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Thanks Mike, ? I once hauled a Penguin out to the Chesapeake Bay, from Chicago, for the international championships with a pickup truck. Two carpeted two by fours, held on by C clamps, did the trick. Very easy on the boat. ? Car topping, which was a standard in Sunfish back when I was first racing them in the 60s and 70s, has fallen out of favor. However, it's really easy on the boat, compared to bouncing around on a trailer, even upside down, and if you live anywhere that you have to endure tolls it is quite cost-effective. ? Here's a comprehensive story I wrote, on the subject, for the Sunfish class magazine in 2018: ? Happy days, ? Mark ? 
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael King Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 8:21 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [SunfishSailor] TRICK PHOTOGRAPHY: Hiking Strap Retrofit ? Great job storing for transport on that little car.? With a dock in my back yard I am so fortunate.? Can be on the water in 15 minures.? I made a rack for the bed of my pickup when I do transport, but that is not very often. ? Mr Mlke ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? ? 
? Hello sports fans, ? After sharing the photos of my mount for the ratchet block (with the matching I strap underneath the deck for the forward mount of the hiking strap) I was contacted and asked how I mounted the aft end of the strap. Please find photos attached. And I appreciate the compliments regarding the photos. Since my boat is hanging upside down I had to stand on my head to take these :-) — a great way to store and transport your boat. ? Although the hardware is fairly generic if you want a turnkey updates, to make your boat race ready (outhauls, hiking strap, racing board, etc.), one shortcut is to find a qualified dealer that has gone through all this before. I've worked with The Dinghy Shop, on Long Island, and they've been happy to ship out here to flyover country (Wisconsin): . The outfit is run by a father and daughter team. Both of them are highly-competent and longtime competitors in the Sunfish class (and have made many other contributions to the organization as volunteers). So you get a lot of knowledge along with the equipment. ? Go sailing if you feel comfortable doing so! Day sailing alone is certainly safe. With a few minor modifications, being outside, the risks in raising are extremely low and the rewards high. ? Best regards, ? Mark ? PS: Racing rules for our Laser Fleet that we tested out last week: LaX Laser Fleet pandemic rules: Here are the ground rules we are starting with (and we will probably be a little more generous on the starting line and at mark groundings---thinking about maintaining social distancing and not being directly upwind of our favorite competitors). If anyone has constructive ideas to add please let me know:
Here are the ground rules going forward. Based on our experience they might very well be modified for future evenings:
1. Please take your temperature before coming down to the club. You can be contagious with the coronavirus before you show any overt symptoms. So please, before participating, error on the side of caution if you have any vague symptoms or doubts about your health (loss of taste/smell, fever, respiratory symptoms, swollen feet, etc.).
2. Masks are mandatory on and off the water. I have a "neck gator" on order and that might be the best option. If the mask is uncomfortable, and you are well away from anyone, you can take responsibility for taking a brief break-but that runs the risk of forgetting to put it back on so, just like a PFD, it's better to just wear one.
3. Unless the wind is light, and it is warm, we will all wear a PFD, shore to shore.
4. Before and after handling the lock and gate, or helping one of your fellow competitors lift the boat off of their vehicle (appropriately distanced at 14 feet-the length of a Laser?:-)?please wash your hands or use a disinfectant wipe.
5. Soap and water is the most effective prevention so please consider bringing down some soap, in a travel dish. You can use your elbow to turn the water on.
6. We will be rigging at least 20 feet apart. So as we pull our boats out of line, rig, and launch please be aware of the location of other competitors and negotiate the transitions. ?
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Interesting article, thanks!? I have been cartopping my Minifish for a couple of years, and I'm able to load and unload it single-handed.? The Minifish hull only weighs 75 pounds,?which is why I sold my Sunfish and bought a Minifish.? I use a?Yakima?rack with a "BoatLoader" accessory, which is basically a bar that slides sideways out the end of the roof rack crossbar (photo at link below).? You lay the boat out beside the vehicle, pick up one end and put it on the BoatLoader, then pick up the other end and put it on the other roof rack crossbar, then slide the first end over onto the other roof rack crossbar.? You never need to lift more than half of the?boat's weight.? You could probably make something similar yourself, but I am impressed with the thoughtful design and high quality of the?Yakima?system.? It also works great for canoes.? I think a full-size Sunfish is probably too wide and heavy for this system.
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 12:05 PM Mark Kastel < kastel@...> wrote: Thanks Mike, ? I once hauled a Penguin out to the Chesapeake Bay, from Chicago, for the international championships with a pickup truck. Two carpeted two by fours, held on by C clamps, did the trick. Very easy on the boat. ? Car topping, which was a standard in Sunfish back when I was first racing them in the 60s and 70s, has fallen out of favor. However, it's really easy on the boat, compared to bouncing around on a trailer, even upside down, and if you live anywhere that you have to endure tolls it is quite cost-effective. ? Here's a comprehensive story I wrote, on the subject, for the Sunfish class magazine in 2018: ? Happy days, ? Mark ? 
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? ? Great job storing for transport on that little car.? With a dock in my back yard I am so fortunate.? Can be on the water in 15 minures.? I made a rack for the bed of my pickup when I do transport, but that is not very often. ? Mr Mlke ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? ? 
