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I've been on a "git 'er done" home shop rampage for the last few weeks. Ran a dedicated 220 circuit to the garage. Learned how to bend half inch EMT and did that without screwing up a single piece of conduit. Got a 1hp Fuji VFD for the Bridgeport and a 3hp Fuji VFD for the 14.5" South Bend from the nice folks at Wolf Automation. Put up a nice belt drive garage door opener on the shop side of the garage this weekend. That's what is prompting me to write this post.
In the process of hanging the garage door opener, I had to drill a couple of holes in a piece of regular old angle iron. I was using a nothing fancy hand held DeWalt drill and the set of drill bits that I normally use for household tasks. The drill didn't seem to be working as quickly as I had expected, maybe because this drill and drill bits usually get put to work on wood and drywall. Anyway, I put the drill in reverse at one point to back out a drill bit. Chucked in a larger drill bit and went to open up the hole I was working on in the angle iron and the drill worked like total crap. It wouldn't drill worth two cents. I chucked in a bit one size smaller and got the same result. I went up to 5/16 of an inch on the drill size and that worked like crap too. After looking things over for a minute, I realized I had been working with the drill in reverse for the last few sizes I had attempted. AAAARGH!!! After a quick trip to the basement and a touch up of the drill bits on the bench grinder, I returned to the garage, put the drill in FORWARD, and drilled the holes in the angle iron as if it were made of butter. So, what's the moral of this story? Drink more coffee before picking up a hand drill? Don't work with my glasses all sweated up? Engage Brain before using tools? How many engineers does it take to drill a hole in a piece of angle iron? I have no idea, but I thought this would make some of you smile.
Thanks,
George H. Meinschein, P.E.
Firearm and Ballistics Engineering LLC
150 Brittany Drive
Freehold, NJ 07728
gmeinschein@...
Cell#: 732-580-1736
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On Sep 10, 2023, at 6:24 PM, George Meinschein via groups.io <gmeinschein@...> wrote:
?I've been on a "git 'er done" home shop rampage for the last few weeks. Ran a dedicated 220 circuit to the garage. Learned how to bend half inch EMT and did that without screwing up a single piece of conduit. Got a 1hp Fuji VFD for the Bridgeport and a 3hp Fuji VFD for the 14.5" South Bend from the nice folks at Wolf Automation. Put up a nice belt drive garage door opener on the shop side of the garage this weekend. That's what is prompting me to write this post.
In the process of hanging the garage door opener, I had to drill a couple of holes in a piece of regular old angle iron. I was using a nothing fancy hand held DeWalt drill and the set of drill bits that I normally use for household tasks. The drill didn't seem to be working as quickly as I had expected, maybe because this drill and drill bits usually get put to work on wood and drywall. Anyway, I put the drill in reverse at one point to back out a drill bit. Chucked in a larger drill bit and went to open up the hole I was working on in the angle iron and the drill worked like total crap. It wouldn't drill worth two cents. I chucked in a bit one size smaller and got the same result. I went up to 5/16 of an inch on the drill size and that worked like crap too. After looking things over for a minute, I realized I had been working with the drill in reverse for the last few sizes I had attempted. AAAARGH!!! After a quick trip to the basement and a touch up of the drill bits on the bench grinder, I returned to the garage, put the drill in FORWARD, and drilled the holes in the angle iron as if it were made of butter. So, what's the moral of this story? Drink more coffee before picking up a hand drill? Don't work with my glasses all sweated up? Engage Brain before using tools? How many engineers does it take to drill a hole in a piece of angle iron? I have no idea, but I thought this would make some of you smile.
Thanks,
George H. Meinschein, P.E.
Firearm and Ballistics Engineering LLC
150 Brittany Drive
Freehold, NJ 07728
gmeinschein@...
Cell#: 732-580-1736
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I'm going to self-righteously claim I have never, ever, ever done that. Sure I haven't. I wouldn't? lie to you about a thing like this :)
Much. ;). Try it with a 1/2" bit sometime. I think it's caffeine deficiency. Yeah sure! That's got to be it!
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 07:24:02 PM CDT, George Meinschein via groups.io <gmeinschein@...> wrote:
I've been on a "git 'er done" home shop rampage for the last few weeks. Ran a dedicated 220 circuit to the garage. Learned how to bend half inch EMT and did that without screwing up a single piece of conduit. Got a 1hp Fuji VFD for the Bridgeport and a 3hp Fuji VFD for the 14.5" South Bend from the nice folks at Wolf Automation. Put up a nice belt drive garage door opener on the shop side of the garage this weekend. That's what is prompting me to write this post.
