Hello,

I'm shopping for new mainsails for this old Tartan 27!

Some medium weight suitable for our winds but not
necessarily cruising weight.

P: 30.50 ft, E: 13.50 ft, from sailboatdata.

Two reefing points.

5/8" external sliders (measured 0.67" wide on the track).
3/8" boltrope foot.

2" cutback on tack.

Let me know what you think.

Cheers,
-scott

Scott,
The loose footed full battened main sail I bought from Rolly Tasker
(thesailwarehouse.com). I seem to recall that it cost me about $1800
- that must be almost 10 years ago though.
The loose footed aspect of the sail really improved our ability to
shape the sail since we really had to make our outhaul work to flatten
the sail. Loose footed = No bolt rope.
The new main allowed us to actually sometimes finish our races in 1st
place when we were normally the back of the pack with the old blown out
main.
Caleb D
T27 #328
-----Original Message-----
From: aksjghkajshd <scott@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, Jun 14, 2021 9:51 pm
Subject: [T27Owners] estimate, Tartan 27 mainsail
Hello,
I'm shopping for new mainsails for this old Tartan 27!
Some medium weight suitable for our winds but not
necessarily cruising weight.
P: 30.50 ft, E: 13.50 ft, from sailboatdata.
Two reefing points.
5/8" external sliders (measured 0.67" wide on the track).
3/8" boltrope foot.
2" cutback on tack.
Let me know what you think.
Cheers,
-scott

On Jun 15, 2021, at 6:38 PM, aksjghkajshd <scott@...> wrote:

?Appreciate the suggestion. I took second once in light airs where other
boats didn't know to slack outhaul for a more full draft and ironically their
non-blown-out sails were working against them.

thesailwarehouse.com had a couple of T-27 sails I was eyeing just a year
ago but had other projects ahead in the queue. Congrats to whoever
landed those.

Hogan made the sails she came with and I emailed them yesterday and a
few other places the last week. I'll report back with whatever I do.

Maybe I'll order a kit and lock myself in the attic all winter hand
stitching it with silk thread while mumbling to myself.

I'll put in a quote request since they don't have anything in stock.
A couple of quotes would be nice.

-scott
#93

On 0, "Caleb Davison via groups.io" <calebjess@...> wrote:
Scott,
The loose footed full battened main sail I bought from Rolly Tasker
(thesailwarehouse.com). I seem to recall that it cost me about $1800
- that must be almost 10 years ago though.
The loose footed aspect of the sail really improved our ability to
shape the sail since we really had to make our outhaul work to flatten
the sail. Loose footed = No bolt rope.
The new main allowed us to actually sometimes finish our races in 1st
place when we were normally the back of the pack with the old blown out
main.
Caleb D
T27 #328
-----Original Message-----
From: aksjghkajshd <scott@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, Jun 14, 2021 9:51 pm
Subject: [T27Owners] estimate, Tartan 27 mainsail
Hello,
I'm shopping for new mainsails for this old Tartan 27!
Some medium weight suitable for our winds but not
necessarily cruising weight.
P: 30.50 ft, E: 13.50 ft, from sailboatdata.
Two reefing points.
5/8" external sliders (measured 0.67" wide on the track).
3/8" boltrope foot.
2" cutback on tack.
Let me know what you think.
Cheers,
-scott

Hello All,

I blew out my mainsail yesterday. The sails were old but it was still shocking to see the threads and the sail in two tattered pieces. I was gusting up pretty good right when I was raising it up. I thought I might have caught a batten in lazy jack lines but it didn’t split until I was back at the tiller.

The lazy jack line was let all the way out but I always found the battens catching on it. I prompted cut the lazy jack lines and tied the cables around the rigging. I never really felt they were that useful and I don’t want that to happen to the next sail. I don’t know??

Anyway I am in the market for a mainsail as well. My wife said she would like a blue or red mainsail. I have never purchased a sail so I have no idea what I am getting into here.

I went online and there are several sail makers out there. Most seem to want to quote without a price online. I saw a price from Southeastasiasails.com for $1088…didn’t know if anyone had experience with their sails.

Any suggestions or comments would be very appreciated.

PS. After dropping the main we raised the 176% Genoa and sailed along pretty good for several hours at hull speed. Fun time!!

Thanks Glenn Pearson
Isla Bleu hull 688

On Jun 15, 2021, at 6:38 PM, aksjghkajshd <scott@...> wrote:

?Appreciate the suggestion. I took second once in light airs where other
boats didn't know to slack outhaul for a more full draft and ironically their
non-blown-out sails were working against them.

thesailwarehouse.com had a couple of T-27 sails I was eyeing just a year
ago but had other projects ahead in the queue. Congrats to whoever
landed those.

Hogan made the sails she came with and I emailed them yesterday and a
few other places the last week. I'll report back with whatever I do.

Maybe I'll order a kit and lock myself in the attic all winter hand
stitching it with silk thread while mumbling to myself.

I'll put in a quote request since they don't have anything in stock.
A couple of quotes would be nice.

