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Re: 3 Questions

 

The airbox was designed to the correct volume for resonant tuning, gives meaningful bump to power in the tuned RPM band. Use one along with a proper air filter and cold air trunking, K&N's for DCOE look cool and add bark to the induction noise but, as Bill says, draw hot engine bay air plus are not well regarded in terms of filtration. Carb related fires have been a major peril for cars fitted with the 900 series lotus engine, with total loss of the vehicle a real possibility. Electronic triggered distributor does not eliminate the hazard as there are still arcs on the high tension side from rotor to plug wire posts. Conversion to crank-fired, distributor-less layout resolves a number of issues and will help reduce the fire risk.? Effective measures that mitigate much of the Webers' leaking, not to mention performance shortcomings, are to be had over on the Sidedraft forum hosted at the attached link. Highly recommended.

https://vintagetechnologygarage.groups.io/g/sidedraft/topics

Cheers
Steve


Re: 3 Questions

 

Go for the Standard filter/trumpets/airbox
re route the intake trunking to the airbox so that the right side cooling ¡°ear¡± intake supplies it.
I fitted megajolt distributorless ignition to mine in 2009.
never looked back since


Re: 3 Questions

 

On 2022-05-22 19:08, ZenHorizon via groups.io wrote:
I have a 79 series 2 esprit. I am close to done with the car, but have
2 bigh items coming up. I have weber 45 dcoe's that the previous owner
installed years ago. I rebuilt them with a kit, but there are no
velocity stacks. I know the engine was known as the torque less
wonder, But i dont know what Stacks i Shoudl run. My car has no
airbox, and i have a dreaded fear of the car catching fire due to
leaky carbs. So my question is what stacks should I run for the best
sound and least chance of leaks, or what air filters on the carbs for
the 907.
My 2nd question is I just installed 2 new fuel tanks for sps
sportscars. I have run the main line from both tanks from the fill
port to the tank and the bigger vent to the tanks as well as a new
style cross over pipe. I noticed on the drawings and on the filler
neck there is a very small port and it shows a hose going to an evap
tank. My car doesnt have this and I cannot find one on any vendor. DO
I need this or is there any other way to set something up with those
holes. As it is I am afraid gas will pour out that little port when I
do fill ups or put fumes into the engine bay.
My 3rd question is do they make a cover for the distributor so if gas
does leak it doesn't start a fire? I have seen rubber distributor
covers on other cars but cant find an option for our model of
distributor. If i went electronic distributor would it eliminate this
threat? I researched distributorless ignition and lotus pbc sells a
kit but its rather pricey but looks nice.
Regards, Blake in norfolk, VA
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Blake,

1. Sj Sportscars sells the trumpets for the S1/S2 with Dellorto carbs, for $18 each. These are also available for Dellorto suppliers as well, but price may vary greatly.

I am an Aeronautical Engineer, and did the calculations once on the effects of running without an airbox. The engine would be sucking in warm or hot air instead of the coolest air available. I wrote up my findings in a paper, which you can find on my web site:
www.holycows.net\Lotus
The airbox and back panel are available from SJ.
If you question my findings, please name all the cars that come from the factory without a cold air induction system. I'll wait. ?

3. I took a plastic container and sliced it vertically so that it slips over the distributor, which keeps fuel off of the distributor. Also make it a habit to turn the fuel pump on and check for leaks anytime that you work on anything back there, and on a regular basis

Bill
77 S1 "Charro"
79 S2 JPS Federal 24


3 Questions

 

I have a 79 series 2 esprit. I am close to done with the car, but have 2 bigh items coming up. I have weber 45 dcoe's that the previous owner installed years ago. I rebuilt them with a kit, but there are no velocity stacks. I know the engine was known as the torque less wonder, But i dont know what Stacks i Shoudl run. My car has no airbox, and i have a dreaded fear of the car catching fire due to leaky carbs. So my question is what stacks should I run for the best sound and least chance of leaks, or what air filters on the carbs for the 907.

