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Re: Cure tracer with digital scope

 

I think you need to first create a new album and upload the photos separately.
Then put a URL link to the photos or album in your message.

On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 01:55 PM, wallydoc wrote:

I would attach a photo but I cannot find the attach button, I have done this
before,has the photo attachment mechanism changed?



Re: Rotary encoder switch info needed

 

One important thing to remember is that CB channels below 24 are NEITHER contiguous nor numerically ordered. So to repurpose these switches, you might set up an LED matrix to show continuity per switch position.

I¡¯ve seen a few switch tables for CBs but it was decades ago. I¡¯m pretty sure but not positive that all 40-channel CBs used a switched digital PLL and VCO arrangement and not the ¡°rock crusher¡± crystal mixer common with most 23-channel rigs.

FWIW the digitally controlled rigs used an octal +1 switch matrix on the VCO, but some had hex inputs. Some also had a ROM to block non-permitted frequencies. Defeating the ROM was non-trivial and required significant surgery.

If CBTRICKS.com is still online, you may be able to garner more info there. Especially if you are converting CBs to other bands, you want to buy their DVD set if it¡¯s still available.
It¡¯s much faster to search a DVD than to download from their website, especially since some misguided anti-CB dweebs continue to engage in DoS attacks against them, 30 years after the CB wars ended.

73
Jim N6OTQ

Sent from my quenched-gap spark transmitter.


Re: CRT's

 

To All - I did not post that link.? Dont know where that came from.? i have not posted anythin to this list for a few months.
73,
Bill WA2DVU

On Wednesday, April 28, 2021, 07:57:25 PM EDT, Dennis Tillman W7pF <dennis@...> wrote:


Hi Bill,
If you are going to post a suspicious link please be sure to say what it is for.
I can confirm (for Bill) that it is not suspicious after I checked it out.
It is a box of CRTs in the Portland area. At least one or two of them look like TV CRTs. The others are hard to tell. They appear to be old.
Dennis Tillman W7pF

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Higdon via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 12:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [TekScopes] CRT's

Say this earlier








--
Dennis Tillman W7pF
TekScopes Moderator


Tek 434 - bring it back to life....

 

I had to install the position potentiometer - it is missing - and therefore it must be the "upper and lower sreen switch" removed.
No idea, how the removement works? No scew, nothing?
I need your help.
Thank you very much!
Regards
Manfred


Re: Challenging 2465 PS repair

 

I bet this scope was originally being used at 120V mains, and the protection was barely being able to cope with the fault. But once put on Euro 240V it definitively was too much for the PS.


Re: Rotary encoder switch info needed

 

It looks like this encoder is arranged in 4 decks. My approach would be to look for a unique pin on each deck which is switched to more than one other pin as the shaft is rotated. This should be easy with an ohmmeter. If successful, I would assume that that pin is a common and connect it, through a resistor, to a voltage supply. Then, I would connect an LED from each of the other pins to ground (with the correct polarity. of course). apply the voltage and observe the result as the shaft is rotated. If you're lucky, this will give you what you want for each deck.


Re: Rotary encoder switch info needed

 

You're right, trying to work it out with an Ohm-meter will take forever and possibly cause brain damage. So it sounds like a job for an Arduino (Nano). It can scan all the possible connections quickly and serial.print those that are connected. Then wait for you to click the switch and repeat the scan/print procedure.


Re: OT! OT! --- E-bay fee change -- OT! OT! Cross posted with HP group.

 

Hi,

Interesting, that is definitely not going to work in a lot of places
outside the US. At least here, for example (Hungary, but I think true for
most of Europe) it is virtually impossible to pull money off an account
without explicit authorization. You can set up recurring variable amount
payments, like utilities bill, etc., but those can have limits and other
controls. There isn't any easy way for someone to just get money out of an
account without the approval of the owner. So I don't think this would be
the purpose for eBay.
As far as I know, with PayPal you only have to link an account if you are
selling and want to take the money out. At least I have never linked
anything to my PP account (other than a credit card (a virtual one, with
hard limits) and I was still able to buy and sell. I just used the amount
from the sale to buy other stuff (a lot of Tek stuff, to stay on topic),
never removed it from my PP account.

Szabolcs


Harvey White <madyn@...> ezt ¨ªrta (id?pont: 2021. ¨¢pr. 28.,
Sze, 21:51):

One thing to note is that credit cards may be easily disputed, thus not
guaranteeing EBAY their money immediately. Bank accounts may be harder
to dispute and more difficult to correct.

Note: in the US, debit cards, while they are convenient in maintaining
control over an account balance, do not have (or have not had) the legal
protections that credit cards do. May be the same with a bank withdraw.

