Re: Different coupler types on the same layout
By my reckoning, the distance between cars using standard 802 mounting is about 3.5 scale feet be it AM, PRS or SHS.? Is 3/32nds of a real inch really worth worrying about??
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My eyes went out of calibration some time ago.
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Rich G(ajnak)
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Re: Different coupler types on the same layout
< Prototype distance between car ends is 3’> ? Bud, I agree.? However that is not what I’ve observed with 802s.? I believe you can tinker with the 802 to get it to the 3 ft spacing.? But out of the box, without altering, I don’t think so.? Also for me is the cost.? The #5 family of couplers is significantly cheaper.? And then there is the variety of shank length and coupler placement on the shank.? Another thing is the newer ‘whisker’ design for the centering spring. ? < the uncoupling pins on the 5's are too short if you are using magnetic uncoupling> ? No need to bend the pin down if you use duel magnets for your uncoupling ramps.? See attached photos… ? Tom Stoltz in Maine
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You might think that having 10 SW1 might be enough. But maybe not. I have 2 more I would like to make – Southern and Conrail. ? I am not in any hurry but if you have any preferably unlettered SHS SW1 # 00442 you want to sell I could be interested….. ? Thank You,
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Re: Different coupler types on the same layout
As I don't do a lot of switching, I've cut back on replacing AM's Snap-Lock couplers with 802's.? I'll replace them occasionally, especially locomotives, but othrwise I'm in no hurry.
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Rich G(ajnak)
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Re: Different coupler types on the same layout
I have a mix of 802's and #5's, although they look nice and are more common the uncoupling pins on the 5's are too short if you are using magnetic uncoupling.? You can bend them down to where they will activate but they lose their lever arm and won't fully open.
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Found the video. It 32 oz of water. Here it is. https://youtu.be/_cxuULWCmZI?si=b7-Sq5Tn0IORuc77
On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 10:41 AM, Tom Lennon via groups.io <milepost169@...> wrote: Hi Griff, clarify for me.
8oz. Water 6 drops dw rinse 6 drops glycerine? ?oz. acrylic paint Can't wait to try it out. Tommy Just saw a YouTube that recommended NOT using windshield wash.
His formula was water, ,8 oz I think, 6 drops of dishwasher rinse and a similar volume of glycerine.
The dishwasher rinse acts as a surfactant.
Griff? On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 2:52 PM, J. Kindraka via Tom: Glycerine is a carbohydrate, not an oil.? I believe it is in a group of what are called "sugar alcohols".? It is completely soluble in water.? Google it!?? Google probably has a more succinct explanation than this
wobbly bodied, shaking hands, poor visioned, S-Scale, model building microbiologist can provide... ?.
BTW, I sent a private note to Mike S.? I would hardly call his Frisco model "just another boxcar" - really nice work Mike! Jim Kindraka Grand Rapids, MI On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 1:51?PM Tom Lennon wrote:
I jest Mike, but isn't glycerine an oil? Is it water soluble?
I also watched a YouTube video that recommended using windshield washer fluid. Took me a couple of hours to disassemble the airbrush and clean out the solidified acrylic...but I'm still having fun. Tommy?
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Tom
I believe it's to taste and how it sprays.
On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 10:41 AM, Tom Lennon via groups.io <milepost169@...> wrote: Hi Griff, clarify for me.
8oz. Water 6 drops dw rinse 6 drops glycerine? ?oz. acrylic paint Can't wait to try it out. Tommy Just saw a YouTube that recommended NOT using windshield wash.
His formula was water, ,8 oz I think, 6 drops of dishwasher rinse and a similar volume of glycerine.
The dishwasher rinse acts as a surfactant.
Griff? On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 2:52 PM, J. Kindraka via Tom: Glycerine is a carbohydrate, not an oil.? I believe it is in a group of what are called "sugar alcohols".? It is completely soluble in water.? Google it!?? Google probably has a more succinct explanation than this
wobbly bodied, shaking hands, poor visioned, S-Scale, model building microbiologist can provide... ?.
BTW, I sent a private note to Mike S.? I would hardly call his Frisco model "just another boxcar" - really nice work Mike! Jim Kindraka Grand Rapids, MI On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 1:51?PM Tom Lennon wrote:
I jest Mike, but isn't glycerine an oil? Is it water soluble?
I also watched a YouTube video that recommended using windshield washer fluid. Took me a couple of hours to disassemble the airbrush and clean out the solidified acrylic...but I'm still having fun. Tommy?
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FS: River Raisin GE 44-tonner
Probably my favorite prototype, but I am ambivalent about needing three of these (plus three SMMW kits and a Penn Heritage and two LWS).
