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Wiring Harness instruction help


 

Hi all,

Just trying to narrow down where to start with my wiring harness.
I have picked up a 2.2 from a 1997 Legacy (automatic)

I called RMW where I will be getting my kit and was surprised to learn that they do not offer any instruction kit to do your own harness.

Through a friend I have one of the KEP (I think this is where it's from)
6ft foldout layout instruction for the harness it says on the lower right hand corner : "Revision C, redrawn march 6, 1997"

So my question is, do you think this will get me through? if not who's kit is the "best" to go with. This is my first time and I of course want to do it right. Is the small car "kit" for wiring worth the money?

Just looking for some direction. Thank you all very much.


John Charlton
 

When I did my 2.5 conversion a couple of years ago, I debated with myself over the harness, just as you are. In the end, although I felt capable of doing the harness myself, and considering all of the potential issues both prior to start up, at start up and thereafter when on the road, I decided that it was probably money well spent to have the guru of subaru, Tom Shiels , do the harness for me.? As expected, everything worked first time, works everytime and if I have an issue with the vehicle/engine, I know that its not in the harness.? To me, taking that?factor out of the long equation of doing an engine conversion was well worth the expense.



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From: Todd <tschroeder0@...>
To: subaruvanagon@...
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 11:26 AM
Subject: [subaruvanagon] Wiring Harness instruction help


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Hi all,

Just trying to narrow down where to start with my wiring harness.
I have picked up a 2.2 from a 1997 Legacy (automatic)

I called RMW where I will be getting my kit and was surprised to learn that they do not offer any instruction kit to do your own harness.

Through a friend I have one of the KEP (I think this is where it's from)
6ft foldout layout instruction for the harness it says on the lower right hand corner : "Revision C, redrawn march 6, 1997"

So my question is, do you think this will get me through? if not who's kit is the "best" to go with. This is my first time and I of course want to do it right. Is the small car "kit" for wiring worth the money?

Just looking for some direction. Thank you all very much.




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hey John,
Yeah, I appreciate that idea and point of view, but I am going to do it myself, I want the experience and the knowledge of knowing how the harness works.Thanks, Todd.

--- On Tue, 4/3/12, John Charlton <jacharl@...> wrote:

From: John Charlton <jacharl@...>
Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Wiring Harness instruction help
To: "subaruvanagon@..." <subaruvanagon@...>
Date: Tuesday, April 3, 2012, 9:44 AM
















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When I did my 2.5 conversion a couple of years ago, I debated with myself over the harness, just as you are. In the end, although I felt capable of doing the harness myself, and considering all of the potential issues both prior to start up, at start up and thereafter when on the road, I decided that it was probably money well spent to have the guru of subaru, Tom Shiels , do the harness for me.? As expected, everything worked first time, works everytime and if I have an issue with the vehicle/engine, I know that its not in the harness.? To me, taking that?factor out of the long equation of doing an engine conversion was well worth the expense.



________________________________

From: Todd <tschroeder0@...>

To: subaruvanagon@...

Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 11:26 AM

Subject: [subaruvanagon] Wiring Harness instruction help



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Hi all,



Just trying to narrow down where to start with my wiring harness.

I have picked up a 2.2 from a 1997 Legacy (automatic)



I called RMW where I will be getting my kit and was surprised to learn that they do not offer any instruction kit to do your own harness.



Through a friend I have one of the KEP (I think this is where it's from)

6ft foldout layout instruction for the harness it says on the lower right hand corner : "Revision C, redrawn march 6, 1997"



So my question is, do you think this will get me through? if not who's kit is the "best" to go with. This is my first time and I of course want to do it right. Is the small car "kit" for wiring worth the money?



Just looking for some direction. Thank you all very much.