? Hello sports fans, ? After sharing the photos of my mount for the ratchet block (with the matching I strap underneath the deck for the forward mount of the hiking strap) I was contacted and asked how I mounted the aft end of the strap. Please find photos attached. And I appreciate the compliments regarding the photos. Since my boat is hanging upside down I had to stand on my head to take these :-) — a great way to store and transport your boat. ? Although the hardware is fairly generic if you want a turnkey updates, to make your boat race ready (outhauls, hiking strap, racing board, etc.), one shortcut is to find a qualified dealer that has gone through all this before. I've worked with The Dinghy Shop, on Long Island, and they've been happy to ship out here to flyover country (Wisconsin): . The outfit is run by a father and daughter team. Both of them are highly-competent and longtime competitors in the Sunfish class (and have made many other contributions to the organization as volunteers). So you get a lot of knowledge along with the equipment. ? Go sailing if you feel comfortable doing so! Day sailing alone is certainly safe. With a few minor modifications, being outside, the risks in raising are extremely low and the rewards high. ? Best regards, ? Mark ? PS: Racing rules for our Laser Fleet that we tested out last week: LaX Laser Fleet pandemic rules: Here are the ground rules we are starting with (and we will probably be a little more generous on the starting line and at mark groundings---thinking about maintaining social distancing and not being directly upwind of our favorite competitors). If anyone has constructive ideas to add please let me know:
Here are the ground rules going forward. Based on our experience they might very well be modified for future evenings:
1. Please take your temperature before coming down to the club. You can be contagious with the coronavirus before you show any overt symptoms. So please, before participating, error on the side of caution if you have any vague symptoms or doubts about your health (loss of taste/smell, fever, respiratory symptoms, swollen feet, etc.).
2. Masks are mandatory on and off the water. I have a "neck gator" on order and that might be the best option. If the mask is uncomfortable, and you are well away from anyone, you can take responsibility for taking a brief break-but that runs the risk of forgetting to put it back on so, just like a PFD, it's better to just wear one.
3. Unless the wind is light, and it is warm, we will all wear a PFD, shore to shore.
4. Before and after handling the lock and gate, or helping one of your fellow competitors lift the boat off of their vehicle (appropriately distanced at 14 feet-the length of a Laser?:-)?please wash your hands or use a disinfectant wipe.
5. Soap and water is the most effective prevention so please consider bringing down some soap, in a travel dish. You can use your elbow to turn the water on.
6. We will be rigging at least 20 feet apart. So as we pull our boats out of line, rig, and launch please be aware of the location of other competitors and negotiate the transitions. ?
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Cool. Thanks for sharing Tom. ? I should've taken a photo, but the way I do it is pull my car underneath a black walnut tree. I can lift up the bow with a heavy line (in a loop making it 2:1 purchase. I lift the bow up and then can lift the stern off the car pivoting it perpendicular. Then I can pull the car out, flipped the boat over with the stern on the grass and shove a dolly underneath. To load I reverse the process. ? In The Sunfish Bible, available on the class website, there is a photo of someone doing a similar trick by placing the bow on a step ladder, probably 6 feet off the ground(with the boat parallel to the vehicle), lifting the stern and carefully placing it on the rear roof rack. I think if you go slow this would work and it, evidently, was a fairly common procedure. ? I only have to go through this hassle because I have two Sunfish and two Lasers. My regatta Sunfish and regatta Laser are hanging in the rafters in my garage and just get lower down. I built a setup, using padded two by fours for the Laser. But I splurged when I got back into the Sunfish a few years ago and bought a Hoister by Harken. Very slick. ? Be well, ? Mark ? ? 
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom Leone Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 11:57 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: Car topping revisited .... [SunfishSailor] TRICK PHOTOGRAPHY: Hiking Strap Retrofit ? Interesting article, thanks!? I have been cartopping my Minifish for a couple of years, and I'm able to load and unload it single-handed.? The Minifish hull only weighs 75 pounds,?which is why I sold my Sunfish and bought a Minifish.? I use a?Yakima?rack with a "BoatLoader" accessory, which is basically a bar that slides sideways out the end of the roof rack crossbar (photo at link below).? You lay the boat out beside the vehicle, pick up one end and put it on the BoatLoader, then pick up the other end and put it on the other roof rack crossbar, then slide the first end over onto the other roof rack crossbar.? You never need to lift more than half of the?boat's weight.? You could probably make something similar yourself, but I am impressed with the thoughtful design and high quality of the?Yakima?system.? It also works great for canoes.? I think a full-size Sunfish is probably too wide and heavy for this system. ? On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 12:05 PM Mark Kastel <kastel@...> wrote: Thanks Mike, ? I once hauled a Penguin out to the Chesapeake Bay, from Chicago, for the international championships with a pickup truck. Two carpeted two by fours, held on by C clamps, did the trick. Very easy on the boat. ? Car topping, which was a standard in Sunfish back when I was first racing them in the 60s and 70s, has fallen out of favor. However, it's really easy on the boat, compared to bouncing around on a trailer, even upside down, and if you live anywhere that you have to endure tolls it is quite cost-effective. ? Here's a comprehensive story I wrote, on the subject, for the Sunfish class magazine in 2018: ? Happy days, ? Mark ? 
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? ? Great job storing for transport on that little car.? With a dock in my back yard I am so fortunate.? Can be on the water in 15 minures.? I made a rack for the bed of my pickup when I do transport, but that is not very often. ? Mr Mlke ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? ? 
? Hello sports fans, ? After sharing the photos of my mount for the ratchet block (with the matching I strap underneath the deck for the forward mount of the hiking strap) I was contacted and asked how I mounted the aft end of the strap. Please find photos attached. And I appreciate the compliments regarding the photos. Since my boat is hanging upside down I had to stand on my head to take these :-) — a great way to store and transport your boat. ? Although the hardware is fairly generic if you want a turnkey updates, to make your boat race ready (outhauls, hiking strap, racing board, etc.), one shortcut is to find a qualified dealer that has gone through all this before. I've worked with The Dinghy Shop, on Long Island, and they've been happy to ship out here to flyover country (Wisconsin): . The outfit is run by a father and daughter team. Both of them are highly-competent and longtime competitors in the Sunfish class (and have made many other contributions to the organization as volunteers). So you get a lot of knowledge along with the equipment. ? Go sailing if you feel comfortable doing so! Day sailing alone is certainly safe. With a few minor modifications, being outside, the risks in raising are extremely low and the rewards high. ? Best regards, ? Mark ? PS: Racing rules for our Laser Fleet that we tested out last week: LaX Laser Fleet pandemic rules: Here are the ground rules we are starting with (and we will probably be a little more generous on the starting line and at mark groundings---thinking about maintaining social distancing and not being directly upwind of our favorite competitors). If anyone has constructive ideas to add please let me know:
Here are the ground rules going forward. Based on our experience they might very well be modified for future evenings:
1. Please take your temperature before coming down to the club. You can be contagious with the coronavirus before you show any overt symptoms. So please, before participating, error on the side of caution if you have any vague symptoms or doubts about your health (loss of taste/smell, fever, respiratory symptoms, swollen feet, etc.).
