Re: impeller access in Westerbeke 35B 3 in Sabre 362
Hello Paul,
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I have a 362 and have changed the impeller several times. ?1st, I unscrew the shower door and toss it in the v-berth to get it out of the way.
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Then I use a small ratcheting wrench (7mm? maybe) to loosen the screws, being careful not to drop any. ?The new impeller kit for the Westerbbeke 35 comes with a few extra screws, just in case you lose one or two. ?You might throw a rag under the raw water pump to catch any screws that fall.
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The old impeller usually pulls right out. ?If there are any vanes missing from the old impeller, be sure to find them. ?They are usually either in the hose or in the end of the heat exchanger.
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The impeller kit includes a tube of glycerin for lubrication when installing the new impeller. ?The hardest part is getting the new impeller in place, as you have to bend down two of the rubber vanes. ?I try to get them bent in the direction of rotation of the impeller, but if not, they will straighten out once you turn over the engine for the first time. ?Once the impeller is reinserted into the raw water pump, I carefully get the closest screw started by hand, then use the ratcheting wrench to tighten. ?I tend to do the easiest ones first. ?Get them started by hand. ?Then the furthest screws are the hardest, but with some patience I get them in a few turns by hand, then use the ratcheting wrench. ?Finish tightening the screws in a star pattern using the ratcheting wrench. ?Don't over tighten! ?You don't want to bust off a screw head on the raw water pump. ?When all is done, sure the shower door back on. ?That's usually a two person job. ?All said and done, It's usually a 2 hour process for me.
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Scott Shucher
Quintessa ?'98 Sabre 362 #200
South Yarmouth, MA
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Re: impeller access in Westerbeke 35B 3 in Sabre 362
Yes I remember the 362 challenge ? Allison Lehman Swiftsure Yachts 510 912-5800 cell 510 860-4640 fax allisonleh@... ? ? ??
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On May 18, 2025, at 5:53?PM, Paul Kirshen via groups.io <paul.kirshen@...> wrote:
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hi - my water pump impeller is just forward of my starter, facing aft,? on the port side of my 1995 Sabre 362. Without removing the starter, hell to even get the cover off of the casing let alone remove the impeller. Is there an easier way to inspect/replace the impeller than removing the starter to get reasonable access ??
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Paul
Pegasus
Padanaram MA
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Allison
S426 Kingfisher
SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
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Re: What goes here? Head sink cabinet
Good call Charlie¡never seen that, I like it.
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Peter Metcalf
Pfmet@...
Sabre 28 #312 Serenade
Noank, CT
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impeller access in Westerbeke 35B 3 in Sabre 362
hi - my water pump impeller is just forward of my starter, facing aft,? on the port side of my 1995 Sabre 362. Without removing the starter, hell to even get the cover off of the casing let alone remove the impeller. Is there an easier way to inspect/replace the impeller than removing the starter to get reasonable access ??
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Tx
Paul
Pegasus
Padanaram MA
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No experience with boats and rodent damage, but I had a late model (at the time) Mercedes that had a wiring harness severely damaged by mice?or squirrels. Erie covered it under my comprehensive coverage. It turns out that for a time, Mercedes switched?from plastic insulation to a soy-based green alternative that rodents found to be scrumptious. Who'da thunk? Anyway, my claim?was one of many so acceptance was quick. In the absence of a confession or a captured culprit, if you have any pictures of the damage, especially droppings or a close up of the chewing, they will help your claim. Pete
On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 2:20?PM Chris Collins via <Collinschris862= [email protected]> wrote:
Wondering if anyone can give me a little advice.?
I am Canadian and bought a 1988 Sabre 36 in New Jersey last Nov.
Boat surveyed above average.
Broker has a marina and stored the boat and equipment over Winter for me.?
Just commissioned the boat and found a couple of issues, the Dingy and my Asymmetrical were damaged by a squirrel in what I assumed was winter storage. The never used Dingy has a 4 inch hole in the tube. I am told the estimate to fix is 800$ and will take until mid June. I hope to have it sailed close to home by then. Bought a RIB at Defender yesterday.?
Also, the Asymmetrical has multiple chew holes in the sock with some small ones in sail. Otherwise in like new condition.?
The rest of the boat is sound and I¡¯m happy with my purchase.?
This issue is not my fault of course and I¡¯m not pointing fingers. Just trying to see if there are any options.?
The broker just sent me the address of the repair person.?
I have Geico insurance.?
I thought similar experiences may exist among the group and was looking for guidance.?
