W8/ Cougar
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I still have this bird for sale, can¡¯t figure out how to reply on this site to posts 702-217-8268
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surplus stuff
The angle of attack plumbing kit and the U-104 are gone. The riveting and dimpling frame includes the tooling needed to use. Red
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JIM STANTON MANUAL
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I recently sent for a copy along with a check for Mr. Stanton Tailwind Manual using this address: Jim Stanton 1642 McCulloch Bl #184 Lake Havasu City, AZ 86403 I understood Personal checks are fine 4 weeks have passed and nothing has been received in the mail. Did I send it to the wrong address or is it just no longer available? Thanks for any help Mike
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Use of fuel additives. Re: John H's MMO comment
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John H mentioned MMO as a fuel additive. Many now deride this product as fairy dust, pink elephant repellant and snake oil, or just a pepermint essence mixed with lanoline and diesel. However, I use it, my father used it, and my grandfather used it. In the case of my ancestors, it was before hardened seats, high lead fuels, and old, slow, crude (describes my GO-300) engines. There are a lot of others that use it and I have never seen a report of an issue caused by its use. At one time I had a copy of an old SB from Continental advising the use of MMO in certain circumstances. I know I had a copy of it around somewhere,but for the life of me I can't find it. John, I think you have been around as long as I have. You would'nt happen to know of the SB to which I refer? Mark McAtee From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of John Haedtler via groups.io <johnhaedtler@...> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2024 3:27 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TailwindForum] Keith's next Adventure The Marvel is a great valve lubricant. Works about the same as the lead that was added to the fuel. The lead is tetra Ethel lead not lead like in the paints. That seems to confuse a lot of people. John Haedtler On Oct 24, 2024, at 3:23 pm, Joe Norris via groups.io <joepilot13@...> wrote: I use the standard 4 oz Marvel in 10 gallons of gas, so just base it on the size of your tank. Works great!! On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 16:16 Ben Wilson via groups.io <4benwilson@...> wrote: Joe, how much Mystery Oil for a regular W10 tank full? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Joe Norris Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2024 11:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TailwindForum] Keith's next Adventure Here in Wisconsin just about every station has ethanol-free premium fuel. This is due to the high volume of "recreational" usage (boats, ATVs, snowmobiles, small engines, etc.) So getting "car gas" for the airplane is not problematic. In fact, quite a few airports around here have auto fuel available. As long as you keep it fresh it works great in low compression aircraft engines. Having said all that, I usually run 100LL in both the Tailwind and the Super Cub. I always add Marvel Mystery Oil to the fuel, and I always lean aggressively both on the ground and in the air. The plugs stay surprisingly clean. Joe On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 10:30 AM John Haedtler via groups.io <johnhaedtler@...> wrote: One big thing to remember when using today auto fuel is it has Ethanol added to it and This is NOT at all good in aircraft use. Mainly because of the altitude changes airplanes go through. This causes the ethanol to generate water in the fuel. Even if you remove the ethanol you will then need an octane booster. Almost every gas station can get ethanol free fuel, because it is not added at the refinery but at the jobber site. I would not go less than 91 octane. When I was maintaining crop dusters we almost always used car gas(Pre ethanol times) And I would add Marvel to the gas. We never had any valve problems in the big round engines! John Haedtler On Oct 22, 2024, at 3:40 pm, Tailwind14855 via groups.io<Tailwind14855@...> wrote: Keith- I think many including myself worry too much about CHT. Lycoming's numbers for "high performance cruise"-435 and economy 400. IIRC Mahlon Russell said that he has never seen any evidence that 425 causes damage to Lycoming cylinders. I did no have CHT or EGT gages in my Pitts. 1000 hours mostly at 3300 r/m and it still had perfect compression and no significant oil use for cross country. I ran as high as 2700 r/m for cross country. I just can't bring myself to treat the Tailwind engine that way. Regarding fuel your 320 is a 80 octane engine. I have known people who ran regular car gas in the low compression Lycomings with no issues. Family friend had a Pacer that he bought almost new. That engine never saw anything but car gas. When the Piper factor people would visit him they would ask for "some of that good tractor gas". On Tuesday, October 22, 20
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CHT
Are we drifting of subject here or is it just my age? It gets awfully hard to research a topic if things take a 180. The subject of CHT is a topic of great interest to me as once I lost the porcelain off the plug in the bottom of the #1 cyl and it apparently it turned into a glow plug and was firing off the intake manifold charge when the intake valve opened. It didn't kill the engine but it idled back to 600 rpm which really checks your heart taking off over 100 ft tall oak trees. Farmer John Covering the Colt now, online the cost for a Cub is listed from $40 to $60,000
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Keith's next Adventure
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Time for another Epic Adventure! Next week on October 10th, Rick and I are heading for Corpus Christi. On the way down, we are overnighting in Ardmore OK to look at a W8 that is for sale. Then on the 11th flying down to KRKP in Rockport TX. We are staying with my new friend Larry Howell (thank you so much Larry). We will go visit the Lexington Aircraft carrier for a day and the Texas Aquarium for another day and then head back. Not sure about the return trip but depending on weather we may just had all the way back in one day. Or we might get a wild hair and decide to see something else on the way back and detour a little. Stay tuned for more info and pics. Keith
