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New style rudder/tiller needed


 

OK folks,
In order to get my son & I on the water this summer, I'm about to
bite the bullet and purchase the upgrade kit to get the correct
rudder & tiller that I need. Does ANYONE know of a used set for
sale? I passed on the eBay (near new)one when it went to $207, not
including the tiller extension, but in retrospect it was not a bad
deal I suppose. The geocities guy wants $248 for a "reconditioned"
set, while the new upgrade kit will cost me $330. Although it's more
than half of what I paid for the entire boat & trailer, at least it
will be brand spanking new. Any advice out there?

I just can't force myself to sail with the jury-rigged incorrect
rudder that the last owner used. Not only is it a loosy-goosy set
up, it also has to be locked down at all times, making damage to boat
or rudder more likely.

Help!
John C :p(


 

I'm going to need the same thing as you pretty soon, John. Sorry I
can't help...

But in a related question, does anybody know where to find a template
to cut your own rudder board and keel board? The bolts, fixtures,
and brackets I'll have to buy, but I'm eager to make my own boards
until I can scrape together the cash to buy them.

Thanks!

-Mike

--- In sunfish_sailor@..., "John C" <jkcjohn@h...> wrote:
OK folks,
In order to get my son & I on the water this summer, I'm about to
bite the bullet and purchase the upgrade kit to get the correct
rudder & tiller that I need. Does ANYONE know of a used set for
sale? I passed on the eBay (near new)one when it went to $207, not
including the tiller extension, but in retrospect it was not a bad
deal I suppose. The geocities guy wants $248 for a "reconditioned"
set, while the new upgrade kit will cost me $330. Although it's
more
than half of what I paid for the entire boat & trailer, at least it
will be brand spanking new. Any advice out there?

I just can't force myself to sail with the jury-rigged incorrect
rudder that the last owner used. Not only is it a loosy-goosy set
up, it also has to be locked down at all times, making damage to
boat
or rudder more likely.

Help!
John C :p(


Wayne Carney
 

Hi John,

I don't blame you for not wanting to set sail with your current rig.

I gather you didn't find any used parts available on the Sunfish Bulletin
Board?


GOOD NEWS - I just took another look at your photos. It appears that you do
not need to do anything to your boat. It is already equipped with the "new
style" gudgeon bracket.

BAD NEWS - Coincidentally I was on the phone with a Sunfish supplier when
your email came through, so I asked about the best solution. Oddly enough,
they concur it's less expensive to buy a complete conversion kit - which
includes the tiller (P/N 79072 $330) than it is to purchase the Rudder
assembly (P/N 66620 $204) and Tiller (P/N 66647 $142) separately. (Blah)


For what it's worth..... If you remove the "adaptor", you should get at
least $100 for your old rudder setup on the bulletin board or ebay. (maybe
more if you refinish the wood)


Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: John C [mailto:jkcjohn@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:15 AM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] New style rudder/tiller needed


OK folks,
In order to get my son & I on the water this summer, I'm about to
bite the bullet and purchase the upgrade kit to get the correct
rudder & tiller that I need. Does ANYONE know of a used set for
sale? I passed on the eBay (near new)one when it went to $207, not
including the tiller extension, but in retrospect it was not a bad
deal I suppose. The geocities guy wants $248 for a "reconditioned"
set, while the new upgrade kit will cost me $330. Although it's more
than half of what I paid for the entire boat & trailer, at least it
will be brand spanking new. Any advice out there?

I just can't force myself to sail with the jury-rigged incorrect
rudder that the last owner used. Not only is it a loosy-goosy set
up, it also has to be locked down at all times, making damage to boat
or rudder more likely.

Help!
John C :p(


 

Thanks for the advice Wayne.
This was my conclusion as well. Question is...do I hold out for someone with a spare assembly, buy the new cheek and rig the old rudder and tiller to work with it (rather not), or mortgage the boat for a new rudder & tiller "conversion" kit? :~/
I'm gonna hold out a few more days.

Gotta get my 9 year old on the water before he turns into a Disney Channel zombie.

John

From: "Wayne Carney" <wcarney@...>
Reply-To: sunfish_sailor@...
To: <sunfish_sailor@...>
Subject: RE: [sunfish_sailor] New style rudder/tiller needed
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:48:03 -0600

Hi John,

I don't blame you for not wanting to set sail with your current rig.

I gather you didn't find any used parts available on the Sunfish Bulletin
Board?


GOOD NEWS - I just took another look at your photos. It appears that you do
not need to do anything to your boat. It is already equipped with the "new
style" gudgeon bracket.

