Found this at the Container store today
John Griffin
On Thursday, September 13, 2018 Jim King <[email protected]> wrote:
Recent threads re: white storage boxes and a web link prompted me to buy a bundle of 10 x 4 x 2 to try.? Easily ordered Saturday night.? The bundle of 50 arrived today via UPS Ground wrapped in several layers of Saran wrap.? The boxes are clean, undamaged and fold easily but are about half the thickness of most kit boxes I¡¯ve bought over the years.? However, considering that all paper products I buy for kit production have increased in price by at least 40% over the past year and the shipping charge often runs another 30-40% of the items¡¯ total, I¡¯m satisfied with this cheaper alternative, especially since all the sizes I need are available. ? I did read ebay feedback for the past 6 months before placing the order.? Most of the negative comments related to cheaper quality blister envelopes.? I think 1 or 2 stated there was damage to white boxes.? I will order from this place again.? Even if a few of the outer boxes did sustain shipping damage, the 60 cent per box price, including shipping, makes trashing a few worth the risk.? Thicker-walled boxes including UPS Ground of the same 10 x 4 x 2 size will cost $1.00 each and add to a kit¡¯s postage price.? Here¡¯s the link: ? ? Jim King
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Re: Possible S Scale Lightweight Passenger Car Sets
On Wednesday, September 12, 2018, 10:14:44 PM EDT, Jerry Poniataowski <poniaj@...> wrote:
Gents,While perusing the O Gauge Online Forum ( S Page) I came across this message:
Folks,
We have the opportunity to make some Aluminum sets for S Scale. What do you guys need? Thinking, SF Super Chief, Broadway Limited, Columbian, SP Daylight. Looking for some discussion. Sorry, not individual cars, but 6 to 8 car, full length, scale sets.
Your thoughts?
Scott Mann - China
3rd Rail
Here's a link to the actual site if you're interested:? I hope I did the link right...
Jerry PoniatowskiWayne, M
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Jim, ? ? Nice find! Now that would be a project I could involve myself in, converting the AM Northern into an AT&SF 2-10-4, anyone ever have thoughts on this? The late Dave Felmley and I talked about this awhile ago and he sent me drawings of both engines, they are very, very close in all dimensions boiler-wise, a scale model would have compromises anyway and the differences were minor. Tenders were identical. ? ? ?Bud Rindfleisch
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Recent threads re: white storage boxes and a web link prompted me to buy a bundle of 10 x 4 x 2 to try.? Easily ordered Saturday night.? The bundle of 50 arrived today via UPS Ground wrapped in several layers of Saran wrap.? The boxes are clean, undamaged and fold easily but are about half the thickness of most kit boxes I¡¯ve bought over the years.? However, considering that all paper products I buy for kit production have increased in price by at least 40% over the past year and the shipping charge often runs another 30-40% of the items¡¯ total, I¡¯m satisfied with this cheaper alternative, especially since all the sizes I need are available. ? I did read ebay feedback for the past 6 months before placing the order.? Most of the negative comments related to cheaper quality blister envelopes.? I think 1 or 2 stated there was damage to white boxes.? I will order from this place again.? Even if a few of the outer boxes did sustain shipping damage, the 60 cent per box price, including shipping, makes trashing a few worth the risk.? Thicker-walled boxes including UPS Ground of the same 10 x 4 x 2 size will cost $1.00 each and add to a kit¡¯s postage price.? Here¡¯s the link: ? ? Jim King
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On 9/13/2018 3:00 PM, Richard Karnes, Editor, NMRA S Scale SIG,
sscale.org via Groups.Io wrote:
I remember a prototype photo that showed turntable rails
extended a couple of feet beyond the edge of the pit so as
to accommodate longer locomotives without rebuilding the
pit.
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I like the photo of a UP centipede tank with wedges under the front
wheels of the centipede frame lifting the back into the air to clear
the roundhouse tracks.?? I think it was in an old Model Railroader.
Take care
Bill
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Jim Kindraka Grand Rapids, MI
I remember a prototype photo that showed turntable rails extended a couple of feet beyond the edge of the pit so as to accommodate longer locomotives without rebuilding the pit.
