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A while back, okay almost 20 years ago, a friend worked at Jorgenson Steel in Denver.? You know how that mill oil on steel is...?? He and I and a roommate started a floor cleaning business and did the floors there at night.? They had a hand cleaner in the locker rooms that from what I recall was a green powder, not a liquid, and it worked with or without water and did not leave your hands slippery, greasy or stinky at all.? I'd forgotten about it until recently and cannot recall the name but it was amazing.? Anyone have any ideas on what it might be and if it's even still made?? It was not a typical household brand, more like an industrial supply type product you'd never see on a store shelf.
I see Mean Green that looks like a crumbly paste, but it looks different.? Any ideas?
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Nick,
It might been Kimberly-Clark (or Scott, same company now). Kimberly-Clark Professional Super Duty Hand Cleaner with Grit (no. 91388). The grit was fine plastic beads. The stuff WAS excellent hand cleaner.
It really dissolves grease. Rub into hands, rinse with a bit if water, keep rubbing, repeat. Your hands look like you are an office worker when done. Especially if you use a toothbrush, it is softer, gentler and gets at all the dirt.
It is no longer available. It had something in it that Californias law concerning cancer causing chemicals was identified.
91388 was used at Ford, where I worked at one time. I got some thru the rep that supplied Ford and from a local industrial supply house that was swallowed up by Grainger (and now I cannot buy from them).
I used to buy it in 4 one gallon cases (with pump on each gallon). I still have a gallon or two left. I use it sparingly, since there is no more left, anywhere else.
Regards, Dimitar
1a.
OT Maybe? Hand cleaners
From: Nick Andrews
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2023 14:54:31 PST
A while back, okay almost 20 years ago, a friend worked at Jorgenson Steel in Denver.? You know how that mill oil on steel is...?? He and I and a roommate started a floor cleaning business and did the floors there at night.? They had a hand cleaner in the locker rooms that from what I recall was a green powder, not a liquid, and it worked with or without water and did not leave your hands slippery, greasy or stinky at all.? I'd forgotten about it until recently and cannot recall the name but it was amazing.? Anyone have any ideas on what it might be and if it's even still made?? It was not a typical household brand, more like an industrial supply type product you'd never see on a store shelf.
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Can't put fine plastic beads in hand cleaner nowadays, as after passing through the sewage works, they end up in the ocean. The whole point of using plastic was that it is neutral bouyancy so didn't settle out in U bends in sinks etc. like sand does, and therefore it didn't settle out at the sewage works either, passing straight through into the river. They tend to use pumice dust nowadays.
In my work as an engineering consultant I have visited many industrial premises and therefore used many different hand cleaners supplied on site. One was a paste that needed a little water added before rubbing, but it worked well. No idea of the name, but it needed its own unique dispensers (pull a lever sideways). My railway now uses the best gel I have ever used, tiny quantities needed, and it is called Cherry Bomb. I suspect it of being a USA product?
Didn't that ex B movie actor who went on to become a B movie president advertise something called Boraxo? Never saw it in the UK. Was that any good?
When I was about 3 (1957 or so), I used to "help" my dad fix engines, cars etc. We didn't even have Swarfega then. Used to use scouring powder (Vim or Ajax) and he would rub one of my little hands between his great shovels of appendages and rub till I scarcely had any skin left. Alternatively, it was a petrol (I believe an alternative term may be "gasoline") bath.
And if you think steelworks mill oil is evil, get yourself a locomotive. Steam oil is typically 680 or 100 centistokes, and there is ash, soot & coal dust everywhere. Alternatively, if your thing is main line Diesel electric locos, the traction motor gear cases are lubricated with something even worse, that needs warming to dispense it. It used to be called Motak or Regent made a product called Crater. Leaks would hang down in strings underneath and if you were walking along a pit, the only remedy to walking into one was to cut off the affected hair. Of course, a less carcinogenic product is now substituted, as those were full of asphaltenes.
Eddie
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From: "Rangelov" <rangelov@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, 10 Mar, 23 At 16:21
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] OT Maybe? Hand cleaners
Nick,
It might been Kimberly-Clark (or Scott, same company now). Kimberly-Clark Professional Super Duty Hand Cleaner with Grit (no. 91388). The grit was fine plastic beads. The stuff WAS excellent hand cleaner.