2. Masks are mandatory on and off the water. I have a "neck gator" on order and that might be the best option. If the mask is uncomfortable, and you are well away from anyone, you can take responsibility for taking a brief break-but that runs the risk of forgetting to put it back on so, just like a PFD, it's better to just wear one.
3. Unless the wind is light, and it is warm, we will all wear a PFD, shore to shore.
4. Before and after handling the lock and gate, or helping one of your fellow competitors lift the boat off of their vehicle (appropriately distanced at 14 feet-the length of a Laser?:-)?please wash your hands or use a disinfectant wipe.
5. Soap and water is the most effective prevention so please consider bringing down some soap, in a travel dish. You can use your elbow to turn the water on.
6. We will be rigging at least 20 feet apart. So as we pull our boats out of line, rig, and launch please be aware of the location of other competitors and negotiate the transitions. ?
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I've been using the step ladder method. Picked up a ~5 foot gorilla step ladder that folds up really flat. I store it on the car roof under the boat towards the back of the car. Then use a dolly to move from the car to the lake. So nice to be able to go sailing solo instead of relying on finding a friend to help. Though friends are always welcome.
On Sun, May 24, 2020, 11:29 AM Mark Kastel < kastel@...> wrote: Cool. Thanks for sharing Tom. ? I should've taken a photo, but the way I do it is pull my car underneath a black walnut tree. I can lift up the bow with a heavy line (in a loop making it 2:1 purchase. I lift the bow up and then can lift the stern off the car pivoting it perpendicular. Then I can pull the car out, flipped the boat over with the stern on the grass and shove a dolly underneath. To load I reverse the process. ? In The Sunfish Bible, available on the class website, there is a photo of someone doing a similar trick by placing the bow on a step ladder, probably 6 feet off the ground(with the boat parallel to the vehicle), lifting the stern and carefully placing it on the rear roof rack. I think if you go slow this would work and it, evidently, was a fairly common procedure. ? I only have to go through this hassle because I have two Sunfish and two Lasers. My regatta Sunfish and regatta Laser are hanging in the rafters in my garage and just get lower down. I built a setup, using padded two by fours for the Laser. But I splurged when I got back into the Sunfish a few years ago and bought a Hoister by Harken. Very slick. ? Be well, ? Mark ? ?
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? ? Mark A. Kastel Kastel@... 608-625-2042 ? ? Interesting article, thanks!? I have been cartopping my Minifish for a couple of years, and I'm able to load and unload it single-handed.? The Minifish hull only weighs 75 pounds,?which is why I sold my Sunfish and bought a Minifish.? I use a?Yakima?rack with a "BoatLoader" accessory, which is basically a bar that slides sideways out the end of the roof rack crossbar (photo at link below).? You lay the boat out beside the vehicle, pick up one end and put it on the BoatLoader, then pick up the other end and put it on the other roof rack crossbar, then slide the first end over onto the other roof rack crossbar.? You never need to lift more than half of the?boat's weight.? You could probably make something similar yourself, but I am impressed with the thoughtful design and high quality of the?Yakima?system.? It also works great for canoes.? I think a full-size Sunfish is probably too wide and heavy for this system. ? On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 12:05 PM Mark Kastel <kastel@...> wrote: Thanks Mike, ? I once hauled a Penguin out to the Chesapeake Bay, from Chicago, for the international championships with a pickup truck. Two carpeted two by fours, held on by C clamps, did the trick. Very easy on the boat. ? Car topping, which was a standard in Sunfish back when I was first racing them in the 60s and 70s, has fallen out of favor. However, it's really easy on the boat, compared to bouncing around on a trailer, even upside down, and if you live anywhere that you have to endure tolls it is quite cost-effective. ? Here's a comprehensive story I wrote, on the subject, for the Sunfish class magazine in 2018: ? Happy days, ? Mark ?
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? ? Great job storing for transport on that little car.? With a dock in my back yard I am so fortunate.? Can be on the water in 15 minures.? I made a rack for the bed of my pickup when I do transport, but that is not very often. ? Mr Mlke ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? ?
? Hello sports fans, ? After sharing the photos of my mount for the ratchet block (with the matching I strap underneath the deck for the forward mount of the hiking strap) I was contacted and asked how I mounted the aft end of the strap. Please find photos attached. And I appreciate the compliments regarding the photos. Since my boat is hanging upside down I had to stand on my head to take these :-) — a great way to store and transport your boat. ? Although the hardware is fairly generic if you want a turnkey updates, to make your boat race ready (outhauls, hiking strap, racing board, etc.), one shortcut is to find a qualified dealer that has gone through all this before. I've worked with The Dinghy Shop, on Long Island, and they've been happy to ship out here to flyover country (Wisconsin): . The outfit is run by a father and daughter team. Both of them are highly-competent and longtime competitors in the Sunfish class (and have made many other contributions to the organization as volunteers). So you get a lot of knowledge along with the equipment. ? Go sailing if you feel comfortable doing so! Day sailing alone is certainly safe. With a few minor modifications, being outside, the risks in raising are extremely low and the rewards high. ? Best regards, ? Mark ? PS: Racing rules for our Laser Fleet that we tested out last week: LaX Laser Fleet pandemic rules: Here are the ground rules we are starting with (and we will probably be a little more generous on the starting line and at mark groundings---thinking about maintaining social distancing and not being directly upwind of our favorite competitors). If anyone has constructive ideas to add please let me know:
Here are the ground rules going forward. Based on our experience they might very well be modified for future evenings:
1. Please take your temperature before coming down to the club. You can be contagious with the coronavirus before you show any overt symptoms. So please, before participating, error on the side of caution if you have any vague symptoms or doubts about your health (loss of taste/smell, fever, respiratory symptoms, swollen feet, etc.).