My 2nd question is I just installed 2 new fuel tanks for sps sportscars. I have run the main line from both tanks from the fill port to the tank and the bigger vent to the tanks as well as a new style cross over pipe. I noticed on the drawings and on the filler neck there is a very small port and it shows a hose going to an evap tank. My car doesnt have this and I cannot find one on any vendor. DO I need this or is there any other way to set something up with those holes. As it is I am afraid gas will pour out that little port when I do fill ups or put fumes into the engine bay.?

?My 3rd question is do they make a cover for the distributor so if gas does leak it doesn't start a fire? I have seen rubber distributor covers on other cars but cant find an option for our model of distributor. If i went electronic distributor would it eliminate this threat? I researched distributorless ignition and lotus pbc sells a kit but its rather pricey but looks nice.?

Regards, Blake in norfolk, VA


Oil Switch, Federal

 

Is the psi value known for the oil switch in series with the Anti Run-On Valve??


Re: [LotusEliteType14] Esprit prototype

 

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Further down as if Doug Fraser sent it, I just forwarded and went as that, LotusChrysler engine in an Esprit, Gordon

On May 13, 2022, at 10:42 PM, wigl@... wrote:

?Hey Gordon, nothing attached to your posting.


Re: [LotusEliteType14] Esprit prototype

 

Hey Gordon, nothing attached to your posting.


[LotusEliteType14] Esprit prototype

 

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Got off Type 14 list!


Begin forwarded message:

From: Douglas Fraser <lotuar@...>
Date: May 13, 2022 at 7:53:30 AM CDT
To: [email protected]
Subject: [LotusEliteType14] Esprit prototype
Reply-To: [email protected]

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I don¡¯t subscribe to any of the Esprit groups, but I thought this was interesting.

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In the ¡°Where is it now?¡± category, the prototype Lotus/Chrysler Esprit:

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This photo was sent to me by Michael Royce, who was the program manager of several projects at

Lotus Engineering during the mid-80¡¯s.

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He said he has no idea where the car may have ended up.

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-Doug


Re: Don't use anti-seize on NGK spark plugs

 

Great info, Bill, thanks!


Don't use anti-seize on NGK spark plugs

 

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Ran across an interesting article while researching plug for my Jaguar XKR, but it applies to our Lotus cars as well

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1. Anti-seize

NGK spark plugs feature trivalent plating. This silver or chrome-colored finish on the threads is designed to provide corrosion resistance against moisture and chemicals. The coating also acts as a release agent during spark plug removal. NGK spark plugs are installed at the factory dry, without lubrication or anti-seize.

Anti-seize can act as a lubricant, altering torque values up to 20 percent, increasing the risk of spark plug thread breakage and/or metal shell stretch. Thread breakage can sometimes involve removing the cylinder head for repair. Metal shell stretch changes the heat rating of the spark plug and can result in serious engine damage caused by pre-ignition. Do not use anti-seize or lubricant on NGK spark plugs. It is completely unnecessary and can be detrimental.

2. Corona stain

Corona stain is a light brown or tan discoloration on the outside of the ceramic insulator above the metal shell/hex. Corona stain is created by the high voltage traveling thru the plug that attracts the dirt or oil particles surrounding the exposed ceramic insulator between the wire/coil boot and spark plug metal shell. Corona stain is completely normal and should not be mistaken for exhaust gas blow-by or a broken seal inside the spark plug.

3. Gapping fine-wire spark plugs

While most NGK spark plugs are pre-gapped, there are occasions when the gap requires adjustment. Care must be taken to avoid bending or breaking off the fine-wire electrodes. NGK recommends a round wire-style or pin gauge gap tool to measure the gap. If the gap must be adjusted, use a tool that only moves the ground electrode and does not pry between or against the electrodes. NGK also recommends adjusting the gap no more than +/- 0.008¡± from the factory preset gap.