Thank you.?
Chris
1988 S36 #80 Over Time
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Re: What goes here? Head sink cabinet
Vincent, check for similar brackets on the left side of the inside of your wet locker to rule my suggestion out! ?Sounds like John G is on it!!
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On May 18, 2025, at 3:52 PM, V Cantarella via < vincent@...> wrote:
I thought about the Vberth insert but I think it¡¯s too big. I¡¯ll try both
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Vincent Cantarella
S/V John's Dream
1985 Sabre 34 MK1
#253
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Re: What goes here? Head sink cabinet
Try the small Rubbermaid waste basket. That is the standard unit that goes there.
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John Gardner
Moondance
S34 mk2 cb #326
Marion Harbor
On 05/18/2025 2:51 PM EDT V Cantarella <vincent@...> wrote:
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Thanks! ?That makes sense now I¡¯ll have to find a pale that would fit.?
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Vincent Cantarella
S/V John's Dream
1985 Sabre 34 MK1
#253
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Re: What goes here? Head sink cabinet
I thought about the Vberth insert but I think it¡¯s too big. I¡¯ll try both
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Vincent Cantarella
S/V John's Dream
1985 Sabre 34 MK1
#253
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Re: What goes here? Head sink cabinet
Thanks! ?That makes sense now I¡¯ll have to find a pale that would fit.?
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Vincent Cantarella
S/V John's Dream
1985 Sabre 34 MK1
#253
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Re: What goes here? Head sink cabinet
Wondering if it is the holder for the v berth insert. ?I have a 1983 34 and the location is on the left side of the wet locker across. ?
Dave G Serenade 1983 ?S-34 #184
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On May 18, 2025, at 2:36 PM, V Cantarella via < vincent@...> wrote:
Hi, I have these two pieces of wood screwed to the back of my head cabinet door that looks like they¡¯re supposed to be holding something. ?
Can anyone tell me what it might be? ?For all I know it could be floating around somewhere else on my boat. <IMG_5578.jpeg>
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Vincent Cantarella
S/V John's Dream
1985 Sabre 34 MK1
#253
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Re: What goes here? Head sink cabinet
Vincent,
A waste container
Charlie McMillan
McMillan Group Inc
25 Otter Trail
Westport, Ct ?06880
203-227-8696 office
203-291-9764 mobile?
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On May 18, 2025, at 1:36 PM, V Cantarella via < vincent@...> wrote:
Hi, I have these two pieces of wood screwed to the back of my head cabinet door that looks like they¡¯re supposed to be holding something. ?
Can anyone tell me what it might be? ?For all I know it could be floating around somewhere else on my boat.
<IMG_5578.jpeg>
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Vincent Cantarella
S/V John's Dream
1985 Sabre 34 MK1
#253
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What goes here? Head sink cabinet
Hi, I have these two pieces of wood screwed to the back of my head cabinet door that looks like they¡¯re supposed to be holding something. ?
Can anyone tell me what it might be? ?For all I know it could be floating around somewhere else on my boat.  --
Vincent Cantarella
S/V John's Dream
1985 Sabre 34 MK1
#253
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Re: Mast VHF Coaxial cable
Hall most likely got it from Thurston/Quantum Sails right down the street from them in Bristol, RI and supplies the sparmakers and riggers from all over. ?They usually don¡¯t have foam inside just for that reason of replacing or adding wire.
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Will Rogers
S426 Wynken
RI/Me
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Re: Fairclough cover for S28 free
The Fairclough cover has been spoken for.Thanks to all who responded. I never had trouble with my new cover for it shrinking and it did stretch out a bit over time. Elisa
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Re: Mast VHF Coaxial cable
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On May 17, 2025, at 8:40?PM, Allison Lehman via groups.io <allisonleh@...> wrote:
? Wow, when we got ours, Nan Hall told me all about it and never mentioned foam. ?I bet it is quiet but what a hassle to pull wires
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On May 17, 2025, at 5:00?PM, David Short, SV One Timer, 1997 362, Mt Desert, ME via groups.io <dhs.short@...> wrote:
Sailcloth & yes there are two.? Not sure if there is foam the
whole length but that could help explain the stiff pull
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On 5/17/2025 5:10 PM, Allison Lehman
via groups.io wrote:
David is your conduit PVC or sailcloth? ON our 362 the new had the
mast out replaced the PVC one with sailcloth. ?We got it from Hall
Spars and they are gone but any canvas maker or sailmaker can make
one. Ours was sailcloth folded over onto a bolt rope. ?There was a
loop at either end of the bolt rope to pull it up or down. ?We had
2 conduits one to the spreaders and one to the top of the mast.?
