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Re: CJA - California Jalopy Association help wanted (Tom Luce?)

 

Don't mean to split hairs but that was 1957 alone he had 11 wins. He had additional wins in 55 and 56.?

Bob Mitchell
Simi Valley CA USA

On Wednesday, October 2, 2024 at 03:47:19 PM PDT, Thomas Luce via groups.io <toml242001@...> wrote:


I do have Clyde Mitchell listed in the book with 11 Main Events wins at Gardena.
The full list:
Jack Austin-20
Ed Van Eyk-18
Jim Roessler-17
Art Atkinson-14
Fred Russell-14
"Termite" Snyder-14
Bob "Lover Boy" Hogle-13
Don "Andy" Anderson-11
Clyde Mitchell-11
Freddy Thompson-10
Billy Wilkerson-10
Parnelli Jones-9 (tied)
34 drivers with 2 or more main event wins
63 drivers with at least one main event win
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Thomas Luce
Manhattan Beach CA USA


Re: CJA - California Jalopy Association help wanted (Tom Luce?)

 

I do have Clyde Mitchell listed in the book with 11 Main Events wins at Gardena.
The full list:
Jack Austin-20
Ed Van Eyk-18
Jim Roessler-17
Art Atkinson-14
Fred Russell-14
"Termite" Snyder-14
Bob "Lover Boy" Hogle-13
Don "Andy" Anderson-11
Clyde Mitchell-11
Freddy Thompson-10
Billy Wilkerson-10
Parnelli Jones-9 (tied)
34 drivers with 2 or more main event wins
63 drivers with at least one main event win
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Thomas Luce
Manhattan Beach CA USA


Re: CJA - California Jalopy Association help wanted (Tom Luce?)

 

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You can add Clyde Mitchell to the list who had 11 main event wins in 1957 alone which includes 1 at Huntington Beach which the CJA ran on a limited schedule on Saturday nights.

On Oct 2, 2024, at 2:36?PM, Thomas Luce via groups.io <toml242001@...> wrote:

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[Edited Message Follows]

Upon further review, I checked my own jalopy book. "The Masked Marvel" was in fact Rex Schendley" for a short time in the mid 1950s. And, to take it one more level, Schendley's real legal last name was "Reed".
For published racing reports, I did exhaustive microfilm research for Gardena Stadium/Western Speedway for the years 1954 thru 1963, when the CJA raced there.?
The CJA had about 382 events at the track, and about 95% of those events had basic results in the local newspapers, such as the top-3 in the main event, the semi-main winner, and the trophy dash winner. The overall results are always open to debate but are reasonably close.
Jack Austin had 20 main event wins, Ed Van Eyk had 18 wins, and Jim Roessler had 17 wins,
My favorite driver, Art Atkinson had 14 wins, Bob "Lover Boy" Hogle had 13 wins, Parnelli Jones had 9 wins, and 63 jalopy "Pilots" had at least one main event win in the years 1954-1963.
To do the same research for Culver City speedway nowadays would require many trips to a library that had the Los Angeles Times or Culver City newspaper on microfilm. Not an impossible task but very time consuming. The years would be 1949-1954. The CJA mostly raced on Sundays, but, for a period of time, switched to Saturday night. I hope this small amount of information is of use to you. Good Luck!
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Thomas Luce
Manhattan Beach CA USA


Re: CJA - California Jalopy Association help wanted (Tom Luce?)

 
Edited

Upon further review, I checked my own jalopy book. "The Masked Marvel" was in fact Rex Schendley" for a short time in the mid 1950s. And, to take it one more level, Schendley's real legal last name was "Reed".
For published racing reports, I did exhaustive microfilm research for Gardena Stadium/Western Speedway for the years 1954 thru 1963, when the CJA raced there.?
The CJA had about 382 events at the track, and about 95% of those events had basic results in the local newspapers, such as the top-3 in the main event, the semi-main winner, and the trophy dash winner. The overall results are always open to debate but are reasonably close.
Jack Austin had 20 main event wins, Ed Van Eyk had 18 wins, and Jim Roessler had 17 wins,
My favorite driver, Art Atkinson had 14 wins, Bob "Lover Boy" Hogle had 13 wins, Parnelli Jones had 9 wins, and 63 jalopy "Pilots" had at least one main event win in the years 1954-1963.
To do the same research for Culver City speedway nowadays would require many trips to a library that had the Los Angeles Times or Culver City newspaper on microfilm. Not an impossible task but very time consuming. The years would be 1949-1954. The CJA mostly raced on Sundays, but, for a period of time, switched to Saturday night. I hope this small amount of information is of use to you. Good Luck!
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Thomas Luce
Manhattan Beach CA USA


Re: CJA - California Jalopy Association help wanted (Tom Luce?)