4. Torque

Torque is crucial in the ability of the plug to dissipate heat and perform properly. Always follow the manufacturer recommended torque specification. An under-torqued spark plug can lead to excessive vibration and improper heat dissipation, causing spark plug and/or engine damage. Over torquing may cause any of the following: thread damage/breakage, compromised internal seals leading to gas leakage, metal shell stretch leading to poor heat dissipation and pre-ignition.

5.¡°Copper spark plugs¡±

¡°Copper spark plugs¡± is a term often used to describe a standard material spark plug. However, this terminology is incorrect, as standard material plugs do not have electrodes made from copper. Copper is soft with a low melting point and cannot be used for electrodes, as they would wear very quickly. A standard material spark plug uses a nickel-alloy that may include a small copper core. The copper core has nothing to do with the electrical performance of the spark plug. A copper core is used to increase heat dissipation and durability by lowering the electrode temperatures. Nearly all NGK spark plugs, including precious metal iridium and platinum plugs, have a copper core to increase the electrode durability. Special nickel alloys, platinum, and iridium electrodes, along with copper cores are all used to enhance durability ¨C durability meaning how long a spark plug will last before it needs to be replaced.

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Re: Mounting Sun Visors

 

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Back to sunvisors for just a moment as I¡¯m not a hat guy at all and sunvisors are useful in Texas with that big windshield so here¡¯s a look at what it is cut open, and I just cut open one side and took out the guts and then reuse the black side and replaced the white side which was all shredded with a kind of muslin fabric you see next to it; I took a thick piece of foam rubber and split it around the edge to let it capture the metal frame of the visor and then I put tape all around it and then put it in the remade fabric piece along with new metal attachment points that I got from from SJ, Gordon

On Apr 19, 2022, at 8:57 AM, LYN A WECHSLER <ESPRIT@...> wrote:

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Have you seen this ¡°sun visor¡±?? Supposed to be ¡°official¡± from the mother country.
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From: Bill Galbraith
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2022 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [S1S2euroS3LotusEspritOwners] Mounting Sun Visors
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Toaph,

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Be the first in your neighborhood to have the advanced Head-mounted sun visor. ?

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Bill

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LowkeyNr1 Lotus Cars Sign Adjustable Peaked Baseball Caps ...

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Toaph via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2022 8:34 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [S1S2euroS3LotusEspritOwners] Mounting Sun Visors

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You guys with your sun visors.? It is a luxury I expect to never know in my S1.? I actually have the originals in a box somewhere, but the thing they attach to is fubar.? Maybe after a few years of "trouble-free" driving it'll rise up in my priorities.

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-- Toaph, 464H

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On Monday, April 18, 2022, 08:36:12 PM EDT, gsauerphd1 via groups.io <gsauerphd@...> wrote:

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Yes, I cut the threads and undid it and took the deteriorated foam out and put new foam in and a waterproof kind of piece of cardboard that they use in car work to give it body and then thin foam on either side to give it about the thickness that it had and then sewed it back together, Gordon



On Apr 18, 2022, at 3:39 PM, palmer.jeff@... wrote:

?On a related note, has anyone restored his/her sun visors? If so, how? Mine are like bags full of decomposed foam.
Thanks,
Jeff, 139H

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Virus-free.


Re: Mounting Sun Visors

 

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Have you seen this ¡°sun visor¡±?? Supposed to be ¡°official¡± from the mother country.
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From: Bill Galbraith
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2022 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [S1S2euroS3LotusEspritOwners] Mounting Sun Visors
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Toaph,

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Be the first in your neighborhood to have the advanced Head-mounted sun visor. ?

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Bill

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LowkeyNr1 Lotus Cars Sign Adjustable Peaked Baseball Caps ...

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Toaph via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2022 8:34 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [S1S2euroS3LotusEspritOwners] Mounting Sun Visors

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You guys with your sun visors.? It is a luxury I expect to never know in my S1.? I actually have the originals in a box somewhere, but the thing they attach to is fubar.? Maybe after a few years of "trouble-free" driving it'll rise up in my priorities.

