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Set Up my 16" - Test Cut
I rebuilt my 1969 16" x 6' lathe some years ago with help from Ted!? Thank you Ted!? I bought it from work around 1990 - they had bought it new in 1969.? But it was not in great shape.? Ted provided many new parts and even quite a bit of labor.? I had set it up in the old shop and it cut pretty good.
Built a new shop a little over 2 years ago and finally got around to taking a test cut.? Started about 0.001" per inch.? The worst part is around the chuck area (no surprise) but worst is around 0.002" per inch.? But over 17 inches, maximum deviation is 0.013" .? From 0 to 17" its 0.0011".? I don't know what is typical, but this will work just fine for most of my needs. What do you typically see from these lathes when? in nice shape? -- 1969 16" x 6' South Bend Lathe Garage full of old Mopars........ |
I'm not a lathe expert or a real machinist, but I'd guess your deviation is in the middle of the cut & likely from the shaft/work piece flexing. (can't read your measurements on my pc)? ?the guys in the know here will probably recommend a follow rest.
On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:00:55 PM CST, Mark Z via groups.io <bode528@...> wrote:
Having problems with zeroes! Worst is 0.0002" per inch.? Missed a zero there too!? Its late.............? LOL! -- 1969 16" x 6' South Bend Lathe Garage full of old Mopars........ |
For sure deflection is a problem in the middle so I discarded the numbers that I felt would have been affected.? But the number I stated included everything but the actual middle.
In retrospect if I was totally serious about this I would cut a 2 1/2" diameter 18" long piece of aluminum and use it to minimize deflection.? Might actually do that at some point.? I started the testing by only cutting a 1" wide cut at the ends.? Once I was happy with that I did a full cut to get a better profile and eliminate tool position error from the DRO. What do others do? -- 1969 16" x 6' South Bend Lathe Garage full of old Mopars........ |
For aligning a lathe, I use the process Blondihacks describes:? ? On Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 8:24?AM Mark Z via <bode528=[email protected]> wrote: For sure deflection is a problem in the middle so I discarded the numbers that I felt would have been affected.? But the number I stated included everything but the actual middle. |
Thank you Rogan!? That was very helpful in making me understand that I had a brain cramp.? I should of know better.? My tailstock center alignment was way off and really skewed my numbers.
I redid it with a 12" long 2 1/2" diameter aluminum bar without a center.? I did it just at the ends (9 inch measurement difference) and got it to measurement error.? I then skimmed the whole 9 inches and did a final cut taking 0.002" off the diameter.? Measured every inch over the 9 inches and every measurement was within measurement error (50 millionths of an inch or half a tenth).? I am shocked that its is that good. -- 1969 16" x 6' South Bend Lathe Garage full of old Mopars........ |
THANKS!!? that was the Best I've seem!!? Figures!!? It'd take a meticulous girl to show us how to get it done!!? lol
On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 10:59:32 AM CST, Rogan Creswick <creswick@...> wrote:
For aligning a lathe, I use the process Blondihacks describes:? ? On Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 8:24?AM Mark Z via <bode528=[email protected]> wrote: For sure deflection is a problem in the middle so I discarded the numbers that I felt would have been affected.? But the number I stated included everything but the actual middle. |
Assuming the twist is out of the bed here's an easy one to set the tailstock.
Say the diameter of the? quill in the tailstock is 1.4985 inches. Turn a short piece of metal in the chuck to that dimension. Put the tailstock at the far end and lock it down. Set up a dial indicator in a tool post and zero it on the piece you turned to 1.4985. Run the carriage down and put the indicator on the tailstock quill. It should read zero. Now you just tweak the tailstock alignment screws until it reads 0. You don't need an x feet long bar to work with, just a 1 inch stub of scrapbinium. |
开云体育.0002" taper sounds pretty good on a 55 year old machine.What are you trying to test because your setup has at least 5 variables? On 2/16/2024 11:00 PM, Mark Z via
groups.io wrote:
Having problems with zeroes! Worst is 0.0002" per inch.? Missed a zero there too!? Its late.............? LOL! |
Tailstock ram must also be level. You'll find a lot of tailstock bases worn on the front end from heavy handed operators shoving them around. You might have to shim it level and then you should shim it so the center is .0005"- .001" high. ?If you're only out 2/10's of a thou along the length of that bar....that's as good as that machine is going to be. It's not a Hardinge. Bill
On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 07:28:24 AM EST, Chips <sakr4360@...> wrote:
Assuming the twist is out of the bed here's an easy one to set the tailstock. Say the diameter of the? quill in the tailstock is 1.4985 inches. Turn a short piece of metal in the chuck to that dimension. Put the tailstock at the far end and lock it down. Set up a dial indicator in a tool post and zero it on the piece you turned to 1.4985. Run the carriage down and put the indicator on the tailstock quill. It should read zero. Now you just tweak the tailstock alignment screws until it reads 0. You don't need an x feet long bar to work with, just a 1 inch stub of scrapbinium. |
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