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Wiring Harness instruction help
Hi all,
Just trying to narrow down where to start with my wiring harness. I have picked up a 2.2 from a 1997 Legacy (automatic) I called RMW where I will be getting my kit and was surprised to learn that they do not offer any instruction kit to do your own harness. Through a friend I have one of the KEP (I think this is where it's from) 6ft foldout layout instruction for the harness it says on the lower right hand corner : "Revision C, redrawn march 6, 1997" So my question is, do you think this will get me through? if not who's kit is the "best" to go with. This is my first time and I of course want to do it right. Is the small car "kit" for wiring worth the money? Just looking for some direction. Thank you all very much. |
John Charlton
When I did my 2.5 conversion a couple of years ago, I debated with myself over the harness, just as you are. In the end, although I felt capable of doing the harness myself, and considering all of the potential issues both prior to start up, at start up and thereafter when on the road, I decided that it was probably money well spent to have the guru of subaru, Tom Shiels , do the harness for me.? As expected, everything worked first time, works everytime and if I have an issue with the vehicle/engine, I know that its not in the harness.? To me, taking that?factor out of the long equation of doing an engine conversion was well worth the expense.
________________________________ From: Todd <tschroeder0@...> To: subaruvanagon@... Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 11:26 AM Subject: [subaruvanagon] Wiring Harness instruction help ? Hi all, Just trying to narrow down where to start with my wiring harness. I have picked up a 2.2 from a 1997 Legacy (automatic) I called RMW where I will be getting my kit and was surprised to learn that they do not offer any instruction kit to do your own harness. Through a friend I have one of the KEP (I think this is where it's from) 6ft foldout layout instruction for the harness it says on the lower right hand corner : "Revision C, redrawn march 6, 1997" So my question is, do you think this will get me through? if not who's kit is the "best" to go with. This is my first time and I of course want to do it right. Is the small car "kit" for wiring worth the money? Just looking for some direction. Thank you all very much. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
hey John,
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Yeah, I appreciate that idea and point of view, but I am going to do it myself, I want the experience and the knowledge of knowing how the harness works.Thanks, Todd. --- On Tue, 4/3/12, John Charlton <jacharl@...> wrote:
From: John Charlton <jacharl@...> Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Wiring Harness instruction help To: "subaruvanagon@..." <subaruvanagon@...> Date: Tuesday, April 3, 2012, 9:44 AM ? When I did my 2.5 conversion a couple of years ago, I debated with myself over the harness, just as you are. In the end, although I felt capable of doing the harness myself, and considering all of the potential issues both prior to start up, at start up and thereafter when on the road, I decided that it was probably money well spent to have the guru of subaru, Tom Shiels , do the harness for me.? As expected, everything worked first time, works everytime and if I have an issue with the vehicle/engine, I know that its not in the harness.? To me, taking that?factor out of the long equation of doing an engine conversion was well worth the expense. ________________________________ From: Todd <tschroeder0@...> To: subaruvanagon@... Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 11:26 AM Subject: [subaruvanagon] Wiring Harness instruction help ? Hi all, Just trying to narrow down where to start with my wiring harness. I have picked up a 2.2 from a 1997 Legacy (automatic) I called RMW where I will be getting my kit and was surprised to learn that they do not offer any instruction kit to do your own harness. Through a friend I have one of the KEP (I think this is where it's from) 6ft foldout layout instruction for the harness it says on the lower right hand corner : "Revision C, redrawn march 6, 1997" So my question is, do you think this will get me through? if not who's kit is the "best" to go with. This is my first time and I of course want to do it right. Is the small car "kit" for wiring worth the money? Just looking for some direction. Thank you all very much. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Todd: I have some wiring diagrams available for you to review. I
