Re: Which codegroups do you prefer: Letters or Alpha-numeric?
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Five letter groups just like the traditional way of doing things.
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Which codegroups do you prefer: Letters or Alpha-numeric?
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Re: New Scores Reports Format
Hi Dan,
I think I read your concern, but I'm not going to publish the code group lists, other than by emailing individual contestants as to which groups they copied correctly from other stations, and which of their transmitted groups were confirmed by others. This would perhaps be a slightly useful "aid" during a group-limited event (to see which of your transmitted groups were guaranteed as confirmed and therefore "home safe"), but not otherwise.
However, for contestants-- please don't post your own lists of copied or transmitted groups until after scoring has been closed.
73,
Drew/AF2Z
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On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 05:10 PM, Dan W9DLN wrote:
Hi Gang,
Drew, maybe I missed it but I have a concern.
I am assuming that the new scoring sheet would be withheld until after the scoring window closes.? I would hope that the old score page method would stay in place until the submission window is closed.? My concern is that we would be publishing the word lists of the participants with the new format.
I believe RG is designed for accuracy and honesty.? Those reading this message would probably agree.? If the score data, with word groups listed, is printed before the event is closed me thinks that would open a different window I'd rather not speak about.
FWIW, 73, GL...
Dan, W9DLN
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New Scores Reports Format
Hi Gang,
Drew, maybe I missed it but I have a concern.
I am assuming that the new scoring sheet would be withheld until after the scoring window closes.? I would hope that the old score page method would stay in place until the submission window is closed.? My concern is that we would be publishing the word lists of the participants with the new format.
I believe RG is designed for accuracy and honesty.? Those reading this message would probably agree.? If the score data, with word groups listed, is printed before the event is closed me thinks that would open a different window I'd rather not speak about.
FWIW, 73, GL...
Dan, W9DLN
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Re: New Scores Reports Format
Even better, great effort Drew!
John Corby, VA3KOT
HamRadioOutsideTheBox.ca
On Tue., Apr. 9, 2024, 9:06 a.m. Drew AF2Z, < pubx1@...> wrote: I've revised the format slightly; should be a little better for email. Also, now has column headers. You can see it in the re-edited top post
/g/RandomGram/message/245
73,
Drew/AF2Z
On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 08:57 AM, Jim KG0RD wrote:
Drew,
This score display allows everyone to?
do propagation analysis
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Re: New Scores Reports Format
I've revised the format slightly; should be a little better for email. Also, now has column headers. You can see it in the re-edited message post /g/RandomGram/message/27373, Drew/AF2Z
On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 08:57 AM, Jim KG0RD wrote:
Drew,
This score display allows everyone to?
do propagation analysis
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Re: New Scores Reports Format
Drew,
This score display allows everyone to?
do propagation analysis
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On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 03:04:48 PM CDT, Drew AF2Z <pubx1@...> wrote:
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Thanks, Quint. This info will also be available as two-column tab separated lists for easy import into a spreadsheet, if anyone wants to do that with their results. It might be interesting if you also know the time and band that each group was transmitted or received, etc.
73,
Drew/AF2Z
On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 03:43 PM, Quint W7CQW wrote:
Superb effort on your part to capture the big picture and boil it down for us mortals to comprehend. Well done!
Quint W7CQW 4347T
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Reminder to RG Group members... RG #12 is this morning (Tue Apr 9th) from 15:00 - 17:00 UTC. NOTE THE NEW ITEMS FOR THIS EVENT... - Please use the new multi same-band QSO procedure at /g/RG/message/219- There is a new *comprehensive* scores report /g/RG/message/245The current roster & scores (when available) are posted at /g/RG/message/226Good luck! 73, Drew/AF2Z RG Mgr
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Re: New Scores Reports Format
Thanks, Quint. This info will also be available as two-column tab separated lists for easy import into a spreadsheet, if anyone wants to do that with their results. It might be interesting if you also know the time and band that each group was transmitted or received, etc.
73,
Drew/AF2Z
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On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 03:43 PM, Quint W7CQW wrote:
Superb effort on your part to capture the big picture and boil it down for us mortals to comprehend. Well done!
Quint W7CQW 4347T
On Sun, Apr 7, 2024 at 10:17 PM, Drew AF2Z
<pubx1@...> wrote:
In the past the individual scores reports I mail out only showed the TX. RX and Total points you receive for code groups accurately transmitted and received. From now on, reports will also include the code groups you exchange and the call signs of stations who receive or transmit them. This includes SWL as well as QSO confirms of transmitted groups.