It really dissolves grease. Rub into hands, rinse with a bit if water, keep rubbing, repeat. Your hands look like you are an office worker when done. Especially if you use a toothbrush, it is softer, gentler and gets at all the dirt.
It is no longer available. It had something in it that Californias law concerning cancer causing chemicals was identified.
91388 was used at Ford, where I worked at one time. I got some thru the rep that supplied Ford and from a local industrial supply house that was swallowed up by Grainger (and now I cannot buy from them).
I used to buy it in 4 one gallon cases (with pump on each gallon). I still have a gallon or two left. I use it sparingly, since there is no more left, anywhere else.
Regards, Dimitar
1a.
OT Maybe? Hand cleaners
From: Nick Andrews
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2023 14:54:31 PST
A while back, okay almost 20 years ago, a friend worked at Jorgenson Steel in Denver. You know how that mill oil on steel is... He and I and a roommate started a floor cleaning business and did the floors there at night. They had a hand cleaner in the locker rooms that from what I recall was a green powder, not a liquid, and it worked with or without water and did not leave your hands slippery, greasy or stinky at all. I'd forgotten about it until recently and cannot recall the name but it was amazing. Anyone have any ideas on what it might be and if it's even still made? It was not a typical household brand, more like an industrial supply type product you'd never see on a store shelf.
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Some places these days process their sewage into drinking water, and that is likely to become much more common.? In I think San Fran they at least used to us water hyacinth plants towards the end to suck all the nitrates out of the water.
Not sure about ads, but the best Pres of my lifetime was an actor. RIP, Ronnie!
Oh yeah, gasoline is a great parts cleaner!
I have (maybe crazy) aspirations of building a steam loco at some point.? Not full size but rideable...
Can't put fine plastic beads in hand cleaner nowadays, as after passing through the sewage works, they end up in the ocean. The whole point of using plastic was that it is neutral bouyancy so didn't settle out in U bends in sinks etc. like sand does, and therefore it didn't settle out at the sewage works either, passing straight through into the river. They tend to use pumice dust nowadays.
In my work as an engineering consultant I have visited many industrial premises and therefore used many different hand cleaners supplied on site. One was a paste that needed a little water added before rubbing, but it worked well. No idea of the name, but it needed its own unique dispensers (pull a lever sideways). My railway now uses the best gel I have ever used, tiny quantities needed, and it is called Cherry Bomb. I suspect it of being a USA product?
Didn't that ex B movie actor who went on to become a B movie president advertise something called Boraxo? Never saw it in the UK. Was that any good?
When I was about 3 (1957 or so), I used to "help" my dad fix engines, cars etc. We didn't even have Swarfega then. Used to use scouring powder (Vim or Ajax) and he would rub one of my little hands between his great shovels of appendages and rub till I scarcely had any skin left. Alternatively, it was a petrol (I believe an alternative term may be "gasoline") bath.
And if you think steelworks mill oil is evil, get yourself a locomotive. Steam oil is typically 680 or 100 centistokes, and there is ash, soot & coal dust everywhere. Alternatively, if your thing is main line Diesel electric locos, the traction motor gear cases are lubricated with something even worse, that needs warming to dispense it. It used to be called Motak or Regent made a product called Crater. Leaks would hang down in strings underneath and if you were walking along a pit, the only remedy to walking into one was to cut off the affected hair. Of course, a less carcinogenic product is now substituted, as those were full of asphaltenes.
Eddie
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From: "Rangelov" <rangelov@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, 10 Mar, 23 At 16:21
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] OT Maybe? Hand cleaners
Nick,
It might been Kimberly-Clark (or Scott, same company now). Kimberly-Clark Professional Super Duty Hand Cleaner with Grit (no. 91388). The grit was fine plastic beads. The stuff WAS excellent hand cleaner.
It really dissolves grease. Rub into hands, rinse with a bit if water, keep rubbing, repeat. Your hands look like you are an office worker when done. Especially if you use a toothbrush, it is softer, gentler and gets at all the dirt.
