It does have a memory leak, so will probably not run for more than a
few days. I'm working on? a fix and it should be available soon.
Apart from that it is pretty stable. Occasionally the waterfall
stops, but the modem keeps running. I know of a few people running
it successfully on 300 baud HF and I run copies on HF and 1200 Baud
VHF FM.
73,
John
On 31/05/2020 18:13, Vincent wrote:
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John, the rasberrypi binary version is interesting.
Being a beta software, have you had hangups still ? (don't be suprised if it doesn't perform
perfectly )
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Yes, and there's a QT native linux version now too..
On 2020-05-31 12:24 p.m., KP3FT via
groups.io wrote:
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UZ7HO's SoundModem recently
added FX.25 also.
On Sunday, May 31, 2020, 10:55:49 AM EDT, Tadd KA2DEW in
NC via groups.io <tadd@...> wrote:
FX.25 is a wrapper around AX.25 packets. The Packet
generated by the FX.25 compatible TNC send an actual
AX.25 packet with supplemental information such that the
AX.25 packet is not molested. ?An FX.25 compatible TNC
receiver will see the FX.25 extra material and will make
use of that material to recover the AX.25 packet if
bit-errors have occurred, but otherwise it gets the same
information the AX.25 packet would have had. ?If a TNC
not capable of understanding the FX.25 material hears
the packet, it will only pay attention to the AX.25 part
and will still decode it.?
The FX.25 part is
created by the TNC or TNC-program. ?G8BPQ doesn’t know
or care about the difference between FX.25 and AX.25.
?It only gets the KISS frame generated from the AX.25
details, and it generates KISS transmissions which the
TNC will interpret into AX.25 or FX.25+AX.25. ?
Direwolf is the
only FX.25-aware TNC [as an emulator of TNCs] that I
know about. ?
Tadd - KA2DEW
On May 31,
2020, at 10:44 AM, Vincent < panserv@...>
wrote:
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Sure... I am using the Audio Injector Zero
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On Sat, May 30, 2020, 9:52 PM David McQuate < mcquate@...> wrote:
John,
? May I ask what "board based sound solution" you are using?
Thanks!
Dave? WA8YWQ
"John Tetreault (WA1OKB)" < john.h.tetreault@...> wrote:
Hm... I've had DireWolf running continuously on a Pi Zero W for over a month, no lockups, and rock solid stable.? ?I used to have issues when I was using a USB sound adapter... But on e I switched to a board based sound solution, it's been solid...
On Thu, May 28, 2020, 6:48 AM Mark Griffith via <mdgriffith2003= [email protected]> wrote: Vincent, The TNC-Pi from W2FS is no longer available since he has retired and closed his business. MFJ is supposed to be soon selling a new TNC board John designed, but they are slowed in getting this done due to the virus situation. The WVARC is selling the TNC-Pi9k6 which is a drop-in replacement for the TNC-Pi and also
has 9600 baud capability. Their project is at . You can get to their online store at where you can buy the TNC as a kit or assembled. The assembled price of $87 is pretty good and I doubt the TNC-Pi from MFJ will be much less. Direwolf on the Raspberry Pi works, but it has a problem with locking up if left running for several days, which requires a reboot to fix. If this doesn't bother you, Direwolf works just fine. I prefer hardware solutions when they are available, but that is just me. One less thing to worry about. Check out John Wiseman's linbpq on the Raspberry Pi for a great BBS solution. Mark KD0QYN On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 02:57:29 AM CDT, Vincent < panserv@...> wrote: Hi everyone, my first post here. I have been toying with the idea of setting up a Raspberry pi based BBS system for a very small number of users ( 2 to 5) at slow speeds (1200 and less). I have been away from Ham radio especially packet for years and I can now see that there is a move away from hardware TNC's to software modems. After a little bit of searching I found TNC board from W2FS, the TNC Pi. I wonder if I may ask a newbee question: is there anything to be gained or lost choosing a box TNC over a software solution maybe like Direwolf ?
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Hey John,
I haven't seen this board before.? Any initial thoughts compared
to the Fe-Pi Audio Z (another I2S-based card)?
--David
KI6ZHD
On 05/31/2020 10:53 PM, John Tetreault
(WA1OKB) wrote:
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Sure... I am using the Audio Injector Zero
On Sat, May 30, 2020, 9:52 PM
David McQuate < mcquate@...>
wrote:
John,
? May I ask what "board based sound solution" you are using?
