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Re: Ed Winfield at Ascot

 

Same car, same location many years later with Rick Rawlins and Harold Osmer
from the Documentary film WHERE THEY RACED based on Harold's books.
for free PBS 1hr version which includes this and many
other local tracks / cars.
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Re: Ed Winfield at Ascot

 

Good point, but I'm just quoting the source.

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We've gone round and round on these terms, and decided they were regional, even promoter assigned, and went in and out of favor! Or at least, we got tired of discussing it ...

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Imagine the public confusion when NASCAR spent years recently driving Sprint Cars!

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Cheers, Bob in KCMo

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Bob,
I hate to correct you but back in those days we had midgets and BIG cars
Methinks Ed was in a BIG car
The term "sprint car" did not come along till after WWII
Smitty
Houston
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From Richard Parks' free ranging Auto Newsletter:

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A pic that turned up on the Model A forum. From Dema Elgin and Pat.

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Ed Winfield is dressed in a brownish coat, white shirt, tie and brown beret. He's driving a sprint car with the #1 on the cowl. He has a slight smile. In the background are the hills above Lincoln Ascot, in East Los Angeles, California.?


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Re: Ed Winfield at Ascot

 

Bob,
I hate to correct you but back in those days we had midgets and BIG cars
Methinks Ed was in a BIG car
The term "sprint car" did not come along till after WWII
Smitty
Houston

On Friday, September 13, 2024 at 02:08:13 PM CDT, Bob Storck <bstorck@...> wrote:


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From Richard Parks' free ranging Auto Newsletter:

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A pic that turned up on the Model A forum. From Dema Elgin and Pat.

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Ed Winfield is dressed in a brownish coat, white shirt, tie and brown beret. He's driving a sprint car with the #1 on the cowl. He has a slight smile. In the background are the hills above Lincoln Ascot, in East Los Angeles, California.?


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Bob Storck
KC MO USA

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David Schmidt
Highlands TX USA


Ed Winfield at Ascot

 

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From Richard Parks' free ranging Auto Newsletter:

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A pic that turned up on the Model A forum. From Dema Elgin and Pat.

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Ed Winfield is dressed in a brownish coat, white shirt, tie and brown beret. He's driving a sprint car with the #1 on the cowl. He has a slight smile. In the background are the hills above Lincoln Ascot, in East Los Angeles, California.?


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Bob Storck
KC MO USA


Phil Rider passes

 

?Fellow RHers,
?I'm saddened to pass along a double hit of our friends passing. Phil Rider was a RH member and well known Indy Car photographer.?

?Gene Ingram
?New Castle, In.


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Paul Goldsmith passes

 

?Fellow RHers,
?I've had the pleasure of talking with and enjoying?Paul's company at many Bench Racers banquets in the past. A pure gentleman and easy to access.?

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?Gene Ingram
?New Castle, In.


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WAY OT special request

 

Hello everyone,
I have an OT request,
I have a Dell laptop that until recently had software known as Adobe Photoshop that was part of Adobe Creative Suite 5.0.
Somehow, Photoshop got deleted and I can't find the source DVD.?
My question is does any have this somewhat older 5.0 Adobe Creative Suite? I got the school education version which is the same as the store bought version.
This Adobe software can only be used on 2 active computers so my hope is someone has it and ultimately moved on to a more current version of Photoshop.
I can return the DVD and all packaging.?
Thank you for the consideration. I greatly appreciate it.
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Manhattan Beach CA USA


Indianapolis Motor Speedway Museum to Sell a 1954 Mercedes That Could Go for $70 Million

 

Many RH members may have read of this in Indianapolis locally, but here is an article on some cars the museum is putting up for auction, including its prized W196 Streamliner.

And you will note my yellow highlighting around a statement that says about 120 cars will remain in the museum's collection.? Someone please jump in and correct me here if I?am wrong, but I had been under the impression that the museum's collection -- both on the floor and in its fabled basement -- totaled something like 300 cars.

I have never seen the W196, but I think I once saw the?1957 Chevrolet Corvette? XP64.? I am kinda sorry these cars will leave the museum.? Anyway, the article is below.