Harvey


On 4/28/2021 2:21 PM, Martin wrote:
Hi Dave,

OK, I don't actually know Paypal, never subscribed to it as I have
learned about all these experiences before.

Still I do not understand why Ebay needs any agreement at all with their
new payment methods.
They already could dip into my account via the credit card, so what else
do they need?

cheers
Martin










Photo Notifications #photo-notice

[email protected] Notification
 

Ed Breya <edbreya@...> added the album 40 position encoder switch: Accord PSS-23 switch


The following photos have been uploaded to the 40 position encoder switch album of the [email protected] group.

By: Ed Breya <edbreya@...>


Re: Rotary encoder switch info needed

 

That link may not show properly. I have put a picture in the photos department, just in case.

Ed


Rotary encoder switch info needed

 

I have a few old 40-position absolute encoder switches that probably came from some 40-channel CBs I junked out years ago. One of my projects is a special time mark/clock/risetime-check generator type thing to be built as a custom 7K plug-in. I need about 32 (5-bit) positions or more to control all the possible 1-2-5 sequence ranges from 1 nSec (1 GHz) to a few Sec (<1 Hz), so these 40 (5+-bit) spot ones would be great, and provide spare positions and allow absolute settings to be kept. The problem is to figure out how they're encoded. Regular binary or gray codes are often used for general purpose switches, but I don't know if these are standard - they may be specially coded for the original CB applications to synthesize the 40 channels, directly working the sub-parts, rather than telling a processor the setting. To make things worse, I can't find any data other than photos of various ones for sale. The switches look pretty nicely made, probably Japanese brand, called "Accord," and the base part seems to be "PSS-23." I found a picture of one linked below. Finally, to make matters worse yet, try searching something "accord" without the car showing up.



These apparently came in various position counts including 12 and 24, and of course 40, evidenced by the ones I have. The pin pattern seems to be fixed, with four layers of 5 pins per section, which would give up to 4-bits each, and it looks like the sections are paired, with the same kind flipped and attached. So, each pair set could be enough to provide at least 32 unique position codes, or lots more, depending on the coding arrangement. I have three pieces that look like the picture, with four rows of pins (two pairs), and two larger of the same style, with six rows of pins (three pairs). These bigger ones may have extra stuff for driving say, a two-digit LED 1-40 count readout.

Anyway, it would be very tedious to ohm out all the possible pin codes and even identifying which pin is which, so a data sheet of some sort would go a long way toward figuring it out, even if the coding is special. I'd appreciate if anyone has any info about, or knowledge of these switches. A long shot may be if there are any specific CB synthesizer designs that happen to use these switches - they must have been fairly common thirty or so years ago, for me to have salvaged out five pieces. The switches are held together with melted-head plastic pins, so can't be readily disassembled for inspection - it would be no big deal otherwise. It may become necessary to cut and goop as a last resort.

Yes, I know it would be simple enough to do an incremental up-down coder/counter deal, but I like the idea of having the absolute position coding - no remembering or resetting needed. That's what I was planning on before I discovered these little gems in the junk department. BTW the time and frequency will display on-screen only, so there's no need for 40 tiny knob marks and labels.

Ed


Re: CRT's

 

Hi Bill,
If you are going to post a suspicious link please be sure to say what it is for.
I can confirm (for Bill) that it is not suspicious after I checked it out.
It is a box of CRTs in the Portland area. At least one or two of them look like TV CRTs. The others are hard to tell. They appear to be old.
Dennis Tillman W7pF

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Higdon via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 12:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [TekScopes] CRT's

Say this earlier








--
Dennis Tillman W7pF
TekScopes Moderator


Re: 465 Electrolytic Capacitor Replacement

 

Someone stated:

¡­ "it's very important IMO that you use a *top* quality solder such as Kester even when unsoldering a joint. The Kester 2% silver loaded solder is hard to find and is now stupidly expensive but it's by far the best solder that I've ever used and I HOARD every bit of it that I can find and I use it very sparingly. I won't waste my time trying to use lead free solder. FOR ANYTHING!"


I agree, I have used many resin cored solders (60/40, 63/37, 2% Ag, 4% Ag, Alpha brand, Kester brand, No-name, etc.) over the past 50+ years, and in terms of rosin smell (some I just could not stand!) and ease of use, I prefer the 4% Ag from Kester.


