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Right up Bob and Alyx's alley - challenge!


 

From harrypotterxtreme, Michael Dean issued this challenge.
From having read DA and SC, I think that Bob and Alyx could do this challenge very well.
My thoughts are that I would not like to see someone with an axe to grind do it. It would need someone who knew their subject.
One problem is that if you remove all the nuclear weapons, the muggles will move on to something else - a la the Jesus Factor - germ/chemical weapons. When you consider the alternatives, I would rather deal with bombs and fall out. both Germ and chemical weapons have a "fallout" pattern and are a lot harder to deal with. Germ warfare in particular has the possibility to wipe out mankind - more so than nuclear fallout.

Another problem is that the infra structure and knowledge for the nuclear side of things is so scattered that just going in and memory wiping people would not work.
1) the data is scattered all over the place in books, encyclopedias, films internet and libraries that you'd not find it all.
2) would not be able to find all the people that needed to be wiped.
3) Governments would know something has gone wrong and start looking for who did it.
4) Terrorist org's may be one of the first groups to come up with the knowlege.
5) States that are only held in check by WMD would see it as their chance to advance. And there are those states!
Dave

Subject: [harrypotterxtreme] Challenge: Sum Of All Fears, Based on the movie
Reply-To: harrypotterxtreme@...

We all know that the wizards of England don't follow the news of the
Muggle world but what if something happened in the Muggle world that
would have effected the Magical world by default?


Rita is making her way back to the Leaky Cauldron after visiting a
friend in Scotland she goes by the docks at the Scapa Flow naval base
(don't ask how she got there) when she sees it a huge Muggle
aircraft carrier. A huge battered Muggle aircraft carrier being a
reporter she asks what happened the longshoremen laugh & ask what
cave she was living in. A news man tells her more or less world war
three almost happened. Rita does some digging & what she finds would
have scared a Death Eater to death she learns of the chemical
weapons attack on Grozny, the destruction of Baltimore, the Russian
attack on the carrier events that if they had went unchecked would
have led to Nuclear war. It was made more frightening by the fact
that the magical world didn't know it happened. She decides to let
them know what almost happened.

It's a nice crisp Feb. morning all of Hogwarts staff & student body
are at breakfast. The usual morning mail & the Daily Prophet is
delivered. On the front page in banner headlines reads NUCLEAR WAR
NARROWLY EVOIDED!!!! under the headline is a picture of the battered
aircraft carrier the caption below the photo reads (I'll use the
name) U.S.S Thomas Jefferson, CVN-20. It goes into details probably
get an interview with the captain & every one is shocked.

When asked by the Purebloods what a nuclear war is the Muggleborns
led by Granger give an explanation of what it is 'Mione probably has
a Muggle history book in her bag with pictures of Hiroshima. She
could have one of the professor's enlarge a few of pictures and pass
them around. Then she drops the bomb about how this being the second
time a war almost happened before then she goes on to tell about the
Cuban Missle Crisis.

The Challenge: write reactions to the news from the MoM who after
getting a good look at London has nightmares of it's destruction on
down to Harry who kicks himself for paying too much attention to the
Magical World & not paying enough attention to World in general &
also finding out that no matter what he does there will always be
evil men in the world.


 

I find this challenge confusing. Is it just asking for the Wizarding
World's reaction to the fact that the muggles have the ability to kill
them all? Or is it asking the impossible, that is the eradication of
all nuclear weapons by wizards?

The reaction should be simple.

Voldemort pees his pants. :D

Putting the genie back into the bottle is just impossible. :\

- Bob


--- In snorkack@..., Dave Gerecke <dave@n...> wrote:
From harrypotterxtreme, Michael Dean issued this challenge.
From having read DA and SC, I think that Bob and Alyx could do this
challenge very well.
My thoughts are that I would not like to see someone with an axe to
grind do it. It would need someone who knew their subject.
One problem is that if you remove all the nuclear weapons, the
muggles will move on to something else - a la the Jesus Factor -
germ/chemical weapons. When you consider the alternatives, I would
rather deal with bombs and fall out. both Germ and chemical weapons
have a "fallout" pattern and are a lot harder to deal with. Germ
warfare in particular has the possibility to wipe out mankind - more
so than nuclear fallout.

Another problem is that the infra structure and knowledge for the
nuclear side of things is so scattered that just going in and memory
wiping people would not work.
1) the data is scattered all over the place in books, encyclopedias,
films internet and libraries that you'd not find it all.
2) would not be able to find all the people that needed to be wiped.
3) Governments would know something has gone wrong and start looking
for who did it.
4) Terrorist org's may be one of the first groups to come up with
the knowlege.
5) States that are only held in check by WMD would see it as their
chance to advance. And there are those states!
Dave

Subject: [harrypotterxtreme] Challenge: Sum Of All Fears, Based on
the movie
Reply-To: harrypotterxtreme@...