don't have one that is specific to the 97 but believe that the 96 and 98 are the same as the 97. You'll need to print out the diagrams and compare each against your actual wiring to determine which is pertinent to your harness/engine. Once you have the diagram you'll need to review the components that are required to keep as part of the conversion (fuel pump relay, main relay, sensors, ecu, etc). Once you've identified those you'll have a marked up diagram that will indicate which wires you can cut out of your loom and which will be required to keep. From there on out its a process of laying out the components in such a manner as to approximate their location in the engine bay and routing the wires between the ecu and components or plugs. I use a plastic sheet which i've marked up with an outline of the engine bay and location of where the ecu will sit under the back seat that I lay on top of my work table. Then I start the process of laying down the wires and taping them temporarily to their route on the sheet. Finally, once i've got the wires run i start the process of cutting, soldering, and heat shrinking the wires. I triple check continuity of every circuit that requires connectivity using a multimeter before ever daring to believe i'm close to done with my splicing. I am fairly lame at electronics so make a habit of only loosely wrapping my modified harness before picking it up and laying it on the deck of the van being converted. Assuming that coolant, fuel, and air intake is all connected, connect to the engine harness, make connections to power and ignition in the black plastic junction box, connect the T7A barrel connector in the junction box, connect the fuel pump, battery/alternator connections, doublecheck your ground connects, and prepare yourself for a big grin when she fires up. Here's the diagrams i referred to: Send an email to Tom Shiels with your vanagon year and he'll kindly send you a copy of a diagram showing of the connections that are required in the black plastic junction box. Best of luck to you Brent -- Brent Weide Portland, Oregon www.weidefamily.net/vanagon/ |
hey brent,than you very much!! I was just on you site, so much good information. thank you for the schematics and additional info, i'll be looking at it hard.todd
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From: Brent Weide <brent.weide@...> Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Wiring Harness instruction help To: subaruvanagon@... Date: Tuesday, April 3, 2012, 10:05 AM ? Todd: I have some wiring diagrams available for you to review. I don't have one that is specific to the 97 but believe that the 96 and 98 are the same as the 97. You'll need to print out the diagrams and compare each against your actual wiring to determine which is pertinent to your harness/engine. Once you have the diagram you'll need to review the components that are required to keep as part of the conversion (fuel pump relay, main relay, sensors, ecu, etc). Once you've identified those you'll have a marked up diagram that will indicate which wires you can cut out of your loom and which will be required to keep. From there on out its a process of laying out the components in such a manner as to approximate their location in the engine bay and routing the wires between the ecu and components or plugs. I use a plastic sheet which i've marked up with an outline of the engine bay and location of where the ecu will sit under the back seat that I lay on top of my work table. Then I start the process of laying down the wires and taping them temporarily to their route on the sheet. Finally, once i've got the wires run i start the process of cutting, soldering, and heat shrinking the wires. I triple check continuity of every circuit that requires connectivity using a multimeter before ever daring to believe i'm close to done with my splicing. I am fairly lame at electronics so make a habit of only loosely wrapping my modified harness before picking it up and laying it on the deck of the van being converted. Assuming that coolant, fuel, and air intake is all connected, connect to the engine harness, make connections to power and ignition in the black plastic junction box, connect the T7A barrel connector in the junction box, connect the fuel pump, battery/alternator connections, doublecheck your ground connects, and prepare yourself for a big grin when she fires up. Here's the diagrams i referred to: Send an email to Tom Shiels with your vanagon year and he'll kindly send you a copy of a diagram showing of the connections that are required in the black plastic junction box. Best of luck to you Brent -- Brent Weide Portland, Oregon www.weidefamily.net/vanagon/ |
One additional note:
I've a layout sheet diagram which approximates the vanagon engine bay that can be transferred to a plastic or paper sheet that can help you with laying out your harness. Here it is: Here's a diagram showing component locations: Here's a diagram showing lengths/measurements between components/intersections in the harness: Note: The diagrams are stated as being pertinent to a 90-94 EJ22 but are also relevant to later model engines. brent -- Brent Weide Portland, Oregon www.weidefamily.net/vanagon/ |
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