SouthBendLathe

Re: Selling parts to SB 10Heavy

firefite@... (firefite Roenigk) — Thu, 03 Apr 2025 02:30:08 -0700

I don’t know if the squeeze handle 10H is the same for the 10L . Dave

Re: Selling parts to SB 10Heavy

animal@... (mike allen) — Wed, 02 Apr 2025 16:28:49 -0700

thanks ,

I have a squeeze hand that I bought , I needed the type that ya pull on the handle to move , I always get the 2 10" lathe mdl#'s mixed up .

so if anyone needs a squeeze handle reverse tumbler & has a pull type let's trade .

thanks

animal

On 4/2/25 10:34 AM, firefite Roenigk via groups.io wrote:

Re: Selling parts to SB 10Heavy

wmrmeyers@... (Bill in OKC too) — Wed, 02 Apr 2025 16:24:05 -0700

If you don't find someone else who needs them worse, I could use them if they'll fit a 1941 Heavy 10L.

Bill in OKC

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Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.

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Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
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The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.

Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.

On Wednesday, April 2, 2025 at 09:51:58 AM CDT, Andrei via groups.io <calciu1@...> wrote:

Guys, I have some SB heavy 10 parts that I don't need. They weigh about 15 pounds, give or take a little.

I can post a picture later today, when i get back from work.

The price is $0.00 but you have to cover the shipping from 22015 to wherever you are.

Best Regards,

Andrei

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Re: Selling parts to SB 10Heavy

firefite@... (firefite Roenigk) — Wed, 02 Apr 2025 10:34:48 -0700

Squeeze handle. Dave

Re: Selling parts to SB 10Heavy

firefite@... (firefite Roenigk) — Wed, 02 Apr 2025 08:41:49 -0700

$1000.00

David Roenigk

9086 West Windsor Drive

Olmsted Falls, Ohio 44138

I��m going to live forever��..So far so good

firefite@...

Re: Selling parts to SB 10Heavy

calciu1@... (Andrei) — Wed, 02 Apr 2025 07:51:55 -0700

Guys, I have some SB heavy 10 parts that I don't need. They weigh about 15 pounds, give or take a little.

I can post a picture later today, when i get back from work.

The price is $0.00 but you have to cover the shipping from 22015 to wherever you are.

Best Regards,

Andrei

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Re: Selling parts to SB 10Heavy

sapark123321@... (sapark123321) — Wed, 02 Apr 2025 07:42:15 -0700

What are you asking for it?

Re: Selling parts to SB 10Heavy

animal@... (mike allen) — Tue, 01 Apr 2025 13:40:57 -0700

does that have the squeeze lever reverse tumbler or the pull handle reverse tumbler ?

thanks

animal

On 4/1/25 1:35 PM, firefite Roenigk via groups.io wrote:

Selling parts to SB 10Heavy

firefite@... (firefite Roenigk) — Tue, 01 Apr 2025 13:35:56 -0700

I have a perfectly good 10H, well to get it out of the basement, I got a larger lathe, It’s no going in the basement. I had to take it all apart. I’m selling all Or parts of it. Dave

I will ship the parts if you pay for the shipping. Olmsted Falls Ohio 44138

Re: 10L Undermount Cone Pully Bearing Replacement

DLVerdiani@... (Don Verdiani) — Tue, 01 Apr 2025 12:09:42 -0700

I was just coming around to that point of view.

Thanks, Don

Re: 10L Undermount Cone Pully Bearing Replacement

valleyfarmisee@... (William Santo) — Tue, 01 Apr 2025 08:58:49 -0700

Thank you, Andrei. My sentiments, exactly!

packard bill

On Tuesday, April 1, 2025 at 11:44:14 AM EDT, Andrei via groups.io <calciu1@...> wrote:

Guys, just cut the damn belt. You can buy a new one for 40-50 bucks.

There is no need to torture yourself and your machine for something that can be resolved with a swipe of a knife and, later, with a little glue at the skivvied ends of the belt.

Best Regards,

Andrei

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Re: 10L Undermount Cone Pully Bearing Replacement

calciu1@... (Andrei) — Tue, 01 Apr 2025 08:44:10 -0700

Guys, just cut the damn belt. You can buy a new one for 40-50 bucks.

There is no need to torture yourself and your machine for something that can be resolved with a swipe of a knife and, later, with a little glue at the skivvied ends of the belt.

Best Regards,

Andrei

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Re: 10L Undermount Cone Pully Bearing Replacement

themachinest0119@... (Gary_K) — Mon, 31 Mar 2025 20:05:46 -0700

I just took a look at mine ( cabinet mount with the side panel removed at present) and it certainly looks like it should be possible in theory. I see direct access to the taper pin that secures the large drive pulley to the shaft - though it would require care to hammer it out without hitting the cabinet��. The cone pulley has two set screws, and I recall stoning the area where they contacted the shaft after I had everything apart. My bearings had both seized on the shaft and required considerable persuasion to get them to release and then slide off the shaft. Note the shaft has ‘steps�� on both ends for the bearing to seat against. The taper pin was cooperative for once, then I ended up using heat (torch) on the big drive pulley (careful, it’s cast iron��) and ice on the shaft, along with a wheel puller to get that pulley off. Then I managed to persuade the bearings out of the frame by removing the bolt-on keepers and forcefully tapping the shaft toward the tail stock end of the lathe. Once it came out of the frame, I used a wheel puller (it was tight) to pull the right end bearing from the shaft. I ended up ruining both bearings by forcing them off the shaft, but no damage to the shaft. The cone pulley came off more easily than expected using a bigger wheel puller. I had to clean up some burrs and rust spots on the shaft once it was all apart but it all cleaned up nicely. FWIW, I think I’d try it without removing the belt, but worst case, you can always cut the belt and drop the cone pulley unit so you have room to work��

Re: 10L Undermount Cone Pully Bearing Replacement

Mon, 31 Mar 2025 07:55:23 -0700

Don

Sounds like you got about as far, or maybe a bit further, than I did over 20 years ago before admitting defeat and cutting the belt.

