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It does have a memory leak, so will probably not run for more than a few days. I'm working on? a fix and it should be available soon. Apart from that it is pretty stable. Occasionally the waterfall stops, but the modem keeps running. I know of a few people running it successfully on 300 baud HF and I run copies on HF and 1200 Baud VHF FM.

73,
John

On 31/05/2020 18:13, Vincent wrote:

John, the rasberrypi binary version is interesting.

Being a beta software, have you had hangups still ? (don't be suprised if it doesn't perform perfectly )



 

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Yes, and there's a QT native linux version now too..


On 2020-05-31 12:24 p.m., KP3FT via groups.io wrote:

UZ7HO's SoundModem recently added FX.25 also.

On Sunday, May 31, 2020, 10:55:49 AM EDT, Tadd KA2DEW in NC via groups.io <tadd@...> wrote:


FX.25 is a wrapper around AX.25 packets. The Packet generated by the FX.25 compatible TNC send an actual AX.25 packet with supplemental information such that the AX.25 packet is not molested. ?An FX.25 compatible TNC receiver will see the FX.25 extra material and will make use of that material to recover the AX.25 packet if bit-errors have occurred, but otherwise it gets the same information the AX.25 packet would have had. ?If a TNC not capable of understanding the FX.25 material hears the packet, it will only pay attention to the AX.25 part and will still decode it.?

The FX.25 part is created by the TNC or TNC-program. ?G8BPQ doesn’t know or care about the difference between FX.25 and AX.25. ?It only gets the KISS frame generated from the AX.25 details, and it generates KISS transmissions which the TNC will interpret into AX.25 or FX.25+AX.25. ?

Direwolf is the only FX.25-aware TNC [as an emulator of TNCs] that I know about. ?

Tadd - KA2DEW



On May 31, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Vincent <panserv@...> wrote:

a diff


 

Sure... I am using the Audio Injector Zero




On Sat, May 30, 2020, 9:52 PM David McQuate <mcquate@...> wrote:
John,
? May I ask what "board based sound solution" you are using?
Thanks!
Dave? WA8YWQ


"John Tetreault (WA1OKB)" <john.h.tetreault@...> wrote:
Hm... I've had DireWolf running continuously on a Pi Zero W for over a month, no lockups, and rock solid stable.? ?I used to have issues when I was using a USB sound adapter... But on e I switched to a board based sound solution, it's been solid...

On Thu, May 28, 2020, 6:48 AM Mark Griffith via <mdgriffith2003=[email protected]> wrote:

Vincent,

The TNC-Pi from W2FS is no longer available since he has retired and closed his business. MFJ is supposed to be soon selling a new TNC board John designed, but they are slowed in getting this done due to the virus situation.

The WVARC is selling the TNC-Pi9k6 which is a drop-in replacement for the TNC-Pi and also has 9600 baud capability. Their project is at . You can get to their online store at where you can buy the TNC as a kit or assembled. The assembled price of $87 is pretty good and I doubt the TNC-Pi from MFJ will be much less.

Direwolf on the Raspberry Pi works, but it has a problem with locking up if left running for several days, which requires a reboot to fix. If this doesn't bother you, Direwolf works just fine.

I prefer hardware solutions when they are available, but that is just me. One less thing to worry about.

Check out John Wiseman's linbpq on the Raspberry Pi for a great BBS solution.

Mark
KD0QYN


On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 02:57:29 AM CDT, Vincent <panserv@...> wrote:


Hi everyone, my first post here.

I have been toying with the idea of setting up a Raspberry pi based BBS system for a very small number of users ( 2 to 5) at slow speeds (1200 and less). I have been away from Ham radio especially packet for years and I can now see that there is a move away from hardware TNC's to software modems. After a little bit of searching I found TNC board from W2FS, the TNC Pi.

I wonder if I may ask a newbee question: is there anything to be gained or lost choosing a box TNC over a software solution maybe like Direwolf ?



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Hey John,

I haven't seen this board before.? Any initial thoughts compared to the Fe-Pi Audio Z (another I2S-based card)?

--David
KI6ZHD


On 05/31/2020 10:53 PM, John Tetreault (WA1OKB) wrote:

Sure... I am using the Audio Injector Zero




On Sat, May 30, 2020, 9:52 PM David McQuate <mcquate@...> wrote:
John,
? May I ask what "board based sound solution" you are using?
Thanks!
Dave? WA8YWQ


"John Tetreault (WA1OKB)" <john.h.tetreault@...> wrote:
Hm... I've had DireWolf running continuously on a Pi Zero W for over a month, no lockups, and rock solid stable.? ?I used to have issues when I was using a USB sound adapter... But on e I switched to a board based sound solution, it's been solid...