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Struts
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This is probably an old subject, but my drawings call for .058 wall tubing for the wing struts. I am only able to find.049 wall. What am i missing? Thanks
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Clement's no rib stitch fabric covering methodology
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Evening everyone! Hope life has been well and healthy! A couple questions pertaining to Clement's method of covering. I've tried to grasp an idea how the process is implemented, but I'm left with a few questions still! There seems to be such a wide variety about how people go about this maule like method, I'd really like to see what's worked on the tailwind! I get the idea of treating each bay bw ribs as individual areas to be covered. When it comes time to wraping the fabric around the ribs, does everyone glue to the rib sides, going under the rib and glue to opposite rib side or do you continue to glue it to the top of the rib going all way under and over? Do i need to apply glue to the actual rib top or just glue where fabric will attach at rib side? Where should the glue be applied and where shouldn't it? Should protective tape be applied over ribs before apply fabric? At which point in the process should shrinking be done and to what temp vs applying finish tapes? Last question! Let's say i have older w8 elevator, and the elevator ribs were simply 1/4 tube somewhat flattened! Does one still need to worry about stiching or gluing this small? If so would it be easier to stitch vs previously discussed maule method?? I know it's so many questions, but from what I gathered from all your wonderful experiences, these few questions would hopefully help many others in the future! God bless and thank you greg
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Keith's next Adventure Temple TX. wow what a stop and $4.37 for fuel. Next stop Rockport.
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Rudder pedals
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I¡¯ve been looking for a set of drawings for the rudder pedals. I thought that I had seen a set somewhere. Thanks. Terry
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Eric's Tailwind
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Eric Schlanser's W10 is now with a new caretaker. Stuart Anderson from the Tucson area is the new caretaker.
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All wood Woodwind
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Fellow Tailwinders, years ago I saw photos and read article about Hansen Woodwind and had on my mind, if can find any Woodwind drawings and can build all wood Woodwing = with classic wooden W10 wings. Can anybody help with some info, drawings of Woodwind? Best Regards, Jeri
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Mystery plane
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Just got my issue of Sport Aviation and Budd Davisson had an article that had a pic of "an unknown" Tailwind in it. He wanted the owner to please contact him so he got credit for the pic. Pic is on page 96. Roundel on the tail has a 79 number in it.... Cheers, Eric N83V
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Files section
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This is probably dumb, but how do i find the files section. I am desperately trying to find the info for aluminum ailerons and flaps. Thanks
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cowl chafe cloth
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Do I need to install cowl chafe cloth where my fiberglass cowl rests on the windshield aluminum? Thanks to the tailwind form group for all your inputs. Dan Coffey
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Steel channel
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Anybody know where to get the 1/2 in x.035 called out for the windshield bows? I¡¯m having no luck. Thanks.
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Want to buy Tailwind Tricycle gear
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Hello folks. I've been scouring the internet for quite some time, admiring and reading about the Tailwind. I'm looking to finally transition from my Cessna 150 into something a bit different. I've got about 500 hours now and certainly feel like this will be within my capabilities. I'm hoping that someone might have a Tailwind with tricycle gear for sale or point me in the right direction. I'm located in San Diego but can certainly travel. Thanks for reading, Ben
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Insurance!
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Recently got my renewal invoice for liability insurance for Buttercup N365ED from Avemco. New requirements were added that state I have to have ANNUAL Basic Med exams and BFRs ¨C every year! After getting a quote from Falcon/Starr of $2500 (yikes!) ¨C that¡¯s not hull insurance! I decided Avemco¡¯s quote of $520 (+/-) isn¡¯t so bad. Yes, I¡¯m a senior (76) and I guess that¡¯s the price you have to pay ¨C to prove you are safe enough to fly. Dave Lamphere -- Dave N365ED Wittman Buttercup
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Oil fitting size and theads/inch.
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The 90-degree fitting for the oil hose is too wide to allow the oil filter to be screwed in place. I want to cut the fitting shorter (cut the threads that go into the block) and use a die to add more threads to the fitting so that it will screw into the block enough to clear the oil filter. See the two pics: One depicts the stock fitting preventing the oil filter from being screwed in, the other an altered fitting screwed farther into the block. To screw it in farther into the block, I need to shorten the block end of the fitting and then thread it (with a die like we old guys do with galvanized pipe) to allow it to screw in closer to the block. To do that, I need to know the size of that end of the fitting so I can buy a die. What is the size and thread/inch? Lyc O-360. All new engine and oil filter mounting parts. Yes, I'm nuts.
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