Dick Karnes ============= On Thursday, September 13, 2018, 10:59:42 AM PDT, Bob Werre <bob@...> wrote:
How long should a turntable be?? I fought with that a long time.then
decided that the OMI UP FEF would probably be the longest engine I would
own.? It also would allow for a two unit diesel consists except for E
unit's.? I didn't want to do what some of the prototypes did to avoid
lengthening their tables,---they raised the pilot or tender wheels off
the rails to gain that last several feet.? Actually adding length
wouldn't be too much of problem, it would be the digging out the pit all
around, or in our case tearing out the entire thing!
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I remember a prototype photo that showed turntable rails extended a couple of feet beyond the edge of the pit so as to accommodate longer locomotives without rebuilding the pit.
Dick Karnes sscale.org =============
On Thursday, September 13, 2018, 10:59:42 AM PDT, Bob Werre <bob@...> wrote:
How long should a turntable be?? I fought with that a long time.then
decided that the OMI UP FEF would probably be the longest engine I would
own.? It also would allow for a two unit diesel consists except for E
unit's.? I didn't want to do what some of the prototypes did to avoid
lengthening their tables,---they raised the pilot or tender wheels off
the rails to gain that last several feet.? Actually adding length
wouldn't be too much of problem, it would be the digging out the pit all
around, or in our case tearing out the entire thing!
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How long should a turntable be?? I fought with that a long time.then decided that the OMI UP FEF would probably be the longest engine I would own.? It also would allow for a two unit diesel consists except for E unit's.? I didn't want to do what some of the prototypes did to avoid lengthening their tables,---they raised the pilot or tender wheels off the rails to gain that last several feet.? Actually adding length wouldn't be too much of problem, it would be the digging out the pit all around, or in our case tearing out the entire thing!
I do own a 4-6-6-4 Challenger but it doesn't call my roundhouse home for that reason.? When I acquired a SP 2-10-2 I checked out the clearance because we had gained a set of drivers but all of them were smaller than the big UP engine, so I lucked out.? Also, I had made one stall of my roundhouse longer to accept an extra long engine, but now two would be handy.? All the other stalls are about right for a Mike or slightly longer.? The FEF has been around for a long time w/o paint so hiding it in the long roundhouse stall will probably happen.? It's the only engine that's not for sale unpainted, so after some E unit's are painted I'll have to work on that guy.
Bob Werre
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On 9/12/18 6:55 PM, Mike Swederska wrote: I read your post after I was finished running a fast freight. I had taken this picture of the first time this locomotive road the TT getting ready for that trip out early today. After your mentioning your heavy Mike I thought I would post a picture of mine in service.
The size of the TT is one of those hart stoppers as your putting the largest locomotive built to date on it. She fit and all is well with the world.
Mike Swederska Sr
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Re: Panel & Rivet Lining Techniques
Very interesting video.? I like how the Tamiya weathering solution creeps into everything with a minimum of work.? Of course after watching that I fell into the YouTube pit and started watching Adam Savages workshop videos.? Always something to learn.??
Jim Martin
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 9:23 AM, J. Kindraka <kindrakaj@...> wrote: Hi Jim:
Kinda dropped the ball on responding... sorry.? Glenn sent me a rough draft of his article to proofread so I know he is working!? He also sent the link below about the Tamiya product he used.? It's military modeler stuff but I've always felt there is a lot to be learned from those guys! Hope all is well...
Jim
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Carpet tape and camper tape caution
Group, I recall reading an article on camper tape in Model Railroader.? They agree it is very quieting, but there is a BIG ISSUE? with camper tape.?? Should you lean on the track installed over the camper tape, the soft tape will compress allowing your track (rail) to bend down, often PERMANENTLY.
Terry Dillon
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Panel & Rivet Lining Techniques
Hi Jim:
Kinda dropped the ball on responding... sorry.? Glenn sent me a rough draft of his article to proofread so I know he is working!? He also sent the link below about the Tamiya product he used.? It's military modeler stuff but I've always felt there is a lot to be learned from those guys! Hope all is well...