Thanks!
Dave? WA8YWQ
"John Tetreault (WA1OKB)" < john.h.tetreault@...> wrote:
Hm... I've had DireWolf running
continuously on a Pi Zero W for over a month, no
lockups, and rock solid stable.? ?I used to have issues
when I was using a USB sound adapter... But on e I
switched to a board based sound solution, it's been
solid...
On Thu, May 28, 2020,
6:48 AM Mark Griffith via <mdgriffith2003= [email protected]> wrote:
Vincent,
The TNC-Pi from W2FS is no longer available since he
has retired and closed his business. MFJ is supposed
to be soon selling a new TNC board John designed,
but they are slowed in getting this done due to the
virus situation.
The WVARC is selling the TNC-Pi9k6 which is a
drop-in replacement for the TNC-Pi and also
has 9600 baud capability. Their project is at .
You can get to their online store at
where you can buy the TNC as a kit or assembled. The
assembled price of $87 is pretty good and I doubt
the TNC-Pi from MFJ will be much less.
Direwolf on the Raspberry Pi works, but it has a
problem with locking up if left running for several
days, which requires a reboot to fix. If this
doesn't bother you, Direwolf works just fine.
I prefer hardware solutions when they are available,
but that is just me. One less thing to worry about.
Check out John Wiseman's linbpq on the Raspberry Pi
for a great BBS solution.
Mark
KD0QYN
On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 02:57:29 AM CDT, Vincent
< panserv@...>
wrote:
Hi everyone, my first post here.
I have been toying with the idea of setting up a
Raspberry pi based BBS system for a very small
number of users ( 2 to 5) at slow speeds (1200 and
less). I have been away from Ham radio especially
packet for years and I can now see that there is a
move away from hardware TNC's to software modems.
After a little bit of searching I found TNC board
from W2FS, the TNC Pi.
I wonder if I may ask a newbee question: is there
anything to be gained or lost choosing a box TNC
over a software solution maybe like Direwolf ?
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Ok, well thats a lot of information to take in, all thanks to everyone here !
I guess now I have more than one road I can go down. fact is I have not been anywhere near packet since about '94 and clearly, technology has moved forward. I now can see that the best thing I can do is get started, somehow, and gain experience. I have two raspberry pi's , a 3 and a 4 , plus plenty of radios. I will give soundcard modems a shot first, just to cut my teeth with ( hoping). At least I wont spend any funds unnecessarily, because I must,nt forget I am to some extent responsible for other members who will eventually join the board.
We will give direwolf a go and take it from there. On our team I am the radio guy, but there are a couple of smart i.t. guys who are quick to pick up and they will be helping me out with linux and software.?
I can see that some guys here have had some success with direwolf and raspberry pi, so an I ask if both FBB and BPQ work equally well? Is there any detail to watch out for with the linux version of direwolf ? And last: Is there any special thing I must do to process the audio in/out from the raspberry to the radios ?
Well done everyone, much appreciated!
Vincent
9H5LX
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>? Direwolf is the only FX.25-aware TNC [as an emulator of TNCs] that I know about.?
>?? UZ7HO Soundmodem supports FEC and I've produced a Linux version. It does 300/600/1200/2400 FSK and a range of BFSK and QFSK modes.
I've tested both of them, talking to each other, in both directions. Transmission errors were intentionally inserted to test the error correction. These two FX.25 implementations are completely compatible. FX.25 adds a lot of overhead but up to 32 corrupted bytes (not bits, bytes) can repaired in a frame.
More details here:??
There is another FX.25 TNC project but its github repository has an open bug report stating that it is not compatible with the others.
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Hi John,
Actually late last night we were looking at your linux version.
We will set it up soon.?
Did you have any issues with the audio from the jack on the Rasberry pi ?? Filtering, impedance match, levels ?
thank you
Vincent
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The ad mentions GPIO so perhaps that covers the PTT issue.? I didn't notice if it had transformers which would make it a no go for higher speed digital.
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Hey John,
I haven't seen this board before.? Any initial thoughts compared
to the Fe-Pi Audio Z (another I2S-based card)?
--David
KI6ZHD
On 05/31/2020 10:53 PM, John Tetreault
(WA1OKB) wrote:
Sure... I am using the Audio Injector Zero
On Sat, May 30, 2020, 9:52 PM
David McQuate < mcquate@...>
wrote:
John,
? May I ask what "board based sound solution" you are using?
Thanks!
