Re: S362 questions on water tanks and mast j-hook
Jim is close. The J hook keeps the deck from bowing upwards when you tension the shrouds. Extremely important IMO so if yours is missing replace it pronto. Loosen all your shrouds, tighten the J hook with a modest torque, then retune the shrouds. Len Bertaux Walkabout S38mkii Prides Crossing MA
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On May 22, 2025, at 10:53?AM, Jim Starkey <jim@...> wrote:
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The J-hook keeps the deck from flexing upward from the turning
block load.? Simply put, you don't want your deck to flex.
If you have a fitting on the mast below deck and a hole in the
aft part of the mast ring, Sabre clearly intended to for one to be
installed.
On 5/22/2025 9:58 AM, Doug Snell via
groups.io wrote:
Hello all,
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I looked for these answers, but was unable to find them in
the archives.??
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1) what are the volumes of the two water tanks in a S362?
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2) does everyone use a j-hook on their mast?? My rigger just
called to tell me mine is missing, yet I do not believe I ever
had one from the time of purchase in 2021.? Any thoughts on
sailing with and without a j-hook?? Any photos would be
appriciated.
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Best Regards,
Doug Snell
S362 #137 "OZ"
South Portland Maine
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Jim Starkey,
AmorphousDB, LLC
-- Jim Starkey
Shearwater
SW42, earlier S36
Manchester, Mass
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Re: S362 questions on water tanks and mast j-hook
The J-hook keeps the deck from flexing upward from the turning
block load.? Simply put, you don't want your deck to flex.
If you have a fitting on the mast below deck and a hole in the
aft part of the mast ring, Sabre clearly intended to for one to be
installed.
On 5/22/2025 9:58 AM, Doug Snell via
groups.io wrote:
Hello all,
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I looked for these answers, but was unable to find them in
the archives.??
?
1) what are the volumes of the two water tanks in a S362?
?
2) does everyone use a j-hook on their mast?? My rigger just
called to tell me mine is missing, yet I do not believe I ever
had one from the time of purchase in 2021.? Any thoughts on
sailing with and without a j-hook?? Any photos would be
appriciated.
?
Best Regards,
Doug Snell
S362 #137 "OZ"
South Portland Maine
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Jim Starkey,
AmorphousDB, LLC
-- Jim Starkey
Shearwater
SW42, earlier S36
Manchester, Mass
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Re: S362 questions on water tanks and mast j-hook
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I never was really good at math. ?I believe the post tank is 29 gallons, the bow tank is 49 gallons, for a total of 78 gallons.
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Also, when not racing, I keep the bow tank filled, and draw from the port tank first. ?The extra weight in the bow helps keep the stern a bit higher,
and avoids marine growth above the waterline in the stern.
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Scott Shucher
Quintessa ?'98 Sabre 362 #200
South Yarmouth, MA
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Re: S362 questions on water tanks and mast j-hook
Doug,
I have a spare J-Hook from our 38MKI.? Don't ask me why.? I can measure it and take pictures.? Happy to make you a good deal.? I would say "free", but I paid dearly for the second one.
Dave Orion, '87 38MKI #99 Toms River, NJ
On Thursday, May 22, 2025 at 09:09:05 AM CDT, Scott Shucher via groups.io <scotts87@...> wrote:
The port tank holds approx 29 gallons. ?The bow tank holds about 47 gallons. ?The Sabre specs state that the tanks combined hold 87 gallons.
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Our 362 does have a J hook. ?My understanding is (and I could be wrong, so someone correct me if I am) that the j-hook should keep the mast in the boat in the case of a rollover/capsize.
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Scott Shucher
Quintessa ?'98 Sabre 362 #200
South Yarmouth, MA
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Re: S362 questions on water tanks and mast j-hook
The port tank holds approx 29 gallons. ?The bow tank holds about 47 gallons. ?The Sabre specs state that the tanks combined hold 87 gallons.
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Our 362 does have a J hook. ?My understanding is (and I could be wrong, so someone correct me if I am) that the j-hook should keep the mast in the boat in the case of a rollover/capsize.
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Scott Shucher
Quintessa ?'98 Sabre 362 #200
South Yarmouth, MA
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S362 questions on water tanks and mast j-hook
Hello all,
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I looked for these answers, but was unable to find them in the archives.??
?
1) what are the volumes of the two water tanks in a S362?
?
2) does everyone use a j-hook on their mast?? My rigger just called to tell me mine is missing, yet I do not believe I ever had one from the time of purchase in 2021.? Any thoughts on sailing with and without a j-hook?? Any photos would be appriciated.
?
Best Regards,
Doug Snell
S362 #137 "OZ"
South Portland Maine
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Re: Shopping for S28 or S30
Nate, if you're low on options for a 28 (which it seems you are not), contact me off list at elizabeth.rhodes@.... My boat is in Boston. good luck with the search!
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Re: Shopping for S28 or S30
Nate, My S28 is available in Mattapoisett for $5K. She has new main and jib and my sailmaker just put new windows in the dodger. Perkinsyachts@...
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I found water and holding tank gaskets at my local hardware store. They are a 3-1/2" i.d. what I didn't realize was pump out, water, and fuel are all different sizes.?
