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Newbie Question on CM108 Audio Fob for Allstar Node
I am new to the RPi world and have what's probably a "dumb" question. I am not a software guy so please go easy on me. My ultimate goal is to build an Allstar link using a BF-888S and CM108 audio fob.
I have a RPi4B now running and it seems to be working fine. I have a CM108 audio fob which when inserted into the Pi USB port it doesn't seem to be recognized (it works OK in my PC). No mods have been made yet to the fob as I just wanted to see if it worked in the Pi. My question is do I somehow need to disable the on-board Pi audio for it to see the inserted audio fob? if so, how do I do that? Thanks - 73 - Scott/KK6DZ |
开云体育Hello Scott,I have a RPi4B now running and it seems to be working fine. I have a CM108 audio fob which when inserted into the Pi USB port it doesn't seem to be recognized (it works OK in my PC). No mods have been made yet to the fob as I just wanted to see if it worked in the Pi. If you open up a terminal window your Raspberry Pi and run the "dmesg" command, you'll see all kinds of kernel logging stuff.? Now connect your CM108 sound device and run "dmesg" again.? At the bottom, you should see some lines about the CM108.? If you do, send those to this list and we can help you get things working.? If you don't see anything, something is either wrong with that USB port on your Raspberry Pi or the CM108 device.? Try a different USB port.? If that doesn't work, it sounds like you have a bad CM108 as they generally ALWAYS work on Linux. My question is do I somehow need to disable the on-board Pi audio for it to see the inserted audio fob? if so, how do I do that? You do NOT need to disable the onboard sound and in many respects, it's a bad thing to do if your Rpi is running a GUI and the system wants to play sound notifications. --David KI6ZHD |
David - Thank you for the quick response and info about dmesg. I know almost nothing about Linux commands so every little bit helps. I ended up simply cleaning the usb fob contacts with a pencil eraser and it magically began to work fine. I am now playing with various recording qualities as a way to learn about the Pi. My goal is to build a Ham Allstar node but I want to understand all the hardware connections before I start blindy following any of the many on-line "how-tos". I've managed to find a decent schematic for the CM108 fob I am using as a starting point so I'm going through each of the I/O lines that will eventually go to my HT radio, which is primarily the audio in/out, Carrier On Squelch, and Push-to-Talk signals.
Not sure if you can answer but once I download the current Allstar Asterick s/w onto a uSD card, do I simply insert that in place of the RPi OS card currently in the slot and re-boot the Pi? Thanks - Scott |
开云体育Hello Scott, David - Thank you for the quick response and info about dmesg. I know almost nothing about Linux commands so every little bit helps. I ended up simply cleaning the usb fob contacts with a pencil eraser and it magically began to work fine. How old is this FOB?? If it's pretty new, you might have a problem.? There are a lot of these units that are very poorly made and if your USB contacts are getting a lot of oxidation now, you probably will have more issues in the future.? I personally have had very good luck with the $7 Syba units. I am now playing with various recording qualities as a way to learn about the Pi. My goal is to build a Ham Allstar node but I want to understand all the hardware connections before I start blindy following any of the many on-line "how-tos". I've managed to find a decent schematic for the CM108 fob I am using as a starting point so I'm going through each of the I/O lines that will eventually go to my HT radio, which is primarily the audio in/out, Carrier On Squelch, and Push-to-Talk signals. Always a good plan Not sure if you can answer but once I download the current Allstar Asterick s/w onto a uSD card, do I simply insert that in place of the RPi OS card currently in the slot and re-boot the Pi? Which Allstar software are you considering as there are several? ?? - The true Allstar project software either has Raspberry Pi image but the ASL2 Beta version is based on the Debian 10 Buster release which doesn't get security updates anymore and the overall installed ASL software is also very very old (2021-03-24).? There is evidently a lot of politics going on in that group and while gives some hints to it, there haven't been any updates since 2021. ?? - You can try using the newest Raspberry Pi OS image (a new Debian 12 / Bookworm release is due any month now) and then overlay the currently available Allstar software on top of it. ?? - There is the HamVoIP project which is both a well maintained project and tuned software but it's almost a fork of Allstar.? It's still compatible with the overall Allstar network but they don't contribute their core code changes back the the Allstar community.? This is bad for the overall Allstar project but if your OK with running the HamVoIP (psedo-fork), it should work fine. Maybe others can chime in here on other possible options.. --David KI6ZHD |
开云体育I agree about the Syba and here is the part number:? SD-CM-UAUD?
