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In deciding to put together an older stereo system, I went to
research. Having never heard of SAE...I have learned a lot about the
company in the last few weeks. However, I have FAR too much left to
learn! Heck...most of the SAE equipment was put out before I was
even born!

After running across Wardsweb.org, I found the SAE 02 series. And
after reading up on the SAE history, and reading through past posts
on this group, I have come to question whether or not I should
purchase the 02 series equipment.

I'm not looking into thousands of dollars in audio
equipment...although I want some good stuff. I have considered
simply purhcasing brand new Onkyo or Pioneer equipment....but I think
I like the look and (what I've heard) of SAE better.

My question is this. How does the SAE 02 series (wasn't it actually
in production before the company was actually sold?) compare to the
Pioneer, Onkyo, Kenwood, etc... of today? As I will tell you, I am
not a great deal experienced with audio equipment, and (as I said
earlier) I am merely interested in a good stereo system for my home
that will put out some good, clear music and go to moderetly loud
levels (nothing like a Dance Hall...simply for the home user). Will
the 02 series stand up to normal use everyday (I am VERY good on my
equipment)?

I have also considered some Carver equipment (equipment made in late
80s and early-mid 90s) for my home stereo system, however I am unsure
of both. I am really unsure as to how they would stand up?

I have found an SAE T102 Tuner for $45 plus shipping, and I am
thinking about purchasing it.

I need some help and assistance here, and even if I DON'T end up with
SAE equipment, I will help you guys anyway I can as far as support
and info on the equipment (I have managed to learn quite a bit over
the past week or so; I started out the kind of guy that was happy
with his Fisher mini-shelf system) and I am definately ready to make
the step into high-end equipment. However in todays market, I have
found it hard to find high-end equipment for an even remotely
reasonable cost.

Any help and info on the SAE 02 series would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

Kenny Burkhart

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Please forgive me here if I may sound a little "ignorant" of this
subject. I am now aware to stear clear of the SAE II series, and I
thank you for that.

You said the T102 was made here in the states. Does that mean that
all of the 102 (P102, C102, D102, A102, etc.) series equipment was
also made here in the states? I was thinking (correct me if I'm
wrong) that this equipment was actually already designed and in
production BEFORE the company was actually sold. Is that correct?
So if that IS correct, then that means this would be the last of the
GOOD SAE home audio equipment?

So you are saying, if I CAN find the SAE series "102" equipment in
good condition (not worked on, still in original shape) that it is
good stuff?

Thanks,
Kenny Burkhart

PS: I really appreciate the help. SAE people are so nice! LOL

--- In SAE_Talk@..., James Bongiorno <sstinc@e...> wrote:

Dear Kenny,
I will try to answer your questions. Since I was the Director of

Engineering

at SAE in the "Golden Years" I think I know more about the products

than

anyone. First of all, DO NOT consider buying any of the SAE II

gear. Not

because it isn't decent, but this gear was designed and built by

both

Marubene in Japan, but mostly by Inkel in Korea. Service and parts

for this

gear are NON-existant. Also, if you are contemplating buying any

audio gear

off the Web, the only thing that I can say is Caveat Emptor, that

is buyer

beware. A good portion of the stuff offered is either completely

blown up,

or in sad need of repair. What you need to do is to look for

prestigious

gear that was made in the mid 70's through the early 80's. At least

these

pieces would have been made here and for the most part, can still be
serviced. Be prepared to pay to have any gear that you purchase,

serviced

and/or repaired.
May I recommend the following: SAE, GAS, SUMO. Stay away

from the

cheap stuff--you get what you pay for. Also, I would advise against

any of

the older or even current Japanese gear, NOT because they aren't

made well

as they are, but rather, the Orientals have yet not learned how to

make

things sound right.
Finally, the T-102 is a great buy at that price and it was

made here

and not in the orient.
James Bongiorno

Kenny Burkhart wrote:

In deciding to put together an older stereo system, I went to
research. Having never heard of SAE...I have learned a lot about

the

company in the last few weeks. However, I have FAR too much left

to

learn! Heck...most of the SAE equipment was put out before I was
even born!

After running across Wardsweb.org, I found the SAE 02 series. And
after reading up on the SAE history, and reading through past

posts

on this group, I have come to question whether or not I should
purchase the 02 series equipment.

I'm not looking into thousands of dollars in audio
equipment...although I want some good stuff. I have considered
simply purhcasing brand new Onkyo or Pioneer equipment....but I

think

I like the look and (what I've heard) of SAE better.

My question is this. How does the SAE 02 series (wasn't it

actually

in production before the company was actually sold?) compare to

the

Pioneer, Onkyo, Kenwood, etc... of today? As I will tell you, I

am

not a great deal experienced with audio equipment, and (as I said
earlier) I am merely interested in a good stereo system for my

home

that will put out some good, clear music and go to moderetly loud
levels (nothing like a Dance Hall...simply for the home user).

Will

the 02 series stand up to normal use everyday (I am VERY good on

my

equipment)?

