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halyards back to cockpit


 

I am thinking about bringig the halyard back to the cockpit, also
about a furling system and lazy jacks. any suggestions,
recommendations, comments photos?

thanks


am


 

Our 1967 Tartan is set up with the main halyard run back along the top of the cabin on the starboard side. There is a level controlled block there, through bolted on the roof. That has worked really well for us.

The roller furling line runs aft on the port side through two stantion mounted eyes and a block to a cleat on the port toe rail. That has also worked great.

I installed a super cheap but serviceable set of home-made lazy jacks. Confusing to explain, but simple..I hope this is clear:

I just took a light line and tossed it over the spreader, stern to bow, on the port and then back again, bow to stern on the starboard. Each end of the line terminates in a small loop about 5 feet (rough guess) above the boom. On each side of the boom are two ss eyes about 5 feet apart (rough guess again). On each side a light line goes from forward eye, through the loop, back to the aft eye. Each end of that line connects to the boom's eyes with a simple plastic clip. It took a bit of trial and error to place the eyes where they work best. When not in use, we remove the two port clips from the boom and clip them to the port side of the base of the mast. Same for starboard. Total cost was under $15.? It has worked well for us for over 3 years...just a moment to move line from mast to boom before dropping sail. No flapping lines otherwise. Downside is that they don't come quite far enough aft....there is a bit of floppy sail aft after its dropped, but hardly any. A third line on each side is probably needed to make it perfect.?

I can take and post some pics of any of the above if anyone is curious.

Marty

Marty Levenson, ba, bcatr.
registered art therapist

604.736.1972
____________________________




On 27-Jun-07, at 10:47 AM, morell_21114 wrote:

I am thinking about bringig the halyard back to the cockpit, also
about a furling system and lazy jacks. any suggestions,
recommendations, comments photos?

thanks

am



tartan27plee
 

AM,

I have spoken to many sailing experters regarding this very topic, running the halyards aft. In
general most people I've asked did not recommend it for these two main reasons:

* You will have the better leverage pulling the line from directly under the mast. The more
blocks it passing through the harder it is to pull it tight.

* Once the main/jib is raised, you will have many feet of extra lines that will you will have to
find a place for.

I hope this helps, and I am curious to read other's opinions as well.

Paul


 

I tend to agree with tartan27plee on this issue. I see no reason to run the jib halyard back to the cockpit at all. Our jib is on a Furlex RF and we raise the jib once a season and take it down only once under normal circumstances. Of course the furler control line is routed back to the cockpit. The main halyard on our boat is routed back to a self tailing winch that the PO installed on the cabin roof (doghouse) just forward of the cockpit. This arrangement is fairly useful as we raise and lower the main at least once each time out. Raising the main still requires someone to go forward to the mast to get the best leverage and someone in the cockpit tailing the halyard as the sail goes up. Our PO (previous owner) also installed reefing lines in the main sail that are routed back to the cockpit which are useful if you do a lot of short handed or solo long distance cruising. We are not currently using the reefing line setup as they can make raising and lowering the main a bit more difficult.

-----Original Message-----
From: tartan27plee <tartan27plee@...>
To: T27Owners@...
Sent: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 2:49 pm
Subject: [T27Owners] Re: halyards back to cockpit







AM,

I have spoken to many sailing experters regarding this very topic, running the
halyards aft. In
general most people I've asked did not recommend it for these two main reasons:

* You will have the better leverage pulling the line from directly under the
mast. The more
blocks it passing through the harder it is to pull it tight.

* Once the main/jib is raised, you will have many feet of extra lines that will
you will have to
find a place for.

I hope this helps, and I am curious to read other's opinions as well.

Paul




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southsidemagician
 

Yes I'd like to see pictures.
Robbie Watts
Southern Horizon


--- In T27Owners@..., Marty Levenson <martylev@...> wrote:

Our 1967 Tartan is set up with the main halyard run back along the
top of the cabin on the starboard side. There is a level
controlled
block there, through bolted on the roof. That has worked really
well
for us.