Bill Blaylock
Sanbornville, NH



Indianapolis Motor Speedway Museum to Sell a 1954 Mercedes That Could Go for $70 Million

By Jim Motavalli
?Aug. 15, 2024 3:46 pm ET
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The 1954 Mercedes-Benz W196 Streamliner could bring $70 million.

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The Indianapolis Motor Speedway? Museum plans to sell 11 highly valuable cars from its storied collection.?

They include a 1964 Ferrari 250 LM (winner of the 24 Hours of Le Mans in 1965) and a 1954 Mercedes-Benz W196 Streamliner once driven by Formula One legends Stirling Moss and Juan Manuel Fangio will be sold via RM Sotheby’s, along with the other nine vehicles,? at various company venues this year and in 2025. The Mercedes alone is valued at up to US$70 million, making it one of the most valuable cars in the world.?

A detail of the Mercedes, showing its plaid upholstery. (RM Sotheby’s photo)

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The sale is to help shore up the Indianapolis museum’s long-term prospects, Kara Kovert Pray, vice president of advancement at the museum, tells?Penta.

“These cars, including the two amazing works of art with, obviously, more of a headline to them, have been part of our collection for many years,” Pray says. “But they don’t meet the mission of our museum. We’re here to celebrate the Speedway and the Indianapolis 500. The funds raised will go into an endowment for the collection, and we’ll use the interest to make acquisitions and provide upkeep for the remaining cars—around 120 of them.”

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The W196, on display in California during Monterey Car Week, was a donation from Mercedes-Benz in 1965, and the Ferrari was acquired by the museum in 1972 from noted collector Kirk F. White, Pray says.?

Joe Hale, president of the museum, told the Indianapolis Business Journal, that the sale of the trophy cars offers a unique opportunity “to create a situation that is going to almost guarantee the future of the museum.”

“These are cars that a lot of people didn’t think would ever come to market,” says Ethan Gibson, director of communications at RM Sotheby’s.

“The W196 was raced by Fangio and Moss, and converted to a streamliner body in period,” Gibson says. “It’s one of the most significant and beautiful cars ever, and it’s up there in importance with the Mercedes 300 SLR Uhlenhaut [which sold for US$143 million in 2022]. The Ferrari won first overall at Le Mans in 1965, and it competed in that race three times. It’s top of the top.” RM Sotheby’s did not provide a pre-sale estimate for the Ferrari or other cars aside from the W196 Benz.?

This storied Ferrari 250 LM won Le Mans in 1965.

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The Mercedes-Benz was raced by Fangio at an event in Buenos Aires in 1954. Moss ran it with the later streamliner bodywork at the 1955 Italian Grand Prix at Monza. Moss set the fastest lap time at that race, earning him a point toward the World Drivers’ Championship. The Benz was then used as a practice and test car by the company before the museum donation. Obviously, both cars have appreciated hugely since they were acquired.?

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The Mercedes W196 will be sold in Stuttgart, Germany, with a date pending, Gibson says. The aforementioned 300 SLR was also sold there—at the Mercedes-Benz museum. “This will be a more public event than the Uhlenhaut sale,” he says. The locations and venues for the other Indianapolis cars will be announced later.?

Inside the all-business Ferrari racer.

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The other cars being sold are a varied lot. A 1966 Ford GT40 MK II was raced by Holman-Moody at Sebring in 1966, finishing second. It then was entered at Le Mans that year as one of three Ford/Holman Moody cars. Driven by Mark Donohue and Paul Hawkins, it retired with differential problems, but GT40s took the top three positions, a win celebrated in the 2019 film?Ford vs. Ferrari.?

The 1957 Chevrolet Corvette SS Project XP64 was magnesium-bodied and, according to RM Sotheby’s, was “Chevrolet’s first purpose-built race car.” Only two were built, the other one being a prototype. The SS competed at Sebring in 1957, with drivers John Fitch and Piero Taruffi. That would prove its only race, as a ban on motor racing was enacted a few weeks after Sebring by the Automobile Manufacturers Association. The car was donated to the Indianapolis museum in the late 1960s.?