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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


 

Todd: I have some wiring diagrams available for you to review. I
don't have one that is specific to the 97 but believe that the 96 and
98 are the same as the 97. You'll need to print out the diagrams and
compare each against your actual wiring to determine which is
pertinent to your harness/engine. Once you have the diagram you'll
need to review the components that are required to keep as part of the
conversion (fuel pump relay, main relay, sensors, ecu, etc). Once
you've identified those you'll have a marked up diagram that will
indicate which wires you can cut out of your loom and which will be
required to keep. From there on out its a process of laying out the
components in such a manner as to approximate their location in the
engine bay and routing the wires between the ecu and components or
plugs. I use a plastic sheet which i've marked up with an outline of
the engine bay and location of where the ecu will sit under the back
seat that I lay on top of my work table. Then I start the process of
laying down the wires and taping them temporarily to their route on
the sheet. Finally, once i've got the wires run i start the process
of cutting, soldering, and heat shrinking the wires.
I triple check continuity of every circuit that requires connectivity
using a multimeter before ever daring to believe i'm close to done
with my splicing.
I am fairly lame at electronics so make a habit of only loosely
wrapping my modified harness before picking it up and laying it on the
deck of the van being converted. Assuming that coolant, fuel, and air
intake is all connected, connect to the engine harness, make
connections to power and ignition in the black plastic junction box,
connect the T7A barrel connector in the junction box, connect the fuel
pump, battery/alternator connections, doublecheck your ground
connects, and prepare yourself for a big grin when she fires up.

Here's the diagrams i referred to:



Send an email to Tom Shiels with your vanagon year and he'll kindly
send you a copy of a diagram showing of the connections that are
required in the black plastic junction box.

Best of luck to you
Brent
--
Brent Weide
Portland, Oregon
www.weidefamily.net/vanagon/


 

hey brent,than you very much!! I was just on you site, so much good information. thank you for the schematics and additional info, i'll be looking at it hard.todd

--- On Tue, 4/3/12, Brent Weide <brent.weide@...> wrote:

From: Brent Weide <brent.weide@...>
Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Wiring Harness instruction help
To: subaruvanagon@...
Date: Tuesday, April 3, 2012, 10:05 AM
















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Todd: I have some wiring diagrams available for you to review. I

don't have one that is specific to the 97 but believe that the 96 and

98 are the same as the 97. You'll need to print out the diagrams and

compare each against your actual wiring to determine which is

pertinent to your harness/engine. Once you have the diagram you'll

need to review the components that are required to keep as part of the

conversion (fuel pump relay, main relay, sensors, ecu, etc). Once

you've identified those you'll have a marked up diagram that will

indicate which wires you can cut out of your loom and which will be

required to keep. From there on out its a process of laying out the

components in such a manner as to approximate their location in the

engine bay and routing the wires between the ecu and components or

plugs. I use a plastic sheet which i've marked up with an outline of

the engine bay and location of where the ecu will sit under the back

seat that I lay on top of my work table. Then I start the process of

laying down the wires and taping them temporarily to their route on

the sheet. Finally, once i've got the wires run i start the process

of cutting, soldering, and heat shrinking the wires.

I triple check continuity of every circuit that requires connectivity

using a multimeter before ever daring to believe i'm close to done

with my splicing.

I am fairly lame at electronics so make a habit of only loosely

wrapping my modified harness before picking it up and laying it on the

deck of the van being converted. Assuming that coolant, fuel, and air

intake is all connected, connect to the engine harness, make

connections to power and ignition in the black plastic junction box,

connect the T7A barrel connector in the junction box, connect the fuel

pump, battery/alternator connections, doublecheck your ground

connects, and prepare yourself for a big grin when she fires up.



Here's the diagrams i referred to:







Send an email to Tom Shiels with your vanagon year and he'll kindly

send you a copy of a diagram showing of the connections that are

required in the black plastic junction box.



Best of luck to you

Brent

--

Brent Weide

Portland, Oregon

www.weidefamily.net/vanagon/


 

One additional note:
I've a layout sheet diagram which approximates the vanagon engine bay
that can be transferred to a plastic or paper sheet that can help you
with laying out your harness.
Here it is:
Here's a diagram showing component locations:


Here's a diagram showing lengths/measurements between
components/intersections in the harness:


Note: The diagrams are stated as being pertinent to a 90-94 EJ22 but
are also relevant to later model engines.

brent


--
Brent Weide
Portland, Oregon
www.weidefamily.net/vanagon/