On Thu, May 28, 2020, 6:48 AM Mark Griffith via <mdgriffith2003=[email protected]> wrote:

Vincent,

The TNC-Pi from W2FS is no longer available since he has retired and closed his business. MFJ is supposed to be soon selling a new TNC board John designed, but they are slowed in getting this done due to the virus situation.

The WVARC is selling the TNC-Pi9k6 which is a drop-in replacement for the TNC-Pi and also has 9600 baud capability. Their project is at . You can get to their online store at where you can buy the TNC as a kit or assembled. The assembled price of $87 is pretty good and I doubt the TNC-Pi from MFJ will be much less.

Direwolf on the Raspberry Pi works, but it has a problem with locking up if left running for several days, which requires a reboot to fix. If this doesn't bother you, Direwolf works just fine.

I prefer hardware solutions when they are available, but that is just me. One less thing to worry about.

Check out John Wiseman's linbpq on the Raspberry Pi for a great BBS solution.

Mark
KD0QYN


On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 02:57:29 AM CDT, Vincent <panserv@...> wrote:


Hi everyone, my first post here.

I have been toying with the idea of setting up a Raspberry pi based BBS system for a very small number of users ( 2 to 5) at slow speeds (1200 and less). I have been away from Ham radio especially packet for years and I can now see that there is a move away from hardware TNC's to software modems. After a little bit of searching I found TNC board from W2FS, the TNC Pi.

I wonder if I may ask a newbee question: is there anything to be gained or lost choosing a box TNC over a software solution maybe like Direwolf ?



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Ok, well thats a lot of information to take in, all thanks to everyone here !

I guess now I have more than one road I can go down. fact is I have not been anywhere near packet since about '94 and clearly, technology has moved forward. I now can see that the best thing I can do is get started, somehow, and gain experience. I have two raspberry pi's , a 3 and a 4 , plus plenty of radios. I will give soundcard modems a shot first, just to cut my teeth with ( hoping). At least I wont spend any funds unnecessarily, because I must,nt forget I am to some extent responsible for other members who will eventually join the board.

We will give direwolf a go and take it from there. On our team I am the radio guy, but there are a couple of smart i.t. guys who are quick to pick up and they will be helping me out with linux and software.?

I can see that some guys here have had some success with direwolf and raspberry pi, so an I ask if both FBB and BPQ work equally well? Is there any detail to watch out for with the linux version of direwolf ? And last: Is there any special thing I must do to process the audio in/out from the raspberry to the radios ?

Well done everyone, much appreciated!

Vincent

9H5LX

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>? Direwolf is the only FX.25-aware TNC [as an emulator of TNCs] that I know about.?

>?? UZ7HO Soundmodem supports FEC and I've produced a Linux version. It does 300/600/1200/2400 FSK and a range of BFSK and QFSK modes.

I've tested both of them, talking to each other, in both directions.
Transmission errors were intentionally inserted to test the error correction.
These two FX.25 implementations are completely compatible.
FX.25 adds a lot of overhead but up to 32 corrupted bytes (not bits, bytes) can repaired in a frame.

More details here:??


There is another FX.25 TNC project but its github repository has an open bug report stating that it is not compatible with the others.





 

Hi John,

Actually late last night we were looking at your linux version.

We will set it up soon.?

Did you have any issues with the audio from the jack on the Rasberry pi ?? Filtering, impedance match, levels ?

thank you

Vincent


 

The ad mentions GPIO so perhaps that covers the PTT issue.? I didn't notice if it had transformers which would make it a no go for higher speed digital.


On Mon, Jun 1, 2020, 1:20 PM David Ranch <rpi4hamradio-groupsio@...> wrote:

Hey John,

I haven't seen this board before.? Any initial thoughts compared to the Fe-Pi Audio Z (another I2S-based card)?