Craig Breedlove’s Sonic One set the land-speed record five times, achieving a fastest speed of 600.601 mph. Breedlove’s wife, Lee, set a women’s speed record of 308.56 mph in the car.?

The 1928 Bugatti Type 35B Grand Prix was believed to have been raced by the factory early on. It was sold to Romanian racing driver Georges Bouriano in 1930, then it went through several owners before a donation to the museum in 1960. A 1911 Mercedes 22/40 “Colonial Car” Touring is an imposing chain-driven example built for use in South America. It retains its original Sindelfingen coachwork and is largely original. And a 1911 Laurin & Klement racer was “likely the first car every to incorporate active aerodynamics,” RM Sotheby’s says.

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The other cars are a 1908 Mercedes Brookland-Semmering Rennwagen, built for the sport of hill climbing; a 1991 Benetton B191 Formula One car driven by Michael Schumacher in 1992; and a 1907 Italia that is an early example of a Grand Prix car. It is believed to be one of only three of these cars that still exists, and it was acquired by the museum in the mid-1960s.?

The Speedway museum was opened in 1956, and originally had only 12 cars on display. Today, it has more than 55,000 artifacts in addition to its vehicle collection.?


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OT: Obituary on George Poteet

 

Bill Blaylock
Sanbornville, NH

  • George Poteet, the King of Amateur Landspeed Racing Who Said He Never Got a Speeding Ticket, Dies at 76

    He topped 400 mph at least 55 times, in a meticulously designed, carbon-fiber-clad vehicle called the Speed Demon

    George Poteet at Bonneville’s Speed Week in 2020, where he set a new national record for piston-powered cars.?Marc Gewertz
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    There are only 13 people in the world who have driven faster than 400 mph in a piston-powered car.?George Poteet?did it more times than the other 12 combined.?

    Poteet, a Memphis, Tenn.-area businessman who died July 16 at age 76, was a dominant force in amateur landspeed racing—a sport and subculture largely centered on the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah, where, for roughly a century, racers and car builders have careened across the desert in every conceivable kind of tricked-out automobile.?

    Poteet topped 400 miles an hour at least 55 times, in a meticulously designed, carbon-fiber-clad vehicle called the Speed Demon—a so-called streamliner car that he commissioned at considerable expense and that resembles a jet fighter without wings. A parachute explodes out of its back when it’s time to slow down.

    During Bonneville’s annual Speed Week in 2020, Poteet solidified his reputation by setting a new national record for piston-powered cars—which is to say, cars that are cars, with car engines inside them, and not cars with jet engines or rockets bolted onto their backs. (People used to race those at Bonneville too, but it’s no longer allowed.) The old record was 417 mph. Poteet obliterated it: 470.015.?

    George Poteet’s vehicle, which he called Speed Demon.?Photo:?Michael Harrington

    But Poteet actually went faster than that. Some complicated fine print: The Southern California Timing Association, which oversees Speed Week, logs official records not as a driver’s absolute top speed but as an average of the fastest mile from each of two consecutive runs across the salt. (The driver who goes fastest on a single run every year does get their name on a trophy, however—and Poteet’s name is on it 10 times. Meanwhile, a separate, international organization, the International Automobile Federation, operates its own sanctioned events according to slightly different rules; Poteet has set six of its world records, too.) Anyway, during one of Poteet’s record-setting passes at Bonneville in 2020, the Speed Demon hit 481.576.

    At 481 mph, a car is traveling one mile every 7? seconds; you could drive the entire width of Manhattan in about as much time as it takes most people to sing the alphabet. At such velocities, even Poteet’s highly specialized, extra-burly tires basically became disposable. They were often torn up so brutally after a single run that they wound up looking like shredded black garbage bags.?

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    As it happened, right after Poteet did 481 at Bonneville, the next driver in line went faster than?丑别’诲?ever gone before too. But, this racer wrote in an online tribute, “We were still 310 mph slower than George.”?

    Poteet was a conspicuously even-keeled man who spoke in a slow, imperturbable drawl. In real life, on real roads, he claimed to have never gotten a speeding ticket; he was frequently tailgated, impatiently passed. “I know people make fun of me on the express lane,” he told the Oil & Whiskey podcast in 2022.?