You might find this interesting to see how many stations are hearing and reporting your transmitted groups. See the example below from my own RG#11 results. I'm not sure how well the long lines will wrap in email readers but I think you'll be able to make some sense of it:
RG#11 was limited to ten groups per Tx List. It will be interesting to see the reports in the RG#12 25-groups event. Anyhow, here are my results from last event:
Code groups AF2Z sent (CODEGROUP - #QSLs - CALLSIGNS):
ZKPVH??? 12??? AI9IN K0RO KI4KXO KO4NDP NJ8L VA3KOT VE3WH W4CMG W4QDV W9DLN WA9AQN WM4Q
DSSML??? 11??? KI4KXO KN4HAQ KO4NDP N3VH NJ8L OE1WYC VE3WH W0MFQ W4QDV W9DLN WA9AQN
SMDKL??? 11??? KB4QQJ KG0RD KI4KXO KO4NDP NJ8L OE1WYC OE3IAK VA3KOT VE3WH W4QDV WA9AQN
RDUHN??? 11??? KE8UEX KG0RD KI4KXO KO4NDP N3VH OE1WYC VA3KOT VE3WH W0MFQ W4QDV WA9AQN
KAVIM??? 10??? K0RO KE8UEX KI4KXO KO4NDP N7RCS NJ8L VA3KOT VE3WH W4QDV WA9AQN
LMHAJ??? 10??? AA2YK KI4KXO KO4NDP OE1WYC VA3KOT VE3WH W0MFQ W4QDV W9DLN WA9AQN
NHKNE??? ?6??? K4IIG K5KV KG0RD N3VH OE1WYC VK2GR
IVVQN??? 12??? K7SHR KB0LF KG0RD KO4NDP OE1WYC VA3KOT VE3WH W0MFQ W4CMG W4QDV W9DLN WA9AQN
TMWTH??? ?7??? KE8UEX KI4KXO KO4NDP NJ8L VA3KOT W4QDV WA9AQN
OVHEP??? 12??? KB4QQJ KI4KXO KN4HAQ KO4NDP N3VH NJ8L OE1WYC VA3KOT VK2GR W0MFQ W4QDV WA9AQN
Code groups AF2Z received (CALLSIGN - #GROUPS - CODEGROUPS):
AA2YK ??? ?2??? NXYFC WIUYI
AC2C ???? ?1??? VRDOW
K0RO ???? ?8??? FEGWU FYRLZ KDCHC PWHKI QXXKP UILBJ ZDUYM ZOGNT
K4IIG ??? ?1??? OOZWM
K5KV ???? ?1??? BHECO
K7SHR ??? ?2??? KZJTR VFHIY
KB0LF ??? ?1??? GSQPV
KB4QQJ??? ?1??? AVBVR
KE8UEX??? ?3??? HPTXE VANTN VZAMB
KI4KXO??? ?1??? TDKQE
KK0U ???? ?1??? MCKCE
KN4HAQ??? ?2??? AONUU LPRHI
KO4NDP??? ?6??? BMDRH FRWHB HVKLF KZTJE RXXMG RZYIP
KW4LQ ??? ?1??? OVTKD
N0IPA ??? ?1??? ZUTUW
N3KRX ??? ?1??? QXXGP
N3VH ???? ?1??? EVGTB
N7RCS ??? ?2??? LDGFM QXENU
NJ8L ???? ?4??? LUXPS MXCOW QCULQ RVGZH
OE1WYC??? ?1??? SWUXH
OE3IAK??? ?1??? OJMYC
PG4I ???? ?1??? MSFZA
VA3KOT??? ?1??? OWFDJ
VE3WH ??? ?1??? NTMKO
VK2GR ??? ?3??? AXKWZ GTJBH HZURT
W0BZ ???? ?4??? EBKNA EIDBM IGPRE INVNY
W0MFQ ??? ?2??? DIIBE KZYCX
W4QDV ??? ?2??? GUQOH KBCRY
W9DLN ??? ?2??? EYQEX TWFCA
WA9AQN??? ?2??? LSLXW UEVDI
WB9RCE??? ?1??? OXANQ
WG0Y ???? ?1??? DKQNS
WM4Q ???? ?1??? FOWSO
73,
Drew/AF2Z
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Re: New Scores Reports Format
I like it!!! Dan, W9DLN...
