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Hello guys......My first post in many years. I am trying to find the bandwith silde pots for my 2900 preamp. I have found balance and volume controls in the back of a drawer but not the bandwith control. This is the one with 6 contacts on each side. hopefuly someone has an idea where to get two of these. Thanks, Don

Good morning—new member here. Also a new owner of an SAE P102, T102, and E101 parametric EQ. In searching for a manual for the preamp, I sent a couple of emails to Jim over the last several weeks, with no response. And since the new year, Jim’s SAE site has been unreachable. I asked Wardsweb (on Audiokarma) about it, and he hadn’t talked with Jim in years. I’m sure this is old news to regulars, though I didn’t see anything in the recent archives and can’t download the search instructions for some reason, but I hope Jim is alright and he’s just become interested in other things. Is there some plan for recovering and preserving the site? It is a treasure trove with many documents and details not available elsewhere. (And if anyone has a P102 manual, I’d love to get a copy of it.) Rick “web preservation is an ongoing concern” Denney

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This is an automated message sent upon subscription and as a Monthly reminder. Revised 6/17/04 Mark Gurries ======== LIST RULES ========== This list has a set of rules governing the discussion topics so that we maintain the focus of the group. LIMITED SALES OF ANY PRODUCT OR MERCHANDISE INCLUDING SAE STUFF 1) No UNSOLICITED direct offers of "FOR SALE" items allowed on this SAE-TALK list. This list is not an EBAY or Audiogon. Only in rare, special cases are sales allowed upon the PRIOR discretionary approval of the Moderator. It better be very special!!! Everyday SAE stuff sold on EBAY is not special. 2) If one wishes to SELL something IN RESPONSE to a request "I'm looking for", do the actual sales OFF this list. 3) We can talk about items posted for sale in a public forum (EBAY/AUDIOGON) as long as it is related to Q&A in the spirit of this list function (production history, design, modifications, cost history, possible problems with the products and technical stuff). If this stuff gets out of hand, sales of any kind will be banned. REPAIR SERVICES Offers to do repair services or are allowed. However, all offers must be in direct RESPONSE to a request like "I'm looking for someone to repair...". Final discussions for actual work must be made OFF list. No SOLICITATION or independent advertisements allowed on the list. Repair Shops may post DIRECT weblinks to their place of business in the LINKS folder of this list website. If this stuff gets out of hand, it will be banned. POSTING OF TECHNICAL INFORMATION Offers to supply technical information or documentation are allowed. However, all offers must be in direct RESPONSE to a request like "I'm looking for someone who has a schematic too...". Final discussions for actual transfer of information must be made OFF list. No SOLICITED or independent advertisements allowed on the list. Unfortunately there is not enough disk space on the Yahoo list website to store all the technical information about Audio products we talk about. However, everyone is encouraged to post WEBLINKS to show where one can get documentation and information. This can include places that sell documentation. Weblinks are to be placed in the LINKs area of this list website. USAGE OF THE FILES AREA There are many folders containing information in the Files area. However space is VERY limited. At this time, people must obtain permission from a list moderator to post files in this area. We are trying to store information that is not publicly available or is very rare. USAGE OF THE PHOTO AREA. If you have some pictures of equipment you would like to post, this is the place to do it. However, space for these photos is shared with all the other files of this list. Keep the photo images small and compressed. Keep them to about 40K each. Moderators reserve the right to remove photos at any time as needed to manage the website disk space. MESSAGE CONDUCT Everyone must respect each other on this list. ANYONE with direct personal derogatory comments about another person in terms of them being a human being is not allowed. Technical debates, however heated, must not use foul language. Repeated offenses (they are accumulative) can lead to banning from the list. THE 10 Commandments of Email: Thou shalt include a clear and specific subject line. Thou shalt edit any quoted text down to the minimum thou needest. Thou shalt read thine own message thrice before thou sendest it. Thou shalt ponder how thy recipient might react to thy message. Thou shalt check thy spelling and thy grammar. Thou shalt not curse, flame, spam or USE ALL CAPS. Thou shalt not forward any chain letter. Thou shalt not use e-mail for any illegal or unethical purpose. Thou shalt not rely on the privacy of e-mail, especially from work. When in doubt, save thy message overnight and reread it in the light of the dawn. And, here's the "Golden Rule" of E-Mail: That which thou findest hateful to receive, sendest thou not unto others.

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It was a cold and dreary day in January of 2013, when I was notified that James Bongiorno had passed away. That day the Audio Industry lost a pioneer who contributed much to the ever growing technology of Audio. Not only did the Audio Industry loose this pioneer, but I lost a friend and mentor. The many things he taught me still remain in my mind and are useful to this day. I miss the conversations, in his unique manner of discussion,about many things other than Audio. He will always have a place in my heart for as long as I am alive. Perhaps James is designing Audio in his new environment, but in any case I hope your Resting in peace. Mark

I currently have a sae 5000 and 2 sae 5000a's. one 5000a works properly one 5000a works properly on one channel but the other channel passes no sound when in the processing mode and the 5000 passes sound in the processing mode but does not remove the clicks. Also on that there seems to be a faint high pitched tone in one channel. I have an oscilloscope and I went thru the working unit probing each I.C. and making note of what I get. For a signal I just put a mp3 of a sine wave with a simulated record skip on it so the working unit is trying to remove that skip, I can here the skip attempting to be removed with the invert button. I have probed the 5000 unit and I see discrepancies in my scope waveforms but my problem is I'm stuck at that point. The pc board isn't labeled the ic's as u1,u2,etc they just label 3 ic's with the sae part number and the other 5 with their sae part number, so my next step was going to be try to figure out what ic's are what by just following the board traces from each pin of an ic to it's component it's connected to and see if I can figure which ic is which. I'm not good at reading that schematic but I really haven't studied it . I imagine there are people that can just look at it and almost immediately see what's going on but that's not me. I work on the old rca selectavision players but I have service manuals for them and they go into great detail on how to find the problems, so I have pretty good luck working on them, but to go at a repair like these sae 5000 A little guidance may go a long way for me. I was hoping someone may have some pointers for me. If it matters, the sae 5000 looked to be set up for 220 volt operation even though there was no sticker on the back indicating that but I changed it back to 110 volt and also added an on off switch. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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File : Searching the archives.doc Description : A how to...plus some gotchas you need to know.

