Thanks Oliver I will be expecting for news. Regards Gerardo Novillo ________________________________ De: [email protected] < [email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: s¨¢bado, 26 de mayo de 2018 10:56 Para: [email protected]Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT Hi again Yes the crt dose work , scope did turn at one time , but PS needs work , i bought with the notion of fixing but i have so many other scopes that needed work that i never got to fix . Pay pal is what i have and what i use for internet transactions . I will try to see if i can use power supply from other scope to power crt and take picture before i send to you so you can see for yourself, just need some time to make that happen . Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 9:34 AM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote: Ok Oliver. My friend of Texas is back at home. If you are SURE that CRT has the filament ok, i will buy the scope. I believe in your word. So, let me know how to transfer the money to you. I think a ebay money request will be ok. Have a nice week end. Gerardo Novillo ________________________________ De: [email protected] < [email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: s¨¢bado, 26 de mayo de 2018 09:30:49 Para: [email protected]Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT I am out of town till Thursday next week so i cannot tell you what plugin it is , i am still asking $125 for scope Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 6:53 PM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote: Ok. Tell me which plug in do you have With only one plug in, how much is for the scope? Obtener Outlook para Android<> ________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 5:25:40 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT Just let me know when you are ready and can go from there , by the way i had only 1 of the four plugins , i thought i had at least 2 but when i checked its only one , just so you know . Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 1:00 PM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote: Hi. Ok, i will try to do the best. Please, if you can wait sometime i will arrange some solution for the delivery. Thank you so much. Obtener Outlook para Android<> ________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Pete Lancashire <xyzzypdx@...> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 8:32:38 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT The one 7K CRT that does not ship well inside it frame is the 7104. I've bought two that the rear was hit hard enough to shatter the CRT. Got full credit but still sucks On Tue, May 22, 2018, 8:38 AM oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica= [email protected]> wrote: Hi I would like to help you out in this scope project you have there , but i do not have the time to part out scope as you would like me to . In addition shipping the crt like that can be problematic, breakage is possible even if double boxed or internal damage . That has happened to me with a scope that was shipped , broken crt and also another with open heater . If your friends are going to be around at a later date its best to just ship as is .
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 8:54 AM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote: Hi Oliver
What do you think if i buy the scope, and you part out it?
My friends are outside of US now for work reasons.
The equipment is very big and very heavy for delivery.
So, if you accept, i will be very very grateful for your cooperation.
Please let me know your decision when possible.
I will need the CRT, boards , knobs, plug ins and power supply.
I understand you are sure that CRT is OK.
Thank you so much.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de gerar2182 < gerardo_novillo@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 16:55 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
Let me check with my friens and i will contact you soon.
Thank you so so much.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 16:43 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
I would like to have $125 for scope and plugins
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 2:37 PM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote: Thank you for your soon reply Oliver.
I understand your point of view.
So, let me know the cost of scope.
I have a couple of friends in Texas and Palm Bay.
If i buy the scope, may be possible to send to one of them?.
Then will be disassembled by them and send me the parts i need.
Thanks.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 15:06 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
Hi Gerardo I dont want to rip apart the scope and part out ,if you would like to buy the scope that has a few plugins thats fine , the only thing is it might too costly to ship to you as most things ar outside of the US .
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 1:52 PM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote: Hi Oliver
Im new in this group and i dont know if is possible to speak about transactions here.
Im very interested. I live in Argentina. Here is not possible to get this part .
Please let me know how much you want for the CRT and how much for shipping to
Argentina , using USPS.
Also let me know how much for the Power Supply.
May be i will in need of the Readout Board and some knobs.
Im trying to come back to life a completely dead equipment.
Thank you very much.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 13:57 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
Where are you locates i have a spare 7904 with ps out that i started to repair , crt is fine , i am in ny if you are interested.