So to see whether anyone wants one more than I do, here is a strict mint (I don't think I've even test-run it), asking $475 and shipping.
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Re: Different coupler types on the same layout
My reason for starting off with?#5 couplers was the fact that I had a lot of them after changing over from HO..
I do use the 800 series on cars that I take to the club display.
Ken G. ?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 5:57?PM Bud Rindfleisch via <BlackDiamondRR= [email protected]> wrote: I don’t get why some use the HO #5 couplers to get “closer” coupling. Prototype distance between car ends is 3’ other than modern day cushion draft couplings. I’ve found that the 802’s give that prototypical 3 foot distance. As a retired 31 year railroader I sure appreciated that amount of room to go between to couple air hoses, anything less would’ve been difficult, even before I put on the added weight!? ? ?Bud Rindfleisch
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Re: Different coupler types on the same layout
Hi Bud, What’s the average length of an air hose?
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On Feb 14, 2025, at 5:57?PM, Bud Rindfleisch via groups.io <BlackDiamondRR@...> wrote:
?I don’t get why some use the HO #5 couplers to get “closer” coupling. Prototype distance between car ends is 3’ other than modern day cushion draft couplings. I’ve found that the 802’s give that prototypical 3 foot distance. As a retired 31 year railroader I sure appreciated that amount of room to go between to couple air hoses, anything less would’ve been difficult, even before I put on the added weight! ? ? ?Bud Rindfleisch
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Re: Different coupler types on the same layout
I don’t get why some use the HO #5 couplers to get “closer” coupling. Prototype distance between car ends is 3’ other than modern day cushion draft couplings. I’ve found that the 802’s give that prototypical 3 foot distance. As a retired 31 year railroader I sure appreciated that amount of room to go between to couple air hoses, anything less would’ve been difficult, even before I put on the added weight! ? ? ?Bud Rindfleisch
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Does anyone have contact info for Chris Rooney?
Thanks
Ed Sauers
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Gaylord Gill in April 2025 MODEL RAILROADER
The April 2025 digital edition of MODEL RAILROADER is out.? Why the April issue is out in mid-February isn't clear (!) but there's a nice 1/2 page photo of Gaylord Gill's layout in the TRACKSIDE PHOTOS feature.? Gaylord's is the first of about 8 photos I collected and submitted to MR.? ?Thanks to all those who offered images!? 72,000 readers will see Gaylord's nice photo...and Eric left the link to the NASG website in the caption we prepared so maybe we'll generate some 'traffic' to the site.
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My offer remains open to assist anyone who wants to submit a photo to MR.
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By the way, I noticed the April issue has shrunk to 68 pages, down about 10% from 76 pages in March.
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Brooks Stover
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On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 06:20 AM, Pieter Roos wrote:
clearly what drives the more successful scales is variety of product.
Pieter hit the nail on the head.? All the S talk and pictures has not (yet) brought forth any significant new products to S scale.? Maybe working as a collective entity and combining money would help.? Or, actively soliciting a Sugar Daddy to step up.? Or anything that aims at making new products rather than more and more videos.? Don't get me wrong, I like the videos, but they do not bring new products to the market.? Serious money out there needs to recognize S as an opportunity.
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Ed Loizeaux
Los Altos, CA
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Re: LATEST PROJECT ON MILFORD VALLEY RR
Thanks Jamie,? I have 6 coal cars and 3 cattle cars dedicated to the coal mine and cattle Company. I have one track that veers to the north of the coal mine as a line that is used to place cars that the Q could pick up but that is only set up to give reason for switching the cars out.? ?I want to build a coal dump space on the track by the cattle company ?I have room for a one car dump to ad another place to switch the cars.? I run it Deadrail Blunami , it’s pretty easy to spend 30 minutes or more just switching the two businesses. I love the sound of the S1 switcher growling up and down the tracks.? Fred
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On Feb 14, 2025, at 4:51 AM, Jamie Bothwell via groups.io <jamie.bothwell610@...> wrote:
? So Fred, Do you just 0-5-0 cars up to the section? Does it have a dedicated set of cars to push around up there? I'd say you're well on your way with the photo stuff. Jamie Bothwell Bethlehem, PA On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 10:49?AM Tom Nebelsick via <tnebelsick= [email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 7:06?PM Fred SCHLEGEL via <fredschlegel7= [email protected]> wrote: I had an eight inch x 8 foot space on the back side wall of my layout that needed to be filled to connect the Hudson Coal Co. mine to the Reinmiller Cattle Co at the other end of the layout. It is 31/2 inches taller than the layout? below it. I didn't want to connect it to the main layout because of the ramp it would take and no room to do it, so I just made it into a switching module to transfer coal cars and cattle?cars back and?forth. I am running it deadrail so no wiring was necessary. I have been having fun using my deadrail Bluenami equipped?SHS S1? CB&Q switcher to switch the area.? I also sent some pictures to Webmaster Peter for possible publication of which he said the phone pictures were to small to blow up for the website. So I down loaded?Brook Stovers layout photography article and bought a couple of LED photo lamps on tripods and set my Fugi?point and shoot camera on tripod and his setting suggestions. There is a lot to learn to get to his quality of photos but I feel I got a good start. I did send a few pictures to Terry Okelly? to see if they were good enough quality for the Dispatch. Will wait to see what he has to say. Here are a few shots of the switching module if just?finished from the coal mine.? There is a lot to learn and time consuming in trying to get a good picture but kind of a fun?project. Fred Schlegel
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Re: Craig Wright's Chama and Toltec Westerb
It was fun watching the presentation live.
