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Is the??script the best way to shrink images for archiving or for use with a smaller SD card?
Thanks & 73,
Ed
N2BHD
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Isn't it easier to just buy a bigger SD card or an external disk drive? On 03/03/2022 09:42 Ed via groups.io <elancki@...> wrote:
Is the?PiShrink ()?script the best way to shrink images for archiving or for use with a smaller SD card?
Thanks & 73,
Ed
N2BHD
Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions tel +1-937-971-0366 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail nigel@... www
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Good Morning Ed,
Interesting subject. I'm not sure what else there is out there to
use to shrink. Of course it depends on the amount of data that is
really on the SD card. I had a 32 gig card and it shrunk down to
about 2.5 gigs, which is probably the amount of actual data on the
card. Then I zipped it. That took it down to less than 1 gig. I
shrunk about everything I have for images (quite a few for
backups). With shrinking them first and then zipping, each one was
less than 1 gig.
Mick - W7CAT
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed via groups.io"
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2022 07:42:25 AM
Subject: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] PiShrink?
> Is the PiShrink (
) script the best way to shrink images for archiving or for use
with a smaller SD card?
>
> Thanks & 73,
> Ed
> N2BHD
>
>
>
>
>
>
|
No. For the few minutes it takes to shrink it, not worth buying
hardware for something that has a quick and easy software
solution.
Here is an example that got be started with PiShrink. Yes I
bought some new cards. They were supposed to be 8 gig cards since
that is what I use. They were actually 7.9 gig cards. The image
from the 8 gig cards wouldn't fit on the new cards. After using
PiShrink, the shrunken image fit just fine on the new cards.
I probably have over 20 images. That is 160 gigs of images (or
more). Silly to buy bigger cards, which will make for bigger
images and the need for a bigger hard drive just for storage.
After shrinking, I am down to 20 gigs.
I don't understand the concept of the OS filling all the unused
space on the card when there isn't anything there. If you have a
hard drive, you don't fill the whole unused space on it. It only
uses what it needs when it needs it.
Mick - W7CAT
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From: "Nigel Gunn, G8IFF/W8IFF"
To: [email protected], "Ed via groups.io"
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2022 07:49:14 AM
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] PiShrink?
> Isn't it easier to just buy a bigger SD card or an external
disk drive?
>
>
>
> > On 03/03/2022 09:42 Ed via groups.io
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Is the?PiShrink
()?script
the best way to shrink images for archiving or for use with a
smaller SD card?
> >
> > Thanks & 73,
> > Ed
> > N2BHD
> >
>
> Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions tel
+1-937-971-0366
> Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail
nigel@... www
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Also, if you have to send the image over the network, makes a big difference. We have an image we build on a 16 gig card, but we pishrink to just below 8 gig, and zipped it is 2.6 gig. Makes a difference when you need to ship to 100s of clients over the web
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On Mar 3, 2022, at 9:54 AM, Teton Amateur Radio Repeater Association (TARRA) <tarra@...> wrote:
?
Good Morning Ed,
Interesting subject. I'm not sure what else there is out there to
use to shrink. Of course it depends on the amount of data that is
really on the SD card. I had a 32 gig card and it shrunk down to
about 2.5 gigs, which is probably the amount of actual data on the
card. Then I zipped it. That took it down to less than 1 gig. I
shrunk about everything I have for images (quite a few for
backups). With shrinking them first and then zipping, each one was
less than 1 gig.
Mick - W7CAT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed via groups.io"
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2022 07:42:25 AM
Subject: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] PiShrink?
> Is the PiShrink (
) script the best way to shrink images for archiving or for use
with a smaller SD card?
>
> Thanks & 73,
> Ed
> N2BHD
>
>
>
>
>
>
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You're new cards were 7.9 because they were preformatted for Windows and you loose some space to the format information. They're still 8G cards. On 03/03/2022 10:11 Teton Amateur Radio Repeater Association (TARRA) <tarra@...> wrote:
No. For the few minutes it takes to shrink it, not worth buying hardware for something that has a quick and easy software solution.
Here is an example that got be started with PiShrink. Yes I bought some new cards. They were supposed to be 8 gig cards since that is what I use. They were actually 7.9 gig cards. The image from the 8 gig cards wouldn't fit on the new cards. After using PiShrink, the shrunken image fit just fine on the new cards.
