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Re: New Book(s) About Supercharging and Turbocharging

 

Hello Team,
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These books are now entering the market. Amazon has listed them and with a huge discount. I don't know how long this will last!
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Absolutely right down our alley. See how many errors you can find!
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Scoles Gate Farmhouse

Hawkedon

Bury St Edmunds

Suffolk IP29 4AU, UK


Re: Again, The Seven Formula One Cars That Changed Everything

 

Thank you.

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Food for thought, and will spark quite a few heated discussions at beer time.

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Seems to give short shrift to most drivers, and doesn't even mention dominating Cosworth DFV in passing.

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From: <[email protected]>
Sent: May 4, 2025 7:30 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [RH] Again, The Seven Formula One Cars That Changed Everything

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Trying again.? I am sending the article as an attachment.? You will note a blank table? in the frame for each car.? The statistics (years in competition, etc.) did not copy to the frame but appear below the photos.
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Hopefully, it works (more or less) this time.
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Bill Blaylock
Dallas

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Sanbornville NH USA

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Bob Storck
KC MO USA


Again, The Seven Formula One Cars That Changed Everything

 

Trying again.? I am sending the article as an attachment.? You will note a blank table? in the frame for each car.? The statistics (years in competition, etc.) did not copy to the frame but appear below the photos.

Hopefully, it works (more or less) this time.

Bill Blaylock
Dallas

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Bill Blaylock

Sanbornville NH USA


Re: OT - RRDC: Statement from Bobby Rahal on passing of Jochen Mass

 

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Subject: Re: [ageandtreachery] RRDC: Statement from Bobby Rahal on passing of Jochen Mass

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Mass won the 1975 Spanish Grand Prix with McLaren. In endurance racing, Mass won the 24 Hours of Le Mans in 1989 with Sauber.

in 1985 he won the 1,000?km race in driving a Porsche 962C and in 1987 partnered with to claim victory at the 1987 race. Mass and combined to win the Champion Spark Plug Grand Prix at the Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course in .?

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Subject: RRDC: Statement from Bobby Rahal on passing of Jochen Mass

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May 4, 2025

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STATEMENT FROM RRDC PRESIDENT BOBBY RAHAL ON THE PASSING OF JOCHEN MASS:

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"I am greatly saddened by the passing of my friend Jochen Mass today. He was not just a distinguished driver but a gentlemen and true sportsman, who represented so well the sport we all love.

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"The RRDC sends its sincere sympathies to Bettina Mass and their lovely family. And to say we've all lost a great friend is a monumental understatement.

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"RIP, my friend, and thank you for the memories."

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Bobby Rahal

President, Road Racing Drivers Club

About the RRDC:

The Road Racing Drivers Club was formed in 1952 as a way to give champion drivers a say in their sport, particularly in the areas of safety, and has evolved to serve the future of road racing by mentoring new drivers on both amateur and professional levels. The Club's membership includes leading industry professionals, race officials and motorsports journalists, in addition to prominent racing names.

In 2011, the RRDC launched a free on-line training seminar ¨C?www.SAFEisFAST.com?¨C featuring RRDC members and other industry experts in high-quality videos covering subjects from physical and mental preparation to driving techniques, driver safety to car setup and sponsorship. The videos are updated regularly. Each week, a professional from the world of motor racing answers readers' questions on the site in a feature called 'Ask a Pro.'

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Bobby Rahal is President, John Fergus is Vice President/Treasurer and John Clagett is Secretary.

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The RRDC presents three annual awards: the Phil Hill Award, the Mark Donohue Award, and the Bob Akin Award.

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Membership in the RRDC is by invitation only. Additional information on the organization may be found at?www.rrdc.org.

Road Racing Drivers Club?|?rrdc.org

Road Racing Drivers Club |

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Bob Storck
KC MO USA


Re: OT -- The Seven Formula One Cars That Changed Everything

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: <[email protected]>
Sent: May 4, 2025 7:11 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [RH] OT -- The Seven Formula One Cars That Changed Everything

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OT? -- Here is a neat article that appeared on Friday, in the atmosphere leading up to the F-1 race this weekend.
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Bill Blaylock
Dallas, TX
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  1. ?

