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Smith-Jiggler OHV

 

Does anyone have any technical info on the Smith-Jiggler conversion ? Maybe old prints,
or know who might have something ?
There was a person in W. Virginia, a couple years ago, that had several head sets, but I don¡¯t have any contact info. Thank you for any help
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Bill Watson
Havertown PA? USA


Re: CJA - California Jalopy Association help wanted (Tom Luce?)

 

Below I would like to show an edited reprint commentary from myself that was in the Racing History files on July 23,2002. It is edited because part of the statement as viewed in 2024 is no longer valid. This is about the photo collection of Leonard "Pops" Van Berg and Karl Beckstrom. It's enough to make me cry.?
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This is a ultra-sensitive subject but the time has
come to vent and get feedback.
From 1952 to the mid-1970's there was a 2-man team who
were track photographers at all the oval tracks around
Southern California, including Ascot Park, Gardena
Stadium, Culver City, Orange Show Stadium and more.
The track photographers were Leonard "Pops" Van Berg
and Karl Beckstrom. They have now both passed away but
Beckstrom had said in phone conversations a few years
ago the collection was intact and sitting in a storage
shed in his backyard. I begged and groveled for access
but was turned down.

The risk is this whole collection could now wind up in
a landfill. I'm talking probably 95% of every
photograph ever taken at Ascot Park and the other
tracks during the 1950s and 1960s could cease to
exist.
What would take to reason with a person who has the
ultimate photograph collection and will never allow
anyone else to see it?
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Thomas Luce
Manhattan Beach CA USA


Re: CJA - California Jalopy Association help wanted (Tom Luce?)

 

Bob,

Thanks for clearing up the Don Paul/Don Noel situation. I wondered because I've run across some interesting misspellings in newspaper race results.
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Tom,
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I can relate as nearly everything I've had in storage suffered water or bug damage, as well as some things I kept in the house suffering water damage from a nearly imperceptible leak.
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Jim Thurman
Palmdale CA USA


Re: CJA > Culver City Race Film

 

Jim
I have been wondering when the "hardshell" helmets came into play and furthermore just when the full coverage helmets (not just a cap with earflaps) became mandated by USAC and other sanctioning bodies.
Anyone out there have a timeline for these innovations?
TIA
Smitty
Houston

On Wednesday, October 16, 2024 at 10:08:18 PM CDT, TAGGART, JAMES <james.taggart@...> wrote:


I really enjoyed the Jalopy Races from Hollywood! But, like Bob, I wondered about the date. 1952 just seem a little early.

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I noticed that one of the drivers had a full coverage hardshell helmet. When did those make an appearance?

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Even though Culver was a quarter-mile dirt track there wasn¡¯t much dust, the cars weren¡¯t sliding around that much and they were able to hold their lines pretty well. I wonder if the track had been treated ¡ª oiled dirt maybe? Looked to me like a few of those cars had slicks on the right side.

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I liked the starter, too. He had a fun little routine when the drivers were introduced and a nice little leap when started the races. Made a nice show.

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I truly wish I could have seen the races live . . . and that you still could.

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Jim Taggart

Brookings, SD

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Date: Sunday, October 13, 2024 at 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [RH] CJA - California Jalopy Association help wanted (Tom Luce?)

Actually, the race at Culver City Speedway took place on Sunday, July 18, 1954, not in 1952. The results: Don? Noel, Fred Russell, Termite Snyder in the main event in the film is the same results from the L.A. Times dated July 19, 1954. (Results from Sunday in Monday morning paper. Great film. Extremely clear.

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Bob Mitchell

Simi Valley CA USA

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Jim Taggart
Brookings SD USA

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David Schmidt
Highlands TX USA


Re: CJA > Culver City Race Film

 

Jalopy Races from Hollywood were filmed in late 1953 and early 1954. 2 seasons. 26 episodes. Only about 1/3 of all the episodes survived to 2024, and the whereabouts of the collection that had been at the UCLA Television and Radio Museum is unknown.?
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Thomas Luce
Manhattan Beach CA USA


CJA > Culver City Race Film

 

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I really enjoyed the Jalopy Races from Hollywood! But, like Bob, I wondered about the date. 1952 just seem a little early.

