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Hi, G8NXD here, been running RPi since the first board release and have a box full of old RPi's sitting waiting for Godot.
Been using RPi for local and remote QRSS and? WSPR reporting for ages., also GP desktop applications.
I've just aquired a couple of RPi5 8Gb but hate the OS for it so staying on Bullseye and RPi4 until Bookworm returns to sanity.

I've just joined looking for help on why certain distros, Ubuntu and DV as examples, dont recognise my Monitor but Raspbian of all colours seem quite happy with it.
It does'nt appear to be video drive level, #hdmi_drive=2 and dmi_force_hotplug=1, may be depreciated in modern Config.txt configurations, it does'nt seem to work these days.
The monitor is an ASUS VE247.
I have a feeling that the problematic distros assume a 4k monitor when first booting, but not sure about that and have no idea how to reject that option and default to a more antique resolution.

Ideas on a ?5 note please :-) 73 Mike


 

Unfortunately, bookworm isn't returning to anything. X is being replaced by all distros with Wayland as the display manager. Not sure why, because X worked just fine.

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On Feb 7, 2024, at 09:03, mike <pencoys@...> wrote:

Hi, G8NXD here, been running RPi since the first board release and have a box full of old RPi's sitting waiting for Godot.
Been using RPi for local and remote QRSS and? WSPR reporting for ages., also GP desktop applications.
I've just aquired a couple of RPi5 8Gb but hate the OS for it so staying on Bullseye and RPi4 until Bookworm returns to sanity.

I've just joined looking for help on why certain distros, Ubuntu and DV as examples, dont recognise my Monitor but Raspbian of all colours seem quite happy with it.
It does'nt appear to be video drive level, #hdmi_drive=2 and dmi_force_hotplug=1, may be depreciated in modern Config.txt configurations, it does'nt seem to work these days.
The monitor is an ASUS VE247.
I have a feeling that the problematic distros assume a 4k monitor when first booting, but not sure about that and have no idea how to reject that option and default to a more antique resolution.

Ideas on a ?5 note please :-) 73 Mike


 

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Maybe some useful info here ....

Ray vk2tv

On 8/2/24 10:52, N5XMT wrote:

Unfortunately, bookworm isn't returning to anything. X is being replaced by all distros with Wayland as the display manager. Not sure why, because X worked just fine.

Get
On Feb 7, 2024, at 09:03, mike <pencoys@...> wrote:
Hi, G8NXD here, been running RPi since the first board release and have a box full of old RPi's sitting waiting for Godot.
Been using RPi for local and remote QRSS and? WSPR reporting for ages., also GP desktop applications.
I've just aquired a couple of RPi5 8Gb but hate the OS for it so staying on Bullseye and RPi4 until Bookworm returns to sanity.

I've just joined looking for help on why certain distros, Ubuntu and DV as examples, dont recognise my Monitor but Raspbian of all colours seem quite happy with it.
It does'nt appear to be video drive level, #hdmi_drive=2 and dmi_force_hotplug=1, may be depreciated in modern Config.txt configurations, it does'nt seem to work these days.
The monitor is an ASUS VE247.
I have a feeling that the problematic distros assume a 4k monitor when first booting, but not sure about that and have no idea how to reject that option and default to a more antique resolution.

Ideas on a ?5 note please :-) 73 Mike


 

On Wednesday, February 7th, 2024 at 15:52, N5XMT <dacooley@...> wrote:
Unfortunately, bookworm isn't returning to anything. X is being replaced by all distros with Wayland as the display manager. Not sure why, because X worked just fine.

X works just fine, but nobody's actually working on it anymore.? The codebase is
so old that the best anybody's been able to do is the odd patch to ensure it still
compiles against modern environments.? Wayland is supposed to be the next
generation environment, with an architecture that's more modern and easier to
work on.

The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415/510]
WWW: https://drwho.virtadpt.net/
Don't be mean. You don't have to be mean.


 

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To add on to Ray's response, I recently saw this excellent video on Youtube about Xwindows history and it's dead-end future:

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There is some fascinating details in there and I bet there are some tidbits that even the the most senior "grey beard" sysadmins might not know.? Good stuff.

--David
KI6ZHD


On 02/07/2024 04:37 PM, Ray Wells wrote:

Maybe some useful info here ....

Ray vk2tv

On 8/2/24 10:52, N5XMT wrote:
Unfortunately, bookworm isn't returning to anything. X is being replaced by all distros with Wayland as the display manager. Not sure why, because X worked just fine.

Get
On Feb 7, 2024, at 09:03, mike <pencoys@...> wrote:
Hi, G8NXD here, been running RPi since the first board release and have a box full of old RPi's sitting waiting for Godot.
Been using RPi for local and remote QRSS and? WSPR reporting for ages., also GP desktop applications.
I've just aquired a couple of RPi5 8Gb but hate the OS for it so staying on Bullseye and RPi4 until Bookworm returns to sanity.

I've just joined looking for help on why certain distros, Ubuntu and DV as examples, dont recognise my Monitor but Raspbian of all colours seem quite happy with it.
It does'nt appear to be video drive level, #hdmi_drive=2 and dmi_force_hotplug=1, may be depreciated in modern Config.txt configurations, it does'nt seem to work these days.
The monitor is an ASUS VE247.
I have a feeling that the problematic distros assume a 4k monitor when first booting, but not sure about that and have no idea how to reject that option and default to a more antique resolution.

Ideas on a ?5 note please :-) 73 Mike



 

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Thanks David.

Never a sysadmin so for me an interesting look at history.? For those who don't want the history, skip to about the last ten minutes when Wayland is explained.

Ray vk2tv

On 9/2/24 07:46, David Ranch wrote:

To add on to Ray's response, I recently saw this excellent video on Youtube about Xwindows history and it's dead-end future:

??

There is some fascinating details in there and I bet there are some tidbits that even the the most senior "grey beard" sysadmins might not know.? Good stuff.

--David
KI6ZHD


On 02/07/2024 04:37 PM, Ray Wells wrote:
Maybe some useful info here ....

Ray vk2tv

On 8/2/24 10:52, N5XMT wrote:
Unfortunately, bookworm isn't returning to anything. X is being replaced by all distros with Wayland as the display manager. Not sure why, because X worked just fine.

Get
On Feb 7, 2024, at 09:03, mike <pencoys@...> wrote:
Hi, G8NXD here, been running RPi since the first board release and have a box full of old RPi's sitting waiting for Godot.
Been using RPi for local and remote QRSS and? WSPR reporting for ages., also GP desktop applications.
I've just aquired a couple of RPi5 8Gb but hate the OS for it so staying on Bullseye and RPi4 until Bookworm returns to sanity.

I've just joined looking for help on why certain distros, Ubuntu and DV as examples, dont recognise my Monitor but Raspbian of all colours seem quite happy with it.
It does'nt appear to be video drive level, #hdmi_drive=2 and dmi_force_hotplug=1, may be depreciated in modern Config.txt configurations, it does'nt seem to work these days.
The monitor is an ASUS VE247.
I have a feeling that the problematic distros assume a 4k monitor when first booting, but not sure about that and have no idea how to reject that option and default to a more antique resolution.

Ideas on a ?5 note please :-) 73 Mike