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Llama in my livingroom

polander600@... (Tom S) — Thu, 03 Apr 2025 15:50:37 -0700

I just saw this, thought it would give a laugh.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3g6flKYBcM&ab_channel=TwilightNC

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Tom.

Re: ot: seeking either an Irish, or Welsh, or Gaelic saying like this?

klewellen@... (Karen Lewellen) — Wed, 12 Mar 2025 21:45:30 -0700

..make that Anam Cara
It means soul friend.
Kare

Re: ot: seeking either an Irish, or Welsh, or Gaelic saying like this?

klewellen@... (Karen Lewellen) — Wed, 12 Mar 2025 21:35:42 -0700

Hi Alex,
..sigh, sorry for the spelling issues.

I took something from Anam Cara last year..may revisit it again. especially as I am drawing something from it as a setup for the song I am singing.
Although, I am reading some Seamus Heney as well.

and indeed, I was speaking of U2 base player Adam Clayton.
Interesting the band's homeland still have a mixed stance on them though.
Thanks,
Kare

Re: ot: seeking either an Irish, or Welsh, or Gaelic saying like this?

raginginsincerity@... (Alex Cherry) — Wed, 12 Mar 2025 19:19:40 -0700

Hi All,

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In reverse order:

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Hi Adam, I'll be happy to wave in your general direction, even give you a video if you'd like!聽 I assumed he meant the bassist from U2, who while perhaps not the most loved folks in Ireland are quite famous!

聽

Hi Tommy, the Irish adore their Scot cousins!聽 I'm nowhere close to an expert on the language, but I'm glad that the feckin' British are finally acknowledging its validity!聽 Our favorite posh moment was a weekend city break to Edinburgh when we ate at Fhior - best food we've had in Europe in two years!聽 However, I did find a local and have some haggis, which remains in my categories of favorite foods ever.聽 Should you and your partner ever make your way over here, rest assured we've a spare room that's yours for the asking!

聽

Hi Karen,聽 that's a tough one.聽 There's not really a cultural phrase or similar that conveys what you're looking for, which is a blessing and welcome to your home and your event.聽 I've asked a few Irish friends and haven't found any response that might work for you.聽 Most suggested leaning on Ireland's long history of poetry and finding a phrase that worked for you.聽 I know that's not terribly helpful, but hopefully it's enough to get you started.

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Also, hi Karen, Irish is taught in schools until you're 18 here.聽 A minority of schools are taught entirely in Irish, but most are English based.聽 There's a few areas of Ireland in which Irish is spoken as a first language - called Gaeltacht areas(literally "Spoken Irish" as best I can badly translate).聽 The schools that are taught in Irish are called Gaelschoils, which I'm pretty sure translates to "Irish schools".聽 There's even small parts of the country, mostly in the northwest, called "Gaeltacht", where Irish is spoken as a first language!聽 Sadly rare that it is, but hey, 800 years of feckbag Brits oppressing us, so what are you gonna do?

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If I hear anything that might help with your speech, I'll pass it on!

Re: ot: seeking either an Irish, or Welsh, or Gaelic saying like this?

klewellen@... (Karen Lewellen) — Tue, 11 Mar 2025 17:30:48 -0700

Alex,
Its Adam Clayton, and I am in Canada..anything you can do in his general direction on my behalf will be gold, thanks!
Likewise on the advice poetry wise. My friend hosting the event is from Belfast, with a deeper since of storytelling for certain.
With appreciation,
Kare

Re: ot: seeking either an Irish, or Welsh, or Gaelic saying like this?

raginginsincerity@... (Alex Cherry) — Tue, 11 Mar 2025 17:12:46 -0700

Hi Karen,

I'm afraid that's nowhere near my flat (I live on the west side of city centre, and I don't make it down to Sandyford very often), but I can wave in his general direction!

I'm not sure what phrase is best here, but I'll ask around聽- the Irish aren't much for standing on ceremony in most cases, and have a strong case of tall poppy syndrome.聽 I'd say pick a line from your favorite Irish poet and roll with it.聽 There's tons of them!聽 Perhaps some of the mammys I know will have an opinion.

Sl谩n,

Alex

Re: ot: seeking either an Irish, or Welsh, or Gaelic saying like this?

tumshie1960@... (tumshie1960) — Tue, 11 Mar 2025 15:50:11 -0700

Not universally, it's more available now that it was when I was in school, the law in Scotland has recently changed and road signs and town names are starting to be dual language and Police vehicle and Ambulances now have both English and Gaelic on them. Previously dual language signs were only used in Gaelic speaking areas (mainly the Highlands and Western Isles), this is mainly from the political ideology of the SNP.