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I noticed that one of the drivers had a full coverage hardshell helmet. When did those make an appearance?

?

Even though Culver was a quarter-mile dirt track there wasn¡¯t much dust, the cars weren¡¯t sliding around that much and they were able to hold their lines pretty well. I wonder if the track had been treated ¡ª oiled dirt maybe? Looked to me like a few of those cars had slicks on the right side.

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I liked the starter, too. He had a fun little routine when the drivers were introduced and a nice little leap when started the races. Made a nice show.

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I truly wish I could have seen the races live . . . and that you still could.

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Jim Taggart

Brookings, SD

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Date: Sunday, October 13, 2024 at 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [RH] CJA - California Jalopy Association help wanted (Tom Luce?)

Actually, the race at Culver City Speedway took place on Sunday, July 18, 1954, not in 1952. The results: Don? Noel, Fred Russell, Termite Snyder in the main event in the film is the same results from the L.A. Times dated July 19, 1954. (Results from Sunday in Monday morning paper. Great film. Extremely clear.

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Bob Mitchell

Simi Valley CA USA

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Jim Taggart
Brookings SD USA


Re: Paul Goldsmith passes

 

I remember as a very young race fan in southern California, in the early 1960s, there was a weekly 30 minute filmed auto racing TV show called (IIRC) "Racing Wheels". and the host was (again IIRC) Stan Richards. This show was very cool because it presented a wide variety of motor sports. On the occasions? of showing NASCAR races. the names of Paul Goldsmith and Darel Dieringer were the names I remember as being very good stock car drivers. I don't believe I ever got to see them race in person, as I don't think they ever raced at Ontario Motor Speedway. But, they are both remembered by me thru the wonders of television.
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Thomas Luce
Manhattan Beach CA USA


Re: Help ID on driver

 

Thank you to all. I do appreciate?all your efforts.
?Gene Ingram
?New Castle, In.



On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 11:00?AM Randall Cook via <ndrjc1=[email protected]> wrote:
All:
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??? I agree with Mr. Salamon.? Chick Smith raced successfully for many years starting in the late 1920s.? He was killed in a Midwest Dirt Track Racing Association (MDTRA) event at Franklin, Indiana in late 1948.? From memory I believe he was driving the Doc Bowles Offy at the time.? Earlier that same day driver Les Adair was killed during a heat race.
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Randall Cook
Indianapolis, IN

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Randall Cook

Indianapolis IN USA


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Gene Ingram
List Owner
New Castle IN USA


Re: Help ID on driver

 

All:
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??? I agree with Mr. Salamon.? Chick Smith raced successfully for many years starting in the late 1920s.? He was killed in a Midwest Dirt Track Racing Association (MDTRA) event at Franklin, Indiana in late 1948.? From memory I believe he was driving the Doc Bowles Offy at the time.? Earlier that same day driver Les Adair was killed during a heat race.
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Randall Cook
Indianapolis, IN

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Randall Cook

Indianapolis IN USA


Re: Help ID on driver

 

I think James "Chick" Smith

Rich¨¢rd Salamon?
Bajna Hungary,EU


On H¨¦t, okt. 14, 2024 at 1:16, Gene Ingram
<geno1966@...> wrote:
Fellow RHers,
?I would be thankful if someone can assist in helping with an ID on the driver.
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Gene Ingram
?New Castle, In.
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Gene Ingram
List Owner
New Castle IN USA

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Richard A. Salamon
Esztergom Hungary EU

https://www.facebook.com/AAAdirtcars/


Help ID on driver

 

Fellow RHers,
?I would be thankful if someone can assist in helping with an ID on the driver.
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Gene Ingram
?New Castle, In.
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Gene Ingram
List Owner
New Castle IN USA


Off Topic: Some USAC sprints and a film on Alfa Romeo Formula One years

 

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Here are two items, each of which is OT.

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For the first, I recommend that anyone who has a FLO Subscription watch the replays of both the Friday night and Saturday night USAC sprint car races at Lawrenceburg. ??Apart from the racing, the clever hype and sometimes poetic commentary that announcers can come up with never cease to amaze me.? ?As the cars come around for the feature, you will hear ¡°get ready to rack, stack and shuffle¡± and ¡°this is what you saved your lunch money for.¡±? You will also hear (and see) Briggs Danner do a ¡°bunny hop¡± in Turn 1.? If you do not have access to FLO, you can watch highlights of the Friday night feature at and the Saturday night feature at ?