2. Masks are mandatory on and off the water. I have a "neck gator" on order and that might be the best option. If the mask is uncomfortable, and you are well away from anyone, you can take responsibility for taking a brief break-but that runs the risk of forgetting to put it back on so, just like a PFD, it's better to just wear one.
3. Unless the wind is light, and it is warm, we will all wear a PFD, shore to shore.
4. Before and after handling the lock and gate, or helping one of your fellow competitors lift the boat off of their vehicle (appropriately distanced at 14 feet-the length of a Laser?:-)?please wash your hands or use a disinfectant wipe.
5. Soap and water is the most effective prevention so please consider bringing down some soap, in a travel dish. You can use your elbow to turn the water on.
6. We will be rigging at least 20 feet apart. So as we pull our boats out of line, rig, and launch please be aware of the location of other competitors and negotiate the transitions. ?
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Mark replied and said I should share pictures so here they are. My setup isn't nearly as streamlined and nice as others here but it gets the job done. And no, I did not make the dent in my side door while loading the boat. That dent is from someone whom I believe kicked my car door while it was parked on a street in Buffalo.
Heading up to a small canyon reservoir in Utah tomorrow for sailing.
Cheers Scott
On Sun, May 24, 2020, 12:40 PM Scott Black < scootna@...> wrote: I've been using the step ladder method. Picked up a ~5 foot gorilla step ladder that folds up really flat. I store it on the car roof under the boat towards the back of the car. Then use a dolly to move from the car to the lake. So nice to be able to go sailing solo instead of relying on finding a friend to help. Though friends are always welcome.
On Sun, May 24, 2020, 11:29 AM Mark Kastel < kastel@...> wrote: Cool. Thanks for sharing Tom. ? I should've taken a photo, but the way I do it is pull my car underneath a black walnut tree. I can lift up the bow with a heavy line (in a loop making it 2:1 purchase. I lift the bow up and then can lift the stern off the car pivoting it perpendicular. Then I can pull the car out, flipped the boat over with the stern on the grass and shove a dolly underneath. To load I reverse the process. ? In The Sunfish Bible, available on the class website, there is a photo of someone doing a similar trick by placing the bow on a step ladder, probably 6 feet off the ground(with the boat parallel to the vehicle), lifting the stern and carefully placing it on the rear roof rack. I think if you go slow this would work and it, evidently, was a fairly common procedure. ? I only have to go through this hassle because I have two Sunfish and two Lasers. My regatta Sunfish and regatta Laser are hanging in the rafters in my garage and just get lower down. I built a setup, using padded two by fours for the Laser. But I splurged when I got back into the Sunfish a few years ago and bought a Hoister by Harken. Very slick. ? Be well, ? Mark ? ? ![A car parked on the side of a building
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? ? Mark A. Kastel Kastel@... 608-625-2042 ? ? Interesting article, thanks!? I have been cartopping my Minifish for a couple of years, and I'm able to load and unload it single-handed.? The Minifish hull only weighs 75 pounds,?which is why I sold my Sunfish and bought a Minifish.? I use a?Yakima?rack with a "BoatLoader" accessory, which is basically a bar that slides sideways out the end of the roof rack crossbar (photo at link below).? You lay the boat out beside the vehicle, pick up one end and put it on the BoatLoader, then pick up the other end and put it on the other roof rack crossbar, then slide the first end over onto the other roof rack crossbar.? You never need to lift more than half of the?boat's weight.? You could probably make something similar yourself, but I am impressed with the thoughtful design and high quality of the?Yakima?system.? It also works great for canoes.? I think a full-size Sunfish is probably too wide and heavy for this system. ? On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 12:05 PM Mark Kastel <kastel@...> wrote: Thanks Mike, ? I once hauled a Penguin out to the Chesapeake Bay, from Chicago, for the international championships with a pickup truck. Two carpeted two by fours, held on by C clamps, did the trick. Very easy on the boat. ? Car topping, which was a standard in Sunfish back when I was first racing them in the 60s and 70s, has fallen out of favor. However, it's really easy on the boat, compared to bouncing around on a trailer, even upside down, and if you live anywhere that you have to endure tolls it is quite cost-effective. ? Here's a comprehensive story I wrote, on the subject, for the Sunfish class magazine in 2018: ? Happy days, ? Mark ? ![A car parked in the grass
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? ? Great job storing for transport on that little car.? With a dock in my back yard I am so fortunate.? Can be on the water in 15 minures.? I made a rack for the bed of my pickup when I do transport, but that is not very often. ? Mr Mlke ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? ? ![A reflection of a mirror
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? Hello sports fans, ? After sharing the photos of my mount for the ratchet block (with the matching I strap underneath the deck for the forward mount of the hiking strap) I was contacted and asked how I mounted the aft end of the strap. Please find photos attached. And I appreciate the compliments regarding the photos. Since my boat is hanging upside down I had to stand on my head to take these :-) — a great way to store and transport your boat. ? Although the hardware is fairly generic if you want a turnkey updates, to make your boat race ready (outhauls, hiking strap, racing board, etc.), one shortcut is to find a qualified dealer that has gone through all this before. I've worked with The Dinghy Shop, on Long Island, and they've been happy to ship out here to flyover country (Wisconsin): . The outfit is run by a father and daughter team. Both of them are highly-competent and longtime competitors in the Sunfish class (and have made many other contributions to the organization as volunteers). So you get a lot of knowledge along with the equipment. ? Go sailing if you feel comfortable doing so! Day sailing alone is certainly safe. With a few minor modifications, being outside, the risks in raising are extremely low and the rewards high. ? Best regards, ? Mark ? PS: Racing rules for our Laser Fleet that we tested out last week: LaX Laser Fleet pandemic rules: Here are the ground rules we are starting with (and we will probably be a little more generous on the starting line and at mark groundings---thinking about maintaining social distancing and not being directly upwind of our favorite competitors). If anyone has constructive ideas to add please let me know:
Here are the ground rules going forward. Based on our experience they might very well be modified for future evenings:
1. Please take your temperature before coming down to the club. You can be contagious with the coronavirus before you show any overt symptoms. So please, before participating, error on the side of caution if you have any vague symptoms or doubts about your health (loss of taste/smell, fever, respiratory symptoms, swollen feet, etc.).