On Monday, April 8th, 2024 at 12:10 AM, Drew AF2Z <pubx1@...> wrote:
In the past the individual scores reports I mail out only showed the TX. RX and Total points you receive for code groups accurately transmitted and received. From now on, reports will also include the code groups you exchange and the call signs of stations who receive or transmit them. This includes SWL as well as QSO confirms of transmitted groups.
You might find this interesting to see how many stations are hearing and reporting your transmitted groups. See the example below from my own RG#11 results. I'm not sure how well the long lines will wrap in email readers but I think you'll be able to make some sense of it:
RG#11 was limited to ten groups per Tx List. It will be interesting to see the reports in the RG#12 25-groups event. Anyhow, here are my results from last event:
Code groups AF2Z sent (CODEGROUP - #QSLs - CALLSIGNS):
ZKPVH??? 12??? AI9IN K0RO KI4KXO KO4NDP NJ8L VA3KOT VE3WH W4CMG W4QDV W9DLN WA9AQN WM4Q
DSSML??? 11??? KI4KXO KN4HAQ KO4NDP N3VH NJ8L OE1WYC VE3WH W0MFQ W4QDV W9DLN WA9AQN
SMDKL??? 11??? KB4QQJ KG0RD KI4KXO KO4NDP NJ8L OE1WYC OE3IAK VA3KOT VE3WH W4QDV WA9AQN
RDUHN??? 11??? KE8UEX KG0RD KI4KXO KO4NDP N3VH OE1WYC VA3KOT VE3WH W0MFQ W4QDV WA9AQN
KAVIM??? 10??? K0RO KE8UEX KI4KXO KO4NDP N7RCS NJ8L VA3KOT VE3WH W4QDV WA9AQN
LMHAJ??? 10??? AA2YK KI4KXO KO4NDP OE1WYC VA3KOT VE3WH W0MFQ W4QDV W9DLN WA9AQN
NHKNE??? ?6??? K4IIG K5KV KG0RD N3VH OE1WYC VK2GR
IVVQN??? 12??? K7SHR KB0LF KG0RD KO4NDP OE1WYC VA3KOT VE3WH W0MFQ W4CMG W4QDV W9DLN WA9AQN
TMWTH??? ?7??? KE8UEX KI4KXO KO4NDP NJ8L VA3KOT W4QDV WA9AQN
OVHEP??? 12??? KB4QQJ KI4KXO KN4HAQ KO4NDP N3VH NJ8L OE1WYC VA3KOT VK2GR W0MFQ W4QDV WA9AQN
Code groups AF2Z received (CALLSIGN - #GROUPS - CODEGROUPS):
AA2YK ??? ?2??? NXYFC WIUYI
AC2C ???? ?1??? VRDOW
K0RO ???? ?8??? FEGWU FYRLZ KDCHC PWHKI QXXKP UILBJ ZDUYM ZOGNT
K4IIG ??? ?1??? OOZWM
K5KV ???? ?1??? BHECO
K7SHR ??? ?2??? KZJTR VFHIY
KB0LF ??? ?1??? GSQPV
KB4QQJ??? ?1??? AVBVR
KE8UEX??? ?3??? HPTXE VANTN VZAMB
KI4KXO??? ?1??? TDKQE
KK0U ???? ?1??? MCKCE
KN4HAQ??? ?2??? AONUU LPRHI
KO4NDP??? ?6??? BMDRH FRWHB HVKLF KZTJE RXXMG RZYIP
KW4LQ ??? ?1??? OVTKD
N0IPA ??? ?1??? ZUTUW
N3KRX ??? ?1??? QXXGP
N3VH ???? ?1??? EVGTB
N7RCS ??? ?2??? LDGFM QXENU
NJ8L ???? ?4??? LUXPS MXCOW QCULQ RVGZH
OE1WYC??? ?1??? SWUXH
OE3IAK??? ?1??? OJMYC
PG4I ???? ?1??? MSFZA
VA3KOT??? ?1??? OWFDJ
VE3WH ??? ?1??? NTMKO
VK2GR ??? ?3??? AXKWZ GTJBH HZURT
W0BZ ???? ?4??? EBKNA EIDBM IGPRE INVNY
W0MFQ ??? ?2??? DIIBE KZYCX
W4QDV ??? ?2??? GUQOH KBCRY
W9DLN ??? ?2??? EYQEX TWFCA
WA9AQN??? ?2??? LSLXW UEVDI
WB9RCE??? ?1??? OXANQ
WG0Y ???? ?1??? DKQNS
WM4Q ???? ?1??? FOWSO
73,
Drew/AF2Z
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Re: New Scores Reports Format
[Refer to the example scores report posted below ] Superb effort on your part to capture the big picture and boil it down for us mortals to comprehend. Well done!