--David
KI6ZHD


On 05/31/2020 10:53 PM, John Tetreault (WA1OKB) wrote:
Sure... I am using the Audio Injector Zero




On Sat, May 30, 2020, 9:52 PM David McQuate <mcquate@...> wrote:
John,
? May I ask what "board based sound solution" you are using?
Thanks!
Dave? WA8YWQ


"John Tetreault (WA1OKB)" <john.h.tetreault@...> wrote:
Hm... I've had DireWolf running continuously on a Pi Zero W for over a month, no lockups, and rock solid stable.? ?I used to have issues when I was using a USB sound adapter... But on e I switched to a board based sound solution, it's been solid...

On Thu, May 28, 2020, 6:48 AM Mark Griffith via <mdgriffith2003=[email protected]> wrote:

Vincent,

The TNC-Pi from W2FS is no longer available since he has retired and closed his business. MFJ is supposed to be soon selling a new TNC board John designed, but they are slowed in getting this done due to the virus situation.

The WVARC is selling the TNC-Pi9k6 which is a drop-in replacement for the TNC-Pi and also has 9600 baud capability. Their project is at . You can get to their online store at where you can buy the TNC as a kit or assembled. The assembled price of $87 is pretty good and I doubt the TNC-Pi from MFJ will be much less.

Direwolf on the Raspberry Pi works, but it has a problem with locking up if left running for several days, which requires a reboot to fix. If this doesn't bother you, Direwolf works just fine.

I prefer hardware solutions when they are available, but that is just me. One less thing to worry about.

Check out John Wiseman's linbpq on the Raspberry Pi for a great BBS solution.

Mark
KD0QYN


On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 02:57:29 AM CDT, Vincent <panserv@...> wrote:


Hi everyone, my first post here.

I have been toying with the idea of setting up a Raspberry pi based BBS system for a very small number of users ( 2 to 5) at slow speeds (1200 and less). I have been away from Ham radio especially packet for years and I can now see that there is a move away from hardware TNC's to software modems. After a little bit of searching I found TNC board from W2FS, the TNC Pi.

I wonder if I may ask a newbee question: is there anything to be gained or lost choosing a box TNC over a software solution maybe like Direwolf ?



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I believe it's very similar to the FePi... The advantage is you can actually get it.... The FePi has been sold out for months.


On Mon, Jun 1, 2020, 4:20 PM David Ranch <rpi4hamradio-groupsio@...> wrote:

Hey John,

I haven't seen this board before.? Any initial thoughts compared to the Fe-Pi Audio Z (another I2S-based card)?

--David
KI6ZHD


On 05/31/2020 10:53 PM, John Tetreault (WA1OKB) wrote:
Sure... I am using the Audio Injector Zero




On Sat, May 30, 2020, 9:52 PM David McQuate <mcquate@...> wrote:
John,
? May I ask what "board based sound solution" you are using?
Thanks!
Dave? WA8YWQ


"John Tetreault (WA1OKB)" <john.h.tetreault@...> wrote:
Hm... I've had DireWolf running continuously on a Pi Zero W for over a month, no lockups, and rock solid stable.? ?I used to have issues when I was using a USB sound adapter... But on e I switched to a board based sound solution, it's been solid...

On Thu, May 28, 2020, 6:48 AM Mark Griffith via <mdgriffith2003=[email protected]> wrote:

Vincent,

The TNC-Pi from W2FS is no longer available since he has retired and closed his business. MFJ is supposed to be soon selling a new TNC board John designed, but they are slowed in getting this done due to the virus situation.

The WVARC is selling the TNC-Pi9k6 which is a drop-in replacement for the TNC-Pi and also has 9600 baud capability. Their project is at . You can get to their online store at where you can buy the TNC as a kit or assembled. The assembled price of $87 is pretty good and I doubt the TNC-Pi from MFJ will be much less.

Direwolf on the Raspberry Pi works, but it has a problem with locking up if left running for several days, which requires a reboot to fix. If this doesn't bother you, Direwolf works just fine.

I prefer hardware solutions when they are available, but that is just me. One less thing to worry about.

Check out John Wiseman's linbpq on the Raspberry Pi for a great BBS solution.

Mark
KD0QYN


On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 02:57:29 AM CDT, Vincent <panserv@...> wrote:


Hi everyone, my first post here.

I have been toying with the idea of setting up a Raspberry pi based BBS system for a very small number of users ( 2 to 5) at slow speeds (1200 and less). I have been away from Ham radio especially packet for years and I can now see that there is a move away from hardware TNC's to software modems. After a little bit of searching I found TNC board from W2FS, the TNC Pi.

I wonder if I may ask a newbee question: is there anything to be gained or lost choosing a box TNC over a software solution maybe like Direwolf ?