The Seven Formula One Cars That Changed Everything

From Alfa Romeo to Red Bull, here¡¯s a look at the F1 machines that revolutionized the sport over the years

May 2, 2025 9:00 am?ET


Listen

(5 min)

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Jochen Rindt driving a Lotus-Ford 72 at the 1970 German Grand Prix.The Lotus 72 in the 1970s would influence F1 design for decades.?Photo:?Hoch Zwei/Corbis/Getty Images

The first dominant machine in Formula One, 75 years ago, was the Alfa Romeo 158¡ªwhich might look like a toy by today¡¯s standards. But it was state-of-the-art in its heyday.

In recent history, it¡¯s the next-level Red Bull RB19, which in 2023 won all of but one of its 22 races.

What follows are snapshots of the seven cars that have made their mark, and their power and race-victory scoreboards.

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Alfa Romeo 158

YearS in competition

13

10

races:

wins:

1950-51

Share of win/races

77%

350 bhp

Power

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The first Formula One world championship had barely begun in 1950 when the sport discovered its first dominant machine. The Alfa Romeo 158, which was shaped like a cigar on wheels, won all six of the Grands Prix it entered that season, including three with future five-time world champion Juan Manuel Fangio at the wheel.

And its successor, the 159, would be just as successful. But the most amazing part wasn¡¯t their speed. It was that the Alfa Romeo that powered to the 1950 world championship had originally been designed 12 years earlier, in 1938.


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Lotus 72

YearS in competition

75

20

races:

wins:

1970-75

Share of win/races

27%

440¨C465 bhp

Power

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Perhaps the most revolutionary car in the history of Formula One, the Lotus 72 showed the world that aerodynamics wasn¡¯t merely a gimmick: It represented the future of the sport.

The brainchild of British engineer Colin Chapman, one of F1¡¯s mad scientists, every part of the car was conceived to maximize ¡°ground effects,¡± shaping the airflow around the car to keep it pressed to the road at high speeds and prevent it from spinning out of corners. Though it was plagued by other safety issues, the Lotus 72 would influence F1 design for decades.


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McLaren MP4/4

Year in competition

16

15

races:

wins:

1988

Share of win/races

94%

462 hp

Power

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By rights, the MP4/4 should have been a catastrophe. For the 1988 season, McLaren tore up a playbook that had delivered three titles in the previous four seasons, abruptly ditching its engine supplier in favor of a deal with??and hiring a new chief designer, Gordon Murray. Four months before the season, there wasn¡¯t even a vague sketch of what the car would look like.

When it was finally unveiled, however, it was worth the wait. The MP4/4 won 15 of the 16 races that year as McLaren stormed to the title.


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Williams FW14B

1992

Year in competition

750 bhp

Power

63%

Share of

win/races

races:

16

wins:

10

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The FW14B wasn¡¯t so much a racing car as a 200-mph supercomputer with a spoiler on the back. Equipped with the sport¡¯s first on-board computer system, almost every part of the car was at the cutting edge: Microprocessors controlled the suspension, the throttle, the traction control, even a semiautomatic gearbox.

At a time when no other F1 team was working with silicon in this way, the FW14B was faster, better and smarter. Williams won each of the first five races, clinching the world title with one third of the season still to run.


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Ferrari F2002

2002

Year in competition

835 bhp

Power

79%

races:

19

Share of

win/races

wins:

15

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When?Enzo Ferrari?founded the racing team that bears his name in 1929, his ambition was to achieve a level of supremacy unlike anything seen. In 2002, Ferrari did exactly that.

Utilizing a lightweight chassis, a powerful V10 engine and bespoke tires from??specifically designed to match Michael Schumacher¡¯s driving style, the F2002 powered the German driver to the world title by a then-record margin of 68 points.


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Mercedes W07

Year in competition

21

19

races:

wins:

2016

Share of win/races

91%

900 hp

Power

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The Lewis Hamilton dynasty at Mercedes defined the 2010s. And when he was at his best, only one other driver could get anywhere near him. It was teammate Nico Rosberg, and the reason he kept things close was that he happened to be driving the same all-conquering car.

In 2016, the W07 won all but two of the season¡¯s 19 Grands Prix and went 1-2 in eight of them. The surprising twist that year was that Rosberg managed to nose in front of Hamilton for the world championship.


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Red Bull RB19

2023

Year in competition

1080 bhp

Power

96%

Share of

win/races

races:

22

wins:

21

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The RB19 was one in a long line of masterpieces by legendary F1 designer Adrian Newey. But combined with Dutch prodigy Max Verstappen in the cockpit it became one of the greatest race cars of all time.

