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NEW OWNER OF TARTAN 27 1964

 

Ron,
You are correct.? The difference between a 64' and 65' is pretty minimal if at all.? Since you have no mast or boom I can safely assume that you have no standing rigging either (the wires that hold the mast up).? Replacing the spars (mast & boom) could be a pretty expensive proposition not to mention all the standing rigging.? One thing you could do is find an old mast and boom and try to retro fit it into your boat.? You would need to shim the hole in the deck the mast goes through as well as the foot (where the bottom of the mast sits on the floor or sole so it does not slide around inside the cabin).? There is a File under the T27Owners Group called information.htm that has the specifics on the standing rigging, spars, running rigging and other details about the boat.
It sounds like the interior of your boat was pretty badly stripped.? Sorry to hear that.? The old Tartan 27s were built like Cadillacs when they were made and the hull is quite thick (1/2", I just cut a hole in my hull) and they have classic sailboat lines.? With all the original wood on them they can look beautiful but all that wood needs work so maybe you are lucky to some extent.? I hate to say it but this boat would make a great platform with just a 15HP (minimum I would suggest) outboard motor on her and a place to sleep.? You could get camping cooking gear, a bucket and be done with it too.? Keep in mind that this boat was originally powered with a 20HP (or is it 30?) engine that you only need the peak output from? unless it is windy as hell.
Originally there was a v-berth up in the forward part of the cabin for sleeping (with lockers underneath for storage) and the fresh water tank was located here under the v-berth (I assume that has been stripped out of your boat too?).? Is the rudder still attached to the hull (there would be a tiller for steering in the back of the cockpit if there was)?
Now that the Atomic4 engine is gone (along with a lot of stuff) your boat is probably a lot lighter than mine.? People do make custom trailers for these hulls (again, usually expensive) but the stated weight of this boat (fully loaded) is 7200 Lbs which is almost 4 tons.? You need a pretty strong vehicle to tow this much weight any distance.? If there is a boatyard nearby that would pull your boat out they usually supply jack-stands to hold your boat up for a monthly price if you want it out of the water to work on.
As far as pics of this boat most people tend to take shots of themselves relaxing in the cockpit rather than detailing all the features of their boat but there are photos at various owners websites under the Links section of the T27Owners Group (here is my site which is also listed there:? http://www.odalisque.us/ ).? I can try to take some pics of the interior of my boat this weekend to show you what was probably there some time ago.
Definitely check out the Links page for this website that I have put together if you haven't already:? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/T27Owners/links

Caleb
#328, Odalisque



-----Original Message-----
From: ronmarinepcolafl@...
To: T27Owners@...
Sent: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 6:52 PM
Subject: [T27Owners] Re: NEW OWNER OF TARTAN 27 1965

My mistake it is a 1964 not 65 if that makes a difference....
I did have jib with her. But dont know where to find a mast and boom.
there is absolutley nothing inside of her except a sink and a bench. 
I think the guy who gave it to me was just putting around fishing off 
of her. I love the way she looks.... though kept up very poorly by 
the last owner. I under stand fiberglass pretty well. I know how to 
paint boats. I am just not real familiar with the interior and how to 
build correctly. I am attempting to build the interior platform for 
the bed in the bow area so I can at least spend the night on her. The 
prev. owner has already fixed a mount on the rear of the boat for a 
outboard. But she still has the ability to glide right along with a 
sail. I just need a mast. She has no atomic 4 . for some reason it 
has been removed and the shaft hole plugged. She doesnt leak. Alos 
none of the exterior is available either...... this is strickly a 
shell of a boat. But I see much more. Even if it takes a while to 
make worthy of using. I am also looking for a trailer to get her out 
of the water and work on her. So if you hear or know of anything send 
me a line.   If you want to see some pics to give advice let me know.
I know nothing about this boat but I am learning and love this boat 
more and more... 


