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Re: Choosing the right replacement cap
Hey adesilva_1999, please feel free to email me directly to discuss any 465 questions. We seem to be on the same path. Have you taken out the vertical preamp yet? Message me if not. I learned a few things taking it out that were not at all obvious for a first timer like myself.
Dave |
Re: To pay for Peter Keller's Book ...
On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 12:53 PM Lawrance A. Schneider <
llaassllaaass@...> wrote: To pay with PayPal, it need more than MarianT@... . I don't know whatIt looks like the web interface on groups.io garbles anything that looks like an email address. I don't have trouble with this in email delivery, see /g/TekScopes/message/173743. |
Re: (OT) Where to go for 70s IBM hardware? I'm looking for a terminal.
Those prices are not reasonable, and the sellers do not accept offers,
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contrary to what's advertised on eBay. On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 4:57 PM Jeff Dutky <jeff.dutky@...> wrote:
A quick look at ePay reveals 3 IBM 5110s, and two 5120s all asking in |
Re: 2710 Spectrum Analyser 'Cannot count VCO, IF' error
Hello Martin,
Sorry for the late responce. I have an open 2712 here which had repairs and now need adjustments. I checked the signals you asked for: J195 - signal comes from the Reference Board and was as it should be a stable in amplitude 100MHz signal about 300mV peak-peak, which is about calculated -7dBm. J190 - 10MHz signal, more or less square wave 450mV peak-peak, which is about 0dBm calculated (including harmonics). J180 - I measured while "in LOCK" state (in the 2712 lower than in 50kHz/div spans) a constant 800mV peak-peak 16MHz - while not "in LOCK" state there were signal bursts while changing the span/div. I hope this helps you a bit further. I will have this and other of this family analyzers open for a while to come, so it will be easy for me to do measurements. Jaap PA0JRK Netherlands |
Re: Choosing the right replacement cap
On 2020-11-25 12:59 p.m., Dave Peterson via groups.io wrote:
Thanks everyone for the endorsements on these component suppliers. Makes me feel good about joining in, and you have given me some good ideas on how to order - like accumulating a shopping list and ordering when it's over a certain value. That's what I do, to hit Digikey's free shipping threshold. That way I can fool myself that I'm saving money! --Toby
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Re: Choosing the right replacement cap
adesilva_1999,
Is C1534 the "can" at the back of A9 that's near VR1525?! I just unmounted the + lead yesterday to check it because it had the same "white flaky stuff". I almost dove into a full tear down of dismounting A9 because of it. Cooler heads prevailed and the pulling of the + lead allowed me to check it (it was good) and get it soldered back in. Looks way better anyway. I hadn't gotten to checking it's existence in the schematics yet. I'd say "white flaky stuff" isn't a problem in-and-of-itself, but I would like to know what's going on there. Dave |
Re: Fix or Part Out a Tek 475A
oops I meant the 1N400x series....I was interrupted while typing and hit send prior proofing...you are correct.
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oh the leads on 160 were same as 4148 ¸é±ð²Ô¨¦±ð On 11/25/20 10:32 AM, Jeff Dutky wrote:
¸é±ð²Ô¨¦±ð,what I used to replace the same is MUR 160 ... the 4148 was not fast enoughBut the datasheet for the MUR160 gives Trr of 60 ns, while the 1N4148 gives Trr of 4 ns. How could the 1N4148 be too slow? |
Re: Choosing the right replacement cap
Thanks to Dave and the rest who are on this thread. I am trying to restore a low serial 465 as I write. I also got good pointers from EEV blog. Some great contributors there. Some of you may be on there also. I will book mark this and if I can, I will make some comments.
That C 1419 is a common failure from what I have read. Someone also pointed to the "wet tantalum" caps like C 1534. I just found this last night as the + ve lead was surrounded by white flaky stuff where it goes in to the board. Surprisingly, it shows no leakage near the cap itself! Now I have to check for similar caps elsewhere. My scope works for the most part except the CH 2. Some positions seem to have bad contact on those flimsy switch contacts. Before I go into the caps, I want to get that sorted out. |
Re: Fix or Part Out a Tek 475A
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what I used to replace the same is MUR 160 ... the 4148 was not fast enoughBut the datasheet for the MUR160 gives Trr of 60 ns, while the 1N4148 gives Trr of 4 ns. How could the 1N4148 be too slow? Also the capacitance of the MUR160 is 20 pF compared to the 1N4148's 4 pF, so the MUR160 would throw the capacitance of the whole sub-circuit off. Finally, when I look at alleged pictures of MUR160s they seem to have really fat leads, which makes sense given their higher current rating, but that will only make it more difficult to place them in the existing holes, especially since I'm having to do the rework without access to the backside of the PCB. |
Tektronix 492A input attenuator repair ????