In 2023, Verstappen took the checkered flag a staggering 19 times in 22 races. His teammate Sergio Perez guided the RB19 to two victories of his own. The only non-Red Bull to win a race all season was Carlos Sainz¡¯s Ferrari.


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Bill Blaylock

Sanbornville NH USA

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KC MO USA


OT -- The Seven Formula One Cars That Changed Everything

 

OT? -- Here is a neat article that appeared on Friday, in the atmosphere leading up to the F-1 race this weekend.

Bill Blaylock
Dallas, TX

        The Seven Formula One Cars That Changed Everything

        From Alfa Romeo to Red Bull, here¡¯s a look at the F1 machines that revolutionized the sport over the years

        May 2, 2025 9:00 am?ET


        Listen

        (5 min)

        Jochen Rindt driving a Lotus-Ford 72 at the 1970 German Grand Prix.The Lotus 72 in the 1970s would influence F1 design for decades.?Photo:?Hoch Zwei/Corbis/Getty Images

        The first dominant machine in Formula One, 75 years ago, was the Alfa Romeo 158¡ªwhich might look like a toy by today¡¯s standards. But it was state-of-the-art in its heyday.

        In recent history, it¡¯s the next-level Red Bull RB19, which in 2023 won all of but one of its 22 races.

        What follows are snapshots of the seven cars that have made their mark, and their power and race-victory scoreboards.

        Alfa Romeo 158

        YearS in competition

        13

        10

        races:

        wins:

        1950-51

        Share of win/races

        77%

        350 bhp

        Power

        The first Formula One world championship had barely begun in 1950 when the sport discovered its first dominant machine. The Alfa Romeo 158, which was shaped like a cigar on wheels, won all six of the Grands Prix it entered that season, including three with future five-time world champion Juan Manuel Fangio at the wheel.

        And its successor, the 159, would be just as successful. But the most amazing part wasn¡¯t their speed. It was that the Alfa Romeo that powered to the 1950 world championship had originally been designed 12 years earlier, in 1938.


        Lotus 72

        YearS in competition

        75

        20

        races:

        wins:

        1970-75

        Share of win/races

        27%

        440¨C465 bhp

        Power

        Perhaps the most revolutionary car in the history of Formula One, the Lotus 72 showed the world that aerodynamics wasn¡¯t merely a gimmick: It represented the future of the sport.

        The brainchild of British engineer Colin Chapman, one of F1¡¯s mad scientists, every part of the car was conceived to maximize ¡°ground effects,¡± shaping the airflow around the car to keep it pressed to the road at high speeds and prevent it from spinning out of corners. Though it was plagued by other safety issues, the Lotus 72 would influence F1 design for decades.


        McLaren MP4/4

        Year in competition

        16

        15

        races:

        wins:

        1988

        Share of win/races

        94%

        462 hp

        Power

        By rights, the MP4/4 should have been a catastrophe. For the 1988 season, McLaren tore up a playbook that had delivered three titles in the previous four seasons, abruptly ditching its engine supplier in favor of a deal with??and hiring a new chief designer, Gordon Murray. Four months before the season, there wasn¡¯t even a vague sketch of what the car would look like.

        When it was finally unveiled, however, it was worth the wait. The MP4/4 won 15 of the 16 races that year as McLaren stormed to the title.


        Williams FW14B

        1992

        Year in competition

        750 bhp

        Power

        63%

        Share of

        win/races

        races:

        16

        wins:

        10

        The FW14B wasn¡¯t so much a racing car as a 200-mph supercomputer with a spoiler on the back. Equipped with the sport¡¯s first on-board computer system, almost every part of the car was at the cutting edge: Microprocessors controlled the suspension, the throttle, the traction control, even a semiautomatic gearbox.

        At a time when no other F1 team was working with silicon in this way, the FW14B was faster, better and smarter. Williams won each of the first five races, clinching the world title with one third of the season still to run.


        Ferrari F2002

        2002

        Year in competition

        835 bhp

        Power

        79%

        races:

        19

        Share of

        win/races

        wins:

        15

        When?Enzo Ferrari?founded the racing team that bears his name in 1929, his ambition was to achieve a level of supremacy unlike anything seen. In 2002, Ferrari did exactly that.