Around 15 years +/- ago, I bought as much of the 4% silver solder as I could afford, the .015" diameter Kester 4% silver, leaded solder, mostly, in my opinion, the finest that I ever used. It truly makes beautiful joints, using any soldering iron (for over twenty years I used a ¡°tip" oriented temperature controlled Weller WP-60-3) until I bought several of the stand alone Weller and JBC station/iron units. I happen to sell an occasional item on eBay, almost 20% of the time, its the: 12¡¯, 25¡¯, 50¡¯, 100¡¯, and 200¡¯ lengths of that .015 diameter, 4% silver, leaded Kester Solder.


Sorry for the self-aggrandizing mention, but that solder is still available, and some 2% Ag also (until I get down to my last roll).



Steven ( stevenel57 on eBay )


Re: OT! OT! --- E-bay fee change -- OT! OT! Cross posted with HP group.

 

Thank you Alastair for pointing out an extremely important point about all of these financial discussions whether it is with eBay, PayPal, Credit Cards, Banks (Federal or State), or Credit Unions: The laws governing these financial entities are totally dependent on the country they are operating in.

As near as I can tell most of this discussion is only relevant if you are in the United States and its territories. Other countries financial regulations, as well as their privacy laws, determine what can and cannot be done to you as an individual or as a company using the financial institutions in that country.

Dennis Tillman W7pF

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of alastair.knights@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 11:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] OT! OT! --- E-bay fee change -- OT! OT! Cross posted with HP group.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but this change applies to the US and may not be the same in in other countries, yes?

Here in the UK, the fine print appears to confirm that from 1 June 2021, you can still use PayPal to buy or sell goods privately. Also, if both parties use PayPal, the money gets paid into seller account immediately (in most cases). NB This is for private, low volume sellers. The seller then has to settle up with eBay in full each month. Links as follows:

New User Agreement
Payment Methods
Getting Paid

Alastair







--
Dennis Tillman W7pF
TekScopes Moderator


Re: 7A16A with an unknown modification MOD515D

 

Added some more photos
/g/TekScopes/album?id=263432


Re: Cure tracer with digital scope

 

Sorry it took so long to reply, Bert.. My curve tracer went wonky and it took days to figure it out. It turned out to be the Power Cord where it enters the cabinet. Intermittent operation but never OFF. I suppose one of either the GND or COMMON wires were open. FIXED.

501A B&K Curve tracer Settings
Vert Sensitivity 1mA/div
Step Selector 2uA/div
Sweep Volts 20 Volts

Agilent 54810 Settings
Math Setup
Source 1 CH 2
Source 2 CH 1

CH 1 5 V/div
CH 2 500 mV/ div
Horizontal 5 mSec/div

Banana Plug Connections:
CH 1 to B^K Vert
CH 2 to B&K Vert

I get a lot of loop back on the digital scope as well as on the Tek 475.
any suggestions?
I would attach a photo but I cannot find the attach button, I have done this before,has the photo attachment mechanism changed?


Re: OT! OT! --- E-bay fee change -- OT! OT! Cross posted with HP group.

 

There may also be a difference in the transaction fees that eBay needs to pay, as in one may be a flat fee while the other may be a percent of transacted amount. It's been a long time since I looked into this, but I think that credit cards charge the recipient a percent of the transaction amount or a minimum transaction fee, so small transactions are relatively expensive, and there's a floor on how much less expensive larger transactions will get. By contrast I could believe that bank transactions may be a flat fee regardless of the transacted amount, which would give eBay more control over the fees they have to pay (by bundling many small transactions with the same account into one larger transaction).

I am, of course, speculating from a wealth of ignorance, and have no interest in playing the advocate for eBay's devil.

-- Jeff Dutky


Re: OT! OT! --- E-bay fee change -- OT! OT! Cross posted with HP group.

 

One thing to note is that credit cards may be easily disputed, thus not guaranteeing EBAY their money immediately.? Bank accounts may be harder to dispute and more difficult to correct.

Note: in the US, debit cards, while they are convenient in maintaining control over an account balance, do not have (or have not had) the legal protections that credit cards do.? May be the same with a bank withdraw.

Harvey

On 4/28/2021 2:21 PM, Martin wrote:
Hi Dave,

OK, I don't actually know Paypal, never subscribed to it as I have learned about all these experiences before.

Still I do not understand why Ebay needs any agreement at all with their new payment methods.
They already could dip into my account via the credit card, so what else do they need?

cheers
Martin





CRT's

 

Say this earlier


Re: OT! OT! --- E-bay fee change -- OT! OT! Cross posted with HP group.

 

Hi Dave,

OK, I don't actually know Paypal, never subscribed to it as I have learned about all these experiences before.

Still I do not understand why Ebay needs any agreement at all with their new payment methods.
They already could dip into my account via the credit card, so what else do they need?

cheers
Martin