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Hi again?Yes the crt dose work , scope did turn at one time , but PS needs work , i bought with the notion of fixing but i have so many other scopes that needed work that i never got to fix . Pay pal is what i have and what i use for internet transactions . I will try to see if i can use power supply from other scope to power crt and take picture before i send to you so you can see for yourself,? just need some time to make that happen . Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 9:34 AM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote: Ok Oliver. My friend of Texas is back at home. If you are SURE that CRT has the filament ok, i will buy the scope. I believe in your word. So, let me know how to transfer the money to you. I think a ebay money request will be ok. Have a nice week end. Gerardo Novillo ________________________________ De: [email protected] < [email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: s¨¢bado, 26 de mayo de 2018 09:30:49 Para: [email protected]Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT I am out of town till Thursday next week so i cannot tell you what plugin it is , i am still asking $125 for scope Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ? On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 6:53 PM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote:? Ok. Tell me which plug in do you have With only one plug in, how much is for the scope? Obtener Outlook para Android<> ________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 5:25:40 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT Just let me know when you are ready and can go from there , by the way i had only 1 of the four plugins , i thought i had at least 2 but when i checked its only one , just so you know . Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ? On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 1:00 PM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote:? Hi. Ok, i will try to do the best. Please, if you can wait sometime i will arrange some solution for the delivery. Thank you so much. Obtener Outlook para Android<> ________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Pete Lancashire <xyzzypdx@...> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 8:32:38 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT The one 7K CRT that does not ship well inside it frame is the 7104. I've bought two that the rear was hit hard enough to shatter the CRT. Got full credit but still sucks On Tue, May 22, 2018, 8:38 AM oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica= [email protected]> wrote: Hi I would like to help you out in this scope project you have there , but i do not have the time to part out scope as you would like me to . In addition shipping the crt like that can be problematic, breakage is possible even if double boxed or internal damage . That has happened to me with a scope that was shipped , broken crt and also another with open heater . If your friends are going to be around at a later date its best to just ship as is .
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
? On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 8:54 AM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote:? Hi Oliver
What do you think if i buy the scope, and you part out it?
My friends are outside of US now for work reasons.
The equipment is very big and very heavy for delivery.
So, if you accept, i will be very very grateful for your cooperation.
Please let me know? your decision when possible.
I will need the CRT, boards , knobs, plug ins and power supply.
I understand you are sure that CRT is OK.
Thank you so much.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de gerar2182 < gerardo_novillo@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 16:55 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
Let me check with my friens and i will contact you soon.
Thank you so so much.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 16:43 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
I would like to have $125 for scope and plugins
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
? On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 2:37 PM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote:? Thank you for your soon reply Oliver.
I understand your point of view.
So, let me know the cost of scope.
I have a couple of friends in Texas and Palm Bay.
If i buy the scope, may be possible to send to one of them?.
Then will be disassembled by them and send me the parts i need.
Thanks.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 15:06 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
Hi Gerardo I dont want to rip apart the scope and part out ,if you would like to buy the scope that has a few plugins thats fine , the only thing is it might too costly to ship to you as most things ar outside of the US .
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
? On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 1:52 PM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote:? Hi Oliver
Im new in this group and i dont know if is? possible to speak about transactions here.
Im very interested. I live in Argentina. Here is not possible to get this part .
Please let me know how much you want for the CRT and how much for shipping to
Argentina , using USPS.
Also let me know how much for the Power Supply.
May be i will in need of the Readout Board and some knobs.
Im trying to come back to life a completely dead equipment.
Thank you very much.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 13:57 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
Where are you locates i have a spare 7904 with ps out that i started to repair , crt is fine , i am in ny if you are interested.
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Ok Oliver. My friend of Texas is back at home. If you are SURE that CRT has the filament ok, i will buy the scope. I believe in your word. So, let me know how to transfer the money to you. I think a ebay money request will be ok. Have a nice week end. Gerardo Novillo ________________________________ De: [email protected] < [email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: s¨¢bado, 26 de mayo de 2018 09:30:49 Para: [email protected]Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT I am out of town till Thursday next week so i cannot tell you what plugin it is , i am still asking $125 for scope Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 6:53 PM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote: Ok. Tell me which plug in do you have With only one plug in, how much is for the scope? Obtener Outlook para Android<> ________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 5:25:40 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT Just let me know when you are ready and can go from there , by the way i had only 1 of the four plugins , i thought i had at least 2 but when i checked its only one , just so you know . Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 1:00 PM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote: Hi. Ok, i will try to do the best. Please, if you can wait sometime i will arrange some solution for the delivery. Thank you so much. Obtener Outlook para Android<> ________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Pete Lancashire <xyzzypdx@...> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 8:32:38 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT The one 7K CRT that does not ship well inside it frame is the 7104. I've bought two that the rear was hit hard enough to shatter the CRT. Got full credit but still sucks On Tue, May 22, 2018, 8:38 AM oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica= [email protected]> wrote: Hi I would like to help you out in this scope project you have there , but i do not have the time to part out scope as you would like me to . In addition shipping the crt like that can be problematic, breakage is possible even if double boxed or internal damage . That has happened to me with a scope that was shipped , broken crt and also another with open heater . If your friends are going to be around at a later date its best to just ship as is .