        Utilizing a lightweight chassis, a powerful V10 engine and bespoke tires from??specifically designed to match Michael Schumacher¡¯s driving style, the F2002 powered the German driver to the world title by a then-record margin of 68 points.


        Mercedes W07

        Year in competition

        21

        19

        races:

        wins:

        2016

        Share of win/races

        91%

        900 hp

        Power

        The Lewis Hamilton dynasty at Mercedes defined the 2010s. And when he was at his best, only one other driver could get anywhere near him. It was teammate Nico Rosberg, and the reason he kept things close was that he happened to be driving the same all-conquering car.

        In 2016, the W07 won all but two of the season¡¯s 19 Grands Prix and went 1-2 in eight of them. The surprising twist that year was that Rosberg managed to nose in front of Hamilton for the world championship.


        Red Bull RB19

        2023

        Year in competition

        1080 bhp

        Power

        96%

        Share of

        win/races

        races:

        22

        wins:

        21

        The RB19 was one in a long line of masterpieces by legendary F1 designer Adrian Newey. But combined with Dutch prodigy Max Verstappen in the cockpit it became one of the greatest race cars of all time.

        In 2023, Verstappen took the checkered flag a staggering 19 times in 22 races. His teammate Sergio Perez guided the RB19 to two victories of his own. The only non-Red Bull to win a race all season was Carlos Sainz¡¯s Ferrari.


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        Bill Blaylock

        Sanbornville NH USA


        Re: Off Topic but you guys are an excellent resource

         

        Have you checked with Gary Horstkorta? He's the SCCA historian in your area and he has been very helpful to me during my book writing projects.

        Dennis Mattish
        San Jose, CA

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        Dennis Mattish

        San Jose CA USA


        Off Topic but you guys are an excellent resource

         

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        Off topic, yes
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        But you guys are the best .... we () are looking for a high-quality print, or dare I say negative of this image.
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        It is the 9th of May 1965 at Laguna Seca .... U.S.R.R.C. and that is Ken Miles taking the checker from flagman and starter Don Seike.
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        The car is a cut-back door 289 competition Cobra CSX2431 in U.S.R.R.C. configuration.
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        We really want to make a banner and the image we have is not of the greatest quality.
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        Dave Friedman was on the opposite side of the track, so for now, the photographer is unknown.
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        Any leads would be great, thank you all.
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        You can get back to turning left, haha!
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        Brian Weatherman, archivist
        Concord CA USA
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        www.cobraexperience.org


        Re: Women racing in Ohio 1940s

         

        Hi Darren,
        I greatly appreciate your efforts and will pass on the information to the family member who needs it. Fantastic research!!
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        Thomas Luce
        Manhattan Beach CA USA


        Re: Women racing in Ohio 1940s

         

        I did search a little more in - the Lesick family seem to feature in the Salem, OH, newspapers. Found mention of a marriage license for Steve, a Helen Lesick becoming Helen Sox, but no mention of her with race results between 1935 and 1955. The only mention of Julia was that Longview result.

        Cheers,

        Darren Galpin
        Bristol, UK

        On Sat, Apr 19, 2025 at 12:31?AM Thomas Luce via <toml242001=[email protected]> wrote:
        A family member found that very result from Longview. The racing Lesick's did in fact race outside of Ohio. There were 4 racing Lesick's who hailed from Ohio. Steve Lesick who raced just about everything, Another brother lost his life in a racing accident. The 2 woman were, Helen and Julia.?
        A family member is putting together a history photo album for my mothers 100th birthday in May.?
        It appears that mom is the sole surviving member of the Lesick family from the Youngstown, Hubbard Ohio areas.?
        A little insight into Steve Lesick. His wife gave him an ultimatum: Pick racing or her, but you can't do both. Steve chose to retire from racing and become a family man. His day job was mechanic for the Blaney family race cars.?
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        Thomas Luce
        Manhattan Beach CA USA


        Re: Women racing in Ohio 1940s

         

        A family member found that very result from Longview. The racing Lesick's did in fact race outside of Ohio. There were 4 racing Lesick's who hailed from Ohio. Steve Lesick who raced just about everything, Another brother lost his life in a racing accident. The 2 woman were, Helen and Julia.?
        A family member is putting together a history photo album for my mothers 100th birthday in May.?
        It appears that mom is the sole surviving member of the Lesick family from the Youngstown, Hubbard Ohio areas.?
        A little insight into Steve Lesick. His wife gave him an ultimatum: Pick racing or her, but you can't do both. Steve chose to retire from racing and become a family man. His day job was mechanic for the Blaney family race cars.?
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        Thomas Luce
        Manhattan Beach CA USA


        Re: Women racing in Ohio 1940s

         

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        You may need to look outside of Ohio - Julia Lesick won a race at Longview, PA, in July 1940. Haven't found any pictures though.