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His fearlessness in redoing stuff, adding, tweaking, is amazing.
On 02/14/2025 10:19 AM EST Brooks Stover via groups.io <bcstover@...> wrote:
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Craig Wright's presentation of his C&TW Sn3 layout that was presented recently on a narrow gauge forum is now available for viewing on YouTube:
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I think it's fair to say Craig's layout is among the finest ever built in any scale at any time in the history of our great hobby.? His presentation is worth watching.? The layout is an inspiration.? Simply stunning!
Brooks Stover
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Wow, Pieter.
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THAT'S a radical thought.
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In my case, my reasons for considering S Hi Rail as my last layout theme is pretty much for exactly?the reasons you mention:
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* Easier to?handle than HO. (Including easier to re-rail/etc.)
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* More rubust than my fragile HO models.
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* I would have "Outgrown" (i.e. aged out) the desire to add detail. (Simply becomes too tedious and not fun.)
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As I stated, I see S Hi Rail as an opporunity for me to see visually pleasing trains running on 2 rails that are larger and more robust for my 80+ year old hands to deal with.
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Frankly, what I will eventually face (hope to, anyway!), will be faced by a LOT of HO modelers. The stuff just gets too small as we age.
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However, on a down note, most of those will simply let their HO?layout and equipment sit and languish instead of being proactive and making an alternate?way to enjoy trains.
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That is going to be my challenge: To not ride the HO train too long to where I don't have the phyical ability or energy to dismantle and dispose of the HO. I will need to recognize when the time is right, and begin the change before that time arrives.
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Worse comes to worse, I can at least start my S Hi Rail project as I tend to the duties of dismantling/disposing of the HO. That way I have trains running in short order so I can always enjoy the fun of miniature trains moving on miniature rails!
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ALWAYS have a plan. (That's the slogan I?live by! LOL!)
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Andre Ming
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Hi Griff, clarify for me.
8oz. Water 6 drops dw rinse 6 drops glycerine? ?oz. acrylic paint Can't wait to try it out. Tommy
Just saw a YouTube that recommended NOT using windshield wash.
His formula was water, ,8 oz I think, 6 drops of dishwasher rinse and a similar volume of glycerine.
The dishwasher rinse acts as a surfactant.
Griff? On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 2:52 PM, J. Kindraka via Tom: Glycerine is a carbohydrate, not an oil.? I believe it is in a group of what are called "sugar alcohols".? It is completely soluble in water.? Google it!?? Google probably has a more succinct explanation than this
wobbly bodied, shaking hands, poor visioned, S-Scale, model building microbiologist can provide... ?.
BTW, I sent a private note to Mike S.? I would hardly call his Frisco model "just another boxcar" - really nice work Mike! Jim Kindraka Grand Rapids, MI On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 1:51?PM Tom Lennon wrote:
I jest Mike, but isn't glycerine an oil? Is it water soluble?
I also watched a YouTube video that recommended using windshield washer fluid. Took me a couple of hours to disassemble the airbrush and clean out the solidified acrylic...but I'm still having fun. Tommy?
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Craig Wright's Chama and Toltec Westerb
Craig Wright's presentation of his C&TW Sn3 layout that was presented recently on a narrow gauge forum is now available for viewing on YouTube:
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I think it's fair to say Craig's layout is among the finest ever built in any scale at any time in the history of our great hobby.? His presentation is worth watching.? The layout is an inspiration.? Simply stunning!
Brooks Stover
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On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 06:20 AM, Pieter Roos wrote:
- what if embracing hi-rail and and simply pushing for more new product was the real answer?
EXACTLY!!!!? After all, the difference is only in wheels and couplers...
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Rich G(ajnak)
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Bill Lane
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