-scott
#93

On 0, "Caleb Davison via groups.io" <calebjess@...> wrote:
Scott,
The loose footed full battened main sail I bought from Rolly Tasker
(thesailwarehouse.com). I seem to recall that it cost me about $1800
- that must be almost 10 years ago though.
The loose footed aspect of the sail really improved our ability to
shape the sail since we really had to make our outhaul work to flatten
the sail. Loose footed = No bolt rope.
The new main allowed us to actually sometimes finish our races in 1st
place when we were normally the back of the pack with the old blown out
main.
Caleb D
T27 #328
-----Original Message-----
From: aksjghkajshd <scott@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, Jun 14, 2021 9:51 pm
Subject: [T27Owners] estimate, Tartan 27 mainsail
Hello,
I'm shopping for new mainsails for this old Tartan 27!
Some medium weight suitable for our winds but not
necessarily cruising weight.
P: 30.50 ft, E: 13.50 ft, from sailboatdata.
Two reefing points.
5/8" external sliders (measured 0.67" wide on the track).
3/8" boltrope foot.
2" cutback on tack.
Let me know what you think.
Cheers,
-scott

On Jul 12, 2021, at 12:35 PM, Brent Bass <BJBass@...> wrote:

?

Here is my invoice for my main from Precision Sails in Vancouver from summer 2017. I love the sail. They send a form with specific instructions for key measurements, which I completed, and they sent the completed sail and it fit like a glove. It was less than $1,700 delivered and would fully recommend them/order from them again. I believe the fabric I got, in their current terms, is the tri-radial dacron.

<2017 Sail Order.jpg>

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 11:22 AM aksjghkajshd <scott@...> wrote:

#93 came with heavy cruising duty sails by Hogan Sails of Alameda.
I asked for an estimate recently from then again and given
$2295 for the mainsail.? I don't know what weight of dacron
it is but it looks like it's twice as heavy as the 7oz dacron
70% jib I tore in half last week.

Had a confusing exchange with Rolly Tasker.? I measured foot
and luff of the boat, not the sail, and came up with almost
exactly official numbers, which exactly match the sails that
they had in inventory for the T27, but wouldn't accept that,
instead demanding that I measure the sail itself, which
is stretched to the point where I can't outhaul it any more
and the gooseneck is all of the way down.? I couldn't get
clarification from them on whether if I gave them stretched
sail measurements, if they leave room for uphaul and downhaul.
So leaning towards paying more.? Mailed a dozen outfits in
the SF Bay Area and only Pinneaple and Hogan responded and
Pinneaple, despite running ads in all of the local rags,
just responded that they're busy right now.

So I guess tl;dr Hogan is an option and they make sturdy
sails.

-scott

On? 0, "Glenn Pearson via " <Bigisland27=[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I blew out my mainsail yesterday.? The sails were old but it was still shocking to see the threads and the sail in two tattered pieces.? I was gusting up pretty good right when I was raising it up.? I thought I might have caught a batten in lazy jack lines but it didn’t split until I was back at the tiller.
>
> The lazy jack line was let all the way out but I always found the battens catching on it.? I prompted cut the lazy jack lines and tied the cables around the rigging.? I never really felt they were that useful and I don’t want that to happen to the next sail.? I don’t know??
>
> Anyway I am in the market for a mainsail as well.? My wife said she would like a blue or red mainsail.? I have never purchased a sail so I have no idea what I am getting into here.
>
> I went online and there are several sail makers out there.? Most seem to want to quote without a price online.? I saw a price from Southeastasiasails.com for $1088…didn’t know if anyone had experience with their sails.
>
> Any suggestions or comments would be very appreciated.
>
> PS.? After dropping the main we raised the 176% Genoa and sailed along pretty good for several hours at hull speed.? Fun time!!
>
> Thanks Glenn Pearson
> Isla Bleu hull 688
> > On Jun 15, 2021, at 6:38 PM, aksjghkajshd <scott@...> wrote:
> >
> > ?Appreciate the suggestion.? I took second once in light airs where other
> > boats didn't know to slack outhaul for a more full draft and ironically their
> > non-blown-out sails were working against them.
> >
> > had a couple of T-27 sails I was eyeing just a year
> > ago but had other projects ahead in the queue.? Congrats to whoever
> > landed those.
> >
> > Hogan made the sails she came with and I emailed them yesterday and a
> > few other places the last week.? I'll report back with whatever I do.
> >
> > Maybe I'll order a kit and lock myself in the attic all winter hand
> > stitching it with silk thread while mumbling to myself.
> >
> > I'll put in a quote request since they don't have anything in stock.
> > A couple of quotes would be nice.
> >
> > -scott
> > #93
> >
> >> On? 0, "Caleb Davison via " <calebjess=[email protected]> wrote:
> >>? ?Scott,
> >>? ?The? loose footed full battened main sail I bought from Rolly Tasker
> >>? ?().? ?I seem to recall that it cost me about $1800
> >>? ?- that must be almost 10 years ago though.
> >>? ?The loose footed aspect of the sail really improved our ability to
> >>? ?shape the sail since we really had to make our outhaul work to flatten
> >>? ?the sail.? Loose footed = No bolt rope.
> >>? ?The new main allowed us to actually sometimes finish our races in 1st
> >>? ?place when we were normally the back of the pack with the old blown out
> >>? ?main.
> >>? ?Caleb D
> >>? ?T27 #328
> >>? ?-----Original Message-----
> >>? ?From: aksjghkajshd <scott@...>
> >>? ?To: [email protected]
> >>? ?Sent: Mon, Jun 14, 2021 9:51 pm
> >>? ?Subject: [T27Owners] estimate, Tartan 27 mainsail
> >>? ?Hello,
> >>? ?I'm shopping for new mainsails for this old Tartan 27!
> >>? ?Some medium weight suitable for our winds but not
> >>? ?necessarily cruising weight.
> >>? ?P: 30.50 ft, E: 13.50 ft, from sailboatdata.
> >>? ?Two reefing points.
> >>? ?5/8" external sliders (measured 0.67" wide on the track).
> >>? ?3/8" boltrope foot.
> >>? ?2" cutback on tack.
> >>? ?Let me know what you think.
> >>? ?Cheers,
> >>? ?-scott
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