It is no longer available. It had something in it that Californias law concerning cancer causing chemicals was identified.
91388 was used at Ford, where I worked at one time. I got some thru the rep that supplied Ford and from a local industrial supply house that was swallowed up by Grainger (and now I cannot buy from them).
I used to buy it in 4 one gallon cases (with pump on each gallon). I still have a gallon or two left. I use it sparingly, since there is no more left, anywhere else.
Regards, Dimitar
1a.
OT Maybe? Hand cleaners
From: Nick Andrews
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2023 14:54:31 PST
A while back, okay almost 20 years ago, a friend worked at Jorgenson Steel in Denver. You know how that mill oil on steel is... He and I and a roommate started a floor cleaning business and did the floors there at night. They had a hand cleaner in the locker rooms that from what I recall was a green powder, not a liquid, and it worked with or without water and did not leave your hands slippery, greasy or stinky at all. I'd forgotten about it until recently and cannot recall the name but it was amazing. Anyone have any ideas on what it might be and if it's even still made? It was not a typical household brand, more like an industrial supply type product you'd never see on a store shelf.
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I read somewhere that if you live at the East of London (the original one) your perfectly drinkable tap water has neen through about 7 people before you.
(If we put OT at the start of a post, can we talk about anything at all that we might want to ramble about?)
Eddie
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Some places these days process their sewage into drinking water, and that is likely to become much more common.? In I think San Fran they at least used to us water hyacinth plants towards the end to suck all the nitrates out of the water.
Not sure about ads, but the best Pres of my lifetime was an actor. RIP, Ronnie!
Oh yeah, gasoline is a great parts cleaner!
I have (maybe crazy) aspirations of building a steam loco at some point.? Not full size but rideable...
Can't put fine plastic beads in hand cleaner nowadays, as after passing through the sewage works, they end up in the ocean. The whole point of using plastic was that it is neutral bouyancy so didn't settle out in U bends in sinks etc. like sand does, and therefore it didn't settle out at the sewage works either, passing straight through into the river. They tend to use pumice dust nowadays.
In my work as an engineering consultant I have visited many industrial premises and therefore used many different hand cleaners supplied on site. One was a paste that needed a little water added before rubbing, but it worked well. No idea of the name, but it needed its own unique dispensers (pull a lever sideways). My railway now uses the best gel I have ever used, tiny quantities needed, and it is called Cherry Bomb. I suspect it of being a USA product?
Didn't that ex B movie actor who went on to become a B movie president advertise something called Boraxo? Never saw it in the UK. Was that any good?
When I was about 3 (1957 or so), I used to "help" my dad fix engines, cars etc. We didn't even have Swarfega then. Used to use scouring powder (Vim or Ajax) and he would rub one of my little hands between his great shovels of appendages and rub till I scarcely had any skin left. Alternatively, it was a petrol (I believe an alternative term may be "gasoline") bath.
And if you think steelworks mill oil is evil, get yourself a locomotive. Steam oil is typically 680 or 100 centistokes, and there is ash, soot & coal dust everywhere. Alternatively, if your thing is main line Diesel electric locos, the traction motor gear cases are lubricated with something even worse, that needs warming to dispense it. It used to be called Motak or Regent made a product called Crater. Leaks would hang down in strings underneath and if you were walking along a pit, the only remedy to walking into one was to cut off the affected hair. Of course, a less carcinogenic product is now substituted, as those were full of asphaltenes.
Eddie
------ Original Message ------
From: "Rangelov" <rangelov@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, 10 Mar, 23 At 16:21
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] OT Maybe? Hand cleaners
Nick,
It might been Kimberly-Clark (or Scott, same company now). Kimberly-Clark Professional Super Duty Hand Cleaner with Grit (no. 91388). The grit was fine plastic beads. The stuff WAS excellent hand cleaner.
It really dissolves grease. Rub into hands, rinse with a bit if water, keep rubbing, repeat. Your hands look like you are an office worker when done. Especially if you use a toothbrush, it is softer, gentler and gets at all the dirt.
It is no longer available. It had something in it that Californias law concerning cancer causing chemicals was identified.