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 8:54 AM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote: Hi Oliver
What do you think if i buy the scope, and you part out it?
My friends are outside of US now for work reasons.
The equipment is very big and very heavy for delivery.
So, if you accept, i will be very very grateful for your cooperation.
Please let me know your decision when possible.
I will need the CRT, boards , knobs, plug ins and power supply.
I understand you are sure that CRT is OK.
Thank you so much.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de gerar2182 < gerardo_novillo@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 16:55 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
Let me check with my friens and i will contact you soon.
Thank you so so much.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 16:43 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
I would like to have $125 for scope and plugins
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 2:37 PM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote: Thank you for your soon reply Oliver.
I understand your point of view.
So, let me know the cost of scope.
I have a couple of friends in Texas and Palm Bay.
If i buy the scope, may be possible to send to one of them?.
Then will be disassembled by them and send me the parts i need.
Thanks.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 15:06 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
Hi Gerardo I dont want to rip apart the scope and part out ,if you would like to buy the scope that has a few plugins thats fine , the only thing is it might too costly to ship to you as most things ar outside of the US .
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 1:52 PM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote: Hi Oliver
Im new in this group and i dont know if is possible to speak about transactions here.
Im very interested. I live in Argentina. Here is not possible to get this part .
Please let me know how much you want for the CRT and how much for shipping to
Argentina , using USPS.
Also let me know how much for the Power Supply.
May be i will in need of the Readout Board and some knobs.
Im trying to come back to life a completely dead equipment.
Thank you very much.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 13:57 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
Where are you locates i have a spare 7904 with ps out that i started to repair , crt is fine , i am in ny if you are interested.
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I am out of town till Thursday next week so i cannot tell you what plugin it is , i am still asking $125 for scope? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 6:53 PM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote: Ok. Tell me which plug in do you have With only one plug in, how much is for the scope? Obtener Outlook para Android<> ________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 5:25:40 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT Just let me know when you are ready and can go from there , by the way i had only 1 of the four plugins , i thought i had at least 2 but when i checked its only one , just so you know . Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ? On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 1:00 PM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote:? Hi. Ok, i will try to do the best. Please, if you can wait sometime i will arrange some solution for the delivery. Thank you so much. Obtener Outlook para Android<> ________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Pete Lancashire <xyzzypdx@...> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 8:32:38 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT The one 7K CRT that does not ship well inside it frame is the 7104. I've bought two that the rear was hit hard enough to shatter the CRT. Got full credit but still sucks On Tue, May 22, 2018, 8:38 AM oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica= [email protected]> wrote: Hi I would like to help you out in this scope project you have there , but i do not have the time to part out scope as you would like me to . In addition shipping the crt like that can be problematic, breakage is possible even if double boxed or internal damage . That has happened to me with a scope that was shipped , broken crt and also another with open heater . If your friends are going to be around at a later date its best to just ship as is .
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
? On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 8:54 AM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote:? Hi Oliver
What do you think if i buy the scope, and you part out it?
My friends are outside of US now for work reasons.
The equipment is very big and very heavy for delivery.
So, if you accept, i will be very very grateful for your cooperation.
Please let me know? your decision when possible.
I will need the CRT, boards , knobs, plug ins and power supply.
I understand you are sure that CRT is OK.
Thank you so much.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de gerar2182 < gerardo_novillo@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 16:55 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
Let me check with my friens and i will contact you soon.
Thank you so so much.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 16:43 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
I would like to have $125 for scope and plugins
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
? On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 2:37 PM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote:? Thank you for your soon reply Oliver.
I understand your point of view.
So, let me know the cost of scope.
I have a couple of friends in Texas and Palm Bay.
If i buy the scope, may be possible to send to one of them?.
Then will be disassembled by them and send me the parts i need.
Thanks.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 15:06 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
Hi Gerardo I dont want to rip apart the scope and part out ,if you would like to buy the scope that has a few plugins thats fine , the only thing is it might too costly to ship to you as most things ar outside of the US .
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
? On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 1:52 PM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote:? Hi Oliver
Im new in this group and i dont know if is? possible to speak about transactions here.
Im very interested. I live in Argentina. Here is not possible to get this part .
Please let me know how much you want for the CRT and how much for shipping to
Argentina , using USPS.
Also let me know how much for the Power Supply.
May be i will in need of the Readout Board and some knobs.
Im trying to come back to life a completely dead equipment.
Thank you very much.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 13:57 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
Where are you locates i have a spare 7904 with ps out that i started to repair , crt is fine , i am in ny if you are interested.