Allison
Lehman
Swiftsure
Yachts
allison@...
Cell:
510.912.5800
Fax:
510.860.4640
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On May 17, 2025, at 1:13?PM, David Short, SV One Timer,
1997 362, Mt Desert, ME via groups.io
<dhs.short@...> wrote:
I replaced RG-58 last Fall with LMR-400 and it was a
challenge.? I pulled at the bottom and someone fed at the
top.? Very tight thru sleeve.? I would not recommend it on
a 362.
On 5/17/2025 3:31 PM, Augustin via groups.io wrote:
--QUOTE--
For 38 years we have owned our 1986 Sabre 30 Mark III on
Lake Michigan which is "on the hard" with mast off and
scheduled for re-stepping 6/2/25. I need to replace the
VHF cable with 8X. Wondering if I have to pull top of
mast in order to replace cable or if I can just attach
new smaller diameter? 8x cable to the old VHF cable at
bottom or top of the mast and pull it through? I have
some concern about doing this if there are attachments
(for strain relief?) in the mast or if cable breaks. Any
advice is appreciated! Thanks!
Earl (Nirvana - 1986 Sabre 30 Mark III)
--END--
Hi Earl,
If you have RG-58 now and are replacing it with RG-8X,
they are the same diameter so you should have no trouble
with the replacement. It is very unlikely that the
either of the cables will break regardless of age.
A better coax would be LMR-400 or RG-213, but they are
both more expensive and larger in diameter.
--
Dave Short
SV One Timer 1997 S362
Mt Desert, ME
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Allison
S426 Kingfisher
SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
-- Dave Short SV One Timer 1997 S362 Mt Desert, ME
-- Allison S426 Kingfisher SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
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Dave Short
SV One Timer 1997 S362
Mt Desert, ME
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Re: Mast VHF Coaxial cable
Wow, when we got ours, Nan Hall told me all about it and never mentioned foam. ?I bet it is quiet but what a hassle to pull wires
Allison LehmanSwiftsure Yachtsallison@...Cell: 510.912.5800Fax: 510.860.4640
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On May 17, 2025, at 5:00?PM, David Short, SV One Timer, 1997 362, Mt Desert, ME via groups.io <dhs.short@...> wrote:
Sailcloth & yes there are two.? Not sure if there is foam the
whole length but that could help explain the stiff pull
<IMG_8499a.jpg>
On 5/17/2025 5:10 PM, Allison Lehman
via groups.io wrote:
David is your conduit PVC or sailcloth? ON our 362 the new had the
mast out replaced the PVC one with sailcloth. ?We got it from Hall
Spars and they are gone but any canvas maker or sailmaker can make
one. Ours was sailcloth folded over onto a bolt rope. ?There was a
loop at either end of the bolt rope to pull it up or down. ?We had
2 conduits one to the spreaders and one to the top of the mast.?
Allison
Lehman
Swiftsure
Yachts
allison@...
Cell:
510.912.5800
Fax:
510.860.4640
On May 17, 2025, at 1:13?PM, David Short, SV One Timer,
1997 362, Mt Desert, ME via groups.io
<dhs.short@...> wrote:
I replaced RG-58 last Fall with LMR-400 and it was a
challenge.? I pulled at the bottom and someone fed at the
top.? Very tight thru sleeve.? I would not recommend it on
a 362.
On 5/17/2025 3:31 PM, Augustin via groups.io wrote:
--QUOTE--
For 38 years we have owned our 1986 Sabre 30 Mark III on
Lake Michigan which is "on the hard" with mast off and
scheduled for re-stepping 6/2/25. I need to replace the
VHF cable with 8X. Wondering if I have to pull top of
mast in order to replace cable or if I can just attach
new smaller diameter? 8x cable to the old VHF cable at
bottom or top of the mast and pull it through? I have
some concern about doing this if there are attachments
(for strain relief?) in the mast or if cable breaks. Any
advice is appreciated! Thanks!
Earl (Nirvana - 1986 Sabre 30 Mark III)
--END--
Hi Earl,
If you have RG-58 now and are replacing it with RG-8X,
they are the same diameter so you should have no trouble
with the replacement. It is very unlikely that the
either of the cables will break regardless of age.
A better coax would be LMR-400 or RG-213, but they are
both more expensive and larger in diameter.