In the process of hanging the garage door opener, I had to drill a couple of holes in a piece of regular old angle iron. I was using a nothing fancy hand held DeWalt drill and the set of drill bits that I normally use for household tasks. The drill didn't seem to be working as quickly as I had expected, maybe because this drill and drill bits usually get put to work on wood and drywall. Anyway, I put the drill in reverse at one point to back out a drill bit. Chucked in a larger drill bit and went to open up the hole I was working on in the angle iron and the drill worked like total crap. It wouldn't drill worth two cents. I chucked in a bit one size smaller and got the same result. I went up to 5/16 of an inch on the drill size and that worked like crap too. After looking things over for a minute, I realized I had been working with the drill in reverse for the last few sizes I had attempted. AAAARGH!!! After a quick trip to the basement and a touch up of the drill bits on the bench grinder, I returned to the garage, put the drill in FORWARD, and drilled the holes in the angle iron as if it were made of butter. So, what's the moral of this story? Drink more coffee before picking up a hand drill? Don't work with my glasses all sweated up? Engage Brain before using tools? How many engineers does it take to drill a hole in a piece of angle iron? I have no idea, but I thought this would make some of you smile.
Thanks,
George H. Meinschein, P.E.
Firearm and Ballistics Engineering LLC
150 Brittany Drive
Freehold, NJ 07728
gmeinschein@...
Cell#: 732-580-1736
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I suppose it's easy done. Not that I ever have, I think.
Back in September '73 when I started my British Rail sponsored Engineering degree course with 3 months in Derby carriage works apprentice school, the machining instructor regaled us with a wartime story. The railways were a reserved occupation then, so he had remained in the works as a machinist, mostly setting up capstan lathes for the large influx of initially unskilled female labour. One such managed to run an entire cycle with the spindle revolving backwards. The output product was to some extent recognisable... Needless to say, he had a bit more to do than a "quick touch up"!
Eddie
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Subject: [SouthBendLathe] Home shop adventures
I've been on a "git 'er done" home shop rampage for the last few weeks. Ran a dedicated 220 circuit to the garage. Learned how to bend half inch EMT and did that without screwing up a single piece of conduit. Got a 1hp Fuji VFD for the Bridgeport and a 3hp Fuji VFD for the 14.5" South Bend from the nice folks at Wolf Automation. Put up a nice belt drive garage door opener on the shop side of the garage this weekend. That's what is prompting me to write this post.
In the process of hanging the garage door opener, I had to drill a couple of holes in a piece of regular old angle iron. I was using a nothing fancy hand held DeWalt drill and the set of drill bits that I normally use for household tasks. The drill didn't seem to be working as quickly as I had expected, maybe because this drill and drill bits usually get put to work on wood and drywall. Anyway, I put the drill in reverse at one point to back out a drill bit. Chucked in a larger drill bit and went to open up the hole I was working on in the angle iron and the drill worked like total crap. It wouldn't drill worth two cents. I chucked in a bit one size smaller and got the same result. I went up to 5/16 of an inch on the drill size and that worked like crap too. After looking things over for a minute, I realized I had been working with the drill in reverse for the last few sizes I had attempted. AAAARGH!!! After a quick trip to the basement and a touch up of the drill bits on the bench grinder, I returned to the garage, put the drill in FORWARD, and drilled the holes in the angle iron as if it were made of butter. So, what's the moral of this story? Drink more coffee before picking up a hand drill? Don't work with my glasses all sweated up? Engage Brain before using tools? How many engineers does it take to drill a hole in a piece of angle iron? I have no idea, but I thought this would make some of you smile.
Thanks,
George H. Meinschein, P.E.
Firearm and Ballistics Engineering LLC
150 Brittany Drive
Freehold, NJ 07728
gmeinschein@...