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For the second, many of you will have seen this.? It is a treasure:? a 51 minute clip from Racing Through Time on the history of Alfa Romeo¡¯s Grand Prix efforts up through 1951, then the ?Mille Miglia, at .? This has original footage of Alfa¡¯s great cars and drivers.

Enjoy.

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Bill Blaylock

Sanbornville NH USA


Re: Kurtis-Winfield or ?

 

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An interesting find.? I'm confident that is a 1950s vintage,not1940s.The De Dion rear axle and inboard brakes make me think it was purpose built for road racing.? The engine is centered in the chassis with the driver sitting to the left of the drive line that also suggests a road race heritage.? I doubt the Kurtis/Winfield connection.? If Kurtis built it, I'm sure there would be some documentation to substantiate it.? A real mystery car.


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Chuck Fawcett
Westminster CA USA


Re: CJA - California Jalopy Association help wanted (Tom Luce?)

 

Actually, the race at Culver City Speedway took place on Sunday, July 18, 1954, not in 1952. The results: Don? Noel, Fred Russell, Termite Snyder in the main event in the film is the same results from the L.A. Times dated July 19, 1954. (Results from Sunday in Monday morning paper. Great film. Extremely clear.


Bob Mitchell
Simi Valley CA USA

On Sunday, October 13, 2024 at 09:35:17 AM PDT, Tom Tlusty via groups.io <hlfuzzball@...> wrote:


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Watch "Jalopy Races from Hollywood 1952. Dirt track racing action from Culver City Stadium, California." on YouTube
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Tom Tlusty
Plymouth MI USA


Re: CJA - California Jalopy Association help wanted (Tom Luce?)

 

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Watch "Jalopy Races from Hollywood 1952. Dirt track racing action from Culver City Stadium, California." on YouTube
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Tom Tlusty
Plymouth MI USA


Re: CJA - California Jalopy Association help wanted (Tom Luce?)

 

Jalopy history update: When the NASCAR XFINITY race took place at Talladega recently and was televised on the "CW Network", local Los Angeles TV station KTLA-5 is a CW station,? and it was the first time in 59 years that KTLA broadcast a auto race, the last time was Figure-8 racing at Ascot Park Gardena in 1965.
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Thomas Luce
Manhattan Beach CA USA


CJA Driver buttons for sale

 

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Check out driver buttons for CJA drivers on ebay:


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Carey Davis,
Prescott AZ?USA


Re: CJA - California Jalopy Association help wanted (Tom Luce?)

 

I really feel bumbed out. A number of years ago I could answer all questions regarding the CJA because the information was just feet away and I? had 95+% success in my research efforts. The last few years have been challenging and all the saved research materials have suffered while in storage. I could have used 50 large waterproof plastic tubs but that was just a dream. Waterproof does not mean moisture proof. Someday in the future I hope to be able to quickly grab a document and help researchers who have followed my footsteps? for preserving racing in Southern California.?
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Thomas Luce
Manhattan Beach CA USA


Re: CJA - California Jalopy Association help wanted (Tom Luce?)

 

Jim, at Gardena Stadium in 1956 Don Paul drove #214 (Bill Mangold's race car) and Don Noel drove #188, is own car.


Bob Mitchell
Simi Valley CA USA

On Saturday, October 12, 2024 at 10:52:07 AM PDT, Jim Thurman <jim.thurman@...> wrote:


Tom,
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I wondered if "Don Paul" was a newspaper error for Don Noel instead of an alias. One week "Don Paul" was in the dash and "Don Noel" won the main. There were only one or two other appearances of "Don Paul" in newspaper results, but a lot for Don Noel.
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Jim Thurman
Palmdale CA USA


Re: CJA - California Jalopy Association help wanted (Tom Luce?)

 

Tom,
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I wondered if "Don Paul" was a newspaper error for Don Noel instead of an alias. One week "Don Paul" was in the dash and "Don Noel" won the main. There were only one or two other appearances of "Don Paul" in newspaper results, but a lot for Don Noel.
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Jim Thurman
Palmdale CA USA