        Cheers,

        Darren Galpin
        Bristol, UK


        On 18/04/2025 03:20, Thomas Luce via groups.io wrote:

        I had 2 aunts from my mothers side who drove race cars in the Ohio area in the 1940s. Their names are Helen and Julia Lesick. It would be so cool to find photos of them in their racing attire.? All we know is they raced but have no photos or memorabilia. Many thanks for the consideration.?
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        Thomas Luce
        Manhattan Beach CA USA


        Women racing in Ohio 1940s

         

        I had 2 aunts from my mothers side who drove race cars in the Ohio area in the 1940s. Their names are Helen and Julia Lesick. It would be so cool to find photos of them in their racing attire.? All we know is they raced but have no photos or memorabilia. Many thanks for the consideration.?
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        Thomas Luce
        Manhattan Beach CA USA


        Re: Jim Clark

         

        I agree with Dale and heard Derek's remembrance of that day in person in chilling detail. Car went into the trees, he never had a chance.?
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        Steve Zautke
        Big Bend WI USA


        Re: Jim Clark

         

        IMHO, you can do all the AI modeling you want, but lacking current telemetry/GPS tracking, video footage, or even reliable accident reconstruction prior to the impact area, ANYTHING would be dependant on a lot of supposition and guesstimates.

        The GIGO factor, Garbage In, Garbage Out would still result, and we'd be no closer to an answer ... and even then, SO WHAT!

        Yes, technology is better, and we should celebrate items like FIA mandated crash testing, six point harness, Hans devices, roll and halo structures. Even then we have incidents like Hubert, van 't Hoff, Bianchi, Wheldon and Wilson. We've advanced safety based on each loss.

        -----Original Message-----
        From: <[email protected]>
        Sent: Apr 11, 2025 10:13 AM
        To: <[email protected]>
        Subject: Re: [RH] Jim Clark

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        I realize there has been hundreds of opinions about Jim Clark¡¯s accident, but the most reasonable one I¡¯ve ever seen is from Derek Bell, who was involved in the event where Clark died. At breakfast the morning of the accident Clark told Bell, ¡° Don¡¯t get too close behind me when you come up to lap me because my car is cutting out intermittently.¡±

        I am now going to quote Derek Bell¡¯s wonderful autobiography, MY RACING LIFE as I am sure many others have an interest in the event.

        ¡°I¡¯m absolutely certain in my own mind that misfire was the reason behind his death. I¡¯ve always believed it, despite having read opinions and assessments of the accident from the host of other people, including Colin Chapman. We could go around that long, right hand curve where Jimmy crashed side-by-side even in the rain at around 150 miles an hour. But it wasn¡¯t a place where you wanted to deal with a problem.

        I think Jimmy was having a terrible time with that misfire. Running alone, battling with a poor car on tires which were not working terribly well. I reckon the engine suddenly cut out. He would have automatically applied a touch of opposite lock as the car began to slide, and then the power came back on, the rear end gripped, and the car suddenly speared off into the trees on the side of the track.¡±

        A very reasonable assessment by a man who was there.

        All the best,

        Dale LaFollette
        West Linn, OR
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        Dale LaFollette

        West Linn OR USA

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        --
        Bob Storck
        KC MO USA


        Re: Jim Clark

         

        ?I realize there has been hundreds of opinions about Jim Clark¡¯s accident, but the most reasonable one I¡¯ve ever seen is from Derek Bell, who was involved in the event where Clark died. At breakfast the morning of the accident Clark told Bell, ¡° Don¡¯t get too close behind me when you come up to lap me because my car is cutting out intermittently.¡±

        I am now going to quote Derek Bell¡¯s wonderful autobiography, MY RACING LIFE as I am sure many others have an interest in the event.