 

Dale,

Please read:


Al Isselhard
Wolcott, NY

On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 1:53?PM Dale LaFollette via <dhlaf=[email protected]> wrote:
To The Group,

I have enclosed two photographs of Talbot race cars that raced on dirt tracks on the East Coast.? Each of these photographs are date stamped June 15, 1941 which may help you locate the actual race that they were pictured in. ?it is possible that one of the cars was driven by Zora Arcus-Duntov and it is also possible one of these cars is the one that he attempted to qualify at Indianapolis in 1946. Any help would be appreciated, thank you.

All the best,

Dale ?LaFollette

West Linn, OR
talbot (3).jpgtalbot (2).jpg

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Dale LaFollette

West Linn OR USA



--
Al Isselhard?
Wolcott, New York



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Al Isselhard
Wolcott NY USA


Re: CJA - California Jalopy Association help wanted (Tom Luce?)

 

The picture on the right (#8) is at Langhorne (the chalk apron line and the stands match prewar photos I have)...for that race both Talbots still wore #8 and #6 and had french drivers/owners. Duntov did eventually buy one of them (MD-90130)...which he raced in AAA and did take to Indy after the war (with an ardun engine swap). I do not know if MD-90130 was the #8 or the #6 car.
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Roger Linton
Valley Forge PA USA


Re: CJA - California Jalopy Association help wanted (Tom Luce?)

 

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To The Group,

I have enclosed two photographs of Talbot race cars that raced on dirt tracks on the East Coast. ?Each of these photographs are date stamped June 15, 1941 which may help you locate the actual race that they were pictured in. ?it is possible that one of the cars was driven by Zora Arcus-Duntov and it is also possible one of these cars is the one that he attempted to qualify at Indianapolis in 1946. Any help would be appreciated, thank you.

All the best,

Dale ?LaFollette

West Linn, OR
talbot (3).jpgtalbot (2).jpg

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Dale LaFollette

West Linn OR USA


Re: CJA - California Jalopy Association help wanted (Tom Luce?)

 

I actually tried to get jalopy results for the book. I went to the campus of UCI IRVINE and went thru years of microfilm. This took many trips but I published the answer in the book. I'll get the book out and report the answer.?
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Thomas Luce
Manhattan Beach CA USA


Re: CJA - California Jalopy Association help wanted (Tom Luce?)

 

The "Masked Marvel" was Rex Schendley. Unsure if last name is spelled ok. I actually saw a cool photo of Rex wearing the mask but as I recall, it was glued into an album and I didn't want to damage anything so it was not used in the book. I have moved several times in recent years and all my jalopy programs and other stuff are stored in impossible to get to places and may have suffered profound water damage from rains. Such are the pitfalls of forced downsizing. But I still have a number of jalopy books,? for what it's worth.
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Thomas Luce
Manhattan Beach CA USA


Re: CJA - California Jalopy Association help wanted (Tom Luce?)

 

I would love to see anything from Gardena, my Dad (Bob Minter) and his best friend (Steve Kennick)?raced there with their?jalopies and I have never seen any programs from back then.




On Tuesday, October 1, 2024, 2:04 PM, Bob Mitchell via groups.io <bob.mitchell56@...> wrote:

Oops.
Bob Mitchell?
Simi Valley, Ca .

On Oct 1, 2024, at 2:02?PM, Bob Mitchell via groups.io <bob.mitchell56@...> wrote:

? I have many results from Culver City from 1949-1954. I have a ton of results from Gardena Stadium end of 1954 through 1959. Would be happy to share.?