91388 was used at Ford, where I worked at one time. I got some thru the rep that supplied Ford and from a local industrial supply house that was swallowed up by Grainger (and now I cannot buy from them).
I used to buy it in 4 one gallon cases (with pump on each gallon). I still have a gallon or two left. I use it sparingly, since there is no more left, anywhere else.
Regards, Dimitar
1a.
OT Maybe? Hand cleaners
From: Nick Andrews
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2023 14:54:31 PST
A while back, okay almost 20 years ago, a friend worked at Jorgenson Steel in Denver. You know how that mill oil on steel is... He and I and a roommate started a floor cleaning business and did the floors there at night. They had a hand cleaner in the locker rooms that from what I recall was a green powder, not a liquid, and it worked with or without water and did not leave your hands slippery, greasy or stinky at all. I'd forgotten about it until recently and cannot recall the name but it was amazing. Anyone have any ideas on what it might be and if it's even still made? It was not a typical household brand, more like an industrial supply type product you'd never see on a store shelf.
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Best one I’ve found is Fast Orange. Seems to remove most anything. I’d be interested in other’s experiences ? Jim Setterberg ?
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"j.setterberg@..." <j.setterberg@...> writes: Best one I’ve found is Fast Orange. This is my go-to as well, and I'll add a trick I've learned: Do not get your hands wet first! * Turn on the water so it's ready. * Put Fast Orange on hands * Scrub FO into any oil/grease/dirt * NOW rinse * Wash any residue off with regular soap and water When I wet my hands before using the Fast Orange, it cleans no better than regular soap.
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I remember using Boraxo years ago.? When I was still working, our hand wash sink in the shop had dispensers for Boraxo powdered hand soap and it worked well.? It was a pale grey almost white powder.? I just looked it up on Amazon and it is really expensive ($50 a pound or so). When I was a kid visiting my grandparents, they kept a bar of Lava hand soap in the bathroom for grandpa (and me) use after we were out working all afternoon.? I think that I may have a partial can of Boraxo or similar powdered dry soap in a box in the garage.? I may look for it when it warms up.
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Yup,? only way to use it for serious stuff.?
On Fri, Mar 10, 2023, 1:41 PM DJ Delorie < dj@...> wrote: "j.setterberg@..." <j.setterberg@...> writes:
> Best one I’ve found is Fast Orange.
This is my go-to as well, and I'll add a trick I've learned:
? ?Do not get your hands wet first!
* Turn on the water so it's ready.
* Put Fast Orange on hands
* Scrub FO into any oil/grease/dirt
* NOW rinse
* Wash any residue off with regular soap and water
When I wet my hands before using the Fast Orange, it cleans no better
than regular soap.
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Way way back when I was a mechanic at a gas station in the?
70's we had a guy that would come by & suck all the old oil from our
underground tank & give gallons of hand cleaner in return . There was a
conversion how many gallons you would get for how many gallons of oil .
Best hand cleaner I ever used kinda like what Dimitar mentioned . Have
never found anything close . Now a days I keep spray bottles here &
there full of 409 , just spray & work in some & dry off . Works good
enough that I only use hand cleaner at the end of the day now .
??? ??? animal
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On 3/10/2023 8:21 AM, Rangelov wrote: Nick,
It might been Kimberly-Clark (or Scott, same company now). Kimberly-Clark Professional Super Duty Hand Cleaner with Grit (no. 91388). The grit was fine plastic beads. The stuff WAS excellent hand cleaner.
It really dissolves grease. Rub into hands, rinse with a bit if water, keep rubbing, repeat. Your hands look like you are an office worker when done. Especially if you use a toothbrush, it is softer, gentler and gets at all the dirt.
It is no longer available. It had something in it that Californias law concerning cancer causing chemicals was identified.
91388 was used at Ford, where I worked at one time. I got some thru the rep that supplied Ford and from a local industrial supply house that was swallowed up by Grainger (and now I cannot buy from them).
I used to buy it in 4 one gallon cases (with pump on each gallon). I still have a gallon or two left. I use it sparingly, since there is no more left, anywhere else.
Regards, Dimitar
1a.