2. Masks are mandatory on and off the water. I have a "neck gator" on order and that might be the best option. If the mask is uncomfortable, and you are well away from anyone, you can take responsibility for taking a brief break-but that runs the risk of forgetting to put it back on so, just like a PFD, it's better to just wear one.
3. Unless the wind is light, and it is warm, we will all wear a PFD, shore to shore.
4. Before and after handling the lock and gate, or helping one of your fellow competitors lift the boat off of their vehicle (appropriately distanced at 14 feet-the length of a Laser?:-)?please wash your hands or use a disinfectant wipe.
5. Soap and water is the most effective prevention so please consider bringing down some soap, in a travel dish. You can use your elbow to turn the water on.
6. We will be rigging at least 20 feet apart. So as we pull our boats out of line, rig, and launch please be aware of the location of other competitors and negotiate the transitions. ?
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I appreciated your showing us how you car top your boat, but? I would urge use of the stronger, easier to use straps used in rafting instead of the type used here. Too tight a tension can lead to cracks and weakening of the hull. Rafting straps come in lengths 4' to 16' and are remarkably tough. A reliable alternative is 1/4' - 3/8" nylon line formed with a bowline in one end. Make 2-4 of these for endless uses. Nylon has the advantage of a little bit of give that avoids problems that accompany rigidity. One more thing: wind can lead to loss of load, so always secure one of those nylon lines to the bow (and even the stern) and then to a tie-down point under the hood, using a U-shaped 1' nylon strap fastened to a bolt joining the fender to the frame. Hide it under the hood when not in use. I've used this method the last few decades to haul everything from ladders and lumber to canoes, kayaks and sailboats weighing less than 150 lbs. That plus Yakima or Thule roof racks take the worry out of roof transport.?
Dave in Kansas
On Mon, May 25, 2020, 1:08 AM scootna < scootna@...> wrote: Mark replied and said I should share pictures so here they are. My setup isn't nearly as streamlined and nice as others here but it gets the job done. And no, I did not make the dent in my side door while loading the boat. That dent is from someone whom I believe kicked my car door while it was parked on a street in Buffalo.
Heading up to a small canyon reservoir in Utah tomorrow for sailing.
Cheers Scott
On Sun, May 24, 2020, 12:40 PM Scott Black < scootna@...> wrote: I've been using the step ladder method. Picked up a ~5 foot gorilla step ladder that folds up really flat. I store it on the car roof under the boat towards the back of the car. Then use a dolly to move from the car to the lake. So nice to be able to go sailing solo instead of relying on finding a friend to help. Though friends are always welcome.
On Sun, May 24, 2020, 11:29 AM Mark Kastel < kastel@...> wrote: Cool. Thanks for sharing Tom. ? I should've taken a photo, but the way I do it is pull my car underneath a black walnut tree. I can lift up the bow with a heavy line (in a loop making it 2:1 purchase. I lift the bow up and then can lift the stern off the car pivoting it perpendicular. Then I can pull the car out, flipped the boat over with the stern on the grass and shove a dolly underneath. To load I reverse the process. ? In The Sunfish Bible, available on the class website, there is a photo of someone doing a similar trick by placing the bow on a step ladder, probably 6 feet off the ground(with the boat parallel to the vehicle), lifting the stern and carefully placing it on the rear roof rack. I think if you go slow this would work and it, evidently, was a fairly common procedure. ? I only have to go through this hassle because I have two Sunfish and two Lasers. My regatta Sunfish and regatta Laser are hanging in the rafters in my garage and just get lower down. I built a setup, using padded two by fours for the Laser. But I splurged when I got back into the Sunfish a few years ago and bought a Hoister by Harken. Very slick. ? Be well, ? Mark ? ? ![A car parked on the side of a building
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? ? Mark A. Kastel Kastel@... 608-625-2042 ? ? Interesting article, thanks!? I have been cartopping my Minifish for a couple of years, and I'm able to load and unload it single-handed.? The Minifish hull only weighs 75 pounds,?which is why I sold my Sunfish and bought a Minifish.? I use a?Yakima?rack with a "BoatLoader" accessory, which is basically a bar that slides sideways out the end of the roof rack crossbar (photo at link below).? You lay the boat out beside the vehicle, pick up one end and put it on the BoatLoader, then pick up the other end and put it on the other roof rack crossbar, then slide the first end over onto the other roof rack crossbar.? You never need to lift more than half of the?boat's weight.? You could probably make something similar yourself, but I am impressed with the thoughtful design and high quality of the?Yakima?system.? It also works great for canoes.? I think a full-size Sunfish is probably too wide and heavy for this system. ? On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 12:05 PM Mark Kastel <kastel@...> wrote: Thanks Mike, ? I once hauled a Penguin out to the Chesapeake Bay, from Chicago, for the international championships with a pickup truck. Two carpeted two by fours, held on by C clamps, did the trick. Very easy on the boat. ? Car topping, which was a standard in Sunfish back when I was first racing them in the 60s and 70s, has fallen out of favor. However, it's really easy on the boat, compared to bouncing around on a trailer, even upside down, and if you live anywhere that you have to endure tolls it is quite cost-effective. ? Here's a comprehensive story I wrote, on the subject, for the Sunfish class magazine in 2018: ? Happy days, ? Mark ? ![A car parked in the grass