On Sun, Apr 7, 2024 at 10:17 PM, Drew AF2Z
<pubx1@...> wrote:
In the past the individual scores reports I mail out only showed the TX. RX and Total points you receive for code groups accurately transmitted and received. From now on, reports will also include the code groups you exchange and the call signs of stations who receive or transmit them. This includes SWL as well as QSO confirms of transmitted groups.
You might find this interesting to see how many stations are hearing and reporting your transmitted groups. See the example below from my own RG#11 results. I'm not sure how well the long lines will wrap in email readers but I think you'll be able to make some sense of it:
RG#11 was limited to ten groups per Tx List. It will be interesting to see the reports in the RG#12 25-groups event. Anyhow, here are my results from last event:
Code groups AF2Z sent (CODEGROUP - #QSLs - CALLSIGNS):
ZKPVH??? 12??? AI9IN K0RO KI4KXO KO4NDP NJ8L VA3KOT VE3WH W4CMG W4QDV W9DLN WA9AQN WM4Q
DSSML??? 11??? KI4KXO KN4HAQ KO4NDP N3VH NJ8L OE1WYC VE3WH W0MFQ W4QDV W9DLN WA9AQN
SMDKL??? 11??? KB4QQJ KG0RD KI4KXO KO4NDP NJ8L OE1WYC OE3IAK VA3KOT VE3WH W4QDV WA9AQN
RDUHN??? 11??? KE8UEX KG0RD KI4KXO KO4NDP N3VH OE1WYC VA3KOT VE3WH W0MFQ W4QDV WA9AQN
KAVIM??? 10??? K0RO KE8UEX KI4KXO KO4NDP N7RCS NJ8L VA3KOT VE3WH W4QDV WA9AQN
LMHAJ??? 10??? AA2YK KI4KXO KO4NDP OE1WYC VA3KOT VE3WH W0MFQ W4QDV W9DLN WA9AQN
NHKNE??? ?6??? K4IIG K5KV KG0RD N3VH OE1WYC VK2GR
IVVQN??? 12??? K7SHR KB0LF KG0RD KO4NDP OE1WYC VA3KOT VE3WH W0MFQ W4CMG W4QDV W9DLN WA9AQN
TMWTH??? ?7??? KE8UEX KI4KXO KO4NDP NJ8L VA3KOT W4QDV WA9AQN
OVHEP??? 12??? KB4QQJ KI4KXO KN4HAQ KO4NDP N3VH NJ8L OE1WYC VA3KOT VK2GR W0MFQ W4QDV WA9AQN
Code groups AF2Z received (CALLSIGN - #GROUPS - CODEGROUPS):
AA2YK ??? ?2??? NXYFC WIUYI
AC2C ???? ?1??? VRDOW
K0RO ???? ?8??? FEGWU FYRLZ KDCHC PWHKI QXXKP UILBJ ZDUYM ZOGNT
K4IIG ??? ?1??? OOZWM
K5KV ???? ?1??? BHECO
K7SHR ??? ?2??? KZJTR VFHIY
KB0LF ??? ?1??? GSQPV
KB4QQJ??? ?1??? AVBVR
KE8UEX??? ?3??? HPTXE VANTN VZAMB
KI4KXO??? ?1??? TDKQE
KK0U ???? ?1??? MCKCE
KN4HAQ??? ?2??? AONUU LPRHI
KO4NDP??? ?6??? BMDRH FRWHB HVKLF KZTJE RXXMG RZYIP
KW4LQ ??? ?1??? OVTKD
N0IPA ??? ?1??? ZUTUW
N3KRX ??? ?1??? QXXGP
N3VH ???? ?1??? EVGTB
N7RCS ??? ?2??? LDGFM QXENU
NJ8L ???? ?4??? LUXPS MXCOW QCULQ RVGZH
OE1WYC??? ?1??? SWUXH
OE3IAK??? ?1??? OJMYC
PG4I ???? ?1??? MSFZA
VA3KOT??? ?1??? OWFDJ
VE3WH ??? ?1??? NTMKO
VK2GR ??? ?3??? AXKWZ GTJBH HZURT
W0BZ ???? ?4??? EBKNA EIDBM IGPRE INVNY
W0MFQ ??? ?2??? DIIBE KZYCX
W4QDV ??? ?2??? GUQOH KBCRY
W9DLN ??? ?2??? EYQEX TWFCA
WA9AQN??? ?2??? LSLXW UEVDI
WB9RCE??? ?1??? OXANQ
WG0Y ???? ?1??? DKQNS
WM4Q ???? ?1??? FOWSO
73,
Drew/AF2Z
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Quint-
It's probably something to do with Yahoo.com email filtering. Check the trash and spam folders, not only in your email reader (if you are using one), but also online at your account on the Yahoo.com site.