I probably have over 20 images. That is 160 gigs of images (or more). Silly to buy bigger cards, which will make for bigger images and the need for a bigger hard drive just for storage. After shrinking, I am down to 20 gigs.
I don't understand the concept of the OS filling all the unused space on the card when there isn't anything there. If you have a hard drive, you don't fill the whole unused space on it. It only uses what it needs when it needs it.
Mick - W7CAT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nigel Gunn, G8IFF/W8IFF"
To: [email protected], "Ed via groups.io"
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2022 07:49:14 AM
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] PiShrink?
> Isn't it easier to just buy a bigger SD card or an external disk drive?
>
>
>
> > On 03/03/2022 09:42 Ed via groups.io wrote:
> >
> >
> > Is the?PiShrink ( ())?script the best way to shrink images for archiving or for use with a smaller SD card?
> >
> > Thanks & 73,
> > Ed
> > N2BHD
> >
>
> Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions tel +1-937-971-0366
> Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail nigel@... www ()
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions tel +1-937-971-0366 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail nigel@... www
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The concept isn't specifically with the OS, it's with the imager tools.? They don't look for data, they do a bit by bit copy of the media.? So if only 10k is used out of a 128g SD card, it still makes a complete image of the card.?
Get
On Mar 3, 2022, at 07:11, "Teton Amateur Radio Repeater Association (TARRA)" < tarra@...> wrote:
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No. For the few minutes it takes to shrink it, not worth buying
hardware for something that has a quick and easy software
solution.
Here is an example that got be started with PiShrink. Yes I
bought some new cards. They were supposed to be 8 gig cards since
that is what I use. They were actually 7.9 gig cards. The image
from the 8 gig cards wouldn't fit on the new cards. After using
PiShrink, the shrunken image fit just fine on the new cards.
I probably have over 20 images. That is 160 gigs of images (or
more). Silly to buy bigger cards, which will make for bigger
images and the need for a bigger hard drive just for storage.
After shrinking, I am down to 20 gigs.
I don't understand the concept of the OS filling all the unused
space on the card when there isn't anything there. If you have a
hard drive, you don't fill the whole unused space on it. It only
uses what it needs when it needs it.
Mick - W7CAT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nigel Gunn, G8IFF/W8IFF"
To: [email protected], "Ed via groups.io"
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2022 07:49:14 AM
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] PiShrink?
> Isn't it easier to just buy a bigger SD card or an external
disk drive?
>
>
>
> > On 03/03/2022 09:42 Ed via groups.io
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Is the?PiShrink
()?script
the best way to shrink images for archiving or for use with a
smaller SD card?
> >
> > Thanks & 73,
> > Ed
> > N2BHD
> >
>
> Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions tel
+1-937-971-0366
> Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail
nigel@... www
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Or make it available for download.
Mick - W7CAT
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Gallo"
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2022 08:16:23 AM
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] PiShrink?
> Also, if you have to send the image over the network, makes a
big difference. We have an image we build on a 16 gig card, but we
pishrink to just below 8 gig, and zipped it is 2.6 gig. Makes a
difference when you need to ship to 100s of clients over the web
>
> --
> 73 de KG2V
> Charlie
>
> > On Mar 3, 2022, at 9:54 AM, Teton Amateur Radio Repeater
Association (TARRA) wrote:
> >
> > ?
> > Good Morning Ed,
> >
> > Interesting subject. I'm not sure what else there is
out there to use to shrink. Of course it depends on the amount
of data that is really on the SD card. I had a 32 gig card and
it shrunk down to about 2.5 gigs, which is probably the amount
of actual data on the card. Then I zipped it. That took it down
to less than 1 gig. I shrunk about everything I have for images
(quite a few for backups). With shrinking them first and then
zipping, each one was less than 1 gig.
> >
> > Mick - W7CAT
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ed via groups.io"
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2022 07:42:25 AM
> > Subject: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] PiShrink?
> >
> > > Is the PiShrink (
) script the best way to shrink images for archiving or for use
with a smaller SD card?
> > >
> > > Thanks & 73,
> > > Ed
> > > N2BHD
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > --
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Actually not true. The imager doesn't care about existing format and writes bit by bit. Some cards are 8GB others are 8GiB
Manufacturers don't all use the same standard.? Same with hard drives.? And if you look at the manufacturers specs, somewhere they actually list size by Bytes and you'll see the difference there.