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? ? Great job storing for transport on that little car.? With a dock in my back yard I am so fortunate.? Can be on the water in 15 minures.? I made a rack for the bed of my pickup when I do transport, but that is not very often. ? Mr Mlke ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? ? ![A reflection of a mirror
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? Hello sports fans, ? After sharing the photos of my mount for the ratchet block (with the matching I strap underneath the deck for the forward mount of the hiking strap) I was contacted and asked how I mounted the aft end of the strap. Please find photos attached. And I appreciate the compliments regarding the photos. Since my boat is hanging upside down I had to stand on my head to take these :-) — a great way to store and transport your boat. ? Although the hardware is fairly generic if you want a turnkey updates, to make your boat race ready (outhauls, hiking strap, racing board, etc.), one shortcut is to find a qualified dealer that has gone through all this before. I've worked with The Dinghy Shop, on Long Island, and they've been happy to ship out here to flyover country (Wisconsin): . The outfit is run by a father and daughter team. Both of them are highly-competent and longtime competitors in the Sunfish class (and have made many other contributions to the organization as volunteers). So you get a lot of knowledge along with the equipment. ? Go sailing if you feel comfortable doing so! Day sailing alone is certainly safe. With a few minor modifications, being outside, the risks in raising are extremely low and the rewards high. ? Best regards, ? Mark ? PS: Racing rules for our Laser Fleet that we tested out last week: LaX Laser Fleet pandemic rules: Here are the ground rules we are starting with (and we will probably be a little more generous on the starting line and at mark groundings---thinking about maintaining social distancing and not being directly upwind of our favorite competitors). If anyone has constructive ideas to add please let me know:
Here are the ground rules going forward. Based on our experience they might very well be modified for future evenings:
1. Please take your temperature before coming down to the club. You can be contagious with the coronavirus before you show any overt symptoms. So please, before participating, error on the side of caution if you have any vague symptoms or doubts about your health (loss of taste/smell, fever, respiratory symptoms, swollen feet, etc.).
2. Masks are mandatory on and off the water. I have a "neck gator" on order and that might be the best option. If the mask is uncomfortable, and you are well away from anyone, you can take responsibility for taking a brief break-but that runs the risk of forgetting to put it back on so, just like a PFD, it's better to just wear one.
3. Unless the wind is light, and it is warm, we will all wear a PFD, shore to shore.
4. Before and after handling the lock and gate, or helping one of your fellow competitors lift the boat off of their vehicle (appropriately distanced at 14 feet-the length of a Laser?:-)?please wash your hands or use a disinfectant wipe.
5. Soap and water is the most effective prevention so please consider bringing down some soap, in a travel dish. You can use your elbow to turn the water on.
6. We will be rigging at least 20 feet apart. So as we pull our boats out of line, rig, and launch please be aware of the location of other competitors and negotiate the transitions. ?
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I appreciate the feedback, I'll grab some rafting straps
Scott
On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 9:08 AM Dave Redmon < LDRedmon@...> wrote: I appreciated your showing us how you car top your boat, but? I would urge use of the stronger, easier to use straps used in rafting instead of the type used here. Too tight a tension can lead to cracks and weakening of the hull. Rafting straps come in lengths 4' to 16' and are remarkably tough. A reliable alternative is 1/4' - 3/8" nylon line formed with a bowline in one end. Make 2-4 of these for endless uses. Nylon has the advantage of a little bit of give that avoids problems that accompany rigidity. One more thing: wind can lead to loss of load, so always secure one of those nylon lines to the bow (and even the stern) and then to a tie-down point under the hood, using a U-shaped 1' nylon strap fastened to a bolt joining the fender to the frame. Hide it under the hood when not in use. I've used this method the last few decades to haul everything from ladders and lumber to canoes, kayaks and sailboats weighing less than 150 lbs. That plus Yakima or Thule roof racks take the worry out of roof transport.?
Dave in Kansas
On Mon, May 25, 2020, 1:08 AM scootna < scootna@...> wrote: Mark replied and said I should share pictures so here they are. My setup isn't nearly as streamlined and nice as others here but it gets the job done. And no, I did not make the dent in my side door while loading the boat. That dent is from someone whom I believe kicked my car door while it was parked on a street in Buffalo.
Heading up to a small canyon reservoir in Utah tomorrow for sailing.
Cheers Scott
On Sun, May 24, 2020, 12:40 PM Scott Black < scootna@...> wrote: I've been using the step ladder method. Picked up a ~5 foot gorilla step ladder that folds up really flat. I store it on the car roof under the boat towards the back of the car. Then use a dolly to move from the car to the lake. So nice to be able to go sailing solo instead of relying on finding a friend to help. Though friends are always welcome.