Cell#: 732-580-1736
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The solution is simple. Use left hand drill bits. ?LOL.. Been there, done that Al-USA ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill in OKC too via groups.io Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2023 10:50 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Home shop adventures ? I'm going to self-righteously claim I have never, ever, ever done that. Sure I haven't. I wouldn't? lie to you about a thing like this :) Much. ;). Try it with a 1/2" bit sometime. I think it's caffeine deficiency. Yeah sure! That's got to be it! William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first. ? On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 07:24:02 PM CDT, George Meinschein via groups.io <gmeinschein@...> wrote: I've been on a "git 'er done" home shop rampage for the last few weeks. Ran a dedicated 220 circuit to the garage. Learned how to bend half inch EMT and did that without screwing up a single piece of conduit. Got a 1hp Fuji VFD for the Bridgeport and a 3hp Fuji VFD for the 14.5" South Bend from the nice folks at Wolf Automation. Put up a nice belt drive garage door opener on the shop side of the garage this weekend. That's what is prompting me to write this post.
In the process of hanging the garage door opener, I had to drill a couple of holes in a piece of regular old angle iron. I was using a nothing fancy hand held DeWalt drill and the set of drill bits that I normally use for household tasks. The drill didn't seem to be working as quickly as I had expected, maybe because this drill and drill bits usually get put to work on wood and drywall. Anyway, I put the drill in reverse at one point to back out a drill bit. Chucked in a larger drill bit and went to open up the hole I was working on in the angle iron and the drill worked like total crap. It wouldn't drill worth two cents. I chucked in a bit one size smaller and got the same result. I went up to 5/16 of an inch on the drill size and that worked like crap too. After looking things over for a minute, I realized I had been working with the drill in reverse for the last few sizes I had attempted. AAAARGH!!! After a quick trip to the basement and a touch up of the drill bits on the bench grinder, I returned to the garage, put the drill in FORWARD, and drilled the holes in the angle iron as if it were made of butter. So, what's the moral of this story? Drink more coffee before picking up a hand drill? Don't work with my glasses all sweated up? Engage Brain before using tools? How many engineers does it take to drill a hole in a piece of angle iron? I have no idea, but I thought this would make some of you smile.
Thanks,
George H. Meinschein, P.E.
Firearm and Ballistics Engineering LLC
150 Brittany Drive
Freehold, NJ 07728
gmeinschein@...
Cell#: 732-580-1736
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As I was leaving to run some Saturday morning errands years ago, I said good morning to the neighbor in his newly built garage as he was getting ready to put up a new garage door opener. Several hours later upon arriving home I walked over to see how he was progressing. He was having trouble drilling holes in the wood header and said he had just bought the drill bit the day before but he screwed up because he bought metal cutting bits instead of wood cutting bits. I looked around and at every place he had run a lag bolt into the wood to fasten the hardware was a blackened hole where the drill bit had burnt a hole in the wood. I politely told him the button on the drill would switch it into the correct direction. He was quite embarrassed to say the least but at least this last hole he was drilling went much easier. ?  
On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 08:24:51 AM EDT, ww_big_al <arknack@...> wrote:
The solution is simple. Use left hand drill bits. ?LOL.. Been there, done that Al-USA ?
From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill in OKC too via groups.io Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2023 10:50 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Home shop adventures ? I'm going to self-righteously claim I have never, ever, ever done that. Sure I haven't. I wouldn't? lie to you about a thing like this :) Much. ;). Try it with a 1/2" bit sometime. I think it's caffeine deficiency. Yeah sure! That's got to be it! William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first. ? On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 07:24:02 PM CDT, George Meinschein via groups.io <gmeinschein@...> wrote: I've been on a "git 'er done" home shop rampage for the last few weeks. Ran a dedicated 220 circuit to the garage. Learned how to bend half inch EMT and did that without screwing up a single piece of conduit. Got a 1hp Fuji VFD for the Bridgeport and a 3hp Fuji VFD for the 14.5" South Bend from the nice folks at Wolf Automation. Put up a nice belt drive garage door opener on the shop side of the garage this weekend. That's what is prompting me to write this post.
In the process of hanging the garage door opener, I had to drill a couple of holes in a piece of regular old angle iron. I was using a nothing fancy hand held DeWalt drill and the set of drill bits that I normally use for household tasks. The drill didn't seem to be working as quickly as I had expected, maybe because this drill and drill bits usually get put to work on wood and drywall. Anyway, I put the drill in reverse at one point to back out a drill bit. Chucked in a larger drill bit and went to open up the hole I was working on in the angle iron and the drill worked like total crap. It wouldn't drill worth two cents. I chucked in a bit one size smaller and got the same result. I went up to 5/16 of an inch on the drill size and that worked like crap too. After looking things over for a minute, I realized I had been working with the drill in reverse for the last few sizes I had attempted. AAAARGH!!! After a quick trip to the basement and a touch up of the drill bits on the bench grinder, I returned to the garage, put the drill in FORWARD, and drilled the holes in the angle iron as if it were made of butter. So, what's the moral of this story? Drink more coffee before picking up a hand drill? Don't work with my glasses all sweated up? Engage Brain before using tools? How many engineers does it take to drill a hole in a piece of angle iron? I have no idea, but I thought this would make some of you smile.