>
>
>

On Jul 12, 2021, at 10:22 AM, aksjghkajshd <scott@...> wrote:

?#93 came with heavy cruising duty sails by Hogan Sails of Alameda.
I asked for an estimate recently from then again and given
$2295 for the mainsail. I don't know what weight of dacron
it is but it looks like it's twice as heavy as the 7oz dacron
70% jib I tore in half last week.

Had a confusing exchange with Rolly Tasker. I measured foot
and luff of the boat, not the sail, and came up with almost
exactly official numbers, which exactly match the sails that
they had in inventory for the T27, but wouldn't accept that,
instead demanding that I measure the sail itself, which
is stretched to the point where I can't outhaul it any more
and the gooseneck is all of the way down. I couldn't get
clarification from them on whether if I gave them stretched
sail measurements, if they leave room for uphaul and downhaul.
So leaning towards paying more. Mailed a dozen outfits in
the SF Bay Area and only Pinneaple and Hogan responded and
Pinneaple, despite running ads in all of the local rags,
just responded that they're busy right now.

So I guess tl;dr Hogan is an option and they make sturdy
sails.

-scott

On 0, "Glenn Pearson via groups.io" <Bigisland27@...> wrote:
Hello All,

I blew out my mainsail yesterday. The sails were old but it was still shocking to see the threads and the sail in two tattered pieces. I was gusting up pretty good right when I was raising it up. I thought I might have caught a batten in lazy jack lines but it didn’t split until I was back at the tiller.

The lazy jack line was let all the way out but I always found the battens catching on it. I prompted cut the lazy jack lines and tied the cables around the rigging. I never really felt they were that useful and I don’t want that to happen to the next sail. I don’t know??

Anyway I am in the market for a mainsail as well. My wife said she would like a blue or red mainsail. I have never purchased a sail so I have no idea what I am getting into here.

I went online and there are several sail makers out there. Most seem to want to quote without a price online. I saw a price from Southeastasiasails.com for $1088…didn’t know if anyone had experience with their sails.

Any suggestions or comments would be very appreciated.

PS. After dropping the main we raised the 176% Genoa and sailed along pretty good for several hours at hull speed. Fun time!!

Thanks Glenn Pearson
Isla Bleu hull 688

On Jun 15, 2021, at 6:38 PM, aksjghkajshd <scott@...> wrote:

?Appreciate the suggestion. I took second once in light airs where other
boats didn't know to slack outhaul for a more full draft and ironically their
non-blown-out sails were working against them.

thesailwarehouse.com had a couple of T-27 sails I was eyeing just a year
ago but had other projects ahead in the queue. Congrats to whoever
landed those.

Hogan made the sails she came with and I emailed them yesterday and a
few other places the last week. I'll report back with whatever I do.

Maybe I'll order a kit and lock myself in the attic all winter hand
stitching it with silk thread while mumbling to myself.

I'll put in a quote request since they don't have anything in stock.
A couple of quotes would be nice.

-scott
#93

On 0, "Caleb Davison via groups.io" <calebjess@...> wrote:
Scott,
The loose footed full battened main sail I bought from Rolly Tasker
(thesailwarehouse.com). I seem to recall that it cost me about $1800
- that must be almost 10 years ago though.
The loose footed aspect of the sail really improved our ability to
shape the sail since we really had to make our outhaul work to flatten
the sail. Loose footed = No bolt rope.
The new main allowed us to actually sometimes finish our races in 1st
place when we were normally the back of the pack with the old blown out
main.
Caleb D
T27 #328
-----Original Message-----
From: aksjghkajshd <scott@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, Jun 14, 2021 9:51 pm
Subject: [T27Owners] estimate, Tartan 27 mainsail
Hello,
I'm shopping for new mainsails for this old Tartan 27!
Some medium weight suitable for our winds but not
necessarily cruising weight.
P: 30.50 ft, E: 13.50 ft, from sailboatdata.
Two reefing points.
5/8" external sliders (measured 0.67" wide on the track).
3/8" boltrope foot.
2" cutback on tack.
Let me know what you think.
Cheers,
-scott