We all know that the wizards of England don't follow the news of the
Muggle world but what if something happened in the Muggle world that
would have effected the Magical world by default?


Rita is making her way back to the Leaky Cauldron after visiting a
friend in Scotland she goes by the docks at the Scapa Flow naval base
(don't ask how she got there) when she sees it a huge Muggle
aircraft carrier. A huge battered Muggle aircraft carrier being a
reporter she asks what happened the longshoremen laugh & ask what
cave she was living in. A news man tells her more or less world war
three almost happened. Rita does some digging & what she finds would
have scared a Death Eater to death she learns of the chemical
weapons attack on Grozny, the destruction of Baltimore, the Russian
attack on the carrier events that if they had went unchecked would
have led to Nuclear war. It was made more frightening by the fact
that the magical world didn't know it happened. She decides to let
them know what almost happened.

It's a nice crisp Feb. morning all of Hogwarts staff & student body
are at breakfast. The usual morning mail & the Daily Prophet is
delivered. On the front page in banner headlines reads NUCLEAR WAR
NARROWLY EVOIDED!!!! under the headline is a picture of the battered
aircraft carrier the caption below the photo reads (I'll use the
name) U.S.S Thomas Jefferson, CVN-20. It goes into details probably
get an interview with the captain & every one is shocked.

When asked by the Purebloods what a nuclear war is the Muggleborns
led by Granger give an explanation of what it is 'Mione probably has
a Muggle history book in her bag with pictures of Hiroshima. She
could have one of the professor's enlarge a few of pictures and pass
them around. Then she drops the bomb about how this being the second
time a war almost happened before then she goes on to tell about the
Cuban Missle Crisis.

The Challenge: write reactions to the news from the MoM who after
getting a good look at London has nightmares of it's destruction on
down to Harry who kicks himself for paying too much attention to the
Magical World & not paying enough attention to World in general &
also finding out that no matter what he does there will always be
evil men in the world.


 

I agree, the genie is out!
but while we, the muggles, have adjusted to living with WMD, but have the wizards?
dave

I find this challenge confusing. Is it just asking for the Wizarding
World's reaction to the fact that the muggles have the ability to kill
them all? Or is it asking the impossible, that is the eradication of
all nuclear weapons by wizards?

The reaction should be simple.

Voldemort pees his pants. :D

Putting the genie back into the bottle is just impossible. :&#92;

- Bob


--- In snorkack@..., Dave Gerecke <dave@n...> wrote:
From harrypotterxtreme, Michael Dean issued this challenge.
From having read DA and SC, I think that Bob and Alyx could do this
> challenge very well.


 

--- In snorkack@..., Dave Gerecke <dave@n...> wrote:
I agree, the genie is out!
but while we, the muggles, have adjusted to living with WMD, but have
the wizards?
dave
But thats exactly my point. There isn't anything they can do about it
other than admit it exists. Where's the challenge in that? We touched
briefly on the topic in Spiritus Crystalus when Jack Parsons (the
american squib) sat talking with the teachers over lunch during the
summer.

The purebloods could be shocked by it, but it shouldn't be a surprise
to anyone of halfblood or muggle born heritages.

- Bob


Michael Dean
 

The challenge is to write a fic where the wizards learn that if they
don't keep track of the world & by the world I mean the whole damn
thing not just the magical one something will come along & bite them
in the ass.

I read one fic that had Harry leaving our universe for some special
training & while he was gone some thing happened & about 20 or was it
50 major cities including London was destroyed in a surprise mystery
nuclear exchange. When Tonks told them that it was a Muggle weapon
that did it Dumbledore was shocked, Minerva said that the wizarding
world always wondered how Hiroshima & Nagasaki was destroyed, & Snape
flat out didn't believe it & I think said something along the lines of
if the Muggles had such a weapon how come thay didn't use them already.


--- In snorkack@..., "bobmi357" <submitaccount@y...> wrote:
--- In snorkack@..., Dave Gerecke <dave@n...> wrote:
I agree, the genie is out!
but while we, the muggles, have adjusted to living with WMD, but
have
the wizards?
dave
But thats exactly my point. There isn't anything they can do about it
other than admit it exists. Where's the challenge in that? We touched
briefly on the topic in Spiritus Crystalus when Jack Parsons (the
american squib) sat talking with the teachers over lunch during the
summer.

The purebloods could be shocked by it, but it shouldn't be a surprise
to anyone of halfblood or muggle born heritages.

- Bob