Thanks,
George H. Meinschein, P.E.
Firearm and Ballistics Engineering LLC
150 Brittany Drive
Freehold, NJ 07728
gmeinschein@...
Cell#: 732-580-1736
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OH, yes. This was good , made me smile and laugh a little . I am sure we have all done stuff like that. I know I have! Peace out and ?? up to more coffee, maybe even a bourbon!
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On Sep 11, 2023, at 5:24 AM, ww_big_al <arknack@...> wrote:
? The solution is simple. Use left hand drill bits. ?LOL.. Been there, done that Al-USA ? ? I'm going to self-righteously claim I have never, ever, ever done that. Sure I haven't. I wouldn't? lie to you about a thing like this :) Much. ;). Try it with a 1/2" bit sometime. I think it's caffeine deficiency. Yeah sure! That's got to be it! William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first. ? On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 07:24:02 PM CDT, George Meinschein via groups.io <gmeinschein@...> wrote: I've been on a "git 'er done" home shop rampage for the last few weeks. Ran a dedicated 220 circuit to the garage. Learned how to bend half inch EMT and did that without screwing up a single piece of conduit. Got a 1hp Fuji VFD for the Bridgeport and a 3hp Fuji VFD for the 14.5" South Bend from the nice folks at Wolf Automation. Put up a nice belt drive garage door opener on the shop side of the garage this weekend. That's what is prompting me to write this post.
In the process of hanging the garage door opener, I had to drill a couple of holes in a piece of regular old angle iron. I was using a nothing fancy hand held DeWalt drill and the set of drill bits that I normally use for household tasks. The drill didn't seem to be working as quickly as I had expected, maybe because this drill and drill bits usually get put to work on wood and drywall. Anyway, I put the drill in reverse at one point to back out a drill bit. Chucked in a larger drill bit and went to open up the hole I was working on in the angle iron and the drill worked like total crap. It wouldn't drill worth two cents. I chucked in a bit one size smaller and got the same result. I went up to 5/16 of an inch on the drill size and that worked like crap too. After looking things over for a minute, I realized I had been working with the drill in reverse for the last few sizes I had attempted. AAAARGH!!! After a quick trip to the basement and a touch up of the drill bits on the bench grinder, I returned to the garage, put the drill in FORWARD, and drilled the holes in the angle iron as if it were made of butter. So, what's the moral of this story? Drink more coffee before picking up a hand drill? Don't work with my glasses all sweated up? Engage Brain before using tools? How many engineers does it take to drill a hole in a piece of angle iron? I have no idea, but I thought this would make some of you smile.
Thanks,
George H. Meinschein, P.E.
Firearm and Ballistics Engineering LLC
150 Brittany Drive
Freehold, NJ 07728
gmeinschein@...
Cell#: 732-580-1736
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My limited experience says bourbon and wrenches don't mix. Too much caffeine can also be a problem, though it's less likely to affect your judgment to the extent too much bourbon does. ;)? I'm not a drinker of that sort of thing, 'cause I'm a cheap drunk, and of course your mileage may vary!
I have LH drill sets. You can get the same effect with them if you don't switch the drill to reverse. DAMHIK. ;)
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 04:29:32 PM CDT, RJ White via groups.io <soilrelocator@...> wrote:
OH, yes. This was good , made me smile and laugh a little . I am sure we have all done stuff like that. I know I have! Peace out and ?? up to more coffee, maybe even a bourbon! On Sep 11, 2023, at 5:24 AM, ww_big_al <arknack@...> wrote:
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The solution is simple. Use left hand drill bits. ?LOL.. Been there, done that Al-USA ? ? I'm going to self-righteously claim I have never, ever, ever done that. Sure I haven't. I wouldn't? lie to you about a thing like this :) Much. ;). Try it with a 1/2" bit sometime. I think it's caffeine deficiency. Yeah sure! That's got to be it! William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first. ? On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 07:24:02 PM CDT, George Meinschein via groups.io <gmeinschein@...> wrote: I've been on a "git 'er done" home shop rampage for the last few weeks. Ran a dedicated 220 circuit to the garage. Learned how to bend half inch EMT and did that without screwing up a single piece of conduit. Got a 1hp Fuji VFD for the Bridgeport and a 3hp Fuji VFD for the 14.5" South Bend from the nice folks at Wolf Automation. Put up a nice belt drive garage door opener on the shop side of the garage this weekend. That's what is prompting me to write this post.
