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I received my Raspberry Pi 4 Model B a week or so back but have not had time to fire it up.? It has a copyright date of 2018 on the PCB
Booting PiGate v1.5 does NOT work.
Booting PiGate v2.2 DOES work.
I know Mark had trouble with later PiGates he purchased in 2021 I think it was.? I am wondering if this Pi 4 is a model prior to those that are not working for him.? I suspect it may be due to the copyright date being 2018.
Mark, do you still have the Pi 4 that did not work with your latest PiGate image?? Does it have a different copyright date on the PCB?? Maybe there is some other way to distinguish them, but I only have this one that is working.
Asa? Jay
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Asa,
I have not personally had any Pi4 that does not work with the latest PiGate software.? I am only going on a report by one person that I cannot confirm.
If your newly purchased Pi4 works with the latest PiGate image, then you're good to go.? No need to change anything.
Mark KD0QYN
On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 10:44:38 PM CDT, TSC-60 Man Washington via groups.io <asajay@...> wrote:
I received my Raspberry Pi 4 Model B a week or so back but have not had time to fire it up.? It has a copyright date of 2018 on the PCB
Booting PiGate v1.5 does NOT work.
Booting PiGate v2.2 DOES work.
I know Mark had trouble with later PiGates he purchased in 2021 I think it was.? I am wondering if this Pi 4 is a model prior to those that are not working for him.? I suspect it may be due to the copyright date being 2018.
Mark, do you still have the Pi 4 that did not work with your latest PiGate image?? Does it have a different copyright date on the PCB?? Maybe there is some other way to distinguish them, but I only have this one that is working.
Asa? Jay
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Copyright date isn't date of manufacture.? It has no bearing on whether it boots or not.? Check the board for revision numbers. At one point the board changed slightly, and so did the onboard boot firmware.? Your board appears to be a later pi4 with the newer bootloader, so the old OS build doesn't boot out of the box.
I'm willing to bet that if you ran sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y && sudo rpi-eeprom-update and rebooted then put the older version in it would boot
Get
On Jul 28, 2023, at 20:44, "TSC-60 Man Washington via " < asajay.com@groups.io target=_blank>asajay=@groups.io> wrote:
I received my Raspberry Pi 4 Model B a week or so back but have not had time to fire it up.? It has a copyright date of 2018 on the PCB
Booting PiGate v1.5 does NOT work.
Booting PiGate v2.2 DOES work.
I know Mark had trouble with later PiGates he purchased in 2021 I think it was.? I am wondering if this Pi 4 is a model prior to those that are not working for him.? I suspect it may be due to the copyright date being 2018.
Mark, do you still have the Pi 4 that did not work with your latest PiGate image?? Does it have a different copyright date on the PCB?? Maybe there is some other way to distinguish them, but I only have this one that is working.
Asa? Jay
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If someone does the full update/upgrade thing on the PiGate image, the PiGate integration will most likely not work any more.? This is the problem with open source software....people change things or break stuff that used to work.? Files will disappear or be renamed, config files are different, stuff like that.? Sometimes whole software packages don't work, like when the Raspbian OS developers broke AX.25 a few kernels back.
This is the reason big companies pay big bucks for Red Hat or SuSE Linux.? No surprises during upgrades.
Oh well, it is what it is.
Mark KD0QYN
On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 01:03:38 AM CDT, N5XMT <dacooley@...> wrote:
Copyright date isn't date of manufacture.? It has no bearing on whether it boots or not.? Check the board for revision numbers. At one point the board changed slightly, and so did the onboard boot firmware.? Your board appears to be a later pi4 with the newer bootloader, so the old OS build doesn't boot out of the box.
I'm willing to bet that if you ran sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y && sudo rpi-eeprom-update and rebooted then put the older version in it would boot
Get
On Jul 28, 2023, at 20:44, "TSC-60 Man Washington via " < asajay.com@groups.io target=_blank>asajay=@groups.io> wrote:
I received my Raspberry Pi 4 Model B a week or so back but have not had time to fire it up.? It has a copyright date of 2018 on the PCB
Booting PiGate v1.5 does NOT work.
Booting PiGate v2.2 DOES work.
I know Mark had trouble with later PiGates he purchased in 2021 I think it was.? I am wondering if this Pi 4 is a model prior to those that are not working for him.? I suspect it may be due to the copyright date being 2018.
Mark, do you still have the Pi 4 that did not work with your latest PiGate image?? Does it have a different copyright date on the PCB?? Maybe there is some other way to distinguish them, but I only have this one that is working.
Asa? Jay
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Thanks Mark, and N5XMT,
My 1.5 image still works fine on a PI 3 so I'll leave it alone (do
not upgrade).? Since it appears the 2.2 image is working on a Pi 4,
I'll start working on that one as I begin testing my SignaLink.
Mark,
It was this thread I was originally referring to:
/g/RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio/topic/79365148#12758
It wasn't clear if you had made a new image or not.? But you -did-
have trouble with newer Pi 4 boards back in December 2020 and posted
in Jan 2021.?? This one works for me, so I'm pressing on.? My
concern is if the image had not been fixed for the later Pi 4, there
may be others in our group who get a different version and the image
won't work.