--
Dave Short
SV One Timer 1997 S362
Mt Desert, ME
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Allison
S426 Kingfisher
SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
-- Dave Short SV One Timer 1997 S362 Mt Desert, ME
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Allison
S426 Kingfisher
SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
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Re: Mast VHF Coaxial cable
Sailcloth & yes there are two.? Not sure if there is foam the
whole length but that could help explain the stiff pull
On 5/17/2025 5:10 PM, Allison Lehman
via groups.io wrote:
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David is your conduit PVC or sailcloth? ON our 362 the new had the
mast out replaced the PVC one with sailcloth. ?We got it from Hall
Spars and they are gone but any canvas maker or sailmaker can make
one. Ours was sailcloth folded over onto a bolt rope. ?There was a
loop at either end of the bolt rope to pull it up or down. ?We had
2 conduits one to the spreaders and one to the top of the mast.?
Allison
Lehman
Swiftsure
Yachts
allison@...
Cell:
510.912.5800
Fax:
510.860.4640
On May 17, 2025, at 1:13?PM, David Short, SV One Timer,
1997 362, Mt Desert, ME via groups.io
<dhs.short@...> wrote:
I replaced RG-58 last Fall with LMR-400 and it was a
challenge.? I pulled at the bottom and someone fed at the
top.? Very tight thru sleeve.? I would not recommend it on
a 362.
On 5/17/2025 3:31 PM, Augustin via groups.io wrote:
--QUOTE--
For 38 years we have owned our 1986 Sabre 30 Mark III on
Lake Michigan which is "on the hard" with mast off and
scheduled for re-stepping 6/2/25. I need to replace the
VHF cable with 8X. Wondering if I have to pull top of
mast in order to replace cable or if I can just attach
new smaller diameter? 8x cable to the old VHF cable at
bottom or top of the mast and pull it through? I have
some concern about doing this if there are attachments
(for strain relief?) in the mast or if cable breaks. Any
advice is appreciated! Thanks!
Earl (Nirvana - 1986 Sabre 30 Mark III)
--END--
Hi Earl,
If you have RG-58 now and are replacing it with RG-8X,
they are the same diameter so you should have no trouble
with the replacement. It is very unlikely that the
either of the cables will break regardless of age.
A better coax would be LMR-400 or RG-213, but they are
both more expensive and larger in diameter.
--
Dave Short
SV One Timer 1997 S362
Mt Desert, ME
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Allison
S426 Kingfisher
SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
--
Dave Short
SV One Timer 1997 S362
Mt Desert, ME
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Re: AGM Battery recommendation
Hi Bob - I have a 30-3 Sabre 1986 purchased new. I completely rebuilt and upgraded to a battery box with 450 amps hours and separate staring battery many years ago because of wanting refrigeration etc. I purchased 6Volt AGM batteries because they are easier to handle and plates are 30% thicker than 12V batteries and they last 600-800 cycles.? Two placed in series then another two in series are paralleled to make 450 in house bank and separate 120 V 12 volt starting battery on battery isolator illiminator so starting battery is always fully charged an "hot".? 8 AGM 225 6 volt batteries purchased 2013 and replaced again last summer 2024 from Aims Invertor store for about $900.
They are: AIMS AGM6V225AH
Size 13¡± L x? 7¡± W x 9.0¡± H
Have flat screw in bold terminals on top
Float Voltage 13.2-13.8 V
Charge Voltage 14.4 -14.7 V
Max amps charge of 64 amps
Should be good for 600-800m cycles (50% discharge)
Hope this helps.
Earl Nirvana 1986 30-3? West Bend WI on Lake Michigan.
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Re: Mast VHF Coaxial cable
David is your conduit PVC or sailcloth? ON our 362 the new had the mast out replaced the PVC one with sailcloth. ?We got it from Hall Spars and they are gone but any canvas maker or sailmaker can make one. Ours was sailcloth folded over onto a bolt rope. ?There was a loop at either end of the bolt rope to pull it up or down. ?We had 2 conduits one to the spreaders and one to the top of the mast.?