        ¡°I¡¯m absolutely certain in my own mind that misfire was the reason behind his death. I¡¯ve always believed it, despite having read opinions and assessments of the accident from the host of other people, including Colin Chapman. We could go around that long, right hand curve where Jimmy crashed side-by-side even in the rain at around 150 miles an hour. But it wasn¡¯t a place where you wanted to deal with a problem.

        I think Jimmy was having a terrible time with that misfire. Running alone, battling with a poor car on tires which were not working terribly well. I reckon the engine suddenly cut out. He would have automatically applied a touch of opposite lock as the car began to slide, and then the power came back on, the rear end gripped, and the car suddenly speared off into the trees on the side of the track.¡±

        A very reasonable assessment by a man who was there.

        All the best,

        Dale LaFollette
        West Linn, OR
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        Dale LaFollette

        West Linn OR USA


        Jim Clark

         
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        Its been 57 years since the 1968 death of Jim Clark at Hockenheim in Germany. The eye-witness accounts have been at best, very vague. What has surprised me is with the advancements in Computer technology, no one has attempted to produce a AI version of the accident. Looking at the remains of the Lotus, it just defies logic how the car ended up so dismembered like it did. An AI attempt (however flawed) would at least try to understand the trajectory and the violence of any impact. This is not an attempt to find blood but to finally (better) understand how the sequence occurred.??
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        Thomas Luce
        Manhattan Beach CA USA


        Re: Red Cross donation time again

         

        That's outstanding!! Great to hear that ? ? ? ? ??
        Thomas Luce
        Manhattan Beach CA USA


        Eddie Jordan

         

        In the long history of Formula One, amid flamboyant characters like Teddy Yip, Lucky Castner, Flavio Briatore, Mike Hawthorn, Colin Chapman, etc., Irishman Eddie Jordan rose above the throng. While other team owners sought to make their cars fast or dominating, Eddie's oft expressed desire was to make racing "sexy!"

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        If you do a search for his images, most will be splashed with his signature yellow everywhere, and invariably they will include two or more bountiful babes. The scrappy former Dublin street-trader also captured imaginations with his lucrative, swashbuckling sponsorship deals ¨C including one when he managed to convince delivery firm DHL to repaint their entire international fleet of white vans and planes with his famous ¡°Jordan Yellow¡±.

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        Eddie once recalled: ¡°We were like cowboys in the Wild West, chasing around finding money.¡± Few were his equal.

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        He was also famous for what even back in 1990 was described as an ¡°uncanny ability to spot young drivers and maximize their potential¡±.?Those he gave big breaks to including world champions Ayrton Senna, Damon Hill, and Michael Schumacher ... rescuing the future seven time champion from being a cast off who all teams had passed on for any of their series. Other F1 winners to drive for him included Eddie Irvine, Rubens Barichello, Ralf Schumacher, Jean Alesi, Martin Brundle, Heinz-Harald Frentzen and Rubens Barichello.

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        He discovered Katy Price as one of his pit girls, guiding her from tabloids to SuperModel, to TV, music and other varied careers to the heights of celebrity. She recalls: "He was a very charismatic and fun character to be around whose humor, just like himself, was unique. It's a great loss to the F1 family and he will be missed around the Paddock."

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        Jordan was a competitive driver in F2 and F3, before turning his talents to team management with his expansive promotional skills. Keen musician Jordan even played the drums in a rock and roll band ... which should surprise no one!

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        It's fitting that Eddie survived one more St. Patrick's Day and I'm sure he left with a song in heart and a pint on his lips.


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        Bob Storck
        KC MO USA


        Re: Red Cross donation time again

         

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        I do platelets on a regular basis at the Louisville, KY Center. I started that about 14 years ago.

        Claude Watson

        Corydon, IN USA

        On 3/20/2025 10:09 PM, Thomas Luce via groups.io wrote:

        I donated blood again this Wednesday at the new Red Cross facility in Torrance, CA. My O+ blood is CMV negative (an adult virus) so babies and children in need will get the blood very soon. This was a "Power Red" donation where 2-units of red blood cells are taken and the other blood components are then returned back into my system. The Red Cross has really updated their donation process and now, there is no needle sticking until the actual donation starts. That is very cool!! I just look away and the whole process is no big deal. I've been donating since 1979. I've been doing the "Power Red" donation for about 15 years.
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        Thomas Luce
        Manhattan Beach CA USA

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        Claude Watson
        Corydon IN USA