In the process of hanging the garage door opener, I had to drill a couple of holes in a piece of regular old angle iron. I was using a nothing fancy hand held DeWalt drill and the set of drill bits that I normally use for household tasks. The drill didn't seem to be working as quickly as I had expected, maybe because this drill and drill bits usually get put to work on wood and drywall. Anyway, I put the drill in reverse at one point to back out a drill bit. Chucked in a larger drill bit and went to open up the hole I was working on in the angle iron and the drill worked like total crap. It wouldn't drill worth two cents. I chucked in a bit one size smaller and got the same result. I went up to 5/16 of an inch on the drill size and that worked like crap too. After looking things over for a minute, I realized I had been working with the drill in reverse for the last few sizes I had attempted. AAAARGH!!! After a quick trip to the basement and a touch up of the drill bits on the bench grinder, I returned to the garage, put the drill in FORWARD, and drilled the holes in the angle iron as if it were made of butter. So, what's the moral of this story? Drink more coffee before picking up a hand drill? Don't work with my glasses all sweated up? Engage Brain before using tools? How many engineers does it take to drill a hole in a piece of angle iron? I have no idea, but I thought this would make some of you smile.
Thanks,
George H. Meinschein, P.E.
Firearm and Ballistics Engineering LLC
150 Brittany Drive
Freehold, NJ 07728
gmeinschein@...
Cell#: 732-580-1736
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I lent my brother my worm drive skillsaw so he could do some remodeling work. He brought it back and said it was no good and downright dangerous. It jumped and smoked and wouldn't cut and he had gone and bought a new el-cheapo circular saw and it was much better. I opened the carrying case and noticed a brand new blade installed backwards in my saw. When I asked him he said "oh yeah, I put that in before I started to make sure I got clean cuts".
On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 10:32:42 AM EDT, Richard Wanke <r.wanke@...> wrote:
As I was leaving to run some Saturday morning errands years ago, I said good morning to the neighbor in his newly built garage as he was getting ready to put up a new garage door opener. Several hours later upon arriving home I walked over to see how he was progressing. He was having trouble drilling holes in the wood header and said he had just bought the drill bit the day before but he screwed up because he bought metal cutting bits instead of wood cutting bits. I looked around and at every place he had run a lag bolt into the wood to fasten the hardware was a blackened hole where the drill bit had burnt a hole in the wood. I politely told him the button on the drill would switch it into the correct direction. He was quite embarrassed to say the least but at least this last hole he was drilling went much easier. ?
On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 08:24:51 AM EDT, ww_big_al <arknack@...> wrote:
The solution is simple. Use left hand drill bits. ?LOL.. Been there, done that Al-USA ?
From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill in OKC too via groups.io Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2023 10:50 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [SouthBendLathe] Home shop adventures ? I'm going to self-righteously claim I have never, ever, ever done that. Sure I haven't. I wouldn't? lie to you about a thing like this :) Much. ;). Try it with a 1/2" bit sometime. I think it's caffeine deficiency. Yeah sure! That's got to be it! William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first. ? On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 07:24:02 PM CDT, George Meinschein via groups.io <gmeinschein@...> wrote: I've been on a "git 'er done" home shop rampage for the last few weeks. Ran a dedicated 220 circuit to the garage. Learned how to bend half inch EMT and did that without screwing up a single piece of conduit. Got a 1hp Fuji VFD for the Bridgeport and a 3hp Fuji VFD for the 14.5" South Bend from the nice folks at Wolf Automation. Put up a nice belt drive garage door opener on the shop side of the garage this weekend. That's what is prompting me to write this post.
