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Late '60's early '70's "High End"


Paul Anthony Bigelow
 

Hello,

What constitiuted the U.S. "high end" in the late tube, early
transistor days? From what I can remember, it would be
SAE, Threshold, GAS, McIntosh, and Audio Research. Who else
was present at the time (and considered "high end")?

Best regards,

Paul Bigelow


James Bongiorno
 

Dear Paul,
Substitute Marantz (tubes) for Mackintosh.
James

Paul Anthony Bigelow wrote:

Hello,

What constitiuted the U.S. "high end" in the late tube, early
transistor days? From what I can remember, it would be
SAE, Threshold, GAS, McIntosh, and Audio Research. Who else
was present at the time (and considered "high end")?

Best regards,

Paul Bigelow

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Paul- Late 60's was pretty much McIntosh, Marantz, Crown, perhaps Fisher to
a point - by 72-73 SAE, Phase Linear and Audio Research were there- - but
the Japanese were opening up the consumer market and creating a $ gap that
forced the older American companies either out or to the orient- that
started a new low volume American response with companies like Threshold
and Gas to get into the market by mid 70's.
Sony was the only true Japanese company making "high end" separates at the
time and Marantz was owned by Superscope- the Sony tape distributer in the
US at that time- They had moved all their production to the orient by then.
I owned high end shop during that period and to my best memory that is a
simplified answer. Am sure I missed someone and didn't include numerous
"esoteric" small companies that proiduced some interesting equipment but
never really got into the market
Andy


On Tue, 02 May 2000 20:53:16 -0000, SAE_Talk@... wrote:

Hello,

What constitiuted the U.S. "high end" in the late tube, early
transistor days? From what I can remember, it would be
SAE, Threshold, GAS, McIntosh, and Audio Research. Who else
was present at the time (and considered "high end")?

Best regards,

Paul Bigelow


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Some of the HK Citation product line was pretty decent as well. I don't
really think Threshold has been around since late days of tube era.

Armin Paya

Paul Anthony Bigelow wrote:


Hello,

What constitiuted the U.S. "high end" in the late tube, early
transistor days? From what I can remember, it would be
SAE, Threshold, GAS, McIntosh, and Audio Research. Who else
was present at the time (and considered "high end")?

Best regards,

Paul Bigelow

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Paul Anthony Bigelow
 

Hello James and Armin,

To me, anyway, there seemed to be a point in the very
early 70's where Marantz sort of stopped being "high
end" and more "consumer grade". It also seemed to
me at about this time the "high end" as we know it
started to be born.

At this point, I think Marantz had stopped using tubes
and McIntosh was just about to stop. At this crossover
SAE and Audio Research started up soon to be joined by
GAS.

It is this period I am referring to and the other
companies that may have been started. The early
days of tube are quite heavily documented. Early
solid state, in my opinion, is sparsely documented.

Best regards,

Paul Bigelow

--- In SAE_Talk@..., Armin Paya <apaya@s...> wrote:
Some of the HK Citation product line was pretty decent as well. I
don't
really think Threshold has been around since late days of tube era.

Armin Paya

Paul Anthony Bigelow wrote:

Hello,

What constitiuted the U.S. "high end" in the late tube, early
transistor days? From what I can remember, it would be
SAE, Threshold, GAS, McIntosh, and Audio Research. Who else
was present at the time (and considered "high end")?

Best regards,

Paul Bigelow

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James Bongiorno
 

Dear Paul,
Actually, you are right about Marantz. They did stop designing tube stuff in
1965. However, that's when Sidney was developing the very nice Marantz model
15 power amp (1966) of which I was the cleanup engineer on. Even by today's
standards, this amp would hold its own although it's only 70 watts/channel.
If I do my upgrade on one, it becomes quite formidable.
James

Paul Anthony Bigelow wrote:

Hello James and Armin,

To me, anyway, there seemed to be a point in the very
early 70's where Marantz sort of stopped being "high
end" and more "consumer grade". It also seemed to
me at about this time the "high end" as we know it
started to be born.

At this point, I think Marantz had stopped using tubes
and McIntosh was just about to stop. At this crossover
SAE and Audio Research started up soon to be joined by
GAS.

It is this period I am referring to and the other
companies that may have been started. The early
days of tube are quite heavily documented. Early
solid state, in my opinion, is sparsely documented.

Best regards,

Paul Bigelow

--- In SAE_Talk@..., Armin Paya <apaya@s...> wrote:
Some of the HK Citation product line was pretty decent as well. I
don't
really think Threshold has been around since late days of tube era.

Armin Paya

Paul Anthony Bigelow wrote:

Hello,

What constitiuted the U.S. "high end" in the late tube, early
transistor days? From what I can remember, it would be
SAE, Threshold, GAS, McIntosh, and Audio Research. Who else
was present at the time (and considered "high end")?

Best regards,

Paul Bigelow

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James Bongiorno
 

Dear Armin,
Forget about HK. I wouldn't hit a dog in the #$% with the stuff that they
made. Their emphasis has always been Japanese through and through. The only
thing that they ever did in the last 25 years that held any prospect of
performance was the Citation 23 tuner but not in its delivered form. They are
a CHEAP organization and although they paid be big bucks to completely
redesign the unit, which I did, and the results were quite spectacular, they
opted not to make it because it cost too much and had too many "adjustments".
When are people going to learn that you can NOT make a great tuner without
adjustments. Its not ever going to happen.
James

Armin Paya wrote:

Some of the HK Citation product line was pretty decent as well. I don't
really think Threshold has been around since late days of tube era.

Armin Paya

Paul Anthony Bigelow wrote:

Hello,

What constitiuted the U.S. "high end" in the late tube, early
transistor days? From what I can remember, it would be
SAE, Threshold, GAS, McIntosh, and Audio Research. Who else
was present at the time (and considered "high end")?

Best regards,

Paul Bigelow

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