Dave? WA8YWQ
"John Tetreault (WA1OKB)" < john.h.tetreault@...> wrote:
Hm... I've had DireWolf running
continuously on a Pi Zero W for over a month, no
lockups, and rock solid stable.? ?I used to have issues
when I was using a USB sound adapter... But on e I
switched to a board based sound solution, it's been
solid...
On Thu, May 28, 2020,
6:48 AM Mark Griffith via <mdgriffith2003= [email protected]> wrote:
Vincent,
The TNC-Pi from W2FS is no longer available since he
has retired and closed his business. MFJ is supposed
to be soon selling a new TNC board John designed,
but they are slowed in getting this done due to the
virus situation.
The WVARC is selling the TNC-Pi9k6 which is a
drop-in replacement for the TNC-Pi and also
has 9600 baud capability. Their project is at .
You can get to their online store at
where you can buy the TNC as a kit or assembled. The
assembled price of $87 is pretty good and I doubt
the TNC-Pi from MFJ will be much less.
Direwolf on the Raspberry Pi works, but it has a
problem with locking up if left running for several
days, which requires a reboot to fix. If this
doesn't bother you, Direwolf works just fine.
I prefer hardware solutions when they are available,
but that is just me. One less thing to worry about.
Check out John Wiseman's linbpq on the Raspberry Pi
for a great BBS solution.
Mark
KD0QYN
On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 02:57:29 AM CDT, Vincent
< panserv@...>
wrote:
Hi everyone, my first post here.
I have been toying with the idea of setting up a
Raspberry pi based BBS system for a very small
number of users ( 2 to 5) at slow speeds (1200 and
less). I have been away from Ham radio especially
packet for years and I can now see that there is a
move away from hardware TNC's to software modems.
After a little bit of searching I found TNC board
from W2FS, the TNC Pi.
I wonder if I may ask a newbee question: is there
anything to be gained or lost choosing a box TNC
over a software solution maybe like Direwolf ?
Sent with mySecureMail.
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I believe it's very similar to the FePi... The advantage is you can actually get it.... The FePi has been sold out for months.
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Hey John,
I haven't seen this board before.? Any initial thoughts compared
to the Fe-Pi Audio Z (another I2S-based card)?
--David
KI6ZHD
On 05/31/2020 10:53 PM, John Tetreault
(WA1OKB) wrote:
Sure... I am using the Audio Injector Zero
On Sat, May 30, 2020, 9:52 PM
David McQuate < mcquate@...>
wrote:
John,
? May I ask what "board based sound solution" you are using?
Thanks!
Dave? WA8YWQ
"John Tetreault (WA1OKB)" < john.h.tetreault@...> wrote:
Hm... I've had DireWolf running
continuously on a Pi Zero W for over a month, no
lockups, and rock solid stable.? ?I used to have issues
when I was using a USB sound adapter... But on e I
switched to a board based sound solution, it's been
solid...
On Thu, May 28, 2020,
6:48 AM Mark Griffith via <mdgriffith2003= [email protected]> wrote:
Vincent,
The TNC-Pi from W2FS is no longer available since he
has retired and closed his business. MFJ is supposed
to be soon selling a new TNC board John designed,
but they are slowed in getting this done due to the
virus situation.
The WVARC is selling the TNC-Pi9k6 which is a
drop-in replacement for the TNC-Pi and also
has 9600 baud capability. Their project is at .
You can get to their online store at
where you can buy the TNC as a kit or assembled. The
assembled price of $87 is pretty good and I doubt
the TNC-Pi from MFJ will be much less.
Direwolf on the Raspberry Pi works, but it has a
problem with locking up if left running for several
days, which requires a reboot to fix. If this
doesn't bother you, Direwolf works just fine.
I prefer hardware solutions when they are available,
but that is just me. One less thing to worry about.
Check out John Wiseman's linbpq on the Raspberry Pi
for a great BBS solution.
Mark
KD0QYN
On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 02:57:29 AM CDT, Vincent
< panserv@...>
wrote:
Hi everyone, my first post here.
I have been toying with the idea of setting up a
Raspberry pi based BBS system for a very small
number of users ( 2 to 5) at slow speeds (1200 and
less). I have been away from Ham radio especially
packet for years and I can now see that there is a
move away from hardware TNC's to software modems.
After a little bit of searching I found TNC board
from W2FS, the TNC Pi.
