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Lathe ID


 

I'm not good at identifying old South Bends. A friend of mine has this lathe and another he will probably scrap. He already got rid of a tail stock. He was told it would cost to much to repair, but you can buy one of these other ones instead. I have not seen them in person yet and have no serial numbers off the bed. I can see it has the single tumbler gear box and looks to be a 9" but that's it for me. If you live in the Southern California area (Burbank) they will probably be available. I know you guys will know what this is. I do have a few other pictures but they don't show much.
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Bill From Socal


 

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Cost to repair is not a concern for many people.? If you do your own repairs the cost is much lower.? I traded off a lathe years ago that was missing the tailstock, could have made a much better deal with a tailstock of any condition.


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of William Nelson <wnnelson@...>
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2024 10:35 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Lathe ID
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I'm not good at identifying old South Bends. A friend of mine has this lathe and another he will probably scrap. He already got rid of a tail stock. He was told it would cost to much to repair, but you can buy one of these other ones instead. I have not seen them in person yet and have no serial numbers off the bed. I can see it has the single tumbler gear box and looks to be a 9" but that's it for me. If you live in the Southern California area (Burbank) they will probably be available. I know you guys will know what this is. I do have a few other pictures but they don't show much.
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Bill From Socal


 

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??? ??? If it was the guy selling " these other ones instead " telling im they can't be fixed I'd be lookin for a second opinion . More pics could help identify also he could post the pics over in SD forum on the Practical MAchinist forums .

animal

On 4/1/24 10:15 AM, Robert Bradley wrote:

Cost to repair is not a concern for many people.? If you do your own repairs the cost is much lower.? I traded off a lathe years ago that was missing the tailstock, could have made a much better deal with a tailstock of any condition.

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of William Nelson <wnnelson@...>
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2024 10:35 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Lathe ID
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I'm not good at identifying old South Bends. A friend of mine has this lathe and another he will probably scrap. He already got rid of a tail stock. He was told it would cost to much to repair, but you can buy one of these other ones instead. I have not seen them in person yet and have no serial numbers off the bed. I can see it has the single tumbler gear box and looks to be a 9" but that's it for me. If you live in the Southern California area (Burbank) they will probably be available. I know you guys will know what this is. I do have a few other pictures but they don't show much.
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Bill From Socal


 

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It looks like an 11 or 13-inch Series R from the mid 1930’s.

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Steve

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of William Nelson
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2024 11:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Lathe ID

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I'm not good at identifying old South Bends. A friend of mine has this lathe and another he will probably scrap. He already got rid of a tail stock. He was told it would cost to much to repair, but you can buy one of these other ones instead. I have not seen them in person yet and have no serial numbers off the bed. I can see it has the single tumbler gear box and looks to be a 9" but that's it for me. If you live in the Southern California area (Burbank) they will probably be available. I know you guys will know what this is. I do have a few other pictures but they don't show much.
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Bill From Socal


 

hey Steve, glad your still around. haven't seen much traffic from ya.?

On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 04:09:33 PM EDT, Steve Wells <wswells@...> wrote:


It looks like an 11 or 13-inch Series R from the mid 1930’s.

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Steve

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of William Nelson
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2024 11:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Lathe ID

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I'm not good at identifying old South Bends. A friend of mine has this lathe and another he will probably scrap. He already got rid of a tail stock. He was told it would cost to much to repair, but you can buy one of these other ones instead. I have not seen them in person yet and have no serial numbers off the bed. I can see it has the single tumbler gear box and looks to be a 9" but that's it for me. If you live in the Southern California area (Burbank) they will probably be available. I know you guys will know what this is. I do have a few other pictures but they don't show much.
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Bill From Socal


 

He has a picture of a serial number maybe. Pretty small number.?
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Bill From Socal


 

Here's the other pictures he sent.
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Bill From Socal


 

I thought we had a serial number data base. I don't see one.
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Bill From Socal


 

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18427 is around 1920.?
Serial numbers are in the Files section.?
SB Cronology. It’s an automated Xcel program.?

Jim B,

On Apr 1, 2024, at 11:35?PM, William Nelson <wnnelson@...> wrote:

?I thought we had a serial number data base. I don't see one.
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Bill From Socal

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Jim B


 

I see the error of my ways, I only looked at the first page and failed to notice the 2 and 3 at the bottom.
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Bill From Socal


 

I've been told the other lathe does not have any serial numbers on the bed, does this seem likely? I'm asking for pictures to confirm.
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Bill From Socal


 

OK here are the pictures for the outside lathe with no serial numbers or tail stock (anymore)
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Bill From Socal


 

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Looks like my 1922 15x8.? Apron, headstock same.? See attached photo and serial number pdf

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of William Nelson
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2024 10:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Lathe ID

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OK here are the pictures for the outside lathe with no serial numbers or tail stock (anymore)
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Bill From Socal


 

That first one looks a lot like my 1942 UD Heavy 10R, 199-Y. The giveaway between the 9/10K and the Heavy is that funky spindle lock handle on the tailstock, but the 11 had that as well. The dataplate should be on the gear cover on the left end. 10R was a 199 for engine, 8199 for toolroom; 187 for the 10L engine, 8187 for the 10L toolroom.


 

Now that we have an idea of size and age is there anybody in the Southern Califoria or (further away) that would be interested in these lathes. Do to the age and general condition the owner is not going to restore them. What he said was he will "turn them into beer money". I don't blame him. It seems harsh but scraping them is in his best intetest.?
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Bill From Socal


 

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I am sure he could get wine money if he took some parts off and sold them. Easy stuff, like the chuck, the tailstock, the motor, compound... nothing that require extensive effort.?

Can someone share the pics again. I can't find them anymore.?

Best Regards,
Andrei

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of William Nelson <wnnelson@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 4:13 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Lathe ID
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Now that we have an idea of size and age is there anybody in the Southern Califoria or (further away) that would be interested in these lathes. Do to the age and general condition the owner is not going to restore them. What he said was he will "turn them into beer money". I don't blame him. It seems harsh but scraping them is in his best intetest.?
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Bill From Socal


 

Much as I would love to, transport from CA to southern MO sight unseen (except for pics) is too rich for my blood. Can someone put them up on a local Craigslist or Marketplace for him? I'd really hate to see these get scrapped, there's a lot of life left there. Heck, my own 10R ought to be scrapped just because it's swaybacked beyond repair, but I'm still using it.

Nick