On Sun, May 24, 2020, 11:29 AM Mark Kastel < kastel@...> wrote: Cool. Thanks for sharing Tom. ? I should've taken a photo, but the way I do it is pull my car underneath a black walnut tree. I can lift up the bow with a heavy line (in a loop making it 2:1 purchase. I lift the bow up and then can lift the stern off the car pivoting it perpendicular. Then I can pull the car out, flipped the boat over with the stern on the grass and shove a dolly underneath. To load I reverse the process. ? In The Sunfish Bible, available on the class website, there is a photo of someone doing a similar trick by placing the bow on a step ladder, probably 6 feet off the ground(with the boat parallel to the vehicle), lifting the stern and carefully placing it on the rear roof rack. I think if you go slow this would work and it, evidently, was a fairly common procedure. ? I only have to go through this hassle because I have two Sunfish and two Lasers. My regatta Sunfish and regatta Laser are hanging in the rafters in my garage and just get lower down. I built a setup, using padded two by fours for the Laser. But I splurged when I got back into the Sunfish a few years ago and bought a Hoister by Harken. Very slick. ? Be well, ? Mark ? ? ![A car parked on the side of a building
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? ? Mark A. Kastel Kastel@... 608-625-2042 ? ? Interesting article, thanks!? I have been cartopping my Minifish for a couple of years, and I'm able to load and unload it single-handed.? The Minifish hull only weighs 75 pounds,?which is why I sold my Sunfish and bought a Minifish.? I use a?Yakima?rack with a "BoatLoader" accessory, which is basically a bar that slides sideways out the end of the roof rack crossbar (photo at link below).? You lay the boat out beside the vehicle, pick up one end and put it on the BoatLoader, then pick up the other end and put it on the other roof rack crossbar, then slide the first end over onto the other roof rack crossbar.? You never need to lift more than half of the?boat's weight.? You could probably make something similar yourself, but I am impressed with the thoughtful design and high quality of the?Yakima?system.? It also works great for canoes.? I think a full-size Sunfish is probably too wide and heavy for this system. ? On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 12:05 PM Mark Kastel <kastel@...> wrote: Thanks Mike, ? I once hauled a Penguin out to the Chesapeake Bay, from Chicago, for the international championships with a pickup truck. Two carpeted two by fours, held on by C clamps, did the trick. Very easy on the boat. ? Car topping, which was a standard in Sunfish back when I was first racing them in the 60s and 70s, has fallen out of favor. However, it's really easy on the boat, compared to bouncing around on a trailer, even upside down, and if you live anywhere that you have to endure tolls it is quite cost-effective. ? Here's a comprehensive story I wrote, on the subject, for the Sunfish class magazine in 2018: ? Happy days, ? Mark ? ![A car parked in the grass
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? ? Great job storing for transport on that little car.? With a dock in my back yard I am so fortunate.? Can be on the water in 15 minures.? I made a rack for the bed of my pickup when I do transport, but that is not very often. ? Mr Mlke ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? ? ![A reflection of a mirror
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? Hello sports fans, ? After sharing the photos of my mount for the ratchet block (with the matching I strap underneath the deck for the forward mount of the hiking strap) I was contacted and asked how I mounted the aft end of the strap. Please find photos attached. And I appreciate the compliments regarding the photos. Since my boat is hanging upside down I had to stand on my head to take these :-) — a great way to store and transport your boat. ? Although the hardware is fairly generic if you want a turnkey updates, to make your boat race ready (outhauls, hiking strap, racing board, etc.), one shortcut is to find a qualified dealer that has gone through all this before. I've worked with The Dinghy Shop, on Long Island, and they've been happy to ship out here to flyover country (Wisconsin): . The outfit is run by a father and daughter team. Both of them are highly-competent and longtime competitors in the Sunfish class (and have made many other contributions to the organization as volunteers). So you get a lot of knowledge along with the equipment. ? Go sailing if you feel comfortable doing so! Day sailing alone is certainly safe. With a few minor modifications, being outside, the risks in raising are extremely low and the rewards high. ? Best regards, ? Mark ? PS: Racing rules for our Laser Fleet that we tested out last week: LaX Laser Fleet pandemic rules: Here are the ground rules we are starting with (and we will probably be a little more generous on the starting line and at mark groundings---thinking about maintaining social distancing and not being directly upwind of our favorite competitors). If anyone has constructive ideas to add please let me know:
Here are the ground rules going forward. Based on our experience they might very well be modified for future evenings:
1. Please take your temperature before coming down to the club. You can be contagious with the coronavirus before you show any overt symptoms. So please, before participating, error on the side of caution if you have any vague symptoms or doubts about your health (loss of taste/smell, fever, respiratory symptoms, swollen feet, etc.).
2. Masks are mandatory on and off the water. I have a "neck gator" on order and that might be the best option. If the mask is uncomfortable, and you are well away from anyone, you can take responsibility for taking a brief break-but that runs the risk of forgetting to put it back on so, just like a PFD, it's better to just wear one.
3. Unless the wind is light, and it is warm, we will all wear a PFD, shore to shore.
4. Before and after handling the lock and gate, or helping one of your fellow competitors lift the boat off of their vehicle (appropriately distanced at 14 feet-the length of a Laser?:-)?please wash your hands or use a disinfectant wipe.
5. Soap and water is the most effective prevention so please consider bringing down some soap, in a travel dish. You can use your elbow to turn the water on.
6. We will be rigging at least 20 feet apart. So as we pull our boats out of line, rig, and launch please be aware of the location of other competitors and negotiate the transitions. ?
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On Mon, May 25, 2020, 11:17 AM scootna < scootna@...> wrote: I appreciate the feedback, I'll grab some rafting straps
Scott
On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 9:08 AM Dave Redmon < LDRedmon@...> wrote: I appreciated your showing us how you car top your boat, but? I would urge use of the stronger, easier to use straps used in rafting instead of the type used here. Too tight a tension can lead to cracks and weakening of the hull. Rafting straps come in lengths 4' to 16' and are remarkably tough. A reliable alternative is 1/4' - 3/8" nylon line formed with a bowline in one end. Make 2-4 of these for endless uses. Nylon has the advantage of a little bit of give that avoids problems that accompany rigidity. One more thing: wind can lead to loss of load, so always secure one of those nylon lines to the bow (and even the stern) and then to a tie-down point under the hood, using a U-shaped 1' nylon strap fastened to a bolt joining the fender to the frame. Hide it under the hood when not in use. I've used this method the last few decades to haul everything from ladders and lumber to canoes, kayaks and sailboats weighing less than 150 lbs. That plus Yakima or Thule roof racks take the worry out of roof transport.?
Dave in Kansas
On Mon, May 25, 2020, 1:08 AM scootna < scootna@...> wrote: Mark replied and said I should share pictures so here they are. My setup isn't nearly as streamlined and nice as others here but it gets the job done. And no, I did not make the dent in my side door while loading the boat. That dent is from someone whom I believe kicked my car door while it was parked on a street in Buffalo.
Heading up to a small canyon reservoir in Utah tomorrow for sailing.