GiB is 1024MB, GB is 1000MB
Get
On Mar 3, 2022, at 07:35, "Nigel Gunn, G8IFF/W8IFF" < nigel@...> wrote:
You're new cards were 7.9 because they were preformatted for Windows and you loose some space to the format information. They're still 8G cards.
On 03/03/2022 10:11 Teton Amateur Radio Repeater Association (TARRA) <tarra@...> wrote:
No. For the few minutes it takes to shrink it, not worth buying hardware for something that has a quick and easy software solution.
Here is an example that got be started with PiShrink. Yes I bought some new cards. They were supposed to be 8 gig cards since that is what I use. They were actually 7.9 gig cards. The image from the 8 gig cards wouldn't fit on the new cards. After using PiShrink, the shrunken image fit just fine on the new cards.
I probably have over 20 images. That is 160 gigs of images (or more). Silly to buy bigger cards, which will make for bigger images and the need for a bigger hard drive just for storage. After shrinking, I am down to 20 gigs.
I don't understand the concept of the OS filling all the unused space on the card when there isn't anything there. If you have a hard drive, you don't fill the whole unused space on it. It only uses what it needs when it needs it.
Mick - W7CAT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nigel Gunn, G8IFF/W8IFF"
To: [email protected], "Ed via "
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2022 07:49:14 AM
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] PiShrink?
Isn't it easier to just buy a bigger SD card or an external disk drive?
On 03/03/2022 09:42 Ed via wrote:
Is the?PiShrink ( ( the best way to shrink images for archiving or for use with a smaller SD card?
Thanks & 73,
Ed
N2BHD
Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions tel +1-937-971-0366
Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail nigel@... www ()
--
Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions tel +1-937-971-0366
Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail nigel@... www
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Exactly what we do - we want to save the 100s of clients (and ourselves) as many gigs of bandwidth as we can
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On 2022-03-03 11:10, Teton Amateur Radio Repeater Association (TARRA) wrote:
Or make it available for download.
Mick - W7CAT
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Sorry, but I don't agree with what you are saying. Here is an
example of why. I have a shrunk image that is 1.75 gigs in size. I
image that to an 8 gig card. So the completed card only has 1.75
gig of space used on it. Once it is moved over to the Pi, it still
only has 1.75 gig. The bit by bit copy is only of the 1.75 gig.
The copy process did not fill the rest of the card. Once the card
is in the Pi, the first time it boots, it boots up on the 1.75 gig
image and then immediately reboots to fill out the rest of the
space on the card. So in fact IT IS the OS that is doing it.
Nothing to do with the copying of the image to the card.
Mick - W7CAT
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----- Original Message -----
From: "N5XMT"
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2022 08:39:19 AM
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] PiShrink?
> The concept isn't specifically with the OS, it's with the
imager tools.? They don't look for data, they do a bit by bit copy
of the media.? So if only 10k is used out of a 128g SD card, it
still makes a complete image of the card.?
>
> ?Get BlueMail for Android ?
>
> On Mar 3, 2022, 07:11, at 07:11, "Teton Amateur Radio
Repeater Association (TARRA)" wrote:
> >No. For the few minutes it takes to shrink it, not
worth buying
> >hardware
> >for something that has a quick and easy software
solution.
> >
> >Here is an example that got be started with PiShrink.
Yes I bought some
> >
> >new cards. They were supposed to be 8 gig cards since
that is what I
> >use. They were actually 7.9 gig cards. The image from
the 8 gig cards
> >wouldn't fit on the new cards. After using PiShrink,
the shrunken image
> >
> >fit just fine on the new cards.
> >
> >I probably have over 20 images. That is 160 gigs of
images (or more).
> >Silly to buy bigger cards, which will make for bigger
images and the
> >need for a bigger hard drive just for storage. After
shrinking, I am
> >down to 20 gigs.
> >
> >I don't understand the concept of the OS filling all
the unused space
> >on
> >the card when there isn't anything there. If you have a
hard drive, you
> >
> >don't fill the whole unused space on it. It only uses
what it needs
> >when
> >it needs it.
> >
> >Mick - W7CAT
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Nigel Gunn, G8IFF/W8IFF"
> >To: [email protected], "Ed via
groups.io"
> >Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2022 07:49:14 AM
> >Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] PiShrink?