Manuals, Part Cross References & Schematics..ect: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SAE_Talk/links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SAE_Talk/files Repair/restore/rebuild Shops: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SAE_Talk/database

This is an automated message sent upon subscription and as a Monthly reminder. Revised 6/17/04 Mark Gurries ======== LIST RULES ========== This list has a set of rules governing the discussion topics so that we maintain the focus of the group. LIMITED SALES OF ANY PRODUCT OR MERCHANDISE INCLUDING SAE STUFF 1) No UNSOLICITED direct offers of "FOR SALE" items allowed on this SAE-TALK list. This list is not an EBAY or Audiogon. Only in rare, special cases are sales allowed upon the PRIOR discretionary approval of the Moderator. It better be very special!!! Everyday SAE stuff sold on EBAY is not special. 2) If one wishes to SELL something IN RESPONSE to a request "I'm looking for", do the actual sales OFF this list. 3) We can talk about items posted for sale in a public forum (EBAY/AUDIOGON) as long as it is related to Q&A in the spirit of this list function (production history, design, modifications, cost history, possible problems with the products and technical stuff). If this stuff gets out of hand, sales of any kind will be banned. REPAIR SERVICES Offers to do repair services or are allowed. However, all offers must be in direct RESPONSE to a request like "I'm looking for someone to repair...". Final discussions for actual work must be made OFF list. No SOLICITATION or independent advertisements allowed on the list. Repair Shops may post DIRECT weblinks to their place of business in the LINKS folder of this list website. If this stuff gets out of hand, it will be banned. POSTING OF TECHNICAL INFORMATION Offers to supply technical information or documentation are allowed. However, all offers must be in direct RESPONSE to a request like "I'm looking for someone who has a schematic too...". Final discussions for actual transfer of information must be made OFF list. No SOLICITED or independent advertisements allowed on the list. Unfortunately there is not enough disk space on the Yahoo list website to store all the technical information about Audio products we talk about. However, everyone is encouraged to post WEBLINKS to show where one can get documentation and information. This can include places that sell documentation. Weblinks are to be placed in the LINKs area of this list website. USAGE OF THE FILES AREA There are many folders containing information in the Files area. However space is VERY limited. At this time, people must obtain permission from a list moderator to post files in this area. We are trying to store information that is not publicly available or is very rare. USAGE OF THE PHOTO AREA. If you have some pictures of equipment you would like to post, this is the place to do it. However, space for these photos is shared with all the other files of this list. Keep the photo images small and compressed. Keep them to about 40K each. Moderators reserve the right to remove photos at any time as needed to manage the website disk space. MESSAGE CONDUCT Everyone must respect each other on this list. ANYONE with direct personal derogatory comments about another person in terms of them being a human being is not allowed. Technical debates, however heated, must not use foul language. Repeated offenses (they are accumulative) can lead to banning from the list. THE 10 Commandments of Email: Thou shalt include a clear and specific subject line. Thou shalt edit any quoted text down to the minimum thou needest. Thou shalt read thine own message thrice before thou sendest it. Thou shalt ponder how thy recipient might react to thy message. Thou shalt check thy spelling and thy grammar. Thou shalt not curse, flame, spam or USE ALL CAPS. Thou shalt not forward any chain letter. Thou shalt not use e-mail for any illegal or unethical purpose. Thou shalt not rely on the privacy of e-mail, especially from work. When in doubt, save thy message overnight and reread it in the light of the dawn. And, here's the "Golden Rule" of E-Mail: That which thou findest hateful to receive, sendest thou not unto others.

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I'm trying to work out the wrinkles with my p101 premap. It has been sitting, and the sound was distorted. I cleaned all of the relays, and initially there was still some noise, but gradually things improved. Now, all I have is a little noise on the stereo reverb switch, which goes away if I leave it selected. This leaves me wondering. Could the improvement over time be an issue with capacitors and not relays?

If anyone has rack handles that would fit a SAE 2600 that they are willing to sell please contact me. sjohnston1@... Thanks! Steve

I have found that today’s preamps do not have switched outlets, which poses problems as I contemplate a newer preamp. My SAE MARK IVC has no power switch and was designed to plug into a switched outlet. I have also learned that some people have a power “ purifier “ to clean up the house power coming into their sound system. Any elegant solutions to my problem that don’t cost a small fortune such as the power “ purifiers “? Thanks

Hello: I have had a Mark IVC for about 20 years. I inherited it from my dad, who bought it new. It still works nicely, but I suspect it could use some TLC if not more. The alternative is a new Yamaha receiver, but I don't know how well a Yamaha receiver with a comparable power rating would compare. I have Altec Lansing 312 speakers and a 25 year old ( at least ) Yamaha preamp. I would like to find a shop that does SAE repair/ restorations. Any thoughts would be welcome.