Christopher M. Evans
Mobile: 412-901-4752
Landline: 804-453-3020
I have about a dozen go-to suppliers mostly from suggestions on this forum. For me, Grainger's niche is fairly routine items, but items where I need to match sizes, threads, materials, etc.. I have a few locations between me and the boat where I can pick up orders. Their website is very detailed on specs, and it shows availability, usually same day or next morning pick-up.
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Joe Cleary
Kestrel? -??S36 #54? -??Boston
-- Christopher Evans
Habanero S32
Reedville, VA
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The seacocks that are in the aft lazarette are only for the deck and cockpit scuppers. If you have overboard discharge, that seacock should be accessible via an access port in the shower. You then likely have two under the Q berth. One for the head pick up and one for the fridge water cooling pump. Underneath the head sink, there is a seacock for the sink and shower discharge.?
That should cover all of the seacocks in the back half of the boat. As for your propane locker, it¡¯s not ideal, I agree. I took mine out this offseason and when I reinstalled it, I did it with gasket tape as opposed to a bedding compound. This allows me to get in there a bit easier if I have to.?
Good luck with whatever you¡¯re working on.?
Jordan
S402-047
formerly S36-087
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Lake Michigan
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I may be remembering incorrectly, but I believe that the starboard cockpit drain connects to the seacock for the port drain. ?Still not great, but easier than getting over to the exhaust and autopilot ram. ??
Rick
Calypso
On May 21, 2025, at 1:47?PM, Dan Grossman via groups.io <ldg004@...> wrote:
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On both sides, you have to crawl into the lazarette. Not something you'd want to do in an emergency.
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On 5/21/2025 12:55 PM, briggs.bryant1 via groups.io wrote:
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We purchased a Sabre 402 and are still familiarizing ourselves with it. Can someone help explain how to access the seacocks in the stern of the boat. They seem to be located under the propane locker and am not sure how to get to them.?
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On both sides, you have to crawl into
the lazarette. Not something you'd want to do in an emergency.
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On 5/21/2025 12:55 PM, briggs.bryant1
via groups.io wrote:
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We purchased a Sabre 402 and are still familiarizing
ourselves with it. Can someone help explain how to access the
seacocks in the stern of the boat. They seem to be located under
the propane locker and am not sure how to get to them.?
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Thanks!
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We purchased a Sabre 402 and are still familiarizing ourselves with it. Can someone help explain how to access the seacocks in the stern of the boat. They seem to be located under the propane locker and am not sure how to get to them.?
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Thanks!
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Re: impeller access in Westerbeke 35B 3 in Sabre 362
I go with the approach Larry Davis suggested.? Also someone on here suggested (remove the pump) using a flex head rathering wrench - works a treat.
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Re: Shopping for S28 or S30
Looking at boats in the 15k ballpark.
Thanks to the members who have forwarded me leads and info off-group.
Thanks, Nate
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Nate
CapeDory 22
Bar Harbor Yacht Club
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Re: impeller access in Westerbeke 35B 3 in Sabre 362
Paul,
As you can tell from the replies, this is not an easy task.? I highly recommend replacing with an impeller from Globe.? They are made from a different material and last much longer.? I only replace every three years now instead of every year.??
Roger
For what it¡¯s worth, the water pump on my 35 C in my 2002 Sabre 362 faces forward and is just as easy to service as the Beta.? I don¡¯t know what else might be different between the 35 C and B, but I give thanks for small miracles¡
Eric Wagner
S632 Nirvana
Point Pleasant, NJ
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Eric Wagner
2002 S362 #248 Nirvana
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Roger Kuebel
Restless
S362#150
Padanaram, MA
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Re: Ideas for Sailing with a Kayak?
Garhauer makes add-ons to attach to your stanchions to store kayaks.
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Tim R
38MKII in refit
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Re: Mast VHF Coaxial cable
I suggest using RG213 - I have used this on my last boat and installing into my 38.
I would be up in Georgian Bay and get clear signals from Port Huron.
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I used pool noodles in the bottom half of my mast to reduce slapping inside the mast.
I forgot about that until this thread reminded me.
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Tim R
38MKII in refit
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I changed the head joker valve and deep cleaned the head area, pumping the floor rinse water through the shower sump. The pump threw water violently out of the sink drain. The under-sink plumbing is a mess, complete with RTV. Pump is a Jabsco 50880-1000 Shower Sump Pump. There is a bronze check valve 6" above the thru-hull that I assume the PO added to prevent flooding during heel. The back pressure may be the cause of the violence.
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I recall, but can't find a post 2-3 years ago showing a nice replumbing of this area. Can anyone please point me to this or another solution?
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Thanks/Ed
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SV Enigma, Sabre 362 #199
Lake Erie @ Sandusky, OH
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Re: Sabre Sailboat anchored in Rhode River MD
Nice looking boat Kevin.
Allison LehmanSwiftsure Yachtsallison@...Cell: 510.912.5800Fax: 510.860.4640
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On May 20, 2025, at 6:40?AM, Liz Baylis via groups.io <LizBaylis@...> wrote:
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And back at you, Radiance!
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Liz Baylis
San Rafael, California
S/V Acquaviva?
Sabre 425 hull #83
Bristol, Rhode Island
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Allison
S426 Kingfisher
SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
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