    It started with a ’53 Dodge

    George Roundal Poteet was born Feb. 22, 1948, on his family’s small hog and cow farm in Mantachie, Miss. Neither his father, a sharecropper, nor his mother, a garment factory worker, had even a high-school education.

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    “Back then,” Poteet explained on the Hot Rod Blues podcast, “you had three modes of transportation: a bicycle, a horse or a worn-out car…. I decided it would be easier to keep a car running than to try to catch a horse every time you wanted to go somewhere.” He became infatuated, working on his mother’s ’53 Dodge, swapping out and upgrading parts. “His goal was always to have it go faster, go faster, go faster,” said his sister, Betty Poteet Howard.

    Poteet married while still in high school. (According to his family, the marriage ended after seven or eight years.) By age 18, he was working in a tire factory to make ends meet—and miserable. He tried a shoe factory and a meatpacking plant but hated them too.?

    In 1970, he moved to Memphis to take a job with National Safety Associates, which sold fire alarms and smoke detectors, then water and air filters. Eventually, in 1993, as a vice president overseeing logistics, Poteet helped the firm transition into nutritional supplements, marketed as Juice Plus+.?

    Poteet would work at the company for 50 years, retiring in 2020. The business made Poteet wealthy, and he channeled that wealth into cars, commissioning increasingly ambitious custom hot rods, re-creating all kinds of cars he had spotted in his youth and yearned to own. He kept roughly 120 vehicles on a several-hundred acre property near Holly Springs, Miss., which he called his “car farm.”

    Poteet loved to find relatively unknown, young hot-rod designers and set them loose, without too many guidelines or constraints. Several won awards for the cars they built him, establishing their careers.?

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    “He gave so many guys like me a chance,” said designer and builder Troy Trepanier, one of several stars of the industry whose first paying customer was Poteet. He was, essentially, a patron of the hot-rod arts. The motor-sports writer Brandan Gillogly has called Poteet “the Medici of the Mississippi.”

    Breaking the 400 mph barrier

    Poteet went to Bonneville for the first time in 2001 as a spectator. Soon, he was returning year after year with a succession of roadsters that he tried, and failed, to push past 200 mph—the first big milestone chased by drivers at Speed Week.

    He accomplished it finally in 2006, after commissioning from Trepanier a chopped 1969 Plymouth Barracuda that he named the “Blowfish.” From there, Poteet joined with a well-known Bonneville record-setter, Ron Main, and engine builder Kenny Duttweiler to create a streamliner called the FlatFire, soon redesigned into the EcoFire, and eventually retooled into the first Speed Demon in 2008.?

    Meanwhile, Poteet had been going faster and faster every summer, ascending toward 300, then blowing past it, and gradually setting his sights on 400. He first made that breakthrough in 2010—but only barely. “I was ashamed of 404,” Poteet said.?

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    George Poteet with two Speed Demon models in 2021.?Photo:?Marc Gewertz

    Longtime Bonneville racers were accustomed to rich men sweeping onto the scene with loads of cash and loads of bluster and trying to go as fast as possible during their first year on the salt. But Poteet earned the community’s respect by methodically working his way up the ladder and learning as he went, setting records for one class of engine type at a time. (He set more than a dozen Southern California Timing Association records in all.) “That’s the smartest way to go about it,” said Dave Lane of FastLane Rod Shop, who has built cars for Poteet. “You can’t pretend that just because you got a lot of money you know what you’re doing.”?

    Poteet was also lending out roadsters to give other guys the opportunity to drive 200. If another racer’s engine busted during Speed Week, he offered spare parts. He quietly paid for generators, hotel rooms and other equipment to help the event run smoothly. Once, he sold a roadster for $5 to a longtime competitor whose grandson wanted to race at Bonneville. For years, Poteet kept the man’s five-dollar bill in his pocket—a private point of pride. (At work, a Juice Plus+ spokesperson added, he often privately paid for car repairs and even family funerals for employees who needed help.)