> >
> >> Isn't it easier to just buy a bigger SD card or an
external disk
> >drive?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 03/03/2022 09:42 Ed via groups.io wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is the?PiShrink
>
>()?script
> >
> >the best way to shrink images for archiving or for use
with a smaller
> >SD
> >card?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks & 73,
> > > > Ed
> > > > N2BHD
> > > >
> > >
> > > Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions
tel +1-937-971-0366
> > > Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701,
e-mail nigel@...
> >www
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >--
> >Untitled Document
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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My comment was regarding an 8g image not fitting on an 8g card, not a shrunken image.? If you have an 8GB card and make an image file without pishrink, it will be an 8GB image file, even if I only 10k of that 8GB was used.? When you restore that file, if the card you used is spec'd by the manufacturer as 8G, but they use GiB for their "standard", then the image is 8192MB.? If the destination card you write the image to is also an 8G, but the manufacturer uses GB, it's free space is only 8000MB and the image will not fit.
GiB is the common standard, but disk drives, thumb drives etc depends on the manufacturer as to whether they use GB and GIB..
If the image was shrunk first, yes, only the used space of the original is all that it will be.? Unless it's a fresh image of Raspbian, it won't automatically expand the root filesystem to fit the card/drive it was installed on. You have to go into raspi-config, advanced options and expand filesystem then reboot.? Regardless of the size of the original image and card, that will only expand to the available unused size on the card
Get
On Mar 3, 2022, at 16:28, "Teton Amateur Radio Repeater Association (TARRA)" < tarra@...> wrote:
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Sorry, but I don't agree with what you are saying. Here is an
example of why. I have a shrunk image that is 1.75 gigs in size. I
image that to an 8 gig card. So the completed card only has 1.75
gig of space used on it. Once it is moved over to the Pi, it still
only has 1.75 gig. The bit by bit copy is only of the 1.75 gig.
The copy process did not fill the rest of the card. Once the card
is in the Pi, the first time it boots, it boots up on the 1.75 gig
image and then immediately reboots to fill out the rest of the
space on the card. So in fact IT IS the OS that is doing it.
Nothing to do with the copying of the image to the card.
Mick - W7CAT
----- Original Message -----
From: "N5XMT"
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2022 08:39:19 AM
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] PiShrink?
> The concept isn't specifically with the OS, it's with the
imager tools.? They don't look for data, they do a bit by bit copy
of the media.? So if only 10k is used out of a 128g SD card, it
still makes a complete image of the card.?
>
> ?Get BlueMail for Android ?
>
> On Mar 3, 2022, 07:11, at 07:11, "Teton Amateur Radio
Repeater Association (TARRA)" wrote:
> >No. For the few minutes it takes to shrink it, not
worth buying
> >hardware
> >for something that has a quick and easy software
solution.
> >
> >Here is an example that got be started with PiShrink.
Yes I bought some
> >
> >new cards. They were supposed to be 8 gig cards since
that is what I
> >use. They were actually 7.9 gig cards. The image from
the 8 gig cards
> >wouldn't fit on the new cards. After using PiShrink,
the shrunken image
> >
> >fit just fine on the new cards.
> >
> >I probably have over 20 images. That is 160 gigs of
images (or more).
> >Silly to buy bigger cards, which will make for bigger
images and the
> >need for a bigger hard drive just for storage. After
shrinking, I am
> >down to 20 gigs.
> >
> >I don't understand the concept of the OS filling all
the unused space
> >on
> >the card when there isn't anything there. If you have a
hard drive, you
> >
> >don't fill the whole unused space on it. It only uses
what it needs
> >when
> >it needs it.
> >
> >Mick - W7CAT
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Nigel Gunn, G8IFF/W8IFF"
> >To: [email protected], "Ed via
groups.io"
> >Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2022 07:49:14 AM
> >Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] PiShrink?
> >
> >> Isn't it easier to just buy a bigger SD card or an
external disk
> >drive?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 03/03/2022 09:42 Ed via groups.io wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is the?PiShrink
>
>()?script
> >
> >the best way to shrink images for archiving or for use
with a smaller
> >SD
> >card?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks & 73,
> > > > Ed
> > > > N2BHD
> > > >
> > >
> > > Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions
tel +1-937-971-0366
> > > Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701,
e-mail nigel@...
> >www
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >--
> >Untitled Document
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Also
another option is rpi-clone?? I've used that for a couple of
years.?
