??? ??? Were those Viscounts Renyolds or Columbus tubing ?
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On 10/18/24 10:25 AM, david pennington
via groups.io wrote:
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Adam,
I'm sorry to learn you need
to sell your 9A. I know how I'd hate to part with my 9C!
Will you still be in the
group?
Will you still have your
hands in making things?
I ask out of 100% self
interest. I have a 1970s Viscount bicycle for which I need
to buy at least one bolt. The thread is English and only
available here for a king's ransom, if at all. I'd like to
have a "friend" on that side of the pond who'd help me
obtain them. I'm perfectly willing to not only cover the
actual cost, but also add remuneration for the effort
involved.
All the best,
Dave
David W. Pennington
Florida
720-442-3744
A change of circumstances means I need to sell my 9a
lathe, I'm not sure how many folks here are from the UK,
but I thought the decent thing to do would be to offer
it here first before heading to Ebay.
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If anyone is interested let me know and I can email
pics and info directly.
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I was never very active on the posting side , but as
I fear this will likely be the end of my Southend
ownership, this seems like an opportunity to thank all
those who have helped me over the years and maintain
this group, especially Jim B (thanks for the
leadscrew).?
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Regards
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Adam
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Neither, AFAIK. They advertise as “aerospace tubing” some variety of chrome-moly. And yes, I was a serious cyclist in the 70s-80s.
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Gary
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early 70's for me , the Campanologeo days , it was Italian or
nothing , except for Cinelli bars, neck & Brooks seats .
animal
On 10/18/24 4:54 PM, Gary Johnson via
groups.io wrote:
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Neither, AFAIK. They advertise as “aerospace tubing” some
variety of chrome-moly. And yes, I was a serious cyclist in the
70s-80s.
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Same for me Animal, but down here in Australia the Brooks seats were very expensive and I went for a leather covered nylon Italian made seat. It was terrific and need a lot less care and attention than the full leather Brooks. Cheers John ?
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From: SouthBendLathe@groups.io <SouthBendLathe@groups.io> On Behalf Of mike allen Sent: 19 October 2024 11:59 To: SouthBendLathe@groups.io Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] 9a for Sale in the UK , bike question? early 70's for me , the Campanologeo days , it was Italian or nothing , except for Cinelli bars, neck & Brooks seats . animal On 10/18/24 4:54 PM, Gary Johnson via groups.io wrote: Neither, AFAIK. They advertise as “aerospace tubing” some variety of chrome-moly. And yes, I was a serious cyclist in the 70s-80s.
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I have an early British Car.? Most of the fasteners I needed were available in the US at several suppliers.? But I have made quite a few on either my 9C or 10l.? My car uses mostly BSF (British Standard Fine) that’s an inch based thread with a 55 degree V. There are one or two Whitworth. That’s basically BSF, again a 55 degree v.? Machine screws are BA series. 47 degree V and sort of metric based.?
Most engine and Gearbox bolts are OLDER metric threads but with BSF hex heads.?
I suspect you may need BSCY, British Standard Cycle. Also called BSB. British Standard Brass. 55 degree V and 26 tpi.? Here is one UK source I have used.?
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Here is one of my projects.? In the gearbox was a locating screw holding a ground shaft in place. ? It had Metric threads, BSF Hex, and a locating nip on the end. ?TOP in Photo.?
I ordered a replacement from the usual sources. SECOND screw.? Note that this has a standard metric Hex and while it might do the job, it’s not acceptable.?
I was able to get a used screw (third) but wanting something a little stronger I decided to make once.?
I purchased 6” of Molly steel, turned the nib, chased the threads and milled, on my lathe, the correct hex.? BOTTOM screw.?
There have been many similar problems that an hour or two on my lathes have solved.?
You can do it.?
Jim B,
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Adam,
I ask out of 100% self
interest. I have a 1970s Viscount bicycle for which I need
to buy at least one bolt. The thread is English and only
available here for a king's ransom, if at all. I'd like to
have a "friend" on that side of the pond who'd help me
obtain them. I'm perfectly willing to not only cover the
actual cost, but also add remuneration for the effort
involved.
All the best,
Dave
David W. Pennington
Florida
720-442-3744
_._,_._,_
-- Jim B
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Whitworth should be BSC corse not Fine.?
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On Oct 21, 2024, at 4:40?PM, Jim_B <jim@...> wrote:
? I have an early British Car.? Most of the fasteners I needed were available in the US at several suppliers.? But I have made quite a few on either my 9C or 10l.? My car uses mostly BSF (British Standard Fine) that’s an inch based thread with a 55 degree V. There are one or two Whitworth. That’s basically BSF, again a 55 degree v.? Machine screws are BA series. 47 degree V and sort of metric based.?
Most engine and Gearbox bolts are OLDER metric threads but with BSF hex heads.?