OT Maybe? Hand cleaners
From: Nick Andrews
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2023 14:54:31 PST
A while back, okay almost 20 years ago, a friend worked at Jorgenson Steel in Denver.? You know how that mill oil on steel is...?? He and I and a roommate started a floor cleaning business and did the floors there at night.? They had a hand cleaner in the locker rooms that from what I recall was a green powder, not a liquid, and it worked with or without water and did not leave your hands slippery, greasy or stinky at all.? I'd forgotten about it until recently and cannot recall the name but it was amazing.? Anyone have any ideas on what it might be and if it's even still made?? It was not a typical household brand, more like an industrial supply type product you'd never see on a store shelf.
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??? ??? Yep 20 Mule Borax , Ronald? Reagan . The TV show was
called Death Valley Days . I had a model of the train , putting
together & gluing 20 mules , what fun .
??? ??? animal
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Can't put fine plastic beads in hand
cleaner nowadays, as after passing through the sewage works,
they end up in the ocean. The whole point of using plastic was
that it is neutral bouyancy so didn't settle out in U bends in
sinks etc. like sand does, and therefore it didn't settle out at
the sewage works either, passing straight through into the
river. They tend to use pumice dust nowadays.
In my work as an engineering consultant I have visited many
industrial premises and therefore used many different hand
cleaners supplied on site. One was a paste that needed a
little water added before rubbing, but it worked well. No
idea of the name, but it needed its own unique dispensers
(pull a lever sideways). My railway now uses the best gel I have
ever used, tiny quantities needed, and it is called Cherry
Bomb. I suspect it of being a USA product?
Didn't that ex B movie actor who went on to become a B
movie president advertise something called Boraxo? Never
saw it in the UK. Was that any good?
When I was about 3 (1957 or so), I used to "help" my dad
fix engines, cars etc. We didn't even have Swarfega then.
Used to use scouring powder (Vim or Ajax) and he would rub
one of my little hands between his great shovels of
appendages and rub till I scarcely had any skin left.
Alternatively, it was a petrol (I believe an alternative
term may be "gasoline") bath.
And if you think steelworks mill oil is evil, get
yourself a locomotive. Steam oil is typically 680 or 100
centistokes, and there is ash, soot & coal dust
everywhere. Alternatively, if your thing is main line
Diesel electric locos, the traction motor gear cases are
lubricated with something even worse, that needs warming
to dispense it. It used to be called Motak or Regent made
a product called Crater. Leaks would hang down in strings
underneath and if you were walking along a pit, the only
remedy to walking into one was to cut off the affected
hair. Of course, a less carcinogenic product is now
substituted, as those were full of asphaltenes.
Eddie
------ Original Message ------
From: "Rangelov" <rangelov@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, 10 Mar, 23 At 16:21
Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] OT Maybe? Hand cleaners
Nick,
It might been Kimberly-Clark (or Scott, same company now). Kimberly-Clark Professional Super Duty Hand Cleaner with Grit (no. 91388). The grit was fine plastic beads. The stuff WAS excellent hand cleaner.
It really dissolves grease. Rub into hands, rinse with a bit if water, keep rubbing, repeat. Your hands look like you are an office worker when done. Especially if you use a toothbrush, it is softer, gentler and gets at all the dirt.
It is no longer available. It had something in it that Californias law concerning cancer causing chemicals was identified.
91388 was used at Ford, where I worked at one time. I got some thru the rep that supplied Ford and from a local industrial supply house that was swallowed up by Grainger (and now I cannot buy from them).
I used to buy it in 4 one gallon cases (with pump on each gallon). I still have a gallon or two left. I use it sparingly, since there is no more left, anywhere else.
Regards, Dimitar
1a.
OT Maybe? Hand cleaners
From: Nick Andrews
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2023 14:54:31 PST
A while back, okay almost 20 years ago, a friend worked at Jorgenson Steel in Denver. You know how that mill oil on steel is... He and I and a roommate started a floor cleaning business and did the floors there at night. They had a hand cleaner in the locker rooms that from what I recall was a green powder, not a liquid, and it worked with or without water and did not leave your hands slippery, greasy or stinky at all. I'd forgotten about it until recently and cannot recall the name but it was amazing. Anyone have any ideas on what it might be and if it's even still made? It was not a typical household brand, more like an industrial supply type product you'd never see on a store shelf.