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Re: PG502 Failure points?
On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 03:33 am, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Thanks for the confirmation of what I had imagined would be the process. The next (and more theoretical) question is, what combination of components would be needed to complete such a board? I have no experience with Logic and I an confident that I can physically build the circuit as far as the mechanics and processes required. Selecting the modern components is another thing altogether, Thanks for the Guidance! I had some bad wire wrap sockets in a Chyron Video graphics system for our stations Mobile Production Van, in the late '80s. The sockets were under hundreds of very tight wire wrap wires, so I bought good quality machine pin sockets and pressed them into the wire wrap sockets. It cured the problem, without replacing that expensive backplane. It would have taken weeks for us to unwrap everything, replace the two bad sockets and replace each wire. The original problem was caused by ICs with defective plating on the pins, and they had contaminated the cheap sockets used by Chyron. Two new ICs with better plating finished the repairs.
I still have a few of the headers (they are in hiding, somewhere) for when there is no replacement for a chip with bad plating. I simply straddle the IC header and solder the IC pins to the header.
is the style I used to repair the Chyron. This listing is for Augut, which are good quality.
Michael A. Terrell
-----Original Message-----
From: hpxref <face1941@...>
<<Does anyone have experience with building such a "hybrid"?>>
Michael: I gotten round this by plugging in a 14 or 16 Dip CAMBION header in place of the removed special chip., The CAMBION has either solder lugs or turned pins on top depending on model. Turned pins are best for this I soldered a piece of strip board on to that, shaped to fit without fouling nearby parts when plugged home Then soldered the approp sockets to the strip board to take the corresponding IC's making up the equivalent circuit. then plugged the header into a socket replacing the original. Done this with a couple of Tek Plug ins so far and they are still working fine years later...and I can still get the parts!!!
Cheap and quick to do I assume you can still ger Cambion's headers or equivalents. If not you could solder suitable pins onto the strip board direct to match the boards IC
-- Michael Lynch Dardanelle, AR
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Re: PG502 Failure points?
I had some bad wire wrap sockets in a Chyron Video graphics system for our stations Mobile Production Van, in the late '80s. The sockets were under hundreds of very tight wire wrap wires, so I bought good quality machine pin sockets and pressed them into the wire wrap sockets. It cured the problem, without replacing that expensive backplane. It would have taken weeks for us to unwrap everything, replace the two bad sockets and replace each wire. The original problem was caused by ICs with defective plating on the pins, and they had contaminated the cheap sockets used by Chyron. Two new ICs with better plating finished the repairs.
I still have a few of the headers (they are in hiding, somewhere) for when there is no replacement for a chip with bad plating. I simply straddle the IC header and solder the IC pins to the header.
is the style I used to repair the Chyron. This listing is for Augut, which are good quality.
Michael A. Terrell
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-----Original Message----- From: hpxref <face1941@...>
<<Does anyone have experience with building such a "hybrid"?>>
Michael: I gotten round this by plugging in a 14 or 16 Dip CAMBION header in place of the removed special chip., The CAMBION has either solder lugs or turned pins on top depending on model. Turned pins are best for this I soldered a piece of strip board on to that, shaped to fit without fouling nearby parts when plugged home Then soldered the approp sockets to the strip board to take the corresponding IC's making up the equivalent circuit. then plugged the header into a socket replacing the original. Done this with a couple of Tek Plug ins so far and they are still working fine years later...and I can still get the parts!!!
Cheap and quick to do I assume you can still ger Cambion's headers or equivalents. If not you could solder suitable pins onto the strip board direct to match the boards IC
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Re: PG502 Failure points?
<<Does anyone have experience with building such a "hybrid"?>>
Michael: I gotten round this by plugging in a 14 or 16 Dip CAMBION header in place of the removed special chip., The CAMBION has either solder lugs or turned pins on top depending on model. Turned pins are best for this I soldered a piece of strip board on to that, shaped to fit without fouling nearby parts when plugged home Then soldered the approp sockets to the strip board to take the corresponding IC's making up the equivalent circuit. then plugged the header into a socket replacing the original. Done this with a couple of Tek Plug ins so far and they are still working fine years later...and I can still get the parts!!!
Cheap and quick to do I assume you can still ger Cambion's headers or equivalents. If not you could solder suitable pins onto the strip board direct to match the boards IC
John
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Re: PG502 Failure points?
On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 09:47 pm, tmillermdems wrote:
--- Original Message ----- From: "Mlynch001" <mlynch002@...> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [TekScopes] PG502 Failure points?