I hope that helps. ----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ranch" To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2023 09:28:01 AM Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Newbie Question on CM108 Audio Fob for Allstar Node > > Hello Scott, > > > David - Thank you for the quick response and info about dmesg. I know > > almost nothing about Linux commands so every little bit helps. I ended > > up simply cleaning the usb fob contacts with a pencil eraser and it > > magically began to work fine. > > How old is this FOB? If it's pretty new, you might have a problem. > There are a lot of these units that are very poorly made and if your USB > contacts are getting a lot of oxidation now, you probably will have more > issues in the future. I personally have had very good luck with the $7 > Syba units. > > > > I am now playing with various recording qualities as a way to learn > > about the Pi. My goal is to build a Ham Allstar node but I want to > > understand all the hardware connections before I start blindy > > following any of the many on-line "how-tos". I've managed to find a > > decent schematic for the CM108 fob I am using as a starting point so > > I'm going through each of the I/O lines that will eventually go to my > > HT radio, which is primarily the audio in/out, Carrier On Squelch, and > > Push-to-Talk signals. > > Always a good plan > > > > Not sure if you can answer but once I download the current Allstar > > Asterick s/w onto a uSD card, do I simply insert that in place of the > > RPi OS card currently in the slot and re-boot the Pi? > > Which Allstar software are you considering as there are several? > > - The true Allstar project software either has Raspberry Pi image > but the ASL2 Beta version is based on the Debian 10 Buster release which > doesn't get security updates anymore and the overall installed ASL > software is also very very old (2021-03-24). There is evidently a lot > of politics going on in that group and while > gives some hints to it, there haven't been > any updates since 2021. > > - You can try using the newest Raspberry Pi OS image (a new Debian > 12 / Bookworm release is due any month now) and then overlay the > currently available Allstar software on top of it. > > - There is the HamVoIP project which is both a well maintained > project and tuned software but it's almost a fork of Allstar. It's > still compatible with the overall Allstar network but they don't > contribute their core code changes back the the Allstar community. This > is bad for the overall Allstar project but if your OK with running the > HamVoIP (psedo-fork), it should work fine. > > > Maybe others can chime in here on other possible options.. > > --David > KI6ZHD > > > > > > > --
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David - Thanks - I think the fob is working reliably now. Now, as to ASL software... I have no idea where to go next. I am truly a newbie when it comes to RPi, linux, Allstar - all new to me. My current configuration is I have an RPi4B running the 64-bit version of the RPi OS. All the software options you mention are Greek to me. I think I want to run the Allstar Raspberry Pi image but don't even know where to begin. How do I get the RPi4 to execute the image? Do I put it on another SD card and boot from it? Sorry for the dumb questions but I am truly a newbie in the RPi, ASL world. Thanks. Scott
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开云体育Depending on what you are trying to do. HamVoIP may be easier to
deal with. I looked at ASL (Allstar Link) a while back and if I
remember correctly, it won't run on the 64-bit OS. Then again, I could be wrong. Mick - W7CAT ----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Eckert via groups.io" To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2023 06:01:48 PM Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Newbie Question on CM108 Audio Fob for Allstar Node > David - Thanks - I think the fob is working reliably now. Now, as to ASL software... I have no idea where to go next. I am truly a newbie when it comes to RPi, linux, Allstar - all new to me. My current configuration is I have an RPi4B running the 64-bit version of the RPi OS. All the software options you mention are Greek to me. I think I want to run the Allstar Raspberry Pi image but don't even know where to begin. How do I get the RPi4 to execute the image? Do I put it on another SD card and boot from it? Sorry for the dumb questions but I am truly a newbie in the RPi, ASL world. Thanks. Scott > > > > > > --
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开云体育Hello Scott,We all started from zero so if you stick to it, I'm sure you'll get it.? I guess the best place I can recommend to get started is here: ?? You'll need to do a lot of reading and follow along with their documentation, etc.? I would also recommend to join their forums if you have specific questions, etc.? --David KI6ZHD On 07/19/2023 05:01 PM, Scott Eckert
via groups.io wrote:
David - Thanks - I think the fob is working reliably now. Now, as to ASL software... I have no idea where to go next. I am truly a newbie when it comes to RPi, linux, Allstar - all new to me. My current configuration is I have an RPi4B running the 64-bit version of the RPi OS. All the software options you mention are Greek to me. I think I want to run the Allstar Raspberry Pi image but don't even know where to begin. How do I get the RPi4 to execute the image? Do I put it on another SD card and boot from it? Sorry for the dumb questions but I am truly a newbie in the RPi, ASL world. Thanks. Scott |
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