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[EXTERNAL] [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] SD Cards Erased Upon Removal? #hampi #hardware #pi #raspberrypi #usability


 

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The RPi uses a different file system that a PC, which is why we use an ¡°Etcher¡± program to make a few FS¡­ you¡¯d also need to use that Etcher to make a backup Image of the file system (with files) on your SD card¡­ and then you could use Etcher to Etch a new card using that pre-populated image (and carry that spare card as your just-in-case SD card. ?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David AJ6RE via groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2021 5:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] SD Cards Erased Upon Removal? #hampi #hardware #pi #raspberrypi #usability

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After successfully using my Rpi 4 B+ for a few months as part of my homebrew mobile manpack rig I decided to back up the SD card prior to installing a GPS dongle. I did a sudo shutdown -h now and powered down. When I stuck the SD card it into my PC it was blank, save for the volume label.?

After failed attempts to recover the data, I flashed a new card, installed Hampi again, started reconfiguring Flrig etc., Then I decided to double-check the new card. I did the graceful shutdown before pulling the card out but evidently wiped that one as well at some point in the process. All files were gone but for a couple of text files and the volume label.

Subsequent online research indicates maybe I didn't let the pi shut down all the way before pulling the card. I did not know to wait for flashing lights after shutting down. However, I'm pretty sure I powered it down all the way after several seconds.?After spending hours flashing cards and looking forward to the prospect of going back to square one yet again and then reconfiguring the software again, and hoping it doesn't happen a third time, I am thinking the pi may just be too fragile a system to rely upon for emergency/mobile comms. It seems crazy that the SD card should be so vulnerable to erasure simply by being extracted from the Pi.?

At this point I am planning on just using the Toughbook that I was using as a keyboard/screen interface to host the software and cut out the Pi. It's a shame since I've invested countless hours in getting Hampi up and running.

Has anyone else had this experience?

David AJ6RE??


Christopher Rose
 

Turn off the pi power supply, unplug it if necessary to make sure the pi is off before pulling as card?

On Aug 13, 2021 11:39 PM, "David Harris via groups.io" <v-zonkeh@...> wrote:

The RPi uses a different file system that a PC, which is why we use an ¡°Etcher¡± program to make a few FS¡­ you¡¯d also need to use that Etcher to make a backup Image of the file system (with files) on your SD card¡­ and then you could use Etcher to Etch a new card using that pre-populated image (and carry that spare card as your just-in-case SD card. ?

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?????? -Z-

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David AJ6RE via groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2021 5:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] SD Cards Erased Upon Removal? #hampi #hardware #pi #raspberrypi #usability

?

After successfully using my Rpi 4 B+ for a few months as part of my homebrew mobile manpack rig I decided to back up the SD card prior to installing a GPS dongle. I did a sudo shutdown -h now and powered down. When I stuck the SD card it into my PC it was blank, save for the volume label.?

After failed attempts to recover the data, I flashed a new card, installed Hampi again, started reconfiguring Flrig etc., Then I decided to double-check the new card. I did the graceful shutdown before pulling the card out but evidently wiped that one as well at some point in the process. All files were gone but for a couple of text files and the volume label.

Subsequent online research indicates maybe I didn't let the pi shut down all the way before pulling the card. I did not know to wait for flashing lights after shutting down. However, I'm pretty sure I powered it down all the way after several seconds.?After spending hours flashing cards and looking forward to the prospect of going back to square one yet again and then reconfiguring the software again, and hoping it doesn't happen a third time, I am thinking the pi may just be too fragile a system to rely upon for emergency/mobile comms. It seems crazy that the SD card should be so vulnerable to erasure simply by being extracted from the Pi.?

At this point I am planning on just using the Toughbook that I was using as a keyboard/screen interface to host the software and cut out the Pi. It's a shame since I've invested countless hours in getting Hampi up and running.

Has anyone else had this experience?

David AJ6RE??



Christopher Rose
 

SD card

On Aug 14, 2021 9:43 AM, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
Turn off the pi power supply, unplug it if necessary to make sure the pi is off before pulling as card?