In the process of hanging the garage door opener, I had to drill a couple of holes in a piece of regular old angle iron. I was using a nothing fancy hand held DeWalt drill and the set of drill bits that I normally use for household tasks. The drill didn't seem to be working as quickly as I had expected, maybe because this drill and drill bits usually get put to work on wood and drywall. Anyway, I put the drill in reverse at one point to back out a drill bit. Chucked in a larger drill bit and went to open up the hole I was working on in the angle iron and the drill worked like total crap. It wouldn't drill worth two cents. I chucked in a bit one size smaller and got the same result. I went up to 5/16 of an inch on the drill size and that worked like crap too. After looking things over for a minute, I realized I had been working with the drill in reverse for the last few sizes I had attempted. AAAARGH!!! After a quick trip to the basement and a touch up of the drill bits on the bench grinder, I returned to the garage, put the drill in FORWARD, and drilled the holes in the angle iron as if it were made of butter. So, what's the moral of this story? Drink more coffee before picking up a hand drill? Don't work with my glasses all sweated up? Engage Brain before using tools? How many engineers does it take to drill a hole in a piece of angle iron? I have no idea, but I thought this would make some of you smile.
Thanks,
George H. Meinschein, P.E.
Firearm and Ballistics Engineering LLC
150 Brittany Drive
Freehold, NJ 07728
gmeinschein@...
Cell#: 732-580-1736
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Hmmmm
Does using a 1/2" end mill in a mill/drill count..?? I melted a bit of aluminum (wondering how "dull" the end mill was)...
Mea culpa.
DBN, aka John
On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 08:24:03 PM EDT, George Meinschein via groups.io <gmeinschein@...> wrote:
I've been on a "git 'er done" home shop rampage for the last few weeks. Ran a dedicated 220 circuit to the garage. Learned how to bend half inch EMT and did that without screwing up a single piece of conduit. Got a 1hp Fuji VFD for the Bridgeport and a 3hp Fuji VFD for the 14.5" South Bend from the nice folks at Wolf Automation. Put up a nice belt drive garage door opener on the shop side of the garage this weekend. That's what is prompting me to write this post.
In the process of hanging the garage door opener, I had to drill a couple of holes in a piece of regular old angle iron. I was using a nothing fancy hand held DeWalt drill and the set of drill bits that I normally use for household tasks. The drill didn't seem to be working as quickly as I had expected, maybe because this drill and drill bits usually get put to work on wood and drywall. Anyway, I put the drill in reverse at one point to back out a drill bit. Chucked in a larger drill bit and went to open up the hole I was working on in the angle iron and the drill worked like total crap. It wouldn't drill worth two cents. I chucked in a bit one size smaller and got the same result. I went up to 5/16 of an inch on the drill size and that worked like crap too. After looking things over for a minute, I realized I had been working with the drill in reverse for the last few sizes I had attempted. AAAARGH!!! After a quick trip to the basement and a touch up of the drill bits on the bench grinder, I returned to the garage, put the drill in FORWARD, and drilled the holes in the angle iron as if it were made of butter. So, what's the moral of this story? Drink more coffee before picking up a hand drill? Don't work with my glasses all sweated up? Engage Brain before using tools? How many engineers does it take to drill a hole in a piece of angle iron? I have no idea, but I thought this would make some of you smile.
Thanks,
George H. Meinschein, P.E.
Firearm and Ballistics Engineering LLC
150 Brittany Drive
Freehold, NJ 07728
gmeinschein@...
Cell#: 732-580-1736
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-George M.
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I do like a good strong whiskey, or bourbon. I agree, using machines, machinery, or driving while under the influence is not good it was said tongue-in-cheek. I hope it came across that way. Peace, love joy to you all and happy machining.
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On Sep 11, 2023, at 4:42 PM, druid_noibn via groups.io <druid_noibn@...> wrote:
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Hmmmm
Does using a 1/2" end mill in a mill/drill count..?? I melted a bit of aluminum (wondering how "dull" the end mill was)...
Mea culpa.
DBN, aka John
On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 08:24:03 PM EDT, George Meinschein via groups.io <gmeinschein@...> wrote:
I've been on a "git 'er done" home shop rampage for the last few weeks. Ran a dedicated 220 circuit to the garage. Learned how to bend half inch EMT and did that without screwing up a single piece of conduit. Got a 1hp Fuji VFD for the Bridgeport and a 3hp Fuji VFD for the 14.5" South Bend from the nice folks at Wolf Automation. Put up a nice belt drive garage door opener on the shop side of the garage this weekend. That's what is prompting me to write this post.