The roller furling line runs aft on the port side through two
stantion mounted eyes and a block to a cleat on the port toe rail.
That has also worked great.

I installed a super cheap but serviceable set of home-made lazy
jacks. Confusing to explain, but simple..I hope this is clear:

I just took a light line and tossed it over the spreader, stern to
bow, on the port and then back again, bow to stern on the
starboard.
Each end of the line terminates in a small loop about 5 feet
(rough
guess) above the boom. On each side of the boom are two ss eyes
about
5 feet apart (rough guess again). On each side a light line goes
from
forward eye, through the loop, back to the aft eye. Each end of
that
line connects to the boom's eyes with a simple plastic clip. It
took
a bit of trial and error to place the eyes where they work best.
When
not in use, we remove the two port clips from the boom and clip
them
to the port side of the base of the mast. Same for starboard.
Total
cost was under $15. It has worked well for us for over 3
years...just a moment to move line from mast to boom before
dropping
sail. No flapping lines otherwise. Downside is that they don't
come
quite far enough aft....there is a bit of floppy sail aft after
its
dropped, but hardly any. A third line on each side is probably
needed
to make it perfect.

I can take and post some pics of any of the above if anyone is
curious.

Marty

Marty Levenson, ba, bcatr.
registered art therapist


604.736.1972
____________________________




On 27-Jun-07, at 10:47 AM, morell_21114 wrote:

I am thinking about bringig the halyard back to the cockpit, also
about a furling system and lazy jacks. any suggestions,
recommendations, comments photos?

thanks

am



 

We are going to the boat for a few days, so I should be able to take photos and post them next week.?

Marty





On 15-Jul-07, at 5:01 AM, southsidemagician wrote:

Yes I'd like to see pictures.
Robbie Watts
Southern Horizon

--- In T27Owners@yahoogroups.com, Marty Levenson .> wrote:
>
> Our 1967 Tartan is set up with the main halyard run back along the
> top of the cabin on the starboard side. There is a level
controlled
> block there, through bolted on the roof. That has worked really
well
> for us.
>
> The roller furling line runs aft on the port side through two
> stantion mounted eyes and a block to a cleat on the port toe rail.
> That has also worked great.
>
> I installed a super cheap but serviceable set of home-made lazy
> jacks. Confusing to explain, but simple..I hope this is clear:
>
> I just took a light line and tossed it over the spreader, stern to
> bow, on the port and then back again, bow to stern on the
starboard.
> Each end of the line terminates in a small loop about 5 feet
(rough
> guess) above the boom. On each side of the boom are two ss eyes
about
> 5 feet apart (rough guess again). On each side a light line goes
from
> forward eye, through the loop, back to the aft eye. Each end of
that
> line connects to the boom's eyes with a simple plastic clip. It
took
> a bit of trial and error to place the eyes where they work best.
When
> not in use, we remove the two port clips from the boom and clip
them
> to the port side of the base of the mast. Same for starboard.
Total
> cost was under $15. It has worked well for us for over 3
> years...just a moment to move line from mast to boom before
dropping
> sail. No flapping lines otherwise. Downside is that they don't
come
> quite far enough aft....there is a bit of floppy sail aft after
its
> dropped, but hardly any. A third line on each side is probably
needed
> to make it perfect.
>
> I can take and post some pics of any of the above if anyone is
curious.
>
> Marty
>
> Marty Levenson, ba, bcatr.
> registered art therapist
> rarttherapy.com
>
> 604.736.1972
> ____________________________
>
>
>
>
> On 27-Jun-07, at 10:47 AM, morell_21114 wrote:
>
> > I am thinking about bringig the halyard back to the cockpit, also
> > about a furling system and lazy jacks. any suggestions,
> > recommendations, comments photos?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > am
> >
> >
> >
>



 

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If you care to forward pics to me I'll see if I can put documentation together and post it to t-27.com.
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