I have also considered some Carver equipment (equipment made in

late

80s and early-mid 90s) for my home stereo system, however I am

unsure

of both. I am really unsure as to how they would stand up?

I have found an SAE T102 Tuner for $45 plus shipping, and I am
thinking about purchasing it.

I need some help and assistance here, and even if I DON'T end up

with

SAE equipment, I will help you guys anyway I can as far as support
and info on the equipment (I have managed to learn quite a bit

over

the past week or so; I started out the kind of guy that was happy
with his Fisher mini-shelf system) and I am definately ready to

make

the step into high-end equipment. However in todays market, I

have

found it hard to find high-end equipment for an even remotely
reasonable cost.

Any help and info on the SAE 02 series would be greatly

appreciated.

Thanks.

Kenny Burkhart

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Kenny-

I sense some confusion here. I think maybe James is referring to the
"SAE TWO" equipment and you are referring to SAE's "02" series of
their "Computer Direct Line" equipment. I could be wrong.

Jeff Hodge

--- In SAE_Talk@..., "Kenny Burkhart" <klburkhart@k...> wrote:

Please forgive me here if I may sound a little "ignorant" of this
subject. I am now aware to stear clear of the SAE II series, and I
thank you for that.

You said the T102 was made here in the states. Does that mean that
all of the 102 (P102, C102, D102, A102, etc.) series equipment was
also made here in the states? I was thinking (correct me if I'm
wrong) that this equipment was actually already designed and in
production BEFORE the company was actually sold. Is that correct?
So if that IS correct, then that means this would be the last of

the

GOOD SAE home audio equipment?

So you are saying, if I CAN find the SAE series "102" equipment in
good condition (not worked on, still in original shape) that it is
good stuff?

Thanks,
Kenny Burkhart

PS: I really appreciate the help. SAE people are so nice! LOL

--- In SAE_Talk@..., James Bongiorno <sstinc@e...> wrote:

Dear Kenny,
I will try to answer your questions. Since I was the Director of

Engineering

at SAE in the "Golden Years" I think I know more about the

products

than

anyone. First of all, DO NOT consider buying any of the SAE II

gear. Not

because it isn't decent, but this gear was designed and built by

both

Marubene in Japan, but mostly by Inkel in Korea. Service and

parts

for this

gear are NON-existant. Also, if you are contemplating buying any

audio gear

off the Web, the only thing that I can say is Caveat Emptor, that

is buyer

beware. A good portion of the stuff offered is either completely

blown up,

or in sad need of repair. What you need to do is to look for

prestigious

gear that was made in the mid 70's through the early 80's. At

least

these

pieces would have been made here and for the most part, can still

be

serviced. Be prepared to pay to have any gear that you purchase,

serviced

and/or repaired.
May I recommend the following: SAE, GAS, SUMO. Stay away

from the

cheap stuff--you get what you pay for. Also, I would advise

against

any of

the older or even current Japanese gear, NOT because they aren't

made well

as they are, but rather, the Orientals have yet not learned how

to

make

things sound right.
Finally, the T-102 is a great buy at that price and it was

made here

and not in the orient.
James Bongiorno

Kenny Burkhart wrote:

In deciding to put together an older stereo system, I went to
research. Having never heard of SAE...I have learned a lot

about

the

company in the last few weeks. However, I have FAR too much

left

to

learn! Heck...most of the SAE equipment was put out before I

was

even born!

After running across Wardsweb.org, I found the SAE 02 series.

And

after reading up on the SAE history, and reading through past

posts

on this group, I have come to question whether or not I should
purchase the 02 series equipment.

I'm not looking into thousands of dollars in audio
equipment...although I want some good stuff. I have considered
simply purhcasing brand new Onkyo or Pioneer equipment....but I

think

I like the look and (what I've heard) of SAE better.

My question is this. How does the SAE 02 series (wasn't it

actually

in production before the company was actually sold?) compare to

the

Pioneer, Onkyo, Kenwood, etc... of today? As I will tell you,

I

am

not a great deal experienced with audio equipment, and (as I

said

earlier) I am merely interested in a good stereo system for my

home

that will put out some good, clear music and go to moderetly

loud

levels (nothing like a Dance Hall...simply for the home user).

Will

the 02 series stand up to normal use everyday (I am VERY good

on

my

equipment)?

I have also considered some Carver equipment (equipment made in

late

80s and early-mid 90s) for my home stereo system, however I am

unsure

of both. I am really unsure as to how they would stand up?

I have found an SAE T102 Tuner for $45 plus shipping, and I am
thinking about purchasing it.

I need some help and assistance here, and even if I DON'T end

up

with

SAE equipment, I will help you guys anyway I can as far as

support

and info on the equipment (I have managed to learn quite a bit

over

the past week or so; I started out the kind of guy that was

happy

with his Fisher mini-shelf system) and I am definately ready to

make

the step into high-end equipment. However in todays market, I

have

found it hard to find high-end equipment for an even remotely
reasonable cost.

