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NV DMV documentation, Vanagon engine conversion to Subaru,
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I have done my own engine conversion in Reno, NV in mid- 2002.
I did contact the Reno branch of the NV DMV, and to the best of my recollection, he did not seem to be very interested in this conversion, though he did give me some documentation, with the remark that if ever I do have a problem, to keep the pages he gave me available. Yesterday I tied to renew my registration, smog inspection, was told there are new regulations that required verification of the legality of the conversion. In typical fashion of bureaucratic efficiency, they could not find the information I gave this agent, who was not present at the rime. I am not sure about this, but seem to remember there was little interest in documenting this reconversion at that time, but the smog criteria were passed with ease, less than 10% of the limits over the last 4 years. When trying to make the point that this engine was far more cleaner burning than the limits (or the VW engine results for that matter) the answer I got was 'these are no-load results' as if the nominal limits were not calibrated to no-load engines. Anyone on this board familiar with these new sudden interest in VW / Subaru engine swaps?? Is VW trying to stem the loss in business from Subaru replacement engines?? Any information is welcome. |
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On Oct 10, 2012, at 12:12 PM, "HermannG" <hermanng@...> wrote:
Yesterday I tied to renew my registration, smog inspection, was told there are new regulations that required verification of the legality of the conversion. How did the test/registration station KNOW there was a Subaru engine in your van? The shops I've gone to here in Utah never ask, don't know, unless I DUSCUSS THAT FACT WITH THEM. bob |
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Scott Daniel - Turbovans
Lot of questions left unanwsered seems to me.
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Did they offer, or you ask, to run it on a dyno smog test ? Is yous a Syncro ? ... often on a dyno under-load smog test, they'll let AWD cars slide as they don't have a dyno to run AWD cars on . Or so I've read. I cannot fathom that VW of America is calling DMV's and saying anything about what engines are in 25 year old Vanagons. Personally , I think calling anyone and asking is the wrong thing to do. Chances are if you call back in 20 minutes, or two weeks later, and talk to someone else, you'll get a different answer. What I have found to work sometimes.. you just take the van in and get a regular ole smog check, and don't even mention it's non-stock. That has worked for me in a state that is not California. Did you study online at NV's DMV site ? At the california DMW and CARB sies you can study at quite some length what the rules and parameters are. Nevada could have the same thing. On 10/10/2012 11:12 AM, HermannG wrote:
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dennis miller
I think we will be running into this more and more as more states move to
implement cleaner air regulations imposed by the EPA. It's not personal to Vanagon/Subaru swaps, it's going to apply to any conversions after a certain year model. Every state will be different. It sounds like Nevada is going to a dyno/loaded mode test regimen like CAL. Hopefully they will be more accepting of conversions than CAL and make reasonable regulations to accommodate them. Good luck. From: subaruvanagon@... [mailto:subaruvanagon@...] On Behalf Of HermannG Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:12 AM To: subaruvanagon@... Subject: [subaruvanagon] NV DMV documentation, Vanagon engine conversion to Subaru, I have done my own engine conversion in Reno, NV in mid- 2002. I did contact the Reno branch of the NV DMV, and to the best of my recollection, he did not seem to be very interested in this conversion, though he did give me some documentation, with the remark that if ever I do have a problem, to keep the pages he gave me available. Yesterday I tied to renew my registration, smog inspection, was told there are new regulations that required verification of the legality of the conversion. In typical fashion of bureaucratic efficiency, they could not find the information I gave this agent, who was not present at the rime. I am not sure about this, but seem to remember there was little interest in documenting this reconversion at that time, but the smog criteria were passed with ease, less than 10% of the limits over the last 4 years. When trying to make the point that this engine was far more cleaner burning than the limits (or the VW engine results for that matter) the answer I got was 'these are no-load results' as if the nominal limits were not calibrated to no-load engines. Anyone on this board familiar with these new sudden interest in VW / Subaru engine swaps?? Is VW trying to stem the loss in business from Subaru replacement engines?? Any information is welcome. |
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When we renew registration here in SoCal, local DMV is out f the loop
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afa smog test is concerned. Smog test results go directly to Sacramento and registration can be conveniently made on DMV website Legality of conversion depends on the way inspector sees it VW has nothing to do with this issue Leon On 10/10/2012 11:12 AM, HermannG wrote:
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I have three cars registered in Reno. On my last smog test on a newer car, there was no sniffer check, only an OBDC II scan.
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On my 1984 VW camper, it qualified as a collectable vehicle (I forget the verbage), so no smog check required at all. Never was I asked, even on earlier sniffer tests, whether there was any modifications. However, more recently talking the smog guy, he said they were "cracking down" on modifications. I can only surmise that since they don't do the sniff anymore, they rely upon OBDII and a view of the engine for mods. This is probably because the private companies had to spend too much on the sniffers and lobbied the legislature to get the sniffer test eliminated. Personally, I think the sniffer was the right way to go, as a Subie conversion is way lower polluting than the original engine and is more likely to catch polluters. BTW, for other readers, all of the smog check stations are private businesses in Reno. They just issue the certificate required by the DMV to get licensed. I'm not aware of any "referee" kind of system whereby it escalates for problems like in California, however. To HermannG - if you know anyone in Carson, Fernley, Gardnerville, etc., you may want to see if you can license it using their address. Rural counties (including Carson) do not require smog tests, just Reno and Las Vegas. Rich --- In subaruvanagon@..., "HermannG" <hermanng@...> wrote:
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Bob Stevens
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