Works pretty well, but I make a point of copying the image back
onto another card and testing it.? Got burned a couple of times
when backing up a headless configuration, and didn't see the
errors that were sent.???? I routinely run systems on 8 or 16 GB
card and back those up to a 4 GB Thumb drive.?? Same issue with
thumb drives, 4GB can be off one way or another just enough that
you can't put it back on a 4 GB micro SD card.?? Found my 4 GB
thumb drive that is just slightly smaller, and using that, I'm
able to put things back onto a 4GB SD card without issue.
Regards
Lloyd? n0nhj
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On 3/4/2022 08:27, N5XMT wrote:
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My comment was regarding an 8g image not fitting
on an 8g card, not a shrunken image.? If you have an 8GB card
and make an image file without pishrink, it will be an 8GB image
file, even if I only 10k of that 8GB was used.? When you restore
that file, if the card you used is spec'd by the manufacturer as
8G, but they use GiB for their "standard", then the image is
8192MB.? If the destination card you write the image to is also
an 8G, but the manufacturer uses GB, it's free space is only
8000MB and the image will not fit.
GiB is the common standard, but disk drives, thumb
drives etc depends on the manufacturer as to whether they use GB
and GIB..
If the image was shrunk first, yes, only the used
space of the original is all that it will be.? Unless it's a
fresh image of Raspbian, it won't automatically expand the root
filesystem to fit the card/drive it was installed on. You have
to go into raspi-config, advanced options and expand filesystem
then reboot.? Regardless of the size of the original image and
card, that will only expand to the available unused size on the
card
Get
On Mar 3, 2022, at 16:28, "Teton Amateur
Radio Repeater Association (TARRA)" < tarra@...>
wrote:
Sorry, but I don't agree with what you are saying. Here is
an example of why. I have a shrunk image that is 1.75 gigs
in size. I image that to an 8 gig card. So the completed
card only has 1.75 gig of space used on it. Once it is moved
over to the Pi, it still only has 1.75 gig. The bit by bit
copy is only of the 1.75 gig. The copy process did not fill
the rest of the card. Once the card is in the Pi, the first
time it boots, it boots up on the 1.75 gig image and then
immediately reboots to fill out the rest of the space on the
card. So in fact IT IS the OS that is doing it. Nothing to
do with the copying of the image to the card.
Mick - W7CAT
----- Original Message -----
From: "N5XMT"
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2022 08:39:19 AM
Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] PiShrink?
> The concept isn't specifically with the OS, it's with
the imager tools.? They don't look for data, they do a bit
by bit copy of the media.? So if only 10k is used out of a
128g SD card, it still makes a complete image of the card.?
>
> ?Get BlueMail for Android ?
>
> On Mar 3, 2022, 07:11, at 07:11, "Teton Amateur Radio
Repeater Association (TARRA)" wrote:
> >No. For the few minutes it takes to shrink it,
not worth buying
> >hardware
> >for something that has a quick and easy software
solution.
> >
> >Here is an example that got be started with
PiShrink. Yes I bought some
> >
> >new cards. They were supposed to be 8 gig cards
since that is what I
> >use. They were actually 7.9 gig cards. The image
from the 8 gig cards
> >wouldn't fit on the new cards. After using
PiShrink, the shrunken image
> >
> >fit just fine on the new cards.
> >
> >I probably have over 20 images. That is 160 gigs
of images (or more).
> >Silly to buy bigger cards, which will make for
bigger images and the
> >need for a bigger hard drive just for storage.
After shrinking, I am
> >down to 20 gigs.
> >
> >I don't understand the concept of the OS filling
all the unused space
> >on
> >the card when there isn't anything there. If you
have a hard drive, you
> >
> >don't fill the whole unused space on it. It only
uses what it needs
> >when
> >it needs it.
> >
> >Mick - W7CAT
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Nigel Gunn, G8IFF/W8IFF"
> >To: [email protected],
"Ed via groups.io"
> >Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2022 07:49:14 AM
> >Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] PiShrink?
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> >> Isn't it easier to just buy a bigger SD card
or an external disk
> >drive?
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> > > > On 03/03/2022 09:42 Ed via groups.io
wrote:
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> > > > Is the?PiShrink
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>()?script
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> >the best way to shrink images for archiving or
for use with a smaller
> >SD
> >card?
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> > > > Thanks & 73,
> > > > Ed
> > > > N2BHD
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> > > Nigel A. Gunn,
///shoulders.outwards.resolutions tel +1-937-971-0366
> > > Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701,
e-mail nigel@...
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