Any help and info on the SAE 02 series would be greatly

appreciated.

Thanks.

Kenny Burkhart

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Jeff:

This is correct. Forgive me for not making that clear in the
original post. I should have said "Computer Direct-Line." I am
sorry.

I am aware that the SAE TWO equipment is garbage (I personally think
it LOOKS cheesy). I am curious however, to the quality of the "02"
Series (Computer Direct-Line).

Thanks, and sorry for any confusion.

Kenny

--- In SAE_Talk@..., jefhodge@b... wrote:

Kenny-

I sense some confusion here. I think maybe James is referring to

the

"SAE TWO" equipment and you are referring to SAE's "02" series of
their "Computer Direct Line" equipment. I could be wrong.

Jeff Hodge



--- In SAE_Talk@..., "Kenny Burkhart" <klburkhart@k...>

wrote:

Please forgive me here if I may sound a little "ignorant" of this
subject. I am now aware to stear clear of the SAE II series, and

I

thank you for that.

You said the T102 was made here in the states. Does that mean

that

all of the 102 (P102, C102, D102, A102, etc.) series equipment

was

also made here in the states? I was thinking (correct me if I'm
wrong) that this equipment was actually already designed and in
production BEFORE the company was actually sold. Is that

correct?

So if that IS correct, then that means this would be the last of

the

GOOD SAE home audio equipment?

So you are saying, if I CAN find the SAE series "102" equipment

in

good condition (not worked on, still in original shape) that it

is

good stuff?

Thanks,
Kenny Burkhart

PS: I really appreciate the help. SAE people are so nice! LOL

--- In SAE_Talk@..., James Bongiorno <sstinc@e...> wrote:

Dear Kenny,
I will try to answer your questions. Since I was the Director

of

Engineering

at SAE in the "Golden Years" I think I know more about the

products

than

anyone. First of all, DO NOT consider buying any of the SAE II

gear. Not

because it isn't decent, but this gear was designed and built

by

both

Marubene in Japan, but mostly by Inkel in Korea. Service and

parts

for this

gear are NON-existant. Also, if you are contemplating buying

any

audio gear

off the Web, the only thing that I can say is Caveat Emptor,

that

is buyer

beware. A good portion of the stuff offered is either

completely

blown up,

or in sad need of repair. What you need to do is to look for

prestigious

gear that was made in the mid 70's through the early 80's. At

least

these

pieces would have been made here and for the most part, can

still

be

serviced. Be prepared to pay to have any gear that you

purchase,

serviced

and/or repaired.
May I recommend the following: SAE, GAS, SUMO. Stay

away

from the

cheap stuff--you get what you pay for. Also, I would advise

against

any of

the older or even current Japanese gear, NOT because they

aren't

made well

as they are, but rather, the Orientals have yet not learned how

to

make

things sound right.
Finally, the T-102 is a great buy at that price and it

was

made here

and not in the orient.
James Bongiorno

Kenny Burkhart wrote:

In deciding to put together an older stereo system, I went to
research. Having never heard of SAE...I have learned a lot

about

the

company in the last few weeks. However, I have FAR too much

left

to

learn! Heck...most of the SAE equipment was put out before I

was

even born!

After running across Wardsweb.org, I found the SAE 02

series.

And

after reading up on the SAE history, and reading through past

posts

on this group, I have come to question whether or not I should
purchase the 02 series equipment.

I'm not looking into thousands of dollars in audio
equipment...although I want some good stuff. I have

considered

simply purhcasing brand new Onkyo or Pioneer equipment....but

I

think

I like the look and (what I've heard) of SAE better.

My question is this. How does the SAE 02 series (wasn't it

actually

in production before the company was actually sold?) compare

to

the

Pioneer, Onkyo, Kenwood, etc... of today? As I will tell you,

I

am

not a great deal experienced with audio equipment, and (as I

said

earlier) I am merely interested in a good stereo system for

my

home

that will put out some good, clear music and go to moderetly

loud

levels (nothing like a Dance Hall...simply for the home

user).

Will

the 02 series stand up to normal use everyday (I am VERY good

on

my

equipment)?

I have also considered some Carver equipment (equipment made

in

late

80s and early-mid 90s) for my home stereo system, however I

am

unsure

of both. I am really unsure as to how they would stand up?

I have found an SAE T102 Tuner for $45 plus shipping, and I am
thinking about purchasing it.

I need some help and assistance here, and even if I DON'T end

up

with

SAE equipment, I will help you guys anyway I can as far as

support

and info on the equipment (I have managed to learn quite a

bit

over

the past week or so; I started out the kind of guy that was

happy

with his Fisher mini-shelf system) and I am definately ready

to

make

the step into high-end equipment. However in todays market,

I

have

found it hard to find high-end equipment for an even remotely
reasonable cost.

Any help and info on the SAE 02 series would be greatly

appreciated.

Thanks.

Kenny Burkhart

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