If you can't find the emails I sent to you I can pass your RG12 groups to you via Ron AC2C.
Alternatively, if you have an email account with a different provider, try that.
73,
Drew/AF2Z
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On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 01:53 PM, Quint W7CQW wrote:
A mystery to me. Had no prob with RG11. If I can't find them, I will participate as a SWL for team Straight Key if SWL is allowed.
On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 3:52 PM, Jason - KO4NDP
<jason.turnage@...> wrote:
Rats, me too.? And I was looking forward to this one.? There'll always be another around the corner.
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A mystery to me. Had no prob with RG11. If I can't find them, I will participate as a SWL for team Straight Key if SWL is allowed.
On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 3:52 PM, Jason - KO4NDP <jason.turnage@...> wrote: Rats, me too.? And I was looking forward to this one.? There'll always be another around the corner.
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Hi Quint,
I replied to your two emails. Apparently Yahoo mail is not forwarding them to you; perhaps they are in your email account's spam folder. I'll try again now from a different address.
If anyone has requested a Tx List for the current event an not received it, pls post a followup here. I usually respond pretty quickly to requests during the day.
73,
Drew/AF2Z
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On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 10:40 AM, Quint W7CQW wrote:
Drew,
I have not received my 25 alfa/numerical groups yet. Checked all emails but nada. I do see you have my assignment to team "Straight Key" (trusty old J38 behind a Kenwood TS590SG).
After 3 yrs OTA, eager to start chasing the Senator. A lot to make up for !
Quint W7CQW? 4347T
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Drew,
I have not received my 25 alfa/numerical groups yet. Checked all emails but nada. I do see you have my assignment to team "Straight Key" (trusty old J38 behind a Kenwood TS590SG).
After 3 yrs OTA, eager to start chasing the Senator. A lot to make up for !
Quint W7CQW? 4347T
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Yes, and the good old 'MILL' fonts do the job also :-)
73 Wolf, oe7ftj
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Hi Drew,, I hope this gets to you. ?
I run a MacIntosh with ¡°Pages¡± ?and "Nisus Writer Pro¡± word processors. I?found slashed zeros in?Menlo 00?and?Monaco 00?fonts in both. They are probably from the same source on my computer.?I?think I am going to switch to Menlo for general use. ?Please drop me a note if you get this.?
Richard Endress (no call sign yet)?
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Rats, me too.? And I was looking forward to this one.? There'll always be another around the corner.
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If you use the Thunderbird email client it will display zeros in email messages as slashed if you select Consolas as the Monospace font in the Advanced settings panel. At least, mine does.
73,
Drew/AF2Z
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On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 04:55 PM, Dan W9DLN wrote:
Consolas works best..
Thanks Drew.
73, GL,?
Dan, W9DLN
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On Friday, April 5th, 2024 at 3:41 PM, Drew AF2Z <pubx1@...> wrote:
?Dan,
To print slashed zeros try the following fonts:
Courier
Lucida
Console
Consolas
Terminal
BTW, when you submit your copied groups always type them by hitting the "0" number key on the keyboard. Scandinavian letter O and the diameter symbol are not substitutes for numeral zero.
73,
Drew/AF2Z
On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 04:35 PM, Dan W9DLN wrote:
Is there a font I can print the list in that will tell the difference between 0 and O???
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Consolas works best.. Thanks Drew. 73, GL,? Dan, W9DLN
On Friday, April 5th, 2024 at 3:41 PM, Drew AF2Z <pubx1@...> wrote:
?Dan,
To print slashed zeros try the following fonts:
Courier
Lucida
Console
Consolas
Terminal
BTW, when you submit your copied groups always type them by hitting the "0" number key on the keyboard. Scandinavian letter O and the diameter symbol are not substitutes for numeral zero.
73,
Drew/AF2Z
On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 04:35 PM, Dan W9DLN wrote:
Is there a font I can print the list in that will tell the difference between 0 and O???
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Drew AF2Z
Jim KG0RD
Wolf, OE7FTJ
Richard Oscoda