On Oct 1, 2024, at 1:46?PM, Jim Thurman <jim.thurman@...> wrote:

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Tom, perhaps somewhat foolishly, I'm trying to compile CJA race results, starting with Culver City. I would like to ask you a few questions, mainly about proper spelling or some drivers names, perhaps confused names in newspaper accounts and the like.
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And, who was "The Masked Marvel"? Is there any way we can get in contact off group? The last email I have of yours bounced.??
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Jim Thurman
Lancaster CA USA

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Jack Minter
Mission Viejo CA USA


Re: CJA - California Jalopy Association help wanted (Tom Luce?)

 

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Oops.
Bob Mitchell?
Simi Valley, Ca .

On Oct 1, 2024, at 2:02?PM, Bob Mitchell via groups.io <bob.mitchell56@...> wrote:

?I have many results from Culver City from 1949-1954. I have a ton of results from Gardena Stadium end of 1954 through 1959. Would be happy to share.?

On Oct 1, 2024, at 1:46?PM, Jim Thurman <jim.thurman@...> wrote:

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Tom, perhaps somewhat foolishly, I'm trying to compile CJA race results, starting with Culver City. I would like to ask you a few questions, mainly about proper spelling or some drivers names, perhaps confused names in newspaper accounts and the like.
?
And, who was "The Masked Marvel"? Is there any way we can get in contact off group? The last email I have of yours bounced.??
--
Jim Thurman
Lancaster CA USA


Re: CJA - California Jalopy Association help wanted (Tom Luce?)

 

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I have many results from Culver City from 1949-1954. I have a ton of results from Gardena Stadium end of 1954 through 1959. Would be happy to share.?

On Oct 1, 2024, at 1:46?PM, Jim Thurman <jim.thurman@...> wrote:

?
Tom, perhaps somewhat foolishly, I'm trying to compile CJA race results, starting with Culver City. I would like to ask you a few questions, mainly about proper spelling or some drivers names, perhaps confused names in newspaper accounts and the like.
?
And, who was "The Masked Marvel"? Is there any way we can get in contact off group? The last email I have of yours bounced.??
--
Jim Thurman
Lancaster CA USA


CJA - California Jalopy Association help wanted (Tom Luce?)

 

Tom, perhaps somewhat foolishly, I'm trying to compile CJA race results, starting with Culver City. I would like to ask you a few questions, mainly about proper spelling or some drivers names, perhaps confused names in newspaper accounts and the like.
?
And, who was "The Masked Marvel"? Is there any way we can get in contact off group? The last email I have of yours bounced.??
--
Jim Thurman
Lancaster CA USA


Re: Take the F-Word Out of Formula One????

 

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I see more baseball players mouthing F-bombs than I hear on the F-1 broadcasts. Athletes will swear in the heat of the battle. It is a dumb idea¡­forcing Max Verstappen to do public service because he swore is a very strange penalty too. They should listen to the football coaches in Welcome to Wrexham.

Dave Reese
Macungie PA

americaonwheels.org?-?Allentown's?great transportation museum
flickr.com/photos/brooklands/albums?- Some of my photo albums
tinyurl.com/BrooklandsReese?- My?new slotcar project
tinyurl.com/YTReese?- My?YouTube channel

This Day in Auto History
9.22.1919?
The Sinclair Oil & Refining Company and the Sinclair Gulf Corporation consolidated as the Sinclair Consolidated Oil Company with Harry F. Sinclair as President and with capital assets of more than $178 million.

On Sep 21, 2024, at 12:26?PM, Bill Blaylock <william.blaylock500@...> wrote:


This is OFF TOPIC, although, historically, the general topic can probably be traced back to the very first automobile race.


Here is an article on an interesting development in Formula One: ?A fascinating and fruitless effort to get sports figures to quit blurting out the F-word.? The problem is that
, unlike other sports,?in racing the sports figures' exclamations are transmitted in real time over radios.


This article explores the efforts by the FIA and others to reel in bad language from the drivers.? And it pretty much concludes: ?Yeah, ¡°$%@!,¡± ?good luck.

Bill Blaylock



The Furious Race to Take the F-Word Out of Formula One

BY JOSHUA ROBINSON

Singapore

IT HAPPENS TO EVERY FORMULA

One driver. You¡¯re crammed inside a tiny cockpit, sweating through your fireproof suit, with your foot to the floor at 200 miles per hour, when suddenly something goes wrong with your $10 million machine. Or you get passed. Or you crash.