I suspect you may need BSCY, British Standard Cycle. Also called BSB. British Standard Brass. 55 degree V and 26 tpi.? Here is one UK source I have used.?
?
Here is one of my projects.? In the gearbox was a locating screw holding a ground shaft in place. ? It had Metric threads, BSF Hex, and a locating nip on the end. ?TOP in Photo.?
I ordered a replacement from the usual sources. SECOND screw.? Note that this has a standard metric Hex and while it might do the job, it’s not acceptable.?
I was able to get a used screw (third) but wanting something a little stronger I decided to make once.?
I purchased 6” of Molly steel, turned the nib, chased the threads and milled, on my lathe, the correct hex.? BOTTOM screw.?
There have been many similar problems that an hour or two on my lathes have solved.?
You can do it.?
Jim B,
Adam,
I ask out of 100% self
interest. I have a 1970s Viscount bicycle for which I need
to buy at least one bolt. The thread is English and only
available here for a king's ransom, if at all. I'd like to
have a "friend" on that side of the pond who'd help me
obtain them. I'm perfectly willing to not only cover the
actual cost, but also add remuneration for the effort
involved.
All the best,
Dave
David W. Pennington
Florida
720-442-3744
-- Jim B
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??? ??? DO ya need any special gears like needed to do metric on
a USA? South Bend lathe ?
??? thanks
??? animal
On 10/21/24 1:40 PM, Jim_B wrote:
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I have an early British Car.?
Most of the fasteners I needed were available in the US at
several suppliers.?
But I have made quite a few on either my 9C or 10l.?
My car uses mostly BSF (British Standard Fine) that’s an inch
based thread with a 55 degree V. There are one or two Whitworth.
That’s basically BSF, again a 55 degree v.?
Machine screws are BA series. 47 degree V and sort of metric
based.?
Most engine and Gearbox bolts are OLDER metric threads but
with BSF hex heads.?
I suspect you may need BSCY, British Standard Cycle. Also
called BSB. British Standard Brass. 55 degree V and 26 tpi.?
Here is one UK source I have used.?
?
Here is one of my projects.?
In the gearbox was a locating screw holding a ground
shaft in place. ?
It had Metric threads, BSF Hex, and a locating nip on the
end. ?TOP in Photo.?
I ordered a
replacement from the usual sources. SECOND screw.?
Note that this has a
standard metric Hex and while it might do the job, it’s
not acceptable.?
I was able to get a
used screw (third) but wanting something a little stronger
I decided to make once.?
I purchased 6” of
Molly steel, turned the nib, chased the threads and
milled, on my lathe, the correct hex.?
BOTTOM screw.?
There have been many
similar problems that an hour or two on my lathes have
solved.?
You can do it.?
Jim B,
Adam,
I ask out of 100%
self interest. I have a 1970s Viscount bicycle for
which I need to buy at least one bolt. The thread is
English and only available here for a king's ransom,
if at all. I'd like to have a "friend" on that side
of the pond who'd help me obtain them. I'm perfectly
willing to not only cover the actual cost, but also
add remuneration for the effort involved.
All the best,
Dave
David W. Pennington
Florida
720-442-3744
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I restore old Simplex motorcycles which use a bunch of BSC hardware. ?This place has a good selection.
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For my 9C I had found both a 100 and 127 tooth gears. Separately not as a compound. I made a compound and that allows me to chase metric on it.?
There are several other pairs that work.? Yes you need a compound of some sort. BUT some metric are close.
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On Oct 21, 2024, at 4:49?PM, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:
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??? ??? DO ya need any special gears like needed to do metric on
a USA? South Bend lathe ?
??? thanks
??? animal
-- Jim B
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On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 04:49 PM, mike allen wrote:
? DO ya need any special gears like needed to do metric on a USA? South Bend lathe ?
??? thanks
??? animal
BSC is just 26 tpi with a 55 degree angle. Just need the correct insert or grind one in HSS.
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Thanks , I have teh 127 & 100 , so recko I'm set if the need
pops up
thanks
animal
On 10/21/24 2:03 PM, Jim_B wrote:
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For my 9C I had found both a 100 and 127 tooth gears. Separately
not as a compound. I made a compound and that allows me to chase
metric on it.?
There are several other pairs that work.?
Yes you need a compound of some sort. BUT some metric are
close.
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??? ??? DO ya need any special gears like needed to do
metric on a USA? South Bend lathe ?
??? thanks
??? animal
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Jim B
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Thanks . Fortunately I never has to do any rethreading back in
the day . I still kick myself for trading my Triumph Cub 40 years
back .
animal
On 10/21/24 2:19 PM, Rick wrote:
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On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 04:49 PM, mike allen wrote:
? DO ya need any special gears like needed to do metric on
a USA? South Bend lathe ?
??? thanks
??? animal
BSC is just 26 tpi with a 55 degree angle. Just need the
correct insert or grind one in HSS.
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