Burred over and damaged set-screw holes were definitely a feature needing care to get things apart without significant damage and requiring thoughtful re-working to prevent a repeat.

If I recall correctly with the whole unit removed I was able to pull the bearings with the shaft sort of in place then tilt and slide to remove it so I could operate on the pulley mount area to de-burr et al.

Mine was on the final version of the sheet metal box stand. I'd already pulled the centre panel to fit shelves, doors and drawers for storage. Before re-installation I added a couple of extra holes, with covers, so everything could be re-assembled in place. With everything nicely prepped and clean it all went back together very easily.

Clive

Re: 10L Undermount Cone Pully Bearing Replacement

davis@... (Davis Johnson) — Sun, 30 Mar 2025 18:22:57 -0700

maybe... I think you may be able to do something if you don't try to take the belt off. If you can get enough belt slack to get the spindle out with out removing the belt you may be able to do something.

On 3/30/25 19:02, Davis Johnson wrote:

Re: 10L Undermount Cone Pully Bearing Replacement

davis@... (Davis Johnson) — Sun, 30 Mar 2025 16:02:24 -0700

The belt, while running in forward, goes up the rear side of the spindle pulley, down the front side of the pulley. If there there are separate passages through all that cast iron for the two directions you can't do it.

On 3/30/25 17:03, Don Verdiani via groups.io wrote:

Re: 10L Undermount Cone Pully Bearing Replacement

DLVerdiani@... (Don Verdiani) — Sun, 30 Mar 2025 14:03:16 -0700

Ok everyone, now I could use some help. I determined that the right-side bearing is failing using a stethoscope. I need to talk with someone who has replaced the bearings on a Heavy 10 UMD Cone Pulley shaft. I really want to save my perfectly good polymer drive belt. It looks like the job can be done in place. So far, I have:

Pulled the motor drive belt.
Dropped the motor/pulley shaft as far down as it will go. The motor hits the back of the stand casting.
Removed the nut and lock nut from the right end of the shaft.
Removed all six machine screws holding the retaining rings.
Removed the cone pulley set screws.
Cleaned the pully shaft, sprayed everything with Liquid Wrench

So, at the moment:

The cone pulley is sort-of free on the shaft. Best guess is that there are burrs on the shaft where the set screws beat it up. They had loosened up, maybe because of the bearing failure/vibration, which is part of the reason I'm doing this.
The bearing retaining rings are free.
I have not been able to remove the collar from the right-hand end of the shaft.
The left-side pulley (motor drive) taper pin is giving me a hard time. It's not out yet. If the shaft can be removed with the carrier in place, it will clear the UMD housing.
Dead-blow persuasion on the left-side pulley is NOT moving the bearings. Again, I'm being gentle
There is no way to get a dead-blow hammer on the right end with the motor still in place.

Replacing the belt is actually not a big, or expensive, deal. Now it's just the principle of the thing. Is what I'm trying to do possible? It looks like if I can figure out how to drive the shaft from right to left and pop the bearing out, this will work. Thoughts/experience?

One thing for sure, when it goes back together, the six machine screws are going to be socket head cap screws.

Don Verdiani

Outside Philadelphia, PA

Re: 10L Undermount Cone Pully Bearing Replacement

byghtn3@... (John Byghtn3) — Wed, 26 Mar 2025 07:47:17 -0700

A Guy on YouTube named WINKEY, is offering belting and glue, maybe he can offer advice and glue? ---- Flat Belt Fabricating and Splicing - Synthetic Belts Click it

This same guy is on a 4x6 bandsaw users group

His real name is MARK

You can also search "Flat Belt" on YouTube ---- flat belt - YouTube Click it

Good Luck!

On 3/25/2025 5:52 PM, Don Verdiani via groups.io wrote:

Re: 10L Undermount Cone Pully Bearing Replacement

DLVerdiani@... (Don Verdiani) — Tue, 25 Mar 2025 14:52:31 -0700

It’s a polymer belt, but that’s an interesting thought. I’ll check my notes. Probably been 20 years since I put it on 😊.

Don

Re: 10L Undermount Cone Pully Bearing Replacement

rlm_mcv@... (rlm_mcv) — Tue, 25 Mar 2025 13:52:06 -0700

If it was glued with hide glue can it be loosened with steam or water and then reglued later?

On Tuesday, March 25, 2025 at 02:08:29 PM CDT, Don Verdiani via groups.io <dlverdiani@...> wrote:

Sorry, skived and glued belt. I'd rather not cut it, if there is a way to change out the right-side bearing leaving it whole.

Don