Allison LehmanSwiftsure Yachtsallison@...Cell: 510.912.5800Fax: 510.860.4640
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On May 17, 2025, at 1:13?PM, David Short, SV One Timer, 1997 362, Mt Desert, ME via groups.io <dhs.short@...> wrote:
I replaced RG-58 last Fall with LMR-400 and it was a challenge.? I pulled at the bottom and someone fed at the top.? Very tight thru sleeve.? I would not recommend it on a 362. On 5/17/2025 3:31 PM, Augustin via groups.io wrote: --QUOTE--
For 38 years we have owned our 1986 Sabre 30 Mark III on Lake Michigan which is "on the hard" with mast off and scheduled for re-stepping 6/2/25. I need to replace the VHF cable with 8X. Wondering if I have to pull top of mast in order to replace cable or if I can just attach new smaller diameter? 8x cable to the old VHF cable at bottom or top of the mast and pull it through? I have some concern about doing this if there are attachments (for strain relief?) in the mast or if cable breaks. Any advice is appreciated! Thanks!
Earl (Nirvana - 1986 Sabre 30 Mark III)
--END--
Hi Earl,
If you have RG-58 now and are replacing it with RG-8X, they are the same diameter so you should have no trouble with the replacement. It is very unlikely that the either of the cables will break regardless of age.
A better coax would be LMR-400 or RG-213, but they are both more expensive and larger in diameter.
-- Dave Short SV One Timer 1997 S362 Mt Desert, ME
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Allison
S426 Kingfisher
SF Bay/Pacifc Northwest
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Re: About carrier-provided satellite features on iPhone - Apple Support
Thats ?correct,.?
However as noted the messaging works now.?
So this a great and viable alternative and additional comm method w/o the cost, hassle, and huge power reqts of Musk¡¯s network.? So I dont care what they are doing their. Its cheap hardware and there will be contention.
I will never buy a product from that ______ !
I spent my career in the mobile business.?
Tony
Tony Billera
tony.billera@...
206 605 2650
linkedin.com/in/tonybillera
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On May 17, 2025, at 12:40?PM, Dan Grossman via groups.io <ldg004@...> wrote:
Not quite. The capability to use a mobile phone (rather than a Starlink terminal) using spectrum licensed to mobile carriers is new. That¡¯s not the same as the established Starlink service. Space-X (working with T-Mobile) had to equip the current generation Starlink satellites with purpose-built transponders and antennas as a separate payload for the service. They started launching V2 mini satellites in 2023, and there aren¡¯t yet enough of them on orbit to provide 24/7 coverage but enough for them to start what amounts to commercial trials. It goes fully live later this year. T-Mobile has a long blog posting about it on their website.
AST, as I understand it, is purpose-built for direct-to-cell using mobile frequency bands. They had enough satellites on orbit in early April to do a limited demonstration with AT&T, but not enough for 24/7 service across North America. I vaguely recollect that AT&T and Verizon say they will open commercial service in December.? On May 17, 2025, at 12:53, Tony Billera via groups.io <tony.billera@...> wrote:
? It already works for messaging.?
That¡¯s what this is. ?
Soon AST will be up and that will provide voice and data.?
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On May 17, 2025, at 9:47?AM, Dan Grossman via groups.io <ldg004@...> wrote:
? I wouldn¡¯t count on any of it this season. If I recall correctly, T-Mobile is in beta test with StarLiink, and there aren¡¯t enough V2 mini satellites on orbit yet that have direct-to-cell transponders. VZ and AT&T just had their first public announcements and successful field tests with AST Spacemobile, which has not yet launched enough satellites for complete coverage; commercial service is months off. Last I saw, iPhone/Globalstar only supported E911 messaging; I¡¯m far more comfortable with DSC and a 409 MHz EPIRB.
Next year it should get interesting. On May 17, 2025, at 09:42, Tony Billera via groups.io <tony.billera@...> wrote:
? Oops. 13 and above.?
About carrier-provided satellite features on iPhoneThere are multiple ways to stay connected on iPhone while you're off the grid with no traditional cellular or Wi-Fi coverage. With iPhone 14 or later (all models), Apple provides satellite features, in partnership with Globalstar1, to help you text emergency services, request roadside assistance, message friends and family, and share your location.?. Some carriers have enhanced their cellular network with satellites enabled by partnerships they have established with satellite providers, like Starlink. Before you go off the grid, check that your iPhone can benefit from carrier-provided satellite features. You need: iPhone 13, iPhone 14, iPhone 15, or iPhone 16 (all models) The latest version of iOS Some carriers might require a supported cellular plan
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On May 17, 2025, at 6:41?AM, Tony Billera via groups.io <tony.billera@...> wrote:
? Wow. ?This is great news.?
Satellite messaging support for iPhones 14 and above.?
https://support.apple.com/en-us/122339 Tony 2006 Delphia 40
Tony Billera
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Scott Shucher
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David Short, SV One Timer, 1997 362, Mt Desert, ME