--- In T27Owners@..., calebjess@... wrote:
>
>  Ron,
>  You have got an old T27 if I am not miss taken. It is a beautiful 
old boat and needs some of the interior perhaps replaced. A picture 
or two of what had been removed or damaged might have been useful but 
I will refer you to a few Files on this website that has the original 
specifications for the T27 as well as the original owners manual. My 
boat still has the alcohol stove and galley on the starboard or right 
side of the boat facing the bow with a bunch of nice interior 
varnished teak that still looks nice and my boat is from 1967 so I 
feel bad for you that your boat was vandalized and hurt. 
>  I am sorry to say that I dont have any pictures of the cabin 
interior of the Taran 27 on this website but there are some photos of 
us and aour boat at my webste  
>  I will also refer you to the Links section of this website for 
information about fibergalss (otherwise known as epoxy and cloth or 
matt) , your current engine which is probably an Atomic 4 which you 
might be able to get running if you havent tried much and encourage 
you to continue to ask about your boat project. 
>  There is an inherent problem with the T27 where the transom slopes 
in towards the hull makes mounting an outboard motor platform 
somewhat problematic but not impossible with the use of tools and 
epoxy and fiberglass. 
>  Even with the best motor you would only be able to go about 6+ mph 
over water minus current. Are you sure you want to turn this sail 
boat into a motor boat? Does it have any sails that the crackhead did 
not make off with? Maybe the old gal can still move on her own,
>  Keep us posted and good luck with your project.
>  #328 Odalisque
>  Caleb
>  
>     
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: ronmarinepcolafl@...
>  To: T27Owners@...
>  Sent: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 9:02 PM
>  Subject: [T27Owners] NEW OWNER OF TARTAN 27 1965
>  
>   I am looking for specs on the interior of this boat.
> I was givin this boat and it is almost completly empty.
> The mast I had taken down to get under a bridge and by the 
> time I returned to the ship yard where i left it. Some crackhead
> cut it up and sold it for scrap. Anyway. My kids and I really like 
the 
> way it looks and my son is very eager to help rebuild this boat to 
at 
> least a motorized cruiser. If anyone knows where to get the best 
deals 
> on parts and maybe even some blueprints so I can build stuff 
myself. 
> Your knowlege would be greatly appreciated. I am also looking for 
an 
> outboard to fit this until we can drydock and replace the onboard 
engine
> 
> thanks a bunch
> Ron
> 
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Ouch..... I think on that boat I would tell you to hunt down another one.? Your going to spend $4k getting it back to being a sailboat, even conservatively.? You might find a mast for about $200.? But the boom, hardware, running rigging (lines to work sails), standing rigging are gonna put you back $1500 even if you cheapskate it.? Then you are looking at another $1000 for sails if you buy them used.
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The rigging is simple and straightforward, but I'm betting you don't have chainplates either.
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Sad sad sad.? There should be a brass plate on the hatch you slide back to go in the boat.? It will tell you what hull # you have.? I have #71 which is 1964 as well.? I posted a link earlier on a boat on Long Island for $4K.
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If you decide you have money to burn and want to restore this boat...... plan to spend $5 to $7K.? I (or another member) could measure things for you as you go.? Although, frankly, you could pay Tartan $70 for a copy of hte plans and then rebuild from there.? There are some things I don't like and would do differently, but that mainly involves making the head bigger so it could have a shower.? I also took the floor out of my v-berth and installed a Marine AC unit there.? Makes my boat much more tolerable when it gets hot down here in Houston.
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As for the other new member.? The lazarette is sort of a bottomless pit.? Although it is nice for certain things.? :)
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ronmarinepcolafl
 

Thanks for all the info. I do have all the rigging and the hardware
from when I took down the mast. THe cost involved in fixing and the
time wold be way to long and to much. I could just find one on the
internet and set sail.... That is why I think I will put a small
outboard on it and just push it around. I live 10 min from a couple
of islands and really great camping spots. I can fit my family on it
and we can at least get on the water... that is the main thing/
I love being on the water and so does my family


--- In T27Owners@..., <brian@...> wrote:

Ouch..... I think on that boat I would tell you to hunt down another
one. Your going to spend $4k getting it back to being a sailboat,
even
conservatively. You might find a mast for about $200. But the
boom,
hardware, running rigging (lines to work sails), standing rigging
are
gonna put you back $1500 even if you cheapskate it. Then you are
looking at another $1000 for sails if you buy them used.

The rigging is simple and straightforward, but I'm betting you don't
have chainplates either.

Sad sad sad. There should be a brass plate on the hatch you slide
back
to go in the boat. It will tell you what hull # you have. I have
#71
which is 1964 as well. I posted a link earlier on a boat on Long
Island
for $4K.

If you decide you have money to burn and want to restore this
boat......
plan to spend $5 to $7K. I (or another member) could measure
things for
you as you go. Although, frankly, you could pay Tartan $70 for a
copy
of hte plans and then rebuild from there. There are some things I
don't
like and would do differently, but that mainly involves making the
head
bigger so it could have a shower. I also took the floor out of my
v-berth and installed a Marine AC unit there. Makes my boat much
more
tolerable when it gets hot down here in Houston.




As for the other new member. The lazarette is sort of a bottomless
pit.
Although it is nice for certain things. :)

Brian Greul
Texas Shirt Company www.txshirts.com <>
713-802-0369 / 713-861-6261 (fax)
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