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HamPi Question

 

Hello,

I am new to Raspberry Pi and HamPi. I would like to set up the Raspberry Pi 4 as a station computer. I have ordered and received what should work to do this. I have worked on a Mac for 27 years here at home. Unix and PC at work. .This seems like a good way to get all my software on one computer and interface with my Rig.

The advice has been to use an SD card and etch the image on it. Then pull the SD card as needed to update the image as software updates are released.

Since I first heard about HamPi - it seems they have worked on something and now a SSD based Flash Drive can be used for this as an alternative to the SD card.

Does one approach have advantages over the other? Is this worth implementing?

My Raspberry will be assembled later this week.

73

de KEoZUW John
 

You don't have to pull the ad card to do any updates.? sudo apt update then sudo apt full-upgrade -y

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On Jun 29, 2020, at 20:03, John Nicholas <stnick@...> wrote:

Hello,

I am new to Raspberry Pi and HamPi.   I would like to set up the Raspberry Pi 4 as a station computer.  I have ordered and received what should work to do this.  I have worked on a Mac for 27 years here at home.  Unix and PC at work.  .This seems like a good way to get all my software on one computer and interface with my Rig.

The advice has been to use an SD card and etch the image on it. Then pull the SD card as needed to update the image as software updates are released.

Since I first heard about HamPi - it seems they have worked on something and now a SSD based Flash Drive can be used for this as an alternative to the SD card.

Does one approach have advantages over the other?  Is this worth implementing? 

My Raspberry will be assembled later this week.

73

de KEoZUW  John
 

USB connected SSD is faster.?


On Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 20:03 John Nicholas <stnick@...> wrote:
Hello,

I am new to Raspberry Pi and HamPi.? ?I would like to set up the Raspberry Pi 4 as a station computer.? I have ordered and received what should work to do this.? I have worked on a Mac for 27 years here at home.? Unix and PC at work.? .This seems like a good way to get all my software on one computer and interface with my Rig.

The advice has been to use an SD card and etch the image on it. Then pull the SD card as needed to update the image as software updates are released.

Since I first heard about HamPi - it seems they have worked on something and now a SSD based Flash Drive can be used for this as an alternative to the SD card.

Does one approach have advantages over the other?? Is this worth implementing?

My Raspberry will be assembled later this week.

73

de KEoZUW? John
 

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The *only* reason I can see to use an external storage device on an Rpi (SSD or HDD) would be if you do a lot of heavy read/writes like a *LOT* of compiling of programs.? Beyond that, I personally don't think the Rpi is all that slow on a quality micro-SD card and ZERO ham radio applications really need the file I/O performance of an SSD.? If you tune your Pi to use a small ram-drive for logs and minimize writes to the SD card, it will last for MANY years.

--David
KI6ZHD



On 06/29/2020 08:24 PM, John D Hays - K7VE wrote:

USB connected SSD is faster.?

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 20:03 John Nicholas <stnick@...> wrote:
Hello,

I am new to Raspberry Pi and HamPi.? ?I would like to set up the Raspberry Pi 4 as a station computer.? I have ordered and received what should work to do this.? I have worked on a Mac for 27 years here at home.? Unix and PC at work.? .This seems like a good way to get all my software on one computer and interface with my Rig.

The advice has been to use an SD card and etch the image on it. Then pull the SD card as needed to update the image as software updates are released.

Since I first heard about HamPi - it seems they have worked on something and now a SSD based Flash Drive can be used for this as an alternative to the SD card.

Does one approach have advantages over the other?? Is this worth implementing?

My Raspberry will be assembled later this week.

73

de KEoZUW? John
 

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 04:24 AM, John D Hays - K7VE wrote:
USB connected SSD is faster
Unless there has been a big announcement that I missed (quite possible) - the RPI4 does not boot from a USB connected Drive.
?
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Yes, you've missed the announcements. The Pi 4 now supports booting from SSD. And if you have a USB3 SSD connected to a USB3 port it is very fast!

73,
John G8BPQ

On 30/06/2020 08:05, Stewart Wilkinson via groups.io wrote:

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 04:24 AM, John D Hays - K7VE wrote:
USB connected SSD is faster
Unless there has been a big announcement that I missed (quite possible) - the RPI4 does not boot from a USB connected Drive.
?
--
Stewart G0LGS

 

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 08:42 AM, John Wiseman wrote:
Yes, you've missed the announcements. The Pi 4 now supports booting from SSD. And if you have a USB3 SSD connected to a USB3 port it is very fast!
I don't see anything on the Raspberry Pi site - I must be looking in the wrong place !
?
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I used some third party instructions, but this seems to be the official documentation



I think these are the instructions I followed:



73,
John

On 30/06/2020 09:17, Stewart Wilkinson via groups.io wrote:

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 08:42 AM, John Wiseman wrote:
Yes, you've missed the announcements. The Pi 4 now supports booting from SSD. And if you have a USB3 SSD connected to a USB3 port it is very fast!
I don't see anything on the Raspberry Pi site - I must be looking in the wrong place !
?
--
Stewart G0LGS

 

As of May 28 it does.? Just have to do sudo apt update
sudo apt full-upgrade -y
sudo nano /etc/default/rpi-eeprom-update
Change "critical" to "beta"
Save
sudo rpi-eeprom-update -d -a
Reboot

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On Jun 30, 2020, at 00:05, "Stewart Wilkinson via " <g0lgs.co.uk@groups.io target=_blank>[email protected]> wrote:

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 04:24 AM, John D Hays - K7VE wrote:
USB connected SSD is faster
Unless there has been a big announcement that I missed (quite possible) - the RPI4 does not boot from a USB connected Drive.
?
--
Stewart G0LGS

 

Have to search the forums

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On Jun 30, 2020, at 01:17, "Stewart Wilkinson via " <g0lgs.co.uk@groups.io target=_blank>[email protected]> wrote:

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 08:42 AM, John Wiseman wrote:
Yes, you've missed the announcements. The Pi 4 now supports booting from SSD. And if you have a USB3 SSD connected to a USB3 port it is very fast!
I don't see anything on the Raspberry Pi site - I must be looking in the wrong place !
?
--
Stewart G0LGS

 

The firmware to support USB boot is now in STABLE, so it should be safer to change from 'critical' to 'stable' instead of 'beta' so that you aren't always bleeding edge.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 6:38 AM N5XMT <dacooley@...> wrote:
As of May 28 it does.? Just have to do sudo apt update
sudo apt full-upgrade -y
sudo nano /etc/default/rpi-eeprom-update
Change "critical" to "beta"
Save
sudo rpi-eeprom-update -d -a
Reboot


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John D. Hays
Kingston, WA
K7VE

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On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 02:39 PM, N5XMT wrote:
Have to search the forums
I tried that and failed (even though the Raspberry Pi Foundation had said that is where it would be announced).
?
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Stewart G0LGS
 

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On Jul 1, 2020, at 2:31 AM, Stewart Wilkinson via <stewart.g0lgs@...> wrote:

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 02:39 PM, N5XMT wrote:
Have to search the forums
I tried that and failed (even though the Raspberry Pi Foundation had said that is where it would be announced).
?
--
Stewart G0LGS

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