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-- Toaph, 464H

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On Monday, April 18, 2022, 08:36:12 PM EDT, gsauerphd1 via groups.io <gsauerphd@...> wrote:

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Yes, I cut the threads and undid it and took the deteriorated foam out and put new foam in and a waterproof kind of piece of cardboard that they use in car work to give it body and then thin foam on either side to give it about the thickness that it had and then sewed it back together, Gordon



On Apr 18, 2022, at 3:39 PM, palmer.jeff@... wrote:

?On a related note, has anyone restored his/her sun visors? If so, how? Mine are like bags full of decomposed foam.
Thanks,
Jeff, 139H

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Virus-free.


Re: Mounting Sun Visors

 

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Love it. Great idea.

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Do you wear your Lotus shirt to the John Deere gathering?

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Toaph via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2022 8:48 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [S1S2euroS3LotusEspritOwners] Mounting Sun Visors

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Okay, now that we're sliding off topic...

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I own a few marques that are known for brand loyalty: Citroen, Volvo, VW.? When I go to meets I see plenty of people wearing the brand apparel.? But when I started going to Lotus meets, I found that EVERYONE was wearing Lotus stuff.? I mean every single person without exception was festooned in ACBC logos.? I'm a little bit too much of an iconoclast for that.? The more something is expected the more I tend to reject it.? I've ultimately taken to wearing John Deere apparel when I attend Lotus events, because the colors are almost exactly the same.? Plus I love the non sequitur.??

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-- Toaph

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On Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 08:39:38 AM EDT, Bill Galbraith <lotus@...> wrote:

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Toaph,

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Be the first in your neighborhood to have the advanced Head-mounted sun visor. ?

?

Bill

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?

LowkeyNr1 Lotus Cars Sign Adjustable Peaked Baseball Caps ...

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Toaph via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2022 8:34 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [S1S2euroS3LotusEspritOwners] Mounting Sun Visors

?

You guys with your sun visors.? It is a luxury I expect to never know in my S1.? I actually have the originals in a box somewhere, but the thing they attach to is fubar.? Maybe after a few years of "trouble-free" driving it'll rise up in my priorities.

?

-- Toaph, 464H

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On Monday, April 18, 2022, 08:36:12 PM EDT, gsauerphd1 via groups.io <gsauerphd@...> wrote:

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Yes, I cut the threads and undid it and took the deteriorated foam out and put new foam in and a waterproof kind of piece of cardboard that they use in car work to give it body and then thin foam on either side to give it about the thickness that it had and then sewed it back together, Gordon

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On Apr 18, 2022, at 3:39 PM, palmer.jeff@... wrote:

?On a related note, has anyone restored his/her sun visors? If so, how? Mine are like bags full of decomposed foam.
Thanks,?
Jeff, 139H

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Virus-free.


Re: Mounting Sun Visors

 

Okay, now that we're sliding off topic...

I own a few marques that are known for brand loyalty: Citroen, Volvo, VW.? When I go to meets I see plenty of people wearing the brand apparel.? But when I started going to Lotus meets, I found that EVERYONE was wearing Lotus stuff.? I mean every single person without exception was festooned in ACBC logos.? I'm a little bit too much of an iconoclast for that.? The more something is expected the more I tend to reject it.? I've ultimately taken to wearing John Deere apparel when I attend Lotus events, because the colors are almost exactly the same.? Plus I love the non sequitur.??

-- Toaph

On Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 08:39:38 AM EDT, Bill Galbraith <lotus@...> wrote:


Toaph,

?

Be the first in your neighborhood to have the advanced Head-mounted sun visor. ?

?

Bill

?

?

LowkeyNr1 Lotus Cars Sign Adjustable Peaked Baseball Caps ...

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Toaph via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2022 8:34 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [S1S2euroS3LotusEspritOwners] Mounting Sun Visors

?

You guys with your sun visors.? It is a luxury I expect to never know in my S1.? I actually have the originals in a box somewhere, but the thing they attach to is fubar.? Maybe after a few years of "trouble-free" driving it'll rise up in my priorities.