    19 seconds of mayhem

    In September 2014, during another event on the salt flats, Poteet lost traction in the Speed Demon while going 380 mph. (“You can get on the internet and google ‘Speed Demon Crash,’ ” Trepanier said. “You’ll s— your pants, I promise you.”) In the?, the vehicle yaws left, skids on its side, bounces, rolls around and around, skids more, flips, skids again, rolls a bunch more times—it’s difficult to count—travels upside-down for a while, then flips back on its side and eventually stops.?

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    This mayhem lasted for 19 seconds and unfolded over a stretch of desert roughly the length of a football field.?

    “I basically just grabbed the steering wheel and sat there until it stopped rolling,” Poteet told Oil & Whiskey. He’d fractured a vertebra and broken multiple ribs but had no intention of going to the hospital until a crowd of concerned friends and crew members finally bullied him into it. The next day, he flew home.?

    After the wreck, Poteet bought out his partner, Main, and commissioned a new Speed Demon. Then he quickly continued his climb, culminating in his 470 mph record in the AA Class at Bonneville in 2020.

    From there, the only obvious goal remaining was 500. But Poteet was clear-eyed about the obstacles. The problem wasn’t horsepower, he insisted; he was more concerned with maintaining traction at that speed, the unpredictability of the course conditions every year and, ultimately, his own durability. He was in his 70s now. Plus: “Going that fast, it’s suicidal, to be honest with you,” he told Hagerty Media in 2019. “When you get into your 45th time [going 400 mph] you think, ‘This is pushing your luck.’ ”?

    After topping out at 466 mph in 2021—only?466—Poteet expressed discouragement. It was crazy, he told Hot Rod Blues in early 2022: “Everybody thinks it was a horrible year for us!…I think you lose a little bit of the fun when you get to that point. I’m not looking near as forward to it this year as I was 10 years ago.” He’d be going back to Bonneville mostly not to disappoint his crew, he said, and a grandson and great-grandson who’d taken an interest in the scene.


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    Sanbornville NH USA


    Re: Gordon White found safe and fast

     

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    What a guy!!!!!!

    E. Dean Butler
    Broughton Green UK


    On Aug 9, 2024, at 4:51 PM, Gene Crucean <genecrucean@...> wrote:

    A good read.... Gene Crucean

    From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]> on behalf of Gene Ingram <geno1966@...>
    Sent:?Friday, August 9, 2024 9:12 AM
    To:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>
    Subject:?[RH] Gordon White found safe and fast
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    ?Fellow RHers,
    ?Gordon White has been a busy guy getting ready to set speed records.
    ?Thanks to Dave Rex for this article.



    Gene Ingram
    New Castle, In.



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    Re: Gordon White found safe and fast

     

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    An inspiration !

    Lee Stohr

    Port Angeles, WA


    From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Gene Ingram <geno1966@...>
    Subject: [RH] Gordon White found safe and fast
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    ?Fellow RHers,
    ?Gordon White has been a busy guy getting ready to set speed records.
    ?Thanks to Dave Rex for this article.
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    Gene Ingram
    New Castle, In.


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    Re: Gordon White found safe and fast

     

    Sisu, Forte' and an inspiration for us all!

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    Note that his wussie namesake Jeff Gordon retired from competition barely into his 40s!

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    A good read.... Gene Crucean

    From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Gene Ingram <geno1966@...>
    Subject: [RH] Gordon White found safe and fast
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    ?Fellow RHers,
    ?Gordon White has been a busy guy getting ready to set speed records.
    ?Thanks to Dave Rex for this article.
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    Gene Ingram
    New Castle, In.

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    Re: Gordon White found safe and fast

     

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    A good read.... Gene Crucean


    From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Gene Ingram <geno1966@...>
    Sent: Friday, August 9, 2024 9:12 AM
    To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
    Subject: [RH] Gordon White found safe and fast
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    ?Fellow RHers,
    ?Gordon White has been a busy guy getting ready to set speed records.
    ?Thanks to Dave Rex for this article.



    Gene Ingram
    New Castle, In.



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    Gordon White found safe and fast

     

    ?