On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 12:53 pm, Mlynch001 wrote: I I think what I need next is a Known good 156-0282-00 or 01 to replace the known bad U180. Then I can continue testing for other flaws. This OR/NOR GATE is long obsolete, so anyone out there that has one and who would part with it, please feel free to let me know. I also was thinking that I could replace this one IC with a pair of more modern OR/NOR GATES on a small plug in hybrid board. Does anyone have experience with building such a "hybrid"? I have no technical experience with logic IC's, it is all "greek" to me at this stage. I am not afraid to build things and to learn. The one thing that I do not want to do is to cause more damage by doing the wrong thing.
According to TEKTRONIX Literature, these are the parts that will "Drop in" MC1660L MOTOROLA 156-0282-00 156-0282-01 SP1660B PLESSEY
Thanks To all.
-- Michael Lynch Dardanelle, AR
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Yes! Thanks, I just bought them. -- Michael Lynch Dardanelle, AR
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--- Original Message ----- From: "Mlynch001" <mlynch002@...> To: < [email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [TekScopes] PG502 Failure points? On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 12:53 pm, Mlynch001 wrote: I I think what I need next is a Known good 156-0282-00 or 01 to replace the known bad U180. Then I can continue testing for other flaws. This OR/NOR GATE is long obsolete, so anyone out there that has one and who would part with it, please feel free to let me know. I also was thinking that I could replace this one IC with a pair of more modern OR/NOR GATES on a small plug in hybrid board. Does anyone have experience with building such a "hybrid"? I have no technical experience with logic IC's, it is all "greek" to me at this stage. I am not afraid to build things and to learn. The one thing that I do not want to do is to cause more damage by doing the wrong thing. According to TEKTRONIX Literature, these are the parts that will "Drop in" MC1660L MOTOROLA 156-0282-00 156-0282-01 SP1660B PLESSEY Thanks To all. -- Michael Lynch Dardanelle, AR -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Re: PG502 Failure points?
On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 12:53 pm, Mlynch001 wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 10:47 am, Harvey White wrote:
On Mon, 14 May 2018 06:11:27 -0700, you wrote:
I have acquired a TM506 with 7 plug ins PG506,TG501,DC503A,PG502,SG503,SG504
and DM502. All the units seem to work except the PG502. Looking for some guidance as to the likely failure points of this module from the much more experienced members. The TM506 had a fan that had just exploded and was locked up. I replaced the fan and found that the PG502 was not powering on, the power light on the panel did not come on. I found that It had a blown F645 1A sub-miniature fuse on the board, I replaced that fuse and now when I plug it in and turn on the power, it blows the 7A fuse on the board of the TM506. Funny thing is that the little sub miniature that I replaced does not
blow when this happens. I immediately stopped inserting the module, in fear that it might cause some other damage to the TM506. Anyone have any ideas? I
do not want to keep poking around without getting some ideas from the forum. Thank You in advance!
I remember that TEK does not recommend hot insertion of modules in equipment. Part of the problem is that if the connectors are not aligned properly from the very start, adjacent pins can short at the very beginning of the process, yet be correctly aligned when the plugin is fully and properly inserted.
With no plugins, if the TM506 main fuse blows, then there's a nice short somewhere. Obviously, if the fuse doesn't blow with no plugins, and then blows once a plugin is inserted and power is applied, I'd be looking at that plugin. A good set of extenders can be a very nice addition.
As far as the PG502 is concerned, I'd check the capacitors down line from the fuse. I'd also check the major capacitors in the PG502 just as a matter of course, if you have an ESR checker.
Harvey
Harvey,
You are correct, TEK does not recommend "Hot swapping". I do not do hot swaps. The short is definitely in the PG502 as it blew that fuse on the TM506 as soon as power came on. With a full complement of Six functional plugins, (Excluding the PG502) there is no problem with the fuse. I am confident that the TM506 is good to go. Remove PG502- replace fuse-all is well. Others have also focused on the caps as well, so that will be a good place to start. Appreciate your insight and feedback.
