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Fairport Marine?


 

Hi eveyone.

This boat that I'm looking at is a 1975 #577. It's listed as built by
Fairport Marine? Is that one of the Schock built boats? Any help?
thanks. Its' type II cockpit I've been asking about. You've all been
real helpful on that too... thanks
c


 

Chris,
That was Marino Curati's old boat from the tartan27owners.com website where he was a regular contributor. I am curious about WHY he is selling his boat? This can be an important question. If he is moving up in boat size then that is not an issue. If he is getting out of owning a boat for health or financial reasons then you might wonder if he was keeping up on the maintenance. Please ask the dealer this question. My recollection is that he was quite meticulous about his boat and even added a boom vang to the rigging of #577.
Under the Files section of T27Owners there is an information.htm file that shows hull #'s by year and a little note at the bottom indicates which hull #'s were built by WDSchock. They did not build very many as it turns out. The design of the boat is by Sparkman & Stephens but the boats were built by a few builders including Fairport. While there may be some differences in the boats from one builder to the next I think that they were all made quite sturdily by todays standards.
I would make a low ball offer of perhaps 75% of their asking price and see what happens. The worst that could happen is they don't accept your offer (or raise the asking price!). Most likely they will counter offer with say 90% of asking price. Your offer indicates that you are interested and if the seller is paying for 2 boats at once he may be motivated to get rid of the responsibility of the older boat.
Good luck with this and keep us posted.
Caleb
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-----Original Message-----
From: chrisd4700@...
To: T27Owners@...
Sent: Mon, 7 May 2007 12:01 PM
Subject: [T27Owners] Fairport Marine?

Hi eveyone.

This boat that I'm looking at is a 1975 #577. It's listed as built by
Fairport Marine? Is that one of the Schock built boats? Any help?
thanks. Its' type II cockpit I've been asking about. You've all been
real helpful on that too... thanks
c




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Hey Caleb,

I don't think Mario owns this boat anymore. The guy who is selling it
is named Reno. He's done some work to it and it look like it's in fine
shape. There is a boom vang on the boat, you have a good memory. I'll
ask him if it's Mario's old boat... I was just curious becuase the
earlier builder was Mcleod or something like that correct? Fairport
Marine never rang a bell and I don't want one of the Schock boats...
they moved the mast forward and did a couple other things that I'm not
crazy about.

Thanks for the input. Still searching for the right boat man..
c


 

Hey Caleb,

Check my last response. It is Marino that still own's the boat.
You know it? He said he used to check in all the time until the site
crashed... No health issues I think he just wants to sell her.

I'm trying to get up there to look at it.


 

Chris,
I do have a pretty good memory when I am sober and I remember Marino Curati from the old discussion threads at sailboatowners.com.? That is how I know he added a boom vang to his rig; he posted some nice pictures of it and was a regular no-nonsense contributor.? We are planning to add a boom vang this season that will be very much like his (we just need the boom bails to attached to the spars at this point).? I suspect that he was a pretty good sailor/racer and liked to have his boat's rigging in good working order.? I have never been on his boat though.
One consideration to think about is the condition of the sails.? If they are old-ish but still pretty sound (no loose stitching but not too stretched out) then that is fine for a while.? New sails for a T27 will cost a lot (about? $1500 a piece) so if the sails seem limp you might try the bargaining tactic of factoring the cost of new sails into the deal (eg., you would split the cost of the $3K it would take to replace sails off the price - that is a $1500 bargaining chip).
I never met Marino either but I liked his web personality.? He obviously has a dealer handling the sale for him as most people do.? I also remember that he did a lot of crewing in races on OPB (other peoples boats) as he did not want to break a lot of equipment on his T27 (which is not the swiftest of cruisers but usually does pretty well with its PHRF rating of around 240).? I still bet that this boat is in pretty good shape and worth a trip out to Cleveland to look it over carefully.
If the Atomic 4 is still in good shape you should jump on it.? It can be a great boat!
Caleb


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-----Original Message-----
From: chrisd4700@...
To: T27Owners@...
Sent: Tue, 8 May 2007 5:57 PM
Subject: [T27Owners] Re: Fairport Marine?

Hey Caleb,

Check my last response.  It is Marino that still own's the boat.
You know it?  He said he used to check in all the time until the site
crashed... No health issues I think he just wants to sell her.

I'm trying to get up there to look at it.



 
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You can find sails that will fit with minor modification.? If you need boom vang ideas let me know.? I had one installed and it's pretty straightforward if you disable the boom reefing.? It makes a nice difference.... even when you have the wrong sail. :)? I have an old (beat to hell), C-25 sail on my boat.? I haven't replaced it yet.... other things are more important.
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