run two handpieces at the same time (desoldering and soldering). I use the PS2 to run the vacuum desoldering gun and the standard pencil at the same time, but since it's switched, I have to wait. I am considering running two of the supplies with an SMT desoldering tip in one, and the standard tip in the other. I have not had a probem switching metcal irons, handpieces, and power supplies amongst the ones I have mentioned. Harvey On 4/17/2023 8:26 AM, BobH via groups.io wrote:
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Re: Sort of OT Question about older Metcal soldering iron
开云体育This is a bit of a weird edge use case for one of those light timers that can be set to the 15 minutes. I had a need to lower the temp of a crock pot to keep from burning more delicate food stuffs. Used a timer as a very crude pwm. 15 minutes on 15-45 minutes off could be a short as 15 on 15 off. To as long as 15 on 45 off in 15-minute windows. ? For soldering irons the Hakko and other stand sleep features are amazing. Though the Hakko gets really annoying after you have not picked up the iron in over 60 minutes it beeps loudly every 15 minutes until you turn the power station off. This is also after it has gone into full shutdown mode and is cooling off. ? Eric From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jim Strohm
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2023 8:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Test Equipment Design & Construction] Sort of OT Question about older Metcal soldering iron ? A timer ???? I've been using a soldering iron for decades (since I was 4, in 1962) and I never thought about putting it on a timer.? I've left soldering irons turned on and unattended, sometimes for days, literally hundreds or maybe?even thousands of times. ? So all my irons will get timers on them, even if they don't have temp control. ? 73 Jim N6OTQ ? On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 7:47?AM Leon via <leon355=[email protected]> wrote [snip]:
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Re: Sort of OT Question about older Metcal soldering iron
A timer ???? I've been using a soldering iron for decades (since I was 4, in 1962) and I never thought about putting it on a timer.? I've left soldering irons turned on and unattended, sometimes for days, literally hundreds or maybe?even thousands of times. So all my irons will get timers on them, even if they don't have temp control. 73 Jim N6OTQ On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 7:47?AM Leon via <leon355=[email protected]> wrote [snip]:
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Re: Sort of OT Question about older Metcal soldering iron
I suppose I'm lucky. I bought a second-hand MX-500 system some years ago. It came with a new handpiece and selection of cartridges for ?125. I subsequently bought a spare used PS from eBay for ?75. The PSs are the older ones with a single output and no timer. Good enough for me! Leon Heller On 17 Apr 2023 13:26, "BobH via groups.io" <wanderingmetalhead@...> wrote: Hi, |
Sort of OT Question about older Metcal soldering iron
Hi,
I picked up an Metcal PS2E-01 power supply at a hamfest recently. It did not come with an iron. I tried the iron from my MX500P system and it heated up to soldering temperature and seemed OK. There is a 1993 dated test sticker on the supply, so it is not a recent model. Metcal has sold several different appearing power supplies, and I am wondering if the irons are compatible from model to model? Connector compatibility seems like kind of a risky metric for this kind of thing. Does anybody know if there are differences in output power or frequency between models? Thanks, BobH KE7FEF |
Re: RF Connector sizing
Possibly an HN connector...silvered brass body,.external UNF thread and female silvered inner conductor with white PTFE dielectric. Pete G4GJL On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 5:13?PM Pete Harrison <rockfisher@...> wrote:
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Re: RF Connector sizing
开云体育I'm not sure if this is applicable, but there is an "HN" type connector, which is a slightly larger "N" connector designed for higher power than a regular "N" connector. I think I have a few male type in my stash.Ray, W4BYG On 4/6/2023 12:13, Pete Harrison wrote:
-- "If you want to build a strong house, I'll give you my engineer's number. If you want to build a strong life, I'll introduce you to my carpenter." Lebron and Heather Lackey |
Re: RF Connector sizing
It might be a HN connector. On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 12:13?PM Pete Harrison <rockfisher@...> wrote:
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RF Connector sizing
Hi all, some help needed please. I have recently acquired a nice high power RF balun, ex Mod. Rediffusion 12054B. I have been told it was used on a HF set on a Royal Navy Frigate. It has 3 RF Connectors, the 2 inputs for 12.5R & 25R are PL259 types, the output at 50R is a large connector i know not which. It is not an N Connector but looks similar. The outside diameter is 18.9mm (0.7440"). Can anyone id this connector for me please |
Re: Some comments on calibrating a Tektronix CFC250 100MHz frequency counter.
The original specs were replaced by the PDf you referenced. A lot of early history of radio and TV never made it onto the FCC website because it wasn't needed. A better search is History of NTSC. My final comment is to download and read the National Semiconductor LM1882 datasheet. It is a single chip NTSC Sync Generator that uses a 14.318,180 MHz crystal. It was used in many TV cameras and pieces of industrial video equipment The LM1881 could recover sync data and be used with the LM1882 to regenerate sync, as needed to sync multiple video inputs. The original datasheets are in some '80s databooks. The later programmable versions dwell on programming, not the math and waveforms. My initial use of, and repairing HP and Tektronix was due to working daily to rebuild a very run down military TV station in the '70s. No outside support, and no internet to offer tips so I read every equipment manual, cover to cover starting with a defective Tek scope. As far as I could find out, it was the only one on base since TDY techs brought their equipment when they did repairs to the limited electronics at that base. That will soon be 50 years ago. Prior to this, I had mostly only seen TV shop grade test equipment that was old and in bad shape. On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 8:56?PM Jeff Green <Jeff.L.Green1970@...> wrote:
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Re: Some comments on calibrating a Tektronix CFC250 100MHz frequency counter.