So you drop an F-bomb. The problem is that moment of frustration isn¡¯t confined to the inside of your helmet¡ªanything drivers say is relayed back to their team over a radio. And in an age of wall-to-wall F1 race coverage, those radio communications are frequently broadcast straight to a television audience of tens of millions.

Which is why motorsport¡¯s world governing body this week asked drivers to pump the brakes on running their mouths. And on Thursday in Singapore, the world¡¯s best drivers briefly complied¡ªbut only to reply politely that they intend to keep on cursing, thank you very much.

¡°What are we, 5-year-olds?¡± defending world champion Max Verstappen said. ¡°People say a lot of bad things when they¡¯re full of adrenaline in other sports. It just doesn¡¯t get picked up.¡±

Verstappen, whose Dutch directness is famous in F1 circles, has never been one to censor himself. In fact, mere minutes before he was asked about the new recommendation, he had been complaining about the state of his car at this month¡¯s Azerbaijan Grand Prix. ¡°As soon as I went to qualify-ing,¡±?Verstappen said, ¡°I knew the car was f¡ªed.¡±

The debate kicked off when Mohammed Ben Sulayem, the president of the Federation Internationale de l¡¯Automobile, said in an interview that he had enough of drivers letting loose over the radio, even though it¡¯s usually bleeped out on the television?broadcasts.

¡°We have to differentiate between our sport¡ªmotor sport¡ª and rap music,¡± Ben Sulayem told the Autosport website. ¡°We¡¯re not rappers, you know. They say the Fword how many times per minute? We aren¡¯t on that.¡±

Seven-time world champion?Lewis Hamilton was one

BEATA ZAWRZEL/ ZUMA PRESS?Nico Hulkenberg and Yuki Tsunoda collided in Turn 1 during the Formula One Italian Grand Prix on Sept. 1.

of the few?drivers who could see his point about language, especially regarding younger fans of the sport. His issue concerned Ben Sulayem¡¯s comparison to rappers, which Hamilton felt was racially tinged.

For the rest of the field, the idea of asking drivers to stop talking like sailors seemed about as absurd as asking them to race?without wheels.

¡°For us to control our words when we are driving 300 kilometers per hour between the walls of some street track, it¡¯s tricky,¡± Ferrari driver Charles Leclerc said. ¡°We are humans after all.¡±

The irony is that these candid moments are precisely what F1¡¯s modern success has been built on. Until Liberty Media acquired Formula One in 2017, most radio communications between drivers and their teams were private. Only through F1¡¯s widespread efforts to pull back the curtain and humanize the 20 men in the cockpits did that begin to change. There were more cameras in garages, a fly-onthe- wall Netflix series, and, of course, more open radio channels.

¡°Here, probably also for entertainment purposes, things get sent out and that¡¯s where people pick up on it,¡± Verstappen said. ¡°If you don¡¯t broadcast it, no one will know¡­In general, it seems that people are a bit more sensitive to stuff.¡±

The conversation may continue, but drivers insist that this matter isn¡¯t up for debate. Cutting out cursing simply isn¡¯t an option¡ªespecially not since it might actually serve a useful purpose in the heat of a race. McLaren¡¯s Lando Norris explained that his occasional outbursts aren¡¯t always momentary fits of passion. There are instances when the most reliable way for him to hammer home the gravity of his point is to reach for a trusty F-bomb.

¡°Sometimes,¡± he added, ¡°it has a bigger impact than saying, ¡®I¡¯m not very happy.¡¯¡±


--

Bill Blaylock

Sanbornville NH USA



--
Dave Reese
Macungie PA USA


Take the F-Word Out of Formula One????

 


This is OFF TOPIC, although, historically, the general topic can probably be traced back to the very first automobile race.


Here is an article on an interesting development in Formula One: ?A fascinating and fruitless effort to get sports figures to quit blurting out the F-word.? The problem is that
, unlike other sports,?in racing the sports figures' exclamations are transmitted in real time over radios.


This article explores the efforts by the FIA and others to reel in bad language from the drivers.? And it pretty much concludes: ?Yeah, ¡°$%@!,¡± ?good luck.