N5XMT,
Is there an easy way to know if this is an early or later revision??
I do understand the copyright may not change (sometimes it does; I
work in electronics and software industry.)
Thank you,
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
Spokane County ARES-RACES-ACS EC/RO
On 7/29/2023 04:41, Mark Griffith via
groups.io wrote:
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If someone does the full
update/upgrade thing on the PiGate image, the PiGate
integration will most likely not work any more.? This is the
problem with open source software....people change things or
break stuff that used to work.? Files will disappear or be
renamed, config files are different, stuff like that.?
Sometimes whole software packages don't work, like when the
Raspbian OS developers broke AX.25 a few kernels back.
This is the reason big
companies pay big bucks for Red Hat or SuSE Linux.? No
surprises during upgrades.
Oh well, it is what it is.
Mark
KD0QYN
On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 01:03:38 AM CDT, N5XMT
<dacooley@...> wrote:
Copyright date isn't date of manufacture.? It has
no bearing on whether it boots or not.? Check the
board for revision numbers. At one point the board
changed slightly, and so did the onboard boot
firmware.? Your board appears to be a later pi4 with
the newer bootloader, so the old OS build doesn't boot
out of the box.
I'm willing to bet that if you ran sudo apt update
&& sudo apt full-upgrade -y && sudo
rpi-eeprom-update and rebooted then put the older
version in it would boot
Get
On Jul
28, 2023, at 20:44, "TSC-60 Man Washington via "
< asajay.com@groups.io
target=_blank>asajay=@groups.io>
wrote:
I received my Raspberry Pi 4 Model B a week or so
back but have not had time to fire it up.? It has a
copyright date of 2018 on the PCB
Booting PiGate v1.5 does NOT work.
Booting PiGate v2.2 DOES work.
I know Mark had trouble with later PiGates he
purchased in 2021 I think it was.? I am wondering if
this Pi 4 is a model prior to those that are not
working for him.? I suspect it may be due to the
copyright date being 2018.
Mark, do you still have the Pi 4 that did not work
with your latest PiGate image?? Does it have a
different copyright date on the PCB?? Maybe there is
some other way to distinguish them, but I only have
this one that is working.
Asa? Jay
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do a "cat /proc/cpuinfo at the command line? last 4 lines will?give you the revision etc. Revisions C03111 is 1.1 for a Pi4 4GB, C03112 is rev 1.2 for the 4gb and C03114 is rev 4 for the 4gb
also try the command "pinout"? never knew of it until today!
here is the link that shows all pi's and revisions:
Hardware ? ? ? ?: BCM2835
Revision ? ? ? ?: c03111
Serial ? ? ? ? ?: 100000006a61c668
Model ? ? ? ? ? : Raspberry Pi 4 Model B Rev 1.1
Thanks Mark, and N5XMT,
My 1.5 image still works fine on a PI 3 so I'll leave it alone (do
not upgrade).? Since it appears the 2.2 image is working on a Pi 4,
I'll start working on that one as I begin testing my SignaLink.
Mark,
It was this thread I was originally referring to:
/g/RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio/topic/79365148#12758
It wasn't clear if you had made a new image or not.? But you -did-
have trouble with newer Pi 4 boards back in December 2020 and posted
in Jan 2021.?? This one works for me, so I'm pressing on.? My
concern is if the image had not been fixed for the later Pi 4, there
may be others in our group who get a different version and the image
won't work.
N5XMT,
Is there an easy way to know if this is an early or later revision??
I do understand the copyright may not change (sometimes it does; I
work in electronics and software industry.)
Thank you,
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
Spokane County ARES-RACES-ACS EC/RO
On 7/29/2023 04:41, Mark Griffith via
wrote:
If someone does the full
update/upgrade thing on the PiGate image, the PiGate
integration will most likely not work any more.? This is the
problem with open source software....people change things or
break stuff that used to work.? Files will disappear or be
renamed, config files are different, stuff like that.?
Sometimes whole software packages don't work, like when the
Raspbian OS developers broke AX.25 a few kernels back.
This is the reason big
companies pay big bucks for Red Hat or SuSE Linux.? No
surprises during upgrades.
Oh well, it is what it is.
Mark
KD0QYN
On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 01:03:38 AM CDT, N5XMT
<dacooley@...> wrote:
Copyright date isn't date of manufacture.? It has
no bearing on whether it boots or not.? Check the
board for revision numbers. At one point the board
changed slightly, and so did the onboard boot
firmware.? Your board appears to be a later pi4 with
the newer bootloader, so the old OS build doesn't boot
out of the box.
I'm willing to bet that if you ran sudo apt update
&& sudo apt full-upgrade -y && sudo
rpi-eeprom-update and rebooted then put the older
version in it would boot
Get
On Jul
28, 2023, at 20:44, "TSC-60 Man Washington via "
< asajay.com@
target=_blank>asajay=@>
wrote:
I received my Raspberry Pi 4 Model B a week or so
back but have not had time to fire it up.? It has a
copyright date of 2018 on the PCB
Booting PiGate v1.5 does NOT work.