On Aug 13, 2021 11:39 PM, "David Harris via groups.io" <v-zonkeh@...> wrote:

The RPi uses a different file system that a PC, which is why we use an ¡°Etcher¡± program to make a few FS¡­ you¡¯d also need to use that Etcher to make a backup Image of the file system (with files) on your SD card¡­ and then you could use Etcher to Etch a new card using that pre-populated image (and carry that spare card as your just-in-case SD card. ?

?

?????? -Z-

?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David AJ6RE via groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2021 5:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] SD Cards Erased Upon Removal? #hampi #hardware #pi #raspberrypi #usability

?

After successfully using my Rpi 4 B+ for a few months as part of my homebrew mobile manpack rig I decided to back up the SD card prior to installing a GPS dongle. I did a sudo shutdown -h now and powered down. When I stuck the SD card it into my PC it was blank, save for the volume label.?

After failed attempts to recover the data, I flashed a new card, installed Hampi again, started reconfiguring Flrig etc., Then I decided to double-check the new card. I did the graceful shutdown before pulling the card out but evidently wiped that one as well at some point in the process. All files were gone but for a couple of text files and the volume label.

Subsequent online research indicates maybe I didn't let the pi shut down all the way before pulling the card. I did not know to wait for flashing lights after shutting down. However, I'm pretty sure I powered it down all the way after several seconds.?After spending hours flashing cards and looking forward to the prospect of going back to square one yet again and then reconfiguring the software again, and hoping it doesn't happen a third time, I am thinking the pi may just be too fragile a system to rely upon for emergency/mobile comms. It seems crazy that the SD card should be so vulnerable to erasure simply by being extracted from the Pi.?

At this point I am planning on just using the Toughbook that I was using as a keyboard/screen interface to host the software and cut out the Pi. It's a shame since I've invested countless hours in getting Hampi up and running.

Has anyone else had this experience?

David AJ6RE??




 

uh NO!? The files are not being erased and the SD card is NOT blank!

The "few" files that you can see are in the BOOT partition and it is formatted as FAT which windoz can see.
The main partition is formatted for Linus, in EXT4 and windoz can not see them.
Be careful because windoz can see this partition as another disk drive and wants to format it. DO NOT FORMAT IT!


There are several ways to backup your SD card:


-david



On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 9:08 AM Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
SD card

On Aug 14, 2021 9:43 AM, Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...> wrote:
Turn off the pi power supply, unplug it if necessary to make sure the pi is off before pulling as card?

On Aug 13, 2021 11:39 PM, "David Harris via " <v-zonkeh=[email protected]> wrote:

The RPi uses a different file system that a PC, which is why we use an ¡°Etcher¡± program to make a few FS¡­ you¡¯d also need to use that Etcher to make a backup Image of the file system (with files) on your SD card¡­ and then you could use Etcher to Etch a new card using that pre-populated image (and carry that spare card as your just-in-case SD card. ?

?

?????? -Z-

?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David AJ6RE via
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2021 5:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] SD Cards Erased Upon Removal? #hampi #hardware #pi #raspberrypi #usability

?

After successfully using my Rpi 4 B+ for a few months as part of my homebrew mobile manpack rig I decided to back up the SD card prior to installing a GPS dongle. I did a sudo shutdown -h now and powered down. When I stuck the SD card it into my PC it was blank, save for the volume label.?

After failed attempts to recover the data, I flashed a new card, installed Hampi again, started reconfiguring Flrig etc., Then I decided to double-check the new card. I did the graceful shutdown before pulling the card out but evidently wiped that one as well at some point in the process. All files were gone but for a couple of text files and the volume label.

Subsequent online research indicates maybe I didn't let the pi shut down all the way before pulling the card. I did not know to wait for flashing lights after shutting down. However, I'm pretty sure I powered it down all the way after several seconds.?After spending hours flashing cards and looking forward to the prospect of going back to square one yet again and then reconfiguring the software again, and hoping it doesn't happen a third time, I am thinking the pi may just be too fragile a system to rely upon for emergency/mobile comms. It seems crazy that the SD card should be so vulnerable to erasure simply by being extracted from the Pi.?

At this point I am planning on just using the Toughbook that I was using as a keyboard/screen interface to host the software and cut out the Pi. It's a shame since I've invested countless hours in getting Hampi up and running.

Has anyone else had this experience?

David AJ6RE??