I wonder if I may ask a newbee question: is there
anything to be gained or lost choosing a box TNC
over a software solution maybe like Direwolf ?
Sent with mySecureMail.
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I believe it's very similar to the FePi... The advantage is you can actually get it.... The FePi has been sold out for months. They come and go - I got 3 FePi about a week ago. Just before learning of this new unit.
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I have a few FePi I’m not using as well. ?North raleigh
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On Jun 2, 2020, at 8:25 PM, Bill Vodall < wa7nwp@...> wrote:
I believe it's very similar to the FePi... The advantage is you can actually get it.... The FePi has been sold out for months.
They come and go - I got 3 FePi about a week ago. ??Just before learning of this new unit.
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How do you stack the Fe-Pi and a radio interface inside a case? I built the packet radio interface and I’m using a Fe-Pi and I have not figured how to stack all of that together nicely on my Pi 3B+.?
Of course now I’m waiting for some short stereo cables that shipped from Minnesota and I’m yet to see...
Carlos
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On Jun 2, 2020, at 8:30 PM, Tadd KA2DEW in NC via groups.io <tadd@...> wrote:
? I have a few FePi I’m not using as well. ?North raleigh
On Jun 2, 2020, at 8:25 PM, Bill Vodall < wa7nwp@...> wrote:
I believe it's very similar to the FePi... The advantage is you can actually get it.... The FePi has been sold out for months.
They come and go - I got 3 FePi about a week ago. ??Just before learning of this new unit.
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Hello John,
I agree with you that the Fe-Pi has been unavailable for months but
go look again as I just saw they are available again (as of
yesterday)!?? Also, I've had one user report that these sound
devices might be sensitive to RFI issues compared to the Fe-Pi so
beware there.? Might be easily mitigated by ferries on everything
but something good to know.
--David
KI6ZHD
On 06/02/2020 04:37 PM, John Tetreault
(WA1OKB) wrote:
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I believe it's very similar to the FePi... The
advantage is you can actually get it.... The FePi has been sold
out for months.
Hey John,
I haven't seen this board before.? Any initial thoughts
compared to the Fe-Pi Audio Z (another I2S-based card)?
--David
KI6ZHD
On 05/31/2020 10:53 PM, John Tetreault (WA1OKB) wrote:
Sure... I am using the Audio Injector Zero
On Sat, May 30, 2020,
9:52 PM David McQuate < mcquate@...> wrote:
John,
? May I ask what "board based sound solution" you
are using?
Thanks!
Dave? WA8YWQ
"John Tetreault (WA1OKB)"
< john.h.tetreault@...>
wrote:
Hm... I've had DireWolf running
continuously on a Pi Zero W for over a month, no
lockups, and rock solid stable.? ?I used to have
issues when I was using a USB sound adapter...
But on e I switched to a board based sound
solution, it's been solid...
On Thu, May
28, 2020, 6:48 AM Mark Griffith via
<mdgriffith2003= [email protected]>
wrote:
Vincent,
The TNC-Pi from W2FS is no longer available
since he has retired and closed his
business. MFJ is supposed to be soon selling
a new TNC board John designed, but they are
slowed in getting this done due to the virus
situation.
The WVARC is selling the TNC-Pi9k6 which is
a drop-in replacement for the TNC-Pi and
also has 9600 baud capability. Their project
is at .
You can get to their online store at
where you can buy the TNC as a kit or
assembled. The assembled price of $87 is
pretty good and I doubt the TNC-Pi from MFJ
will be much less.
Direwolf on the Raspberry Pi works, but it
has a problem with locking up if left
running for several days, which requires a
reboot to fix. If this doesn't bother you,
Direwolf works just fine.
I prefer hardware solutions when they are
available, but that is just me. One less
thing to worry about.
Check out John Wiseman's linbpq on the
Raspberry Pi for a great BBS solution.
Mark
KD0QYN
On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 02:57:29 AM CDT,
Vincent < panserv@...>
wrote:
Hi everyone, my first post here.
I have been toying with the idea of setting
up a Raspberry pi based BBS system for a
very small number of users ( 2 to 5) at slow
speeds (1200 and less). I have been away
from Ham radio especially packet for years
and I can now see that there is a move away
from hardware TNC's to software modems.
After a little bit of searching I found TNC
board from W2FS, the TNC Pi.
I wonder if I may ask a newbee question: is
there anything to be gained or lost choosing
a box TNC over a software solution maybe
like Direwolf ?
Sent with mySecureMail.
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