Bill Blaylock



The Furious Race to Take the F-Word Out of Formula One

BY JOSHUA ROBINSON

Singapore

IT HAPPENS TO EVERY FORMULA

One driver. You¡¯re crammed inside a tiny cockpit, sweating through your fireproof suit, with your foot to the floor at 200 miles per hour, when suddenly something goes wrong with your $10 million machine. Or you get passed. Or you crash.

So you drop an F-bomb. The problem is that moment of frustration isn¡¯t confined to the inside of your helmet¡ªanything drivers say is relayed back to their team over a radio. And in an age of wall-to-wall F1 race coverage, those radio communications are frequently broadcast straight to a television audience of tens of millions.

Which is why motorsport¡¯s world governing body this week asked drivers to pump the brakes on running their mouths. And on Thursday in Singapore, the world¡¯s best drivers briefly complied¡ªbut only to reply politely that they intend to keep on cursing, thank you very much.

¡°What are we, 5-year-olds?¡± defending world champion Max Verstappen said. ¡°People say a lot of bad things when they¡¯re full of adrenaline in other sports. It just doesn¡¯t get picked up.¡±

Verstappen, whose Dutch directness is famous in F1 circles, has never been one to censor himself. In fact, mere minutes before he was asked about the new recommendation, he had been complaining about the state of his car at this month¡¯s Azerbaijan Grand Prix. ¡°As soon as I went to qualify-ing,¡±?Verstappen said, ¡°I knew the car was f¡ªed.¡±

The debate kicked off when Mohammed Ben Sulayem, the president of the Federation Internationale de l¡¯Automobile, said in an interview that he had enough of drivers letting loose over the radio, even though it¡¯s usually bleeped out on the television?broadcasts.

¡°We have to differentiate between our sport¡ªmotor sport¡ª and rap music,¡± Ben Sulayem told the Autosport website. ¡°We¡¯re not rappers, you know. They say the Fword how many times per minute? We aren¡¯t on that.¡±

Seven-time world champion?Lewis Hamilton was one

BEATA ZAWRZEL/ ZUMA PRESS?Nico Hulkenberg and Yuki Tsunoda collided in Turn 1 during the Formula One Italian Grand Prix on Sept. 1.

of the few?drivers who could see his point about language, especially regarding younger fans of the sport. His issue concerned Ben Sulayem¡¯s comparison to rappers, which Hamilton felt was racially tinged.

For the rest of the field, the idea of asking drivers to stop talking like sailors seemed about as absurd as asking them to race?without wheels.

¡°For us to control our words when we are driving 300 kilometers per hour between the walls of some street track, it¡¯s tricky,¡± Ferrari driver Charles Leclerc said. ¡°We are humans after all.¡±

The irony is that these candid moments are precisely what F1¡¯s modern success has been built on. Until Liberty Media acquired Formula One in 2017, most radio communications between drivers and their teams were private. Only through F1¡¯s widespread efforts to pull back the curtain and humanize the 20 men in the cockpits did that begin to change. There were more cameras in garages, a fly-onthe- wall Netflix series, and, of course, more open radio channels.

¡°Here, probably also for entertainment purposes, things get sent out and that¡¯s where people pick up on it,¡± Verstappen said. ¡°If you don¡¯t broadcast it, no one will know¡­In general, it seems that people are a bit more sensitive to stuff.¡±

The conversation may continue, but drivers insist that this matter isn¡¯t up for debate. Cutting out cursing simply isn¡¯t an option¡ªespecially not since it might actually serve a useful purpose in the heat of a race. McLaren¡¯s Lando Norris explained that his occasional outbursts aren¡¯t always momentary fits of passion. There are instances when the most reliable way for him to hammer home the gravity of his point is to reach for a trusty F-bomb.

¡°Sometimes,¡± he added, ¡°it has a bigger impact than saying, ¡®I¡¯m not very happy.¡¯¡±


--

Bill Blaylock

Sanbornville NH USA


Re: USAC at Allentown Fairgrounds

 

Randall:

Thanks for coming up with the years for the two races on the Allentown
film. I knew there'd be an RH member who'd have the answer. We figured
it was Mario in the #3, which would signify 1965. The earlier one we
didn't know. I was guessing early '60s, not knowing when they first
instituted the roll bars. I'm glad you enjoyed the footage and again,
thanks for your assessment of the timeline.