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To Eddie, ?
Boraxo works very well with grease, is based on a natural mineral, and is still available,?. ?I still have a some in the white plastic bottles that’s 30 years old.
?
Jack
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And Borax, by the same company, is widely used as brazing and soldering flux, and as a laundry additive. I buy a box every year or so, depending on how fast I use it up. Dad used to keep his in an old oatmeal container. You'd get the brazing rod hot, dunk it in the powdered Borax (sodium borate) and it would melt and coat the rod. Good stuff!
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)?
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 09:10:25 AM CST, Jack Jennings <jejennings@...> wrote:
To Eddie, ?
Boraxo works very well with grease, is based on a natural mineral, and is still available,?. ?I still have a some in the white plastic bottles that’s 30 years old.
?
Jack
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Hey Nick,
You never answered if the industrial hand cleaner that I mentioned is the same stuff that you were looking for.
On Friday, March 10, 2023, 09:21:15 AM MST, <rangelov@...> wrote:
Nick,
It might been Kimberly-Clark (or Scott, same company now). Kimberly-Clark Professional Super Duty Hand Cleaner with Grit (no. 91388).? The grit was fine plastic beads.? The stuff WAS excellent hand cleaner.
It really dissolves grease.? Rub into hands, rinse with a bit if water, keep rubbing, repeat.? Your hands look like you are an office worker when done.? Especially if you use a toothbrush, it is softer, gentler and gets at all the dirt.
It is no longer available.? It had something in it that Californias law concerning cancer causing chemicals was identified.
91388 was used at Ford, where I worked at one time.? I got some thru the rep that supplied Ford and from a local industrial supply house that was swallowed up by Grainger (and now I cannot buy from them).
I used to buy it in 4 one gallon cases (with pump on each gallon).? I still have a gallon or two left.? I use it sparingly, since there is no more left, anywhere else.
Regards, Dimitar
1a.
OT Maybe? Hand cleaners
From: Nick Andrews
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2023 14:54:31 PST
A while back, okay almost 20 years ago, a friend worked at Jorgenson Steel in Denver.? You know how that mill oil on steel is...?? He and I and a roommate started a floor cleaning business and did the floors there at night.? They had a hand cleaner in the locker rooms that from what I recall was a green powder, not a liquid, and it worked with or without water and did not leave your hands slippery, greasy or stinky at all.? I'd forgotten about it until recently and cannot recall the name but it was amazing.? Anyone have any ideas on what it might be and if it's even still made?? It was not a typical household brand, more like an industrial supply type product you'd never see on a store shelf.
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No,? this was something from a company I'd never heard of,? like a person's name but not a major brand of any kind.? Like maybe that was their only product.?
On Mon, Mar 13, 2023, 4:52 PM Rangelov < rangelov@...> wrote: Hey Nick,
You never answered if the industrial hand cleaner that I mentioned is the same stuff that you were looking for.
On Friday, March 10, 2023, 09:21:15 AM MST, < rangelov@...> wrote:
Nick,
It might been Kimberly-Clark (or Scott, same company now). Kimberly-Clark Professional Super Duty Hand Cleaner with Grit (no. 91388).? The grit was fine plastic beads.? The stuff WAS excellent hand cleaner.
It really dissolves grease.? Rub into hands, rinse with a bit if water, keep rubbing, repeat.? Your hands look like you are an office worker when done.? Especially if you use a toothbrush, it is softer, gentler and gets at all the dirt.
It is no longer available.? It had something in it that Californias law concerning cancer causing chemicals was identified.
91388 was used at Ford, where I worked at one time.? I got some thru the rep that supplied Ford and from a local industrial supply house that was swallowed up by Grainger (and now I cannot buy from them).
I used to buy it in 4 one gallon cases (with pump on each gallon).? I still have a gallon or two left.? I use it sparingly, since there is no more left, anywhere else.
Regards, Dimitar
1a.