I have been getting some e-mail help from Dan Meeks and I have found several of the nagging issues that have plagued this device. I have some signals, but have not restored complete function. In order of repair: Replaced F645 Removed, tested and re-soldered Q650, this was also not bolted down to the board, So it was running much hotter than normal. Replaced the missing nylon hardware and secured to board. Tested electrolytic caps and replaced C304 which had considerable leakage. Located, Removed and Replaced blown "Crowbar" Q626. Set 15V to EXACTLY 15 V Voltage was set too high @ 15.86V Checked -20V and found it to be -20.022V Checked +5V and found it to be +5.16V Replaced blown "Power On" incandescent lamp with an LED. Cleaned/inspected cam switches. Replaced C424 which was standing with one lead in the air. Checked VCC @ U150-U180-U260-U360-U400 and U480, all voltages and grounds seem fine. Swapped U150 (156-0282-01 MC1660L) with U180 (same part). (This is where the big change happened). Before this swap I had no output from the main output and I had a ragged Trigger out signal only with the period switch set to 4nSec position and the pulse duration set to SQ Wave (INT Period). After this swap, I have a signal from the Trigger in 4 nS as well as a square wave from all other switch positions. I also can vary the period of the signal, but still cannot control the duration of the signal. So things are looking up, but not totally fixed yet. THe trigger/duration input also does not appear to work. probably something with Q125/Q130. I think what I need next is a Known good 156-0282-00 or 01 to replace the known bad U180. Then I can continue testing for other flaws. This OR/NOR GATE is long obsolete, so anyone out there that has one and who would part with it, please feel free to let me know. I also was thinking that I could replace this one IC with a pair of more modern OR/NOR GATES on a small plug in hybrid board. Does anyone have experience with building such a "hybrid"? I have no technical experience with logic IC's, it is all "greek" to me at this stage. I am not afraid to build things and to learn. The one thing that I do not want to do is to cause more damage by doing the wrong thing. According to TEKTRONIX Literature, these are the parts that will "Drop in" MC1660L MOTOROLA 156-0282-00 156-0282-01 SP1660B PLESSEY Thanks To all. -- Michael Lynch Dardanelle, AR
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Re: using scope channel 1 and channel 2 invert and add functions vs floating DUT
Hi Nielsen It is a bit of a detour for you but you will learn a huge amount by reading "ABCs of Probes" which is written and published by Tektronix. You can find the latest version of it at the Tek web site:
There is a section on differential measurements in this primer.
Dennis Tillman W7PF
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of nielsentelecom@... Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 7:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TekScopes] using scope channel 1 and channel 2 invert and add functions vs floating DUT
Hi keep it simple stupid,
Thanks for commenting. Sounds like I need to do some experimenting to see what the limitations are with my 2 scopes. I need to just try some known test circuits, and dig into some docs on my scopes and older scope docs for further information.
Should I look at some information on differential probe equipment? If there is anything I've learned, sales brochures for tools that address a given problem using more conventional tools or means, do a great job of telling you what the problem is with the conventional means.
NielsenTelecom -- Dennis Tillman W7PF TekScopes Moderator
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Re: using scope channel 1 and channel 2 invert and add functions vs floating DUT
On Thu, 24 May 2018 19:30:10 -0700, you wrote: Hi keep it simple stupid,
Thanks for commenting. Sounds like I need to do some experimenting to see what the limitations are with my 2 scopes. I need to just try some known test circuits, and dig into some docs on my scopes and older scope docs for further information. Bear in mind that the differential use of a scope (like the differential use of an operational amplifier), assumes that both channes are absolutely identical. That includes frequency and voltage response. So for a differential measurement, the A and B channels have to be as close as possible. If using probes, THEY must also be as close as possible so that the whole measurement chain can do an accurate A-B. The idea behind a differential probe is that the probe is matched and combines the signals earlier in the process, so that the scope doesn't need matched channels, the probe does all the work. Harvey Should I look at some information on differential probe equipment? If there is anything I've learned, sales brochures for tools that address a given problem using more conventional tools or means, do a great job of telling you what the problem is with the conventional means.
NielsenTelecom
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Re: using scope channel 1 and channel 2 invert and add functions vs floating DUT
Hi keep it simple stupid,
Thanks for commenting. Sounds like I need to do some experimenting to see what the limitations are with my 2 scopes. I need to just try some known test circuits, and dig into some docs on my scopes and older scope docs for further information.
Should I look at some information on differential probe equipment? If there is anything I've learned, sales brochures for tools that address a given problem using more conventional tools or means, do a great job of telling you what the problem is with the conventional means.