BAD NEWS - Coincidentally I was on the phone with a Sunfish supplier when
your email came through, so I asked about the best solution. Oddly enough,
they concur it's less expensive to buy a complete conversion kit - which
includes the tiller (P/N 79072 $330) than it is to purchase the Rudder
assembly (P/N 66620 $204) and Tiller (P/N 66647 $142) separately. (Blah)


For what it's worth..... If you remove the "adaptor", you should get at
least $100 for your old rudder setup on the bulletin board or ebay. (maybe
more if you refinish the wood)


Wayne




-----Original Message-----
From: John C [mailto:jkcjohn@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:15 AM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] New style rudder/tiller needed


OK folks,
In order to get my son & I on the water this summer, I'm about to
bite the bullet and purchase the upgrade kit to get the correct
rudder & tiller that I need. Does ANYONE know of a used set for
sale? I passed on the eBay (near new)one when it went to $207, not
including the tiller extension, but in retrospect it was not a bad
deal I suppose. The geocities guy wants $248 for a "reconditioned"
set, while the new upgrade kit will cost me $330. Although it's more
than half of what I paid for the entire boat & trailer, at least it
will be brand spanking new. Any advice out there?

I just can't force myself to sail with the jury-rigged incorrect
rudder that the last owner used. Not only is it a loosy-goosy set
up, it also has to be locked down at all times, making damage to boat
or rudder more likely.

Help!
John C :p(







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Wayne Carney
 

John,


Question is...do I hold out for someone with a
spare assembly, buy the new cheek and rig the
old rudder and tiller to work with it (rather not),
or mortgage the boat for a new rudder & tiller
"conversion" kit? :~/
I'm gonna hold out a few more days.
It's been pointed out in this group that _I_ am a born tinkerer so I would
lean toward the new Cheek old rudder solution. But, that's me.... ;^) I
also know what a pain all that can be.



Gotta get my 9 year old on the water before
he turns into a Disney Channel zombie.
Whew - can't let that happen.


Here's a couple of more places to look through.......










Wayne


mikey m
 

When I rigged my used sunfish. I needed a tiller and tiller extension.. I used a Post hole digger handle and had a friend cut it down to 3/4 of an inch.. about 13.00 $ i bought a universal from the sunfish dealer and used an aluminun handle with grip and connected the 2 pieces together. Total cost less than 40 dollars...

Wayne Carney <wcarney@...> wrote:Hi John,

I don't blame you for not wanting to set sail with your current rig.

I gather you didn't find any used parts available on the Sunfish Bulletin
Board?


GOOD NEWS - I just took another look at your photos. It appears that you do
not need to do anything to your boat. It is already equipped with the "new
style" gudgeon bracket.

BAD NEWS - Coincidentally I was on the phone with a Sunfish supplier when
your email came through, so I asked about the best solution. Oddly enough,
they concur it's less expensive to buy a complete conversion kit - which
includes the tiller (P/N 79072 $330) than it is to purchase the Rudder
assembly (P/N 66620 $204) and Tiller (P/N 66647 $142) separately. (Blah)


For what it's worth..... If you remove the "adaptor", you should get at
least $100 for your old rudder setup on the bulletin board or ebay. (maybe
more if you refinish the wood)


Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: John C [mailto:jkcjohn@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:15 AM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: [sunfish_sailor] New style rudder/tiller needed


OK folks,
In order to get my son & I on the water this summer, I'm about to
bite the bullet and purchase the upgrade kit to get the correct
rudder & tiller that I need. Does ANYONE know of a used set for
sale? I passed on the eBay (near new)one when it went to $207, not
including the tiller extension, but in retrospect it was not a bad
deal I suppose. The geocities guy wants $248 for a "reconditioned"
set, while the new upgrade kit will cost me $330. Although it's more
than half of what I paid for the entire boat & trailer, at least it
will be brand spanking new. Any advice out there?

I just can't force myself to sail with the jury-rigged incorrect
rudder that the last owner used. Not only is it a loosy-goosy set
up, it also has to be locked down at all times, making damage to boat
or rudder more likely.

Help!
John C :p(






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Wayne Carney
 

Other tiller materials can be:

Hockey sticks, Canoe paddles, Axe handles....

Be very careful choosing aluminum tubing and metal golf club shafts for a
tiller extension. There have been cases where some of these materials have
broken in a capsize and become razor sharp spears.

-----Original Message-----
From: mikey m [mailto:kamisbadboy@...]
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 12:18 PM
To: sunfish_sailor@...
Subject: RE: [sunfish_sailor] New style rudder/tiller needed


When I rigged my used sunfish. I needed a tiller and tiller
extension.. I used a Post hole digger handle and had a friend cut
it down to 3/4 of an inch.. about 13.00 $ i bought a universal
from the sunfish dealer and used an aluminun handle with grip and
connected the 2 pieces together. Total cost less than 40 dollars...