OT Maybe? Hand cleaners
From: Nick Andrews
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2023 14:54:31 PST
A while back, okay almost 20 years ago, a friend worked at Jorgenson Steel in Denver.? You know how that mill oil on steel is...?? He and I and a roommate started a floor cleaning business and did the floors there at night.? They had a hand cleaner in the locker rooms that from what I recall was a green powder, not a liquid, and it worked with or without water and did not leave your hands slippery, greasy or stinky at all.? I'd forgotten about it until recently and cannot recall the name but it was amazing.? Anyone have any ideas on what it might be and if it's even still made?? It was not a typical household brand, more like an industrial supply type product you'd never see on a store shelf.
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I think that the problem with that product may have been those plastic beads.? In the last few years, micro-plastic not only have shown up in soil and water samples, but in farm animal flesh, and yes, in our own bodies. The health risks are not certain, yet, but our state govt errs on the conservative side there. ? ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Nick Andrews Sent: Monday, March 13, 2023 7:16 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] OT Maybe? Hand cleaners ? No,? this was something from a company I'd never heard of,? like a person's name but not a major brand of any kind.? Like maybe that was their only product.? ? On Mon, Mar 13, 2023, 4:52 PM Rangelov <rangelov@...> wrote: Hey Nick,
You never answered if the industrial hand cleaner that I mentioned is the same stuff that you were looking for. On Friday, March 10, 2023, 09:21:15 AM MST, <rangelov@...> wrote: It might been Kimberly-Clark (or Scott, same company now). Kimberly-Clark Professional Super Duty Hand Cleaner with Grit (no. 91388).? The grit was fine plastic beads.? The stuff WAS excellent hand cleaner. It really dissolves grease.? Rub into hands, rinse with a bit if water, keep rubbing, repeat.? Your hands look like you are an office worker when done.? Especially if you use a toothbrush, it is softer, gentler and gets at all the dirt. It is no longer available.? It had something in it that Californias law concerning cancer causing chemicals was identified. 91388 was used at Ford, where I worked at one time.? I got some thru the rep that supplied Ford and from a local industrial supply house that was swallowed up by Grainger (and now I cannot buy from them). I used to buy it in 4 one gallon cases (with pump on each gallon).? I still have a gallon or two left.? I use it sparingly, since there is no more left, anywhere else. Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2023 14:54:31 PST A while back, okay almost 20 years ago, a friend worked at Jorgenson Steel in Denver.? You know how that mill oil on steel is...?? He and I and a roommate started a floor cleaning business and did the floors there at night.? They had a hand cleaner in the locker rooms that from what I recall was a green powder, not a liquid, and it worked with or without water and did not leave your hands slippery, greasy or stinky at all.? I'd forgotten about it until recently and cannot recall the name but it was amazing.? Anyone have any ideas on what it might be and if it's even still made?? It was not a typical household brand, more like an industrial supply type product you'd never see on a store shelf.
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Locally there was a powdered soap made called Mione Hand Soap.? It was always in the powder soap dispensers over the big round wash sinks found in many machine shops.? I never used it dry but it might have worked.? As I recall it contained pulverized limestone for the grit and also lanolin.? Kind of like Boraxo.? Can't find a list of ingredients.
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When I was young growing up in my Dad's garage/ automotive machine shop/ auto parts,he used to get a big box of powdered hand cleaner called Pax Lano Sav.it really worked good.im not sure why we quit getting it but I think they quit making it?& we ended up with gojo.
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In 30 years of working in every type of industrial plant from vegetable oil processing and refining to foundries to a Michelin-Uniroyal-BFGoodrich?tire plant I got plenty dirty.? The vegetable oil refinery smelled the worst, the tire plant was the dirtiest especially if you worked on the rubber mix end where the ground up natural latex was mixed with oil and carbon black.? I worked a Christmas shutdown there once and spent 14 hours disconnecting instruments and pumps. I walked in shiny?clean at 6am 12/24 and walked out at 9pm.? I wondered why the cute lady security guard looked at me so funny when I?surrendered?my badge but went out to the truck for the hour drive home. When I looked in the rear view mirror I was totally coated in black oil sludge.? All you could see was the whites of my eyes and my teeth.? It took two hours in the shower and a quart of Pine Sol to get the crap off me and my 50 gallon HWH ran cold long before?I was finished.