NielsenTelecom
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Ok. Tell me which plug in do you have With only one plug in, how much is for the scope? Obtener Outlook para Android<> ________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 5:25:40 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT Just let me know when you are ready and can go from there , by the way i had only 1 of the four plugins , i thought i had at least 2 but when i checked its only one , just so you know . Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 1:00 PM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote: Hi. Ok, i will try to do the best. Please, if you can wait sometime i will arrange some solution for the delivery. Thank you so much. Obtener Outlook para Android<> ________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Pete Lancashire <xyzzypdx@...> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 8:32:38 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT The one 7K CRT that does not ship well inside it frame is the 7104. I've bought two that the rear was hit hard enough to shatter the CRT. Got full credit but still sucks On Tue, May 22, 2018, 8:38 AM oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica= [email protected]> wrote: Hi I would like to help you out in this scope project you have there , but i do not have the time to part out scope as you would like me to . In addition shipping the crt like that can be problematic, breakage is possible even if double boxed or internal damage . That has happened to me with a scope that was shipped , broken crt and also another with open heater . If your friends are going to be around at a later date its best to just ship as is .
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 8:54 AM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote: Hi Oliver
What do you think if i buy the scope, and you part out it?
My friends are outside of US now for work reasons.
The equipment is very big and very heavy for delivery.
So, if you accept, i will be very very grateful for your cooperation.
Please let me know your decision when possible.
I will need the CRT, boards , knobs, plug ins and power supply.
I understand you are sure that CRT is OK.
Thank you so much.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de gerar2182 < gerardo_novillo@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 16:55 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
Let me check with my friens and i will contact you soon.
Thank you so so much.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 16:43 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
I would like to have $125 for scope and plugins
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 2:37 PM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote: Thank you for your soon reply Oliver.
I understand your point of view.
So, let me know the cost of scope.
I have a couple of friends in Texas and Palm Bay.
If i buy the scope, may be possible to send to one of them?.
Then will be disassembled by them and send me the parts i need.
Thanks.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 15:06 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
Hi Gerardo I dont want to rip apart the scope and part out ,if you would like to buy the scope that has a few plugins thats fine , the only thing is it might too costly to ship to you as most things ar outside of the US .
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 1:52 PM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote: Hi Oliver
Im new in this group and i dont know if is possible to speak about transactions here.
Im very interested. I live in Argentina. Here is not possible to get this part .
Please let me know how much you want for the CRT and how much for shipping to
Argentina , using USPS.
Also let me know how much for the Power Supply.
May be i will in need of the Readout Board and some knobs.
Im trying to come back to life a completely dead equipment.
Thank you very much.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 13:57 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
Where are you locates i have a spare 7904 with ps out that i started to repair , crt is fine , i am in ny if you are interested.
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Just let me know when you are ready and can go from there , by the way i had only 1 of the four plugins , i thought i had at least 2 but when i checked its only one , just so you know . Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 1:00 PM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote: Hi. Ok, i will try to do the best. Please, if you can wait sometime i will arrange some solution for the delivery. Thank you so much. Obtener Outlook para Android<> ________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Pete Lancashire <xyzzypdx@...> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 8:32:38 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT The one 7K CRT that does not ship well inside it frame is the 7104. I've bought two that the rear was hit hard enough to shatter the CRT. Got full credit but still sucks On Tue, May 22, 2018, 8:38 AM oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica= [email protected]> wrote: Hi I would like to help you out in this scope project you have there , but i do not have the time to part out scope as you would like me to . In addition shipping the crt like that can be problematic, breakage is possible even if double boxed or internal damage . That has happened to me with a scope that was shipped , broken crt and also another with open heater . If your friends are going to be around at a later date its best to just ship as is .
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
? On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 8:54 AM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote:? Hi Oliver
What do you think if i buy the scope, and you part out it?
My friends are outside of US now for work reasons.
The equipment is very big and very heavy for delivery.
So, if you accept, i will be very very grateful for your cooperation.
Please let me know? your decision when possible.
I will need the CRT, boards , knobs, plug ins and power supply.
I understand you are sure that CRT is OK.
Thank you so much.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de gerar2182 < gerardo_novillo@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 16:55 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
Let me check with my friens and i will contact you soon.
Thank you so so much.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 16:43 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
I would like to have $125 for scope and plugins
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
? On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 2:37 PM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote:? Thank you for your soon reply Oliver.
I understand your point of view.
So, let me know the cost of scope.
I have a couple of friends in Texas and Palm Bay.
If i buy the scope, may be possible to send to one of them?.
Then will be disassembled by them and send me the parts i need.
Thanks.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 15:06 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
Hi Gerardo I dont want to rip apart the scope and part out ,if you would like to buy the scope that has a few plugins thats fine , the only thing is it might too costly to ship to you as most things ar outside of the US .