The best information I can find on education is here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gaelic_medium_schools_in_Scotland

Tommy

British by birth, Scottish by the grace of God
www.stopthetraffik.org

On Tuesday, 11 March 2025 at 22:38:12 GMT, Karen Lewellen via groups.io <klewellen@...> wrote:

Tommy,
Is Scottish Gaelic still taught in school?
I read recently that the UK government only recognized Irish as an official
tongue in..2022.
Still unpacking that concept if I am forthright.
Karen

Re: ot: seeking either an Irish, or Welsh, or Gaelic saying like this?

klewellen@... (Karen Lewellen) — Tue, 11 Mar 2025 15:38:08 -0700

Tommy,
Is Scottish Gaelic still taught in school?
I read recently that the UK government only recognized Irish as an official tongue in..2022.
Still unpacking that concept if I am forthright.
Karen

Re: ot: seeking either an Irish, or Welsh, or Gaelic saying like this?

klewellen@... (Karen Lewellen) — Tue, 11 Mar 2025 15:14:01 -0700

Hi Alex,
I appreciate your wisdom here.
To be clear, anything I am going to say must be in English, for the very reasons you provide.
Insuring correct pronunciation's, especially for an audience of English only speakers might be a challenge.
So any chosen expression, I will be saying in English.
As for my aim, this is a performance. the setting is indeed in a home, large living room space with an open mic feel.
I am more seeking to connect the audience with the concept of welcome, of blessing, of the oneness of celebration and fellowship.
The John O'Donnahue line I shared is a fine example.
In fact I am using another poem from his book, the title of which translates as soul friend, in my performance.
The hinting towards a Welsh saying is only because I have welsh in my family tree, but I tend to resonate with the Celtic, and the various Gaelic traditions from all their sources.
Does that help?
and..as you are in Dublin, wave at Adam Clayton's house for me on Thursday will you?
its his birthday!
Karen

Re: ot: seeking either an Irish, or Welsh, or Gaelic saying like this?

tumshie1960@... (tumshie1960) — Tue, 11 Mar 2025 09:03:51 -0700

Scots and Irish Gaelic are closely related languages, after all the original Scots, the Scotti tribe were originally from Ireland, I'm aware that speakers of both languages and converse easily with each other.

Tommy

British by birth, Scottish by the grace of God
www.stopthetraffik.org

On Tuesday, 11 March 2025 at 13:36:55 GMT, Alex Cherry via groups.io <raginginsincerity@...> wrote:

Hi from Dublin!

Couple of things here:

Gaelic is a group of languages, not a single one.聽 Irish, Scots (Scottish Gaelic) are the spoken languages聽in that group today.聽 Welsh is related, but it's a different type of Gaelic.

Be careful when pronouncing Irish phrases - the language may be written with the Roman alphabet, but it's not pronounced like that.聽 Siobhan?聽 "shi - vawn".聽 F谩ilte?聽 "fall-cha".

In Irish, a welcome is treated like a physical object (Irish is WEIRD), so you generally give someone a welcome or have a welcome.聽 It's commonly shortened to:

C茅ad M铆le F谩ilte - "kayd meelay fallcha" - A thousand welcomes

There's also this one, but it's only used when welcoming someone into a place, like a home.

T谩 f谩ilte romhat - tah fallcha roat - There is a welcome in front of you

And you can combine the two:

T谩 c茅ad m铆le f谩ilte romhat - There are a thousand welcomes in front of you

For more, it would really help if you were more specific in what you wanted to say to your guests.

Alex in Dublin

Re: ot: seeking either an Irish, or Welsh, or Gaelic saying like this?

raginginsincerity@... (Alex Cherry) — Tue, 11 Mar 2025 06:36:50 -0700

Hi from Dublin!

Couple of things here:

Gaelic is a group of languages, not a single one.聽 Irish, Scots (Scottish Gaelic) are the spoken languages聽in that group today.聽 Welsh is related, but it's a different type of Gaelic.

Be careful when pronouncing Irish phrases - the language may be written with the Roman alphabet, but it's not pronounced like that.聽 Siobhan?聽 "shi - vawn".聽 F谩ilte?聽 "fall-cha".

In Irish, a welcome is treated like a physical object (Irish is WEIRD), so you generally give someone a welcome or have a welcome.聽 It's commonly shortened to:

C茅ad M铆le F谩ilte - "kayd meelay fallcha" - A thousand welcomes

There's also this one, but it's only used when welcoming someone into a place, like a home.

T谩 f谩ilte romhat - tah fallcha roat - There is a welcome in front of you

And you can combine the two:

T谩 c茅ad m铆le f谩ilte romhat - There are a thousand welcomes in front of you

For more, it would really help if you were more specific in what you wanted to say to your guests.

