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Sole repair #Sabre28


 

Sole was rotting out¡­
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So I started cutting out the rotted parts of the sole. ?Not sure where to go from here, doesn¡¯t seem to be anywhere to attach the new wood too.
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Old wood laminate won¡¯t come off.
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Maybe but off more than I can chew here. ?I¡¯m also concerned with the section of missing bulkhead.
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How do I account for the bilge access? ?

Can I get some guidance for next steps?
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Aaron R
Sabre 28-28 Hull 308


 

There is an under layer under the center section of the sole that is flat. Then foam, then the 1/4" "sole" you walk on. This is also a good opportunity to replace your floors and the support under the compression post. In order ascending you'll have: Floors -> Sub-sole (the tabs for your bilge access panels get glued and bolted to this) -> Foam -> Sole. Looking at the pictures you put up, I would say your floors need to be replaced as well, "floor" in this case being the vertical supports in the keel pocket that support the sole and provide extra rigidity to the keel structure, while "sole" is the part you walk on.?

The sole will come out with a hammer, various chisels, pry-bars, grinders, and liberal use of the f-word. It's glued directly to your hull.?

If the bulkhead is rotten at the bottom, it is likely rotten up the tabbing to the top of the hull and the whole bulkhead should be replaced. Water gets in there from the chainplate or hull/deck joint, or runs down the headliner and gets into the void between the plywood/hull/tabbing joint where Sabre didn't use any fillets and left a void between the bulkhead and the hull. The bulkhead will need to come into and out of the boat in two pieces and get glued up in place.?

Not an undoable amount of work, several members of this group have done this project on an S28.?

Some pictures are attached of how Light was constructed, there's also a great photo album out there somewhere that has Fiddler's Green's?rebuild.?

Thanks,
Corey
Light S28-1
Essex, CT


On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 6:17?PM Aaron R via <aaronwalterrau=[email protected]> wrote:
Sole was rotting out¡­
?
So I started cutting out the rotted parts of the sole.? Not sure where to go from here, doesn¡¯t seem to be anywhere to attach the new wood too.
?
Old wood laminate won¡¯t come off.
?
Maybe but off more than I can chew here.? I¡¯m also concerned with the section of missing bulkhead.
?
How do I account for the bilge access? ?

Can I get some guidance for next steps?
?
?
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Aaron R
Sabre 28-28 Hull 308


 

I may be in the minority that did the project without removing the foam and sole and felt no need to replace the entire bulkhead.

Hull 289, 28-2 from 1977. Restored in 2018. She had been repaired at the main bulkhead prior to my purchase. I reviewed with multiple specialist and the force is downward with the deck stepped mast. The prior repair clearly replaced the bottom of the bulkhead and replaced rhe compression post with an aluminum square tube cut to length. With the mast off it could be taken out. With it on, it did not budge. Hopefully you can see it in the first photo. I also chose to not cut away the rest of the sole. All floors were replaced and glassed in as well as a couple coats of epoxy. A hint I found was to create the floors out of foam but I might now consoler diving cell and fiberglass if you have enough information to complete the repair properly. The insert is 1/2 inch Okume, and 1/4 inch teak and Holly was fitted, then glued onto the bilge covers first and removed and cut the bilge covers to make sure all stripes matched.
Contact me if I can be of assistance.




Photos from Ariel.

Stephanie
Arista, S36 #67, Lake Ontario
Shburgess1207@...


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Stephanie
Moderator

Sabre 36, #67
Formerly Sabre 28-2, #289
Wilson Harbor, NY Lake Ontario


 

This is in line with what I was thinking, nice to see the pictures laid out.?
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Did you just paint the floor afterwards?? Looks like it got? a facelift.
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Aaron R
Sabre 28-28 Hull 308


 
Edited

Not sure if you mean my repair Aaron but that is 1/4¡± teak and Holly ply. I added a stencil hand painted with the compass rose. Then sealed with epoxy and Varnish.?
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Stephanie
Moderator

Sabre 36, #67
Formerly Sabre 28-2, #289
Wilson Harbor, NY Lake Ontario