In the process of hanging the garage door opener, I had to drill a couple of holes in a piece of regular old angle iron. I was using a nothing fancy hand held DeWalt drill and the set of drill bits that I normally use for household tasks. The drill didn't seem to be working as quickly as I had expected, maybe because this drill and drill bits usually get put to work on wood and drywall. Anyway, I put the drill in reverse at one point to back out a drill bit. Chucked in a larger drill bit and went to open up the hole I was working on in the angle iron and the drill worked like total crap. It wouldn't drill worth two cents. I chucked in a bit one size smaller and got the same result. I went up to 5/16 of an inch on the drill size and that worked like crap too. After looking things over for a minute, I realized I had been working with the drill in reverse for the last few sizes I had attempted. AAAARGH!!! After a quick trip to the basement and a touch up of the drill bits on the bench grinder, I returned to the garage, put the drill in FORWARD, and drilled the holes in the angle iron as if it were made of butter. So, what's the moral of this story? Drink more coffee before picking up a hand drill? Don't work with my glasses all sweated up? Engage Brain before using tools? How many engineers does it take to drill a hole in a piece of angle iron? I have no idea, but I thought this would make some of you smile.
Thanks,
George H. Meinschein, P.E.
Firearm and Ballistics Engineering LLC
150 Brittany Drive
Freehold, NJ 07728
gmeinschein@...
Cell#: 732-580-1736
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to quote..."I do like a good strong whiskey, or bourbon...."
Indeed, a wonderful thought and practice... don't drive <smile>
Be well and be safe - we all need each other.
DBN aka John
On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 08:00:06 PM EDT, RJ White via groups.io <soilrelocator@...> wrote:
I do like a good strong whiskey, or bourbon. I agree, using machines, machinery, or driving while under the influence is not good it was said tongue-in-cheek. I hope it came across that way. Peace, love joy to you all and happy machining.
On Sep 11, 2023, at 4:42 PM, druid_noibn via groups.io <druid_noibn@...> wrote:
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Hmmmm
Does using a 1/2" end mill in a mill/drill count..?? I melted a bit of aluminum (wondering how "dull" the end mill was)...
Mea culpa.
DBN, aka John
On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 08:24:03 PM EDT, George Meinschein via groups.io <gmeinschein@...> wrote:
I've been on a "git 'er done" home shop rampage for the last few weeks. Ran a dedicated 220 circuit to the garage. Learned how to bend half inch EMT and did that without screwing up a single piece of conduit. Got a 1hp Fuji VFD for the Bridgeport and a 3hp Fuji VFD for the 14.5" South Bend from the nice folks at Wolf Automation. Put up a nice belt drive garage door opener on the shop side of the garage this weekend. That's what is prompting me to write this post.
In the process of hanging the garage door opener, I had to drill a couple of holes in a piece of regular old angle iron. I was using a nothing fancy hand held DeWalt drill and the set of drill bits that I normally use for household tasks. The drill didn't seem to be working as quickly as I had expected, maybe because this drill and drill bits usually get put to work on wood and drywall. Anyway, I put the drill in reverse at one point to back out a drill bit. Chucked in a larger drill bit and went to open up the hole I was working on in the angle iron and the drill worked like total crap. It wouldn't drill worth two cents. I chucked in a bit one size smaller and got the same result. I went up to 5/16 of an inch on the drill size and that worked like crap too. After looking things over for a minute, I realized I had been working with the drill in reverse for the last few sizes I had attempted. AAAARGH!!! After a quick trip to the basement and a touch up of the drill bits on the bench grinder, I returned to the garage, put the drill in FORWARD, and drilled the holes in the angle iron as if it were made of butter. So, what's the moral of this story? Drink more coffee before picking up a hand drill? Don't work with my glasses all sweated up? Engage Brain before using tools? How many engineers does it take to drill a hole in a piece of angle iron? I have no idea, but I thought this would make some of you smile.
Thanks,
George H. Meinschein, P.E.
Firearm and Ballistics Engineering LLC
150 Brittany Drive
Freehold, NJ 07728
gmeinschein@...
Cell#: 732-580-1736
Sent from Proton Mail mobile
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-George M.
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Ya can cut metal roofing & some sheet metal with a saw blade on backwards ,it's a lot more common then most folks would think . I even saw a guy use a chain saw with the chain on backwards .