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
? On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 1:52 PM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote:? Hi Oliver
Im new in this group and i dont know if is? possible to speak about transactions here.
Im very interested. I live in Argentina. Here is not possible to get this part .
Please let me know how much you want for the CRT and how much for shipping to
Argentina , using USPS.
Also let me know how much for the Power Supply.
May be i will in need of the Readout Board and some knobs.
Im trying to come back to life a completely dead equipment.
Thank you very much.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 13:57 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
Where are you locates i have a spare 7904 with ps out that i started to repair , crt is fine , i am in ny if you are interested.
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Hi. Ok, i will try to do the best. Please, if you can wait sometime i will arrange some solution for the delivery. Thank you so much. Obtener Outlook para Android<> ________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Pete Lancashire <xyzzypdx@...> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 8:32:38 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT The one 7K CRT that does not ship well inside it frame is the 7104. I've bought two that the rear was hit hard enough to shatter the CRT. Got full credit but still sucks On Tue, May 22, 2018, 8:38 AM oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica= [email protected]> wrote: Hi I would like to help you out in this scope project you have there , but i do not have the time to part out scope as you would like me to . In addition shipping the crt like that can be problematic, breakage is possible even if double boxed or internal damage . That has happened to me with a scope that was shipped , broken crt and also another with open heater . If your friends are going to be around at a later date its best to just ship as is .
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 8:54 AM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote: Hi Oliver
What do you think if i buy the scope, and you part out it?
My friends are outside of US now for work reasons.
The equipment is very big and very heavy for delivery.
So, if you accept, i will be very very grateful for your cooperation.
Please let me know your decision when possible.
I will need the CRT, boards , knobs, plug ins and power supply.
I understand you are sure that CRT is OK.
Thank you so much.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de gerar2182 < gerardo_novillo@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 16:55 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
Let me check with my friens and i will contact you soon.
Thank you so so much.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 16:43 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
I would like to have $125 for scope and plugins
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 2:37 PM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote: Thank you for your soon reply Oliver.
I understand your point of view.
So, let me know the cost of scope.
I have a couple of friends in Texas and Palm Bay.
If i buy the scope, may be possible to send to one of them?.
Then will be disassembled by them and send me the parts i need.
Thanks.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 15:06 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
Hi Gerardo I dont want to rip apart the scope and part out ,if you would like to buy the scope that has a few plugins thats fine , the only thing is it might too costly to ship to you as most things ar outside of the US .
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 1:52 PM, gerar2182<gerardo_novillo@...> wrote: Hi Oliver
Im new in this group and i dont know if is possible to speak about transactions here.
Im very interested. I live in Argentina. Here is not possible to get this part .
Please let me know how much you want for the CRT and how much for shipping to
Argentina , using USPS.
Also let me know how much for the Power Supply.
May be i will in need of the Readout Board and some knobs.
Im trying to come back to life a completely dead equipment.
Thank you very much.
Gerardo Novillo
________________________________ De: [email protected] <[email protected]> en nombre de oliver johnson via Groups.Io <nojjamaica@...> Enviado: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 13:57 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7904 CRT
Where are you locates i have a spare 7904 with ps out that i started to repair , crt is fine , i am in ny if you are interested.
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On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 02:23 pm, John Griessen wrote: On 05/23/2018 02:08 PM, Cliff Carrie wrote:
US $3.35 with free shipping from Shenzhen China Good call! the price beats a 5 meter cut piece of coax on aliexpress. The ends are free if you need 12 feet out of it...
Ordering one of them to test...
I have bought several different styles of 50Ohm BNC CABLES from this seller on E-bay, the quality has been very good. USA Seller and seems to have good stuff. he has RG174 in his store. Fast shipping and seems to be reasonable prices. Worth a look? excelsellerusa -- Michael Lynch Dardanelle, AR
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Re: Help needed with no trace no beamfinder on 465 (not b)
Hi Ian- thanks for responding! I've gotten sidetracked by other priorities, but will return to it later this week... and I'll look over your repair thread, which will help.
Keith
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Further to the issue I described in my last post, I installed a new battery and the erratic operation has not occurred. I still have to few tests to do but I now suspect that the battery charger isn't working as this also supplies power to the RAM chips even with no battery installed, so with no supply to RAM this could be the cause of the erratic operation.
Regards, Peter
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On 05/23/2018 02:08 PM, Cliff Carrie wrote: US $3.35 with free shipping from Shenzhen China Good call! the price beats a 5 meter cut piece of coax on aliexpress. The ends are free if you need 12 feet out of it... Ordering one of them to test...
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