Cheers Scott
On Sun, May 24, 2020, 12:40 PM Scott Black < scootna@...> wrote: I've been using the step ladder method. Picked up a ~5 foot gorilla step ladder that folds up really flat. I store it on the car roof under the boat towards the back of the car. Then use a dolly to move from the car to the lake. So nice to be able to go sailing solo instead of relying on finding a friend to help. Though friends are always welcome.
On Sun, May 24, 2020, 11:29 AM Mark Kastel < kastel@...> wrote: Cool. Thanks for sharing Tom. ? I should've taken a photo, but the way I do it is pull my car underneath a black walnut tree. I can lift up the bow with a heavy line (in a loop making it 2:1 purchase. I lift the bow up and then can lift the stern off the car pivoting it perpendicular. Then I can pull the car out, flipped the boat over with the stern on the grass and shove a dolly underneath. To load I reverse the process. ? In The Sunfish Bible, available on the class website, there is a photo of someone doing a similar trick by placing the bow on a step ladder, probably 6 feet off the ground(with the boat parallel to the vehicle), lifting the stern and carefully placing it on the rear roof rack. I think if you go slow this would work and it, evidently, was a fairly common procedure. ? I only have to go through this hassle because I have two Sunfish and two Lasers. My regatta Sunfish and regatta Laser are hanging in the rafters in my garage and just get lower down. I built a setup, using padded two by fours for the Laser. But I splurged when I got back into the Sunfish a few years ago and bought a Hoister by Harken. Very slick. ? Be well, ? Mark ? ? ![A car parked on the side of a building
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? ? Mark A. Kastel Kastel@... 608-625-2042 ? ? Interesting article, thanks!? I have been cartopping my Minifish for a couple of years, and I'm able to load and unload it single-handed.? The Minifish hull only weighs 75 pounds,?which is why I sold my Sunfish and bought a Minifish.? I use a?Yakima?rack with a "BoatLoader" accessory, which is basically a bar that slides sideways out the end of the roof rack crossbar (photo at link below).? You lay the boat out beside the vehicle, pick up one end and put it on the BoatLoader, then pick up the other end and put it on the other roof rack crossbar, then slide the first end over onto the other roof rack crossbar.? You never need to lift more than half of the?boat's weight.? You could probably make something similar yourself, but I am impressed with the thoughtful design and high quality of the?Yakima?system.? It also works great for canoes.? I think a full-size Sunfish is probably too wide and heavy for this system. ? On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 12:05 PM Mark Kastel <kastel@...> wrote: Thanks Mike, ? I once hauled a Penguin out to the Chesapeake Bay, from Chicago, for the international championships with a pickup truck. Two carpeted two by fours, held on by C clamps, did the trick. Very easy on the boat. ? Car topping, which was a standard in Sunfish back when I was first racing them in the 60s and 70s, has fallen out of favor. However, it's really easy on the boat, compared to bouncing around on a trailer, even upside down, and if you live anywhere that you have to endure tolls it is quite cost-effective. ? Here's a comprehensive story I wrote, on the subject, for the Sunfish class magazine in 2018: ? Happy days, ? Mark ? ![A car parked in the grass
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? ![A car parked in a grassy field
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? ? Great job storing for transport on that little car.? With a dock in my back yard I am so fortunate.? Can be on the water in 15 minures.? I made a rack for the bed of my pickup when I do transport, but that is not very often. ? Mr Mlke ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? ? ![A reflection of a mirror
Description automatically generated]()
? Hello sports fans, ? After sharing the photos of my mount for the ratchet block (with the matching I strap underneath the deck for the forward mount of the hiking strap) I was contacted and asked how I mounted the aft end of the strap. Please find photos attached. And I appreciate the compliments regarding the photos. Since my boat is hanging upside down I had to stand on my head to take these :-) — a great way to store and transport your boat. ? Although the hardware is fairly generic if you want a turnkey updates, to make your boat race ready (outhauls, hiking strap, racing board, etc.), one shortcut is to find a qualified dealer that has gone through all this before. I've worked with The Dinghy Shop, on Long Island, and they've been happy to ship out here to flyover country (Wisconsin): . The outfit is run by a father and daughter team. Both of them are highly-competent and longtime competitors in the Sunfish class (and have made many other contributions to the organization as volunteers). So you get a lot of knowledge along with the equipment. ? Go sailing if you feel comfortable doing so! Day sailing alone is certainly safe. With a few minor modifications, being outside, the risks in raising are extremely low and the rewards high. ? Best regards, ? Mark ? PS: Racing rules for our Laser Fleet that we tested out last week: LaX Laser Fleet pandemic rules: Here are the ground rules we are starting with (and we will probably be a little more generous on the starting line and at mark groundings---thinking about maintaining social distancing and not being directly upwind of our favorite competitors). If anyone has constructive ideas to add please let me know:
Here are the ground rules going forward. Based on our experience they might very well be modified for future evenings:
1. Please take your temperature before coming down to the club. You can be contagious with the coronavirus before you show any overt symptoms. So please, before participating, error on the side of caution if you have any vague symptoms or doubts about your health (loss of taste/smell, fever, respiratory symptoms, swollen feet, etc.).
2. Masks are mandatory on and off the water. I have a "neck gator" on order and that might be the best option. If the mask is uncomfortable, and you are well away from anyone, you can take responsibility for taking a brief break-but that runs the risk of forgetting to put it back on so, just like a PFD, it's better to just wear one.
3. Unless the wind is light, and it is warm, we will all wear a PFD, shore to shore.
4. Before and after handling the lock and gate, or helping one of your fellow competitors lift the boat off of their vehicle (appropriately distanced at 14 feet-the length of a Laser?:-)?please wash your hands or use a disinfectant wipe.
5. Soap and water is the most effective prevention so please consider bringing down some soap, in a travel dish. You can use your elbow to turn the water on.
6. We will be rigging at least 20 feet apart. So as we pull our boats out of line, rig, and launch please be aware of the location of other competitors and negotiate the transitions. ?
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