Will White

Quakertown, PA
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Will White
Quakertown PA USA


Re: USAC at Allentown Fairgrounds

 

Will (and Group):
?
???? That's some great footage.? Thanks for sharing!? It's always interesting when you see some films shot from the grandstand just like you were sitting there yourself.
?
????? BTW, the early footage (before the harness racing and Allentown Fair shots) are from 1957.? Notice that there are no roll bars on the cars.? Roll bars didn't become mandatory until the 1959 USAC season.? That is Tommy Hinnershitz in the #23 Pfrommer car at about 1:20 into the film which I believe makes it 1957.? Other drivers also drove #23 but that's Hinnershitz for sure in his blue coveralls and distinctive helmet which your film makes clear.? And the later footage is from 1965; roll bars by now.? Again at about 4:15 in you zoom in on a young Mario Andretti waiting to be pushed off in the #3 Gapco sprinter which is the car he drove in 1965.
?
???? Again, thank you for sharing your film!!!
?
Randall Cook
Indianapolis, IN

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Randall Cook

Indianapolis IN USA


Once a Mercedes driver, always a Mercedes driver ...

 

From a Mercedes press release:

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Remembering Sir Stirling Moss on what would have been his 95th birthday.
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Don't forget that Stirling Moss's father Alfred competed in the 1924 Indianapolis 500.?
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Bob Storck
KC MO USA


Re: USAC at Allentown Fairgrounds

 

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Will,

Thanks for sharing this footage. I don¡¯t believe I attended the Sprints those years, but I may have. I did not keep a diary back then so I have no record of the events. I did get to some of the races at the Allentown Fairgrounds before they tried to ¡®improve¡¯ the track surface and it became unusable for the horses and for the race cars. Watching the clouds of dust going over the low concrete wall into the midway was a better memory from the grandstand than from the times buying food on the midway even after the races were over. I did attend many years of the horse races with my family.

Thanks again.

Dave Reese
Macungie PA

americaonwheels.org?-?Allentown's?great transportation museum
flickr.com/photos/brooklands/albums?- Some of my photo albums
tinyurl.com/BrooklandsReese?- My?new slotcar project
tinyurl.com/YTReese?- My?YouTube channel

This Day in Auto History
?9.17.1854
David Dunbar Buick was born in Arbroath, Scotland. The Scottish-born American inventor, widely known for founding the Buick Motor Compan, headed this company and its predecessor from 1899¨C1906, thereby helping to create one of the most successful nameplates in United States motor vehicle history. In 1906, Buick accepted a severance package and left the company that he had founded, with only one share of the company in his possession. Then?president of Buick, William C. Durant, bought this share from him for $100,000.
Buick had some unsuccessful investments in California oil, and in Florida land. Buick made a brief return to the auto business ?in 1921 as the president of Lorraine Motors, and in 1923 with another automobile prototype, the Dunbar. In an interview with historian Bruce Catton in 1928, Buick admitted that he was almost completely broke, unable to even afford a telephone, and worked as an instructor at the Detroit School of Trades.?
He was inducted into the Automotive Hall of Fame in 1974.

On Sep 17, 2024, at 10:21?AM, Will White <will@...> wrote:

Fellow RHers,

My friend Guy Smith's father, Edwin, shot this film of USAC Sprint Car
racing at the Allentown (PA) Fairgrounds in, I believe, 1965 and 1966. I
thought some group members may be interested in seeing it. Between Guy
and I, we shot over 2000 racing videos over the past 40+ years, which I
am starting to share on my YouTube channel. Unfortunately, this is the
only one in our collection which is old enough to fit within the group's
guidelines.



Will White

Quakertown, PA
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Will White
Quakertown PA USA


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Dave Reese
Macungie PA USA


USAC at Allentown Fairgrounds

 

Fellow RHers,

My friend Guy Smith's father, Edwin, shot this film of USAC Sprint Car
racing at the Allentown (PA) Fairgrounds in, I believe, 1965 and 1966. I
thought some group members may be interested in seeing it. Between Guy
and I, we shot over 2000 racing videos over the past 40+ years, which I
am starting to share on my YouTube channel. Unfortunately, this is the
only one in our collection which is old enough to fit within the group's
guidelines.



Will White

Quakertown, PA
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Will White
Quakertown PA USA