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I believe it's very similar to the FePi... The advantage is you can actually get it.... The FePi has been sold out for months.
They come and go - I got 3 FePi about a week ago. Just before
learning of this new unit.


 

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I have a few FePi I’m not using as well. ?North raleigh

Tadd - ?KA2DEW?




On Jun 2, 2020, at 8:25 PM, Bill Vodall <wa7nwp@...> wrote:

I believe it's very similar to the FePi... The advantage is you can actually get it.... The FePi has been sold out for months.

They come and go - I got 3 FePi about a week ago. ??Just before
learning of this new unit.





 

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How do you stack the Fe-Pi and a radio interface inside a case? I built the packet radio interface and I’m using a Fe-Pi and I have not figured how to stack all of that together nicely on my Pi 3B+.?

Of course now I’m waiting for some short stereo cables that shipped from Minnesota and I’m yet to see...

Carlos
N3RDR?

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On Jun 2, 2020, at 8:30 PM, Tadd KA2DEW in NC via groups.io <tadd@...> wrote:

?I have a few FePi I’m not using as well. ?North raleigh

Tadd - ?KA2DEW?




On Jun 2, 2020, at 8:25 PM, Bill Vodall <wa7nwp@...> wrote:

I believe it's very similar to the FePi... The advantage is you can actually get it.... The FePi has been sold out for months.

They come and go - I got 3 FePi about a week ago. ??Just before
learning of this new unit.





 

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Hello John,

I agree with you that the Fe-Pi has been unavailable for months but go look again as I just saw they are available again (as of yesterday)!?? Also, I've had one user report that these sound devices might be sensitive to RFI issues compared to the Fe-Pi so beware there.? Might be easily mitigated by ferries on everything but something good to know.

--David
KI6ZHD


On 06/02/2020 04:37 PM, John Tetreault (WA1OKB) wrote:

I believe it's very similar to the FePi... The advantage is you can actually get it.... The FePi has been sold out for months.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2020, 4:20 PM David Ranch <rpi4hamradio-groupsio@...> wrote:

Hey John,

I haven't seen this board before.? Any initial thoughts compared to the Fe-Pi Audio Z (another I2S-based card)?

--David
KI6ZHD


On 05/31/2020 10:53 PM, John Tetreault (WA1OKB) wrote:
Sure... I am using the Audio Injector Zero




On Sat, May 30, 2020, 9:52 PM David McQuate <mcquate@...> wrote:
John,
? May I ask what "board based sound solution" you are using?
Thanks!
Dave? WA8YWQ


"John Tetreault (WA1OKB)" <john.h.tetreault@...> wrote:
Hm... I've had DireWolf running continuously on a Pi Zero W for over a month, no lockups, and rock solid stable.? ?I used to have issues when I was using a USB sound adapter... But on e I switched to a board based sound solution, it's been solid...

On Thu, May 28, 2020, 6:48 AM Mark Griffith via <mdgriffith2003=[email protected]> wrote:

Vincent,

The TNC-Pi from W2FS is no longer available since he has retired and closed his business. MFJ is supposed to be soon selling a new TNC board John designed, but they are slowed in getting this done due to the virus situation.

The WVARC is selling the TNC-Pi9k6 which is a drop-in replacement for the TNC-Pi and also has 9600 baud capability. Their project is at . You can get to their online store at where you can buy the TNC as a kit or assembled. The assembled price of $87 is pretty good and I doubt the TNC-Pi from MFJ will be much less.

Direwolf on the Raspberry Pi works, but it has a problem with locking up if left running for several days, which requires a reboot to fix. If this doesn't bother you, Direwolf works just fine.

I prefer hardware solutions when they are available, but that is just me. One less thing to worry about.

Check out John Wiseman's linbpq on the Raspberry Pi for a great BBS solution.

Mark
KD0QYN


On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 02:57:29 AM CDT, Vincent <panserv@...> wrote:


Hi everyone, my first post here.

I have been toying with the idea of setting up a Raspberry pi based BBS system for a very small number of users ( 2 to 5) at slow speeds (1200 and less). I have been away from Ham radio especially packet for years and I can now see that there is a move away from hardware TNC's to software modems. After a little bit of searching I found TNC board from W2FS, the TNC Pi.

I wonder if I may ask a newbee question: is there anything to be gained or lost choosing a box TNC over a software solution maybe like Direwolf ?



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