Jeff,
in the way back bad old days when networks (CBS, ABC, NBC) actually did live broadcast you could use their color burst as a frequency reference (subject to several caveats though) because they generated the burst signal from a Cesium Beam standard. NBS (well NIST now) used to publish a bulletin weekly that showed many of the LF radio stations including WWV and the broadcast networks calculated frequency error from, if memory serves, the Navel Observatory. ?In our lab we used Jim Creek Washington on 18.6KHz for our in house standard. Ahhhhh the Fluke 207 what a device anyway more trivia found on Silicon Slough Steve |
Re: Some comments on calibrating a Tektronix CFC250 100MHz frequency counter.
开云体育Great Story. I enjoyed it. ? I too have enjoyed my long-term scar of four adjacent pins full of 150V Low Voltage. Four 0.25” evenly spaced 2 inch long scars on my wrist. ? The worst shock I ever received was an arc from an HV Anode Button through my Heathkit HV Probe, through my arm, down my body, through my knee, through their carpet, into their concrete floor. I was fixing a neighbor’s TV, they later told me they asked me to fix it so that they could sell it - crap. It was a bad Power Supply Bulk Capacitor that had failed. I have no idea how it developed a voltage that high. ? Ross ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chuck Moore via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2023 11:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Test Equipment Design & Construction] Some comments on calibrating a Tektronix CFC250 100MHz frequency counter. ? It was surprising the mechanical spinning disk system ever made it to market. The imagery was not bad but having the outer disk speed was fairly fast. And the drive motors were not exactly quiet. A lot of female customers complained about the noise from the disk and the mechanical vibration that frequently occurred in the flyback transformer at 17,734 Hertz. Yeah women could hear it. I asked the owner to help keep him away from the set while I had the back off, as I feared he would be injured. I could just imagine the damage that bugger could do if he stepped on the bed of those wire wrap terminals in the chassis. She removed the cat and I proceeded to change out a tube here and there. I had just inserted one tube, plugged in the ac power (cheater) cord to power the set up and turned to reach into the tube caddy for a long skinny screwdriver, when there was a squall from a creature in pain. The cat had returned, crawled in with my back turned and apparently found a B Boost (about 800 volt DC) terminal. I saw a blur as the cat left at light speed, and just sat speechless over the carnage the cat had inflicted on that poor television. IF Cans, coil forms, laid over broken, tube pins were bent so badly I feared straightening them. Several wires were torn loose. The cat survived, but he did not intrude again during that visit. And I explained to an insurance agent how the customer's cat destroyed a color television. |
Re: Some comments on calibrating a Tektronix CFC250 100MHz frequency counter.
开云体育Your friend is simply wrong. There were no math errors. A small shift was necessary to accommodate a spectral interleaving of the chroma and luminance signals with practical (cheap) circuits. The shift in line and frame rates was small enough to permit backwards compatibility with monochrome sets.— Tom Sent from my iThing; please forgive the typos and brevity On Mar 31, 2023, at 04:56, Jeff Green <Jeff.L.Green1970@...> wrote:
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Re: Some comments on calibrating a Tektronix CFC250 100MHz frequency counter.
The BTSC was in place in 1941 RCA developed their color system in 1953. I've met other TV engineers who had no clue about this. In the mid '70s I worked at the original Cincinnati Electronics, in a former Crosley factory. It still had the Crosley museum, and many old books including one on the release of the initial NTSC ruling. It described the details of each proposed system, and their faults. What was chosen was a compromise. It allowed reasonable performance at a price that people would be able to afford to buy televisions. Some wanted to use AM for the audio, and FM for video. Others wanted to use AM for video, instead of Vestigial Sideband which had the same signal quality, with most of one sideband being suppressed, but still had the carrier to make detection easy.. Also, the original TVs used two separate receivers. It was the concept of Intercarrier reception that simplified operation to where anyone could select a channel. I don't miss dirty contacts, cracked wafer switches or worn out channel strips in VHF tuners. I repaired too many TV tuners back in the '70s, including making a replacement tuner for a Conrac Demod for a military TV station. There were no spares to be had, and a custom built replacement from? Sarks-Tarzan, (The OEM) would have cost more than a newer model Demod. |
Re: Some comments on calibrating a Tektronix CFC250 100MHz frequency counter.
It was surprising the mechanical spinning disk system ever made it to market. The imagery was not bad but having the outer disk speed was fairly fast. And the drive motors were not exactly quiet. A lot of female customers complained about the noise from the disk and the mechanical vibration that frequently occurred in the flyback transformer at 17,734 Hertz. Yeah women could hear it. I asked the owner to help keep him away from the set while I had the back off, as I feared he would be injured. I could just imagine the damage that bugger could do if he stepped on the bed of those wire wrap terminals in the chassis. She removed the cat and I proceeded to change out a tube here and there. I had just inserted one tube, plugged in the ac power (cheater) cord to power the set up and turned to reach into the tube caddy for a long skinny screwdriver, when there was a squall from a creature in pain. The cat had returned, crawled in with my back turned and apparently found a B Boost (about 800 volt DC) terminal. I saw a blur as the cat left at light speed, and just sat speechless over the carnage the cat had inflicted on that poor television. IF Cans, coil forms, laid over broken, tube pins were bent so badly I feared straightening them. Several wires were torn loose. The cat survived, but he did not intrude again during that visit. And I explained to an insurance agent how the customer's cat destroyed a color television. |