Booting PiGate v2.2 DOES work.
I know Mark had trouble with later PiGates he
purchased in 2021 I think it was.? I am wondering if
this Pi 4 is a model prior to those that are not
working for him.? I suspect it may be due to the
copyright date being 2018.
Mark, do you still have the Pi 4 that did not work
with your latest PiGate image?? Does it have a
different copyright date on the PCB?? Maybe there is
some other way to distinguish them, but I only have
this one that is working.
Asa? Jay
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I think I included a short script on the PiGate image /root/get_pi_version.sh.
If it's not there, here it is:
#!/bin/sh
echo
echo `cat /proc/device-tree/model`
echo
Works for all Pi versions.
Mark KD0QYN
On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 02:29:03 PM CDT, N5XMT <dacooley@...> wrote:
do a "cat /proc/cpuinfo at the command line? last 4 lines will?give you the revision etc. Revisions C03111 is 1.1 for a Pi4 4GB, C03112 is rev 1.2 for the 4gb and C03114 is rev 4 for the 4gb
also try the command "pinout"? never knew of it until today!
here is the link that shows all pi's and revisions:
Hardware ? ? ? ?: BCM2835
Revision ? ? ? ?: c03111
Serial ? ? ? ? ?: 100000006a61c668
Model ? ? ? ? ? : Raspberry Pi 4 Model B Rev 1.1
Thanks Mark, and N5XMT,
My 1.5 image still works fine on a PI 3 so I'll leave it alone (do
not upgrade).? Since it appears the 2.2 image is working on a Pi 4,
I'll start working on that one as I begin testing my SignaLink.
Mark,
It was this thread I was originally referring to:
/g/RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio/topic/79365148#12758
It wasn't clear if you had made a new image or not.? But you -did-
have trouble with newer Pi 4 boards back in December 2020 and posted
in Jan 2021.?? This one works for me, so I'm pressing on.? My
concern is if the image had not been fixed for the later Pi 4, there
may be others in our group who get a different version and the image
won't work.
N5XMT,
Is there an easy way to know if this is an early or later revision??
I do understand the copyright may not change (sometimes it does; I
work in electronics and software industry.)
Thank you,
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
Spokane County ARES-RACES-ACS EC/RO
On 7/29/2023 04:41, Mark Griffith via
wrote:
If someone does the full
update/upgrade thing on the PiGate image, the PiGate
integration will most likely not work any more.? This is the
problem with open source software....people change things or
break stuff that used to work.? Files will disappear or be
renamed, config files are different, stuff like that.?
Sometimes whole software packages don't work, like when the
Raspbian OS developers broke AX.25 a few kernels back.
This is the reason big
companies pay big bucks for Red Hat or SuSE Linux.? No
surprises during upgrades.
Oh well, it is what it is.
Mark
KD0QYN
On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 01:03:38 AM CDT, N5XMT
<dacooley@...> wrote:
Copyright date isn't date of manufacture.? It has
no bearing on whether it boots or not.? Check the
board for revision numbers. At one point the board
changed slightly, and so did the onboard boot
firmware.? Your board appears to be a later pi4 with
the newer bootloader, so the old OS build doesn't boot
out of the box.
I'm willing to bet that if you ran sudo apt update
&& sudo apt full-upgrade -y && sudo
rpi-eeprom-update and rebooted then put the older
version in it would boot
Get
On Jul
28, 2023, at 20:44, "TSC-60 Man Washington via "
< asajay.com@
target=_blank>asajay=@>
wrote:
I received my Raspberry Pi 4 Model B a week or so
back but have not had time to fire it up.? It has a
copyright date of 2018 on the PCB
Booting PiGate v1.5 does NOT work.
Booting PiGate v2.2 DOES work.
I know Mark had trouble with later PiGates he
purchased in 2021 I think it was.? I am wondering if
this Pi 4 is a model prior to those that are not
working for him.? I suspect it may be due to the
copyright date being 2018.
Mark, do you still have the Pi 4 that did not work
with your latest PiGate image?? Does it have a
different copyright date on the PCB?? Maybe there is
some other way to distinguish them, but I only have
this one that is working.
Asa? Jay
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Tonight I got back to the Pi 4.
I ran Mark's script to get the model and it displays as:
Raspberry Pi 4 Model B Rev 1.5
Doing the cat /proc/cpuinfo I get:
Hardware:? BCM2711
Revision:?? b03115
Serial:??????? 100000005b25bf54
Model:?????? Raspberry Pi 4 Model B Rev 1.5
That model is not listed on the revision site listed previously:?
Since the last model listed on that site is a Pi 4 Rev 1.4, my guess is this model is not yet listed, making it the most recent, latest and greatest.? And it appears to run PiGate just fine.
:)? Happy Camper.
Asa? Jay
W7TSC
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