Bent Andersen
Hello Groupe
I have this 492A spectrum analyzer and I have found that the input attenuator (0-60DB) i defect.... is it still possible to get spare parts for this attenuator or is there a better way to repair it .... I have bypass the attenuator and I can se signal on the display, so I hope that the rest of the spectrum analyzer is working... OZ1CT Ben |
Re: Tek 3A1 Module
My rule of thumb when looking at electronic equipment on E-bay or
anywhere else is to look *closely* for signs that anyone has been into it. If it isn't *sealed* and it's not guaranteed to work then expect the worst. I wouldn't pay more than a *minimal* price for anything that has been opened and that isn't guaranteed to operate properly. I've seen far too much equipment for sale by big time used equipment dealers such as Tucker Electronics being sold in "as-is" condition that I'm sure have already been stripped of anything useful. On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 10:08 AM David Holland <david.w.holland@...> wrote: Yeah, as Brenda said.... |
Re: Choosing the right replacement cap
AGREED,
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We use Mouser primarily, they have a fulfillment center at Love Field (or is it DFW?)so shipping response is great. Having said that we also us Allied, Newark, and Digikey with similar results. Arrow is OK IF you can figure out their website and they have minimums. All of these folks have shipped one part orders without question. Here in the US, Mouser has a $7.99 shipping charge for up to 2-day so that¡¯s a help also. Steve Datagate Systems, LLC -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of toby@... Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 8:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Choosing the right replacement cap On 2020-11-25 11:11 a.m., Tom Phillips wrote: Dave, +1. I use Digikey constantly, they will ship a single part just as efficiently as 10,000. I've had (free) deliveries of tiny orders within 11 hours of ordering. Just a happy customer. --T
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OT - PCMCIA anyone?
I know some of you guys deal with older computers and PCMCIA cards so I figured I'd offer it up here first.
I have an ISA bus PC Card adapter (card that goes into the ISA bus and you can plug a PC Card card into it). I don't know if it'll take one card or two, it's new and sealed. Made by or for Lucent/Orinoco. Second item is a Lucent/Orinoco PC Card wireless network adapter 11Mbps. Also new and sealed. I have no use for either and before I bit bucket or recycle it, I figured I would offer it up here for the cost of shipping. CONUS only. You can email me direct at either: vev at michvhf dot com OR vev at cdupe dot com Vince - K8ZW. -- K8ZW |
Re: Choosing the right replacement cap
Thanks everyone for the endorsements on these component suppliers. Makes me feel good about joining in, and you have given me some good ideas on how to order - like accumulating a shopping list and ordering when it's over a certain value.
Ke-Fong, you bring up a point that was on the edge of my mind last night: this 465 scope C1419 cap is clearly a marginal element of these scopes. Why would they do that? Because, as I well know being in the R&D branch of tech development: cost, cost, cost. Sometimes you don't know where the marginality in a design is until you get it in the field. And mass manufactures have to get each and every component down to the lowest possible cost. Given the serial numbers on these things it's clear Tektronix made well over 300,000 of them. That's a lot of C1419s. And that's just one component in the whole scope. I guess I'm not a restoration purist in taking on 465 repair. I'm very willing to use modern components in place of originals. Especially when a marginality like this has been exposed by several lifetimes worth of use in the field. I hope I'm not offending any enthusiasts with my intent to apply an overkill upgrade on this cap. But it seems reasonable to me. And it's part of the hobbyist entertainment to over analyze and over think such minutia. But that's what engineering is, no? I'm liking the Nichicon UCY2C470MPD1TD for this cap. I'll probably get 10 of them from Mouser. I'll even replace it in my working 465 once I have this one up and running. Seems a good prophylactic. But I won't be ordering it for a while. I have a lot of scope to go through before I know for sure everything I'll need. And I need to go down and make sure it'll fit too. Dave |
Re: To pay for Peter Keller's Book ...
It will be:
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MarianT@... If that gets garbled, it is: MarianT (at) YouthEastsideServices (dot) org Colin. -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lawrance A. Schneider Sent: 25 November 2020 17:53 To: [email protected] Subject: [TekScopes] To pay for Peter Keller's Book ... Hello Dennis, To pay with PayPal, it need more than MarianT@... . I don't know what the "..." is. Clearly, I'm lesserly smart than others, but I just don't know what to use. Thank you, larry |
Re: Fix or Part Out a Tek 475A
what I used to replace the same is MUR 160 in my 422 had several that just went leaky. the 4148 was not fast enough
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¸é±ð²Ô¨¦±ð ¸é±ð²Ô¨¦±ð On 11/25/20 12:19 AM, Tom Lee wrote:
Hi Jeff, |
Re: Choosing the right replacement cap
Hi John,
I'm a regular "user" of Mouser and Farnell (UK). Mouser offers free fedex express (basically 2 days) from Texas to France for order above 50 or 70 euros (but I think it's 50). Farnell does free UPS for 30 euros (ok UK is next to France with a small arm of sea to cross). I believe they have a business model to do just that, small orders. Along with probably big ones, of course. Small orders are not only hobbyiest, but I believe for prototyping purpose, "professionals" may place that kind of order. And plus, a few very good Nichicon capacitors can look cheap enough, but they're even cheaper when you buys in the 10000s. I'm wondering at why price, let's say Samsung, gets its capacitors for their consumer TV. All in all, they probably make some kind of profit, or at least break even. Best regards, |
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