Alex in Dublin

Re: ot: seeking either an Irish, or Welsh, or Gaelic saying like this?

riddick_phoenix@... (MJ Chaos) — Mon, 10 Mar 2025 20:11:07 -0700

You're quite welcome. I've unearthed a website that I've referenced frequently.聽 It has blessings for many occasions and many that are suitable for multiple uses.聽 Here's an example of one of the lists blessing s:

May your thoughts be as glad as the shamrocks,

May your heart be as light as a song,

May each day bring you bright, happy hours,

That stay with you all the year long.

https://www.thepioneerwoman.com/holidays-celebrations/g35219151/traditional-irish-blessings-prayers/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=arb_ga_pw_md_dsa_prog_mix_ca_19782982784&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwqdqvBhCPARIsANrmZhNfwP4OOZARxZXnyMQYIKukdVcxfIt8t2toJd7Iu4pHJGXN_aPor1MaAjNCEALw_wcB

Ttfn Riddick聽

Re: ot: seeking either an Irish, or Welsh, or Gaelic saying like this?

klewellen@... (Karen Lewellen) — Mon, 10 Mar 2025 18:46:52 -0700

Hi!
Thanks.
Here is what I used last year.
May the nourishment of the earth be yours.
May the clarity of light be yours.
May the fluency of the ocean be yours,
and may the protection of the ancestors be yours.

Its from a book by John O'Donahue.

Re: ot: seeking either an Irish, or Welsh, or Gaelic saying like this?

riddick_phoenix@... (MJ Chaos) — Mon, 10 Mar 2025 06:34:42 -0700

Karen,

I know of a few.

1)聽 Cead Mile Failte: A Hundred Thousand Welcomes聽

2)聽聽Leprechauns, castles, good luck and laughter

Lullabies, dreams and love ever after

Poems and songs with pipes and drums

A thousand welcomes when anyone comes鈥�

3) Merry meet,聽 merry part, merry meet again. (Used in part or whole as both greeting and separating)

Hope this helps.

Ttfn,

Riddick聽

ot: seeking either an Irish, or Welsh, or Gaelic saying like this?

klewellen@... (Karen Lewellen) — Sun, 09 Mar 2025 19:44:10 -0700

Hi all,
Next Saturday is the songs & stories event my Northern Irish friend holds around st. Patrick's day here.
Singing again, not only a welcome distraction from the sex assault case and other things, but I will have a pianist to accompany me I am told...yes!
ahem.
Anyway to start my part of the event I am seeking a welcoming, / glad we are together / dare I say sort of blessing to share as a greeting.
Not the Irish blessing, so well known others will use it smiles.
Drawn from either tradition, Irish, Gaelic, or Welsh, or Celtic if apart from the ones noted.
Regrettably I will have to speak in English, so the deeper the idea the better.
The event is sort of a living room open mic setting where folks with all talents entertain and celebrate our human connection. And enjoy usually a fantastic Irish Celtic playlist setting the mood.
Any ideas?
With appreciation,

Kare

Re: two fic recs.

klewellen@... (Karen Lewellen) — Fri, 07 Mar 2025 12:17:51 -0800

Happy reading wheels!
karen

Re: two fic recs.

steven.r.wheeler@... (Steve Wheeler) — Fri, 07 Mar 2025 10:44:15 -0800

My account is now active. Thank you, Karen.

聽

wheels

Re: two fic recs.

steven.r.wheeler@... (Steve Wheeler) — Fri, 07 Mar 2025 08:42:22 -0800

They're available on Amazon, but you can't download Kindle books to anything but a Kindle device or Kindle app anymore - Amazon changed things just over a week ago. I'm not fond of buying ebooks that end up not being actual purchases, but there are a lot of books that are now prohibitive to acquire in hardcopy. The most recent ones I've had my nose rubbed in are the Papa Schimmelhorn stories by Reginald Bretnor - I used to have the two paperbacks that I was aware of, but I lost them somewhere over the years, and prices on one of them run up into the hundreds of dollars. They're probably available on some of the sketchy "library" sites running on Russian and other servers, but I've always been leery of using them. So, I may end up with Kindle books, anyway.

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wheels

Re: two fic recs.

ordinarymortal@... (Melanie Pearson) — Fri, 07 Mar 2025 01:06:26 -0800

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X Melanie

Re: two fic recs.

tara.li@... (Tara Li) — Thu, 06 Mar 2025 21:57:23 -0800

Yes, exactly.聽 Flint is Eastern Sect, kind of American in sensibilities with ALL the weapons, Western is Tolive, more Oriental, plays economic judo.

I got lucky in reading Enemy of the State first.聽 Have a copy on my bookshelf, in fact.聽 Need to see if I can find e-copies.