I remember?that green power hand cleaner from some plant I worked at, maybe Kraft in Jacksonville, IL.? What I mostly remember?was Boraxo seemed to be everywhere, often teamed?with a GoJo type waterless cleaner.? I retired from electrical work 25 years ago. In my recent experience working in my own shop restoring?cars, building engines, machining and welding most of the modern hand cleaners are lacking in cleaning power.? I'm using Fast Orange hand cleaner with pumice powder, GoJo and a stiff scrub brush in my shop but have been considering buying a case of Boraxo cleaner for the shop.? I do try to use disposable gloves with mechanics gloves over them as much as I can since my skin tends to rip easily since I'm older.? But I do get engrossed in the work and forget the gloves a lot and refuse to wear?gloves around machinery or power tools.
James
When I was young growing up in my Dad's garage/ automotive machine shop/ auto parts,he used to get a big box of powdered hand cleaner called Pax Lano Sav.it really worked not sure why we quit getting it but I think they quit making it?& we ended up with gojo.
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??? ??? I started using Simple Green for hand cleaning . When I
get to the point that I need to clean up but not done wit the job
I just spray it on my hands? & work it like i was washing my
hands &
?? ???? then? dry off with paper towels . At the end of the
day/project then I use hand cleaner . I've save a ton of hand
cleaner in the last couple of years . I keep one spray bottle at
the lathe , one on each tool cart & one under the sink . I get
the 2 1/2 gallon jugs when their on sale , lasts a long time .
??? ??? I do remember at one of the gas stations I wrenched at in
the 70's we hag? bag of some green cleaner that we'd scoop a
handful of & wash our hands & at the end of the day we
spread some of it out on the floor & hit it with water &
scrub the floor with it . I'm not sure it really washed our hands
, I think it more then likely just removed the top layer of our
skin so it looked clean .
??? ??? ymmv
??? ??? animal
On 4/1/2023 11:33 AM, James Rice wrote:
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In 30 years of working
in every type of industrial plant from vegetable oil
processing and refining to foundries to a
Michelin-Uniroyal-BFGoodrich?tire plant I got plenty dirty.?
The vegetable oil refinery smelled the worst, the tire plant
was the dirtiest especially if you worked on the rubber mix
end where the ground up natural latex was mixed with oil and
carbon black.? I worked a Christmas shutdown there once and
spent 14 hours disconnecting instruments and pumps. I walked
in shiny?clean at 6am 12/24 and walked out at 9pm.? I wondered
why the cute lady security guard looked at me so funny when
I?surrendered?my badge but went out to the truck for the hour
drive home. When I looked in the rear view mirror I was
totally coated in black oil sludge.? All you could see was the
whites of my eyes and my teeth.? It took two hours in the
shower and a quart of Pine Sol to get the crap off me and my
50 gallon HWH ran cold long before?I was finished.
I remember?that green
power hand cleaner from some plant I worked at, maybe Kraft in
Jacksonville, IL.? What I mostly remember?was Boraxo seemed to
be everywhere, often teamed?with a GoJo type waterless
cleaner.? I retired from electrical work 25 years ago. In my
recent experience working in my own shop restoring?cars,
building engines, machining and welding most of the modern
hand cleaners are lacking in cleaning power.? I'm using Fast
Orange hand cleaner with pumice powder, GoJo and a stiff scrub
brush in my shop but have been considering buying a case of
Boraxo cleaner for the shop.? I do try to use disposable
gloves with mechanics gloves over them as much as I can since
my skin tends to rip easily since I'm older.? But I do get
engrossed in the work and forget the gloves a lot and refuse
to wear?gloves around machinery or power tools.
James
When
I was young growing up in my Dad's garage/ automotive machine
shop/ auto parts,he used to get a big box of powdered hand
cleaner called Pax Lano Sav.it really worked
not sure why we quit getting it but I think they quit making
it?& we ended up with gojo.
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Nick Andrews
W.D.Bill
James Rice