?

-- Toaph, 464H

?

On Monday, April 18, 2022, 08:36:12 PM EDT, gsauerphd1 via groups.io <gsauerphd@...> wrote:

?

?

Yes, I cut the threads and undid it and took the deteriorated foam out and put new foam in and a waterproof kind of piece of cardboard that they use in car work to give it body and then thin foam on either side to give it about the thickness that it had and then sewed it back together, Gordon



On Apr 18, 2022, at 3:39 PM, palmer.jeff@... wrote:

?On a related note, has anyone restored his/her sun visors? If so, how? Mine are like bags full of decomposed foam.
Thanks,?
Jeff, 139H

?

Virus-free.


Re: Mounting Sun Visors

 

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Toaph,

?

Be the first in your neighborhood to have the advanced Head-mounted sun visor. ?

?

Bill

?

?

LowkeyNr1 Lotus Cars Sign Adjustable Peaked Baseball Caps ...

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Toaph via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2022 8:34 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [S1S2euroS3LotusEspritOwners] Mounting Sun Visors

?

You guys with your sun visors.? It is a luxury I expect to never know in my S1.? I actually have the originals in a box somewhere, but the thing they attach to is fubar.? Maybe after a few years of "trouble-free" driving it'll rise up in my priorities.

?

-- Toaph, 464H

?

On Monday, April 18, 2022, 08:36:12 PM EDT, gsauerphd1 via groups.io <gsauerphd@...> wrote:

?

?

Yes, I cut the threads and undid it and took the deteriorated foam out and put new foam in and a waterproof kind of piece of cardboard that they use in car work to give it body and then thin foam on either side to give it about the thickness that it had and then sewed it back together, Gordon



On Apr 18, 2022, at 3:39 PM, palmer.jeff@... wrote:

?On a related note, has anyone restored his/her sun visors? If so, how? Mine are like bags full of decomposed foam.
Thanks,?
Jeff, 139H

?

Virus-free.


Re: Mounting Sun Visors

 

You guys with your sun visors.? It is a luxury I expect to never know in my S1.? I actually have the originals in a box somewhere, but the thing they attach to is fubar.? Maybe after a few years of "trouble-free" driving it'll rise up in my priorities.

-- Toaph, 464H

On Monday, April 18, 2022, 08:36:12 PM EDT, gsauerphd1 via groups.io <gsauerphd@...> wrote:


Yes, I cut the threads and undid it and took the deteriorated foam out and put new foam in and a waterproof kind of piece of cardboard that they use in car work to give it body and then thin foam on either side to give it about the thickness that it had and then sewed it back together, Gordon

On Apr 18, 2022, at 3:39 PM, palmer.jeff@... wrote:

?On a related note, has anyone restored his/her sun visors? If so, how? Mine are like bags full of decomposed foam.
Thanks,?
Jeff, 139H


Re: Mounting Sun Visors

 

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Yes, I cut the threads and undid it and took the deteriorated foam out and put new foam in and a waterproof kind of piece of cardboard that they use in car work to give it body and then thin foam on either side to give it about the thickness that it had and then sewed it back together, Gordon

On Apr 18, 2022, at 3:39 PM, palmer.jeff@... wrote:

?On a related note, has anyone restored his/her sun visors? If so, how? Mine are like bags full of decomposed foam.
Thanks,?
Jeff, 139H


Re: Mounting Sun Visors

 

On a related note, has anyone restored his/her sun visors? If so, how? Mine are like bags full of decomposed foam.
Thanks,?
Jeff, 139H


Re: Mounting Sun Visors

Marlow42
 

Hope this helps.... ?I have more images.


9XX Valve Stem Height

 

Does anyone know the Lotus factory spec for the valve stem height in:

1) the Lotus 9XX cylinder heads (907, 910, 911, 912, 920)?

2) the Lotu Twin Cam Ford cylinder heads?

In the attached Jpeg, dimension 'A' (lower right corner) is just an example of what I'm after (it's for a Porsche 911).