Jim
On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Jim & Cheryl Martin <themartins@...> wrote: Yeah, I'd like to see that article too.
Jim Martin _ _._,_._,_
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David
I am twenty pounds overweight now that you mention it . I am heavy. I didn¡¯t realize how dark the picture was on the locomotive when I upload it. It was a photo for my self really and wasn¡¯t taken to share. Sorry for the poor quality.
Mike S
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Mike Swederska Sr
Modeling the Mopac rolling stock in 3/16
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Possible S Scale Lightweight Passenger Car Sets
Gents,While perusing the O Gauge Online Forum ( S Page) I came across this message:
Folks,
We have the opportunity to make some Aluminum sets for S Scale. What do you guys need? Thinking, SF Super Chief, Broadway Limited, Columbian, SP Daylight. Looking for some discussion. Sorry, not individual cars, but 6 to 8 car, full length, scale sets.
Your thoughts?
Scott Mann - China
3rd Rail
Here's a link to the actual site if you're interested:? I hope I did the link right...
Jerry PoniatowskiWayne, M
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Trial Ballon: Scale Length Passenger Cars
This trail balloon went up from Scott Mann of Scale 3rd Rail under the Golden Gate Depot branding over on OGR:
Folks,
We have the opportunity to make some Aluminum sets for S Scale. What do you guys need? Thinking, SF Super Chief, Broadway Limited, Columbian, SP Daylight. Looking for some discussion. Sorry, not individual cars, but 6 to 8 car, full length, scale sets.
Your thoughts?
Scott Mann - China
3rd Rail
Scott has an opportunity right now to make about 100 of anything in S.
Just passing this along.?
Rich G(ajnak)
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Mike?! Hi, mike. Is this a new trend...naming locomotives after the modeler's name? I'm any case it's an impressive loco...!
Regards, David Moore.
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Ironically... with all the discussion of roadbed and noise... I came across this product today in the HVAC warehouse I now work in... (see attached pix)
This is a 2-sided tape... made by DiversiTech for insulating gaps between metal duct and HVAC units and/or other metal duct, etc,... it appears to be about 1/16" thick (according to my eye) (even though it says 1/8")... is 2" wide... comes in a 30' roll... and is apparently made of some type of black cork (nothing like any cork I've ever seen or used, but I'll take their word for it).? I bought one roll of it today (my price was just a hair over $8. with my employee discount, but I've seen it retail for as much as $30.
I am not yet building a layout, so I can't really test it... but if anyone wants to buy my roll and test it... it's yours for $8 + $8 for shipping.? (PayPal -? GIFT method, please)
References :
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DiversiTech also makes a Foam Insulation Tape :
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John D Scaler164@...
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Mike ? Give that loco a trip through the blast booth and get some paint on it! ? Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! ? See my layout progress at:
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold & Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
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It's FREE to join!??
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
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This is my cut lever kit. 1 size fits all. I have made truly 100s of them. Note the Lindstrom tools ¨C my favorite. Bending cut levers are not difficult or that time consuming once you get past the first try. It helps to have my cut lever bracket ¨C the first casting I made 20ish years ago. ? ? Earl¡¯s Carmer cut levers were first made for my X29. They are bent bars and top lift, not suitable for many cars. ? Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987
See my finished models at:
Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! ? See my layout progress at:
PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold & Traded
(Trading is MUCH preferred)
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Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society
It's FREE to join!??
Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
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Chris,
I use a 25 watt, 100 watt, Butane Benzomatic hand torch and a homemade resistance soldering unit.
I generally go thru both irons half way thru a locomotive project.
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Mike Swederska Sr
Modeling the Mopac rolling stock in 3/16
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I read your post after I was finished running a fast freight. I had taken this picture of the first time this locomotive road the TT getting ready for that trip out early today. After your mentioning your heavy Mike I thought I would post a picture of mine in service.
The size of the TT is one of those hart stoppers as your putting the largest locomotive built to date on it. She fit and all is well with the world.
Mike Swederska Sr
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Mike Swederska Sr
Modeling the Mopac rolling stock in 3/16
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Dick Karnes, MMR
Bob Werre
Jerry Poniatowski
John Degnan
Bill Lane