Skip,
You can drive west on Creed Rd. and park your car where it crosses the railroad tracks and see the wye. It is a short distance north of the crossing.
Bruce
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From: skipp Isaham skipp025@... [SacNorthern]
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 1:33 PM
To: sacnorthern@...
Subject: Re: [SacNorthern] SN Military Moves
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> Bruce Eldridge bfeldridge@... [SacNorthern] wrote:
> Hi, Skipp, The new alignment from Dosier north of Travis AFB to avoid
> runways was built in 1947. This track is now owned by WRM. Bruce
I'm not sure if the picture will come through the Group... or
not. Attached to this reply is an aerial photo of the SN going
toward the Travis AFB runways, from the original east wye; that
although the wye is long gone, the earth work still shows up
from the sky.
cheers,
skipp
Original SN ROW view, south east of Travis AFB, picture attached.
On Sunday, April 19, 2020, 09:32:31 AM PDT, Bruce Eldridge [email protected] [SacNorthern] <sacnorthern@...> wrote:
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Hi, Skpp,
The new alignment from Dosier north of Travis AFB to avoid runways was built in 1947. This track is now owned by WRM.
Bruce
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From: skipp isaham skipp025@... [SacNorthern]
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 2:23 AM
To: SacNorthern@...
Subject: Re: [SacNorthern] SN Military Moves
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Hello everyone, still here and that's good news.
If you use Google Earth view of the SN line north
of the WRM and Lambie Road, you can still pick out
the original ROA wye, the north-west stub leading
off directly toward the Airbase front gate area, that
would have originally been direct through the runway
areas.
There was some past SN Group talk about the rail size
being less than desired for certain heavy traffic going
in to the base. That's where the SP was reportedly tasked
to bring in the Walters Road going East stub.
The interesting tidbit about Bruce's post was the mention
of the branch being built in 1930. Anyone know when
the last new SN row way was constructed? I was under the
impression all the SN row was built well before 1930.
cheers,
skipp
> Bruce Eldridge bfeldridge@... [SacNorthern] wrote:
> Hi, David,
>
> Before the Travis AFB was established, there was a SN track called the
> Creed Branch that went through the land that eventually became AFB land.
> The branch was built in 1930 from a wye at Creed by Western Pacific (who
> by then owned SN) and ended at Vacaville Junction. This gave SN
> connections to Vacaville and Willota and avoided having to exchange
> freights by the Vallejo and Northern with SP in Fairfield.
>
> After Travis was expanded, a new branch was built to the north from
> Dosier west to avoid tracks on runways on the base. SN continued to send
> freight trains to the Base for several years until a new line was built
> from the SP which crossed Walters Road. The was the final for all SN
> tracks on Base. I don¡¯t know when the SP branch was built. It is no
> longer in use.
>
> I wrote a detailed description of the rise and fall of the SN Creed line
> as the Air Force Base expanded. It was published in The Review Issue 1,
> March 2014. If you visit the Archives of the Western Railway Museum you
> can make copies of any of the issues they have.
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Daniel Levy dlouislevy@... [SacNorthern]
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 12:03 PM
> To: SacNorthern@...
> Subject: Re: [SacNorthern] SN Military Moves
>
>
> Hi David. Not sure if this was answered, but I would be interested to
> know as well! I recall that the SN had a line that went through the land
> where the travis base is on, and it had to be relocated when the base
> was built. The WRM owns that line now and it is its connection to the
> UP. I recall that the SN did have a connection to the army base via the
> Key System. I am not sure which route it took, but my guess is down 40th
> street to the yard/powerhouse and then perhaps over the SP IER?trestle
> to the base?
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 4:35 PM David Epling npdcctrains@...
> [SacNorthern] <SacNorthern@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am doing some research on WP & Subsidiary military moves. I know and
> actually saw SN Operations at the CNWS.
>
> I am told that SN delivered Jet Fuel to Travis AFB.
>
> My question is how? Where? Did SN have their own spur or did they
> trackage rights from Cannon to the TAFB access spur off of the SP.
>
> I¡¯m also told SN served Oakland Army Base. So same question applies, did
> they have their own line?
>
> Thanks
>
> David Epling
> Stockton CA
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