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In a similar vein, when I was in college and was visiting my
girlfriend her father was doing some remodeling.? We stopped in to
see how he was doing and he proudly showed me his shiny new piece
of junk circular saw.? I asked what had become of his old high
quality Craftsman saw.? Aw that old piece of junk was giving up
the ghost it got hot and started smoking.? I asked if it still ran
and he said yeah you can have it if you want it.? I figured there
couldn't be too much wrong with it and took it home to my mom's
and set it aside until I had an opportunity to open it up and take
a look.? A couple of my mom's oldest friends came to visit and
stayed a few days.? Mr. Brady had been a shop teacher for years
and mentored me in the ways of woodworking when I was a kid.? I
came home from work one night and Mr. Brady took me aside to give
me a Dutch uncle speech.? He told me I should be ashamed for
having done that to a saw blade and then left it on the saw.? I
was puzzled and took a while to figure out that he had found the
saw in the garage and tried to use it.? He said I should know
better than to try to cut through wood that was full of nails and
tear up a blade like that.? I told him I had never even plugged it
in because it supposedly had a bad motor that was barely
running.?? He laughed and said there is nothing wrong with that
motor but the blade has been destroyed!? The local Skil repair
center had a promotion where you could trade in any blade and get
a new one for $1.? I did and still have the saw after more than 50
years and it is still running fine!
Jack
On 9/11/2023 7:26 PM, d6crawler via
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I lent my brother my worm
drive skillsaw so he could do some remodeling work. He brought
it back and said it was no good and downright dangerous. It
jumped and smoked and wouldn't cut and he had gone and bought
a new el-cheapo circular saw and it was much better. I opened
the carrying case and noticed a brand new blade installed
backwards in my saw. When I asked him he said "oh yeah, I put
that in before I started to make sure I got clean cuts".
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I had a uncle like that , best dam'n door hanger I've ever seen .
I've had so many people throughout the years tellin me how
dangerous my? worm 77 is . I usually shut them up by showin them
that the blade is on the? side ya can see , thin I finish off with
what side is the blade on on yer sidewinder . Except for my Dewalt
cordless tools I don't think I have any power tools newer that
1984 & that's the newest by several years . I can cut mus
straighter with the 77 than I ever could do with a sidewinder . I
lied , I forgot I have a handful of newer 4" angle grinders .
animal
On 9/11/23 8:20 PM, Jack Reynolds
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In a similar vein, when I was in college and was visiting my
girlfriend her father was doing some remodeling.? We stopped in
to see how he was doing and he proudly showed me his shiny new
piece of junk circular saw.? I asked what had become of his old
high quality Craftsman saw.? Aw that old piece of junk was
giving up the ghost it got hot and started smoking.? I asked if
it still ran and he said yeah you can have it if you want it.? I
figured there couldn't be too much wrong with it and took it
home to my mom's and set it aside until I had an opportunity to
open it up and take a look.? A couple of my mom's oldest friends
came to visit and stayed a few days.? Mr. Brady had been a shop
teacher for years and mentored me in the ways of woodworking
when I was a kid.? I came home from work one night and Mr. Brady
took me aside to give me a Dutch uncle speech.? He told me I
should be ashamed for having done that to a saw blade and then
left it on the saw.? I was puzzled and took a while to figure
out that he had found the saw in the garage and tried to use
it.? He said I should know better than to try to cut through
wood that was full of nails and tear up a blade like that.? I
told him I had never even plugged it in because it supposedly
had a bad motor that was barely running.?? He laughed and said
there is nothing wrong with that motor but the blade has been
destroyed!? The local Skil repair center had a promotion where
you could trade in any blade and get a new one for $1.? I did
and still have the saw after more than 50 years and it is still
running fine!
Jack
On 9/11/2023 7:26 PM, d6crawler via
groups.io wrote:
I lent my brother my worm
drive skillsaw so he could do some remodeling work. He
brought it back and said it was no good and downright
dangerous. It jumped and smoked and wouldn't cut and he had
gone and bought a new el-cheapo circular saw and it was much
better. I opened the carrying case and noticed a brand new
blade installed backwards in my saw. When I asked him he
said "oh yeah, I put that in before I started to make sure I
got clean cuts".
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Second marriage for both me and my wife; she has two sons from her first one.? If I'd been there from the beginning they'd be a whole lot handier.? I handed one my Ryobi and a box of deck screws, and asked him to go screw down the deck boards that were getting loose (as a stop-gap - we've replaced the whole thing now).? He came back about an hour later and said "The screws just won't go in."? Naturally, the drill was in reverse.? It took him an hour to figure that out? ~~
Mark Moulding
South Bend 9" Model C, Walker Turner drill press, Rong Fu table-top mill, "Mini" lathe, a whole bunch of Shopsmith gear
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Bill in OKC too
ww_big_al
RJ White
Mark Moulding