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Window repair


 

Hi,

I'm getting some water leakage through one of the windows on my '76 Tartan 27. I'm planning to re-seat it and assume I'll find a crusty old seal or gasket under the frame. Any advice for replacing this?

Thanks
Will


 

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We did that 10 years ago. Went to lexan, I think as they were super crazed. Tip: we found kerosene was the solvent that dissolved the (still liquid!) factory sealant.?


Marty

Marty Levenson
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On Oct 9, 2018, at 1:13 PM, William Ryan williamdryan@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:

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Hi,

I'm getting some water leakage through one of the windows on my '76 Tartan 27. I'm planning to re-seat it and assume I'll find a crusty old seal or gasket under the frame. Any advice for replacing this?

Thanks
Will


 

And that goopy sealant that is (still liquid) is a form of Butyl - it never hardens.

It makes a wonderful sealant for whatever window material you choose.





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From: Marty Levenson martylev@... [T27Owners]
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Sent: Tue, Oct 9, 2018 4:25 pm
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Window repair



We did that 10 years ago. Went to lexan, I think as they were super crazed. Tip: we found kerosene was the solvent that dissolved the (still liquid!) factory sealant.?


Marty

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On Oct 9, 2018, at 1:13 PM, William Ryan williamdryan@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:

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Hi,

I'm getting some water leakage through one of the windows on my '76 Tartan 27. I'm planning to re-seat it and assume I'll find a crusty old seal or gasket under the frame. Any advice for replacing this?

Thanks
Will



 

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For those not familiar with it, ‘butyl’ as used here isn’t (to my knowledge, anyway) something that comes in a tube. ?Rather, it’s a tape that comes on a roll. ? ?I’ve used a couple of different kinds but the best I’ve used comes from Compass Marine/MaineSail. ? BTW the Compass Marine/MaineSail site is a phenomenal resource for how to do a lot of things, the right way. ? Warren Stein

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On Oct 9, 2018, at 4:32 PM, calebjess@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:

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And that goopy sealant that is (still liquid) is a form of Butyl - it never hardens.

It makes a wonderful sealant for whatever window material you choose.





-----Original Message-----
From: Marty Levenson martylev@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...>
To: T27Owners <T27Owners@...>
Sent: Tue, Oct 9, 2018 4:25 pm
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Window repair



We did that 10 years ago. Went to lexan, I think as they were super crazed. Tip: we found kerosene was the solvent that dissolved the (still liquid!) factory sealant.?


Marty

Marty Levenson
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? sent by carrier pigeon ?

On Oct 9, 2018, at 1:13 PM, William Ryan williamdryan@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:

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Hi,

I'm getting some water leakage through one of the windows on my '76 Tartan 27. I'm planning to re-seat it and assume I'll find a crusty old seal or gasket under the frame. Any advice for replacing this?

Thanks
Will



 

I have a 1965 T 27 hull #130 and there were no gaskets. I rebeded mine with butel tape. I unassembled the portal; outside aluminum extrusion, inside extrusion, barrel nuts and lense. I put the outside extrusion on my picnic table to work and filled the boatside of the aluminum with putty from the butel tape with the outside portion of the barrel nuts in place bedding around them. Hung the lenses in place with masking tape on the inside of the boat. Put the outside extrusion in place with the barrel nuts going through the holes around the opening. Put the inside extrusion on the inside with the other side of the barrel nuts meeting their counter parts on the outside and tightened them all going around a few times to make sure of evenness. I removed the tape leaving the unseen little bit under the inside extrusion. Two years; no leaks. If you use something like black G/E silicone from a tube which is fine if not better, leave a half turn on the barrel nuts to be tightened after cure for a good seal. You don't do that with the butel ( bad spelling I know ) tape because it doesn't cure. It stays soft. Hope this helped.

Rick Gengarelly

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 4:19 PM William Ryan williamdryan@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:
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Hi,

I'm getting some water leakage through one of the windows on my '76 Tartan 27. I'm planning to re-seat it and assume I'll find a crusty old seal or gasket under the frame. Any advice for replacing this?

Thanks
Will


 

And here is the link to the website Warren mentioned:
https://shop.marinehowto.com/t/bed-it-tape

Every boater should have a look at the projects shown there.

Caleb
T27 #328



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From: Wrsteinesq wrsteinesq@... [T27Owners]
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Sent: Tue, Oct 9, 2018 4:46 pm
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Window repair



For those not familiar with it, ‘butyl’ as used here isn’t (to my knowledge, anyway) something that comes in a tube. ?Rather, it’s a tape that comes on a roll. ? ?I’ve used a couple of different kinds but the best I’ve used comes from Compass Marine/MaineSail. ? BTW the Compass Marine/MaineSail site is a phenomenal resource for how to do a lot of things, the right way. ? Warren Stein

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On Oct 9, 2018, at 4:32 PM, calebjess@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:

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And that goopy sealant that is (still liquid) is a form of Butyl - it never hardens.

It makes a wonderful sealant for whatever window material you choose.





-----Original Message-----
From: Marty Levenson martylev@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...>
To: T27Owners <T27Owners@...>
Sent: Tue, Oct 9, 2018 4:25 pm
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Window repair



We did that 10 years ago. Went to lexan, I think as they were super crazed. Tip: we found kerosene was the solvent that dissolved the (still liquid!) factory sealant.?


Marty

Marty Levenson
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? sent by carrier pigeon ?

On Oct 9, 2018, at 1:13 PM, William Ryan williamdryan@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:

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Hi,

I'm getting some water leakage through one of the windows on my '76 Tartan 27. I'm planning to re-seat it and assume I'll find a crusty old seal or gasket under the frame. Any advice for replacing this?

Thanks
Will





 

Used a 1/4" stone grinding wheel to clean the corrosion out of the inside
of the aluminum =|

Can't find in my notes the size of the window glazing (rubber between
the glass/plastic and aluminum frame). Old stuff has hard, brittle,
and the channel full of algae.

Bytul rubber.

Being away has forced me to work on other projects.

-s

On 0, "rick Gengarelly rickg1952@... [T27Owners]" <T27Owners@...> wrote:


I have a 1965 T 27 hull #130 and there were no gaskets. I rebeded mine
with butel tape. I unassembled the portal; outside aluminum extrusion,
inside extrusion, barrel nuts and lense. I put the outside extrusion on my
picnic table to work and filled the boatside of the aluminum with putty
from the butel tape with the outside portion of the barrel nuts in place
bedding around them. Hung the lenses in place with masking tape on the
inside of the boat. Put the outside extrusion in place with the barrel
nuts going through the holes around the opening. Put the inside extrusion
on the inside with the other side of the barrel nuts meeting their counter
parts on the outside and tightened them all going around a few times to
make sure of evenness. I removed the tape leaving the unseen little bit
under the inside extrusion. Two years; no leaks. If you use something like
black G/E silicone from a tube which is fine if not better, leave a half
turn on the barrel nuts to be tightened after cure for a good seal. You
don't do that with the butel ( bad spelling I know ) tape because it
doesn't cure. It stays soft. Hope this helped.
Rick Gengarelly
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 4:19 PM William Ryan [1]williamdryan@...
[T27Owners] <[2]T27Owners@...> wrote:

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Hi,
I'm getting some water leakage through one of the windows on my '76
Tartan 27. I'm planning to re-seat it and assume I'll find a crusty old
seal or gasket under the frame. Any advice for replacing this?
Thanks
Will



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Butyl tape/puddy.?

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On Oct 9, 2018, at 3:19 PM, William Ryan williamdryan@... [T27Owners] <T27Owners@...> wrote:

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Hi,

I'm getting some water leakage through one of the windows on my '76 Tartan 27. I'm planning to re-seat it and assume I'll find a crusty old seal or gasket under the frame. Any advice for replacing this?

Thanks
Will


 

I think the switch? on the 27-2 to windows that open was a huge improvement. I don't know if the holes are the same size.

Monica Malone
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-----Original Message-----
From: William Ryan williamdryan@... [T27Owners]
To: T27Owners
Sent: Tue, Oct 9, 2018 4:19 pm
Subject: [T27Owners] Window repair

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Hi,

I'm getting some water leakage through one of the windows on my '76 Tartan 27. I'm planning to re-seat it and assume I'll find a crusty old seal or gasket under the frame. Any advice for replacing this?

Thanks
Will


 

The only thing I have to add is a light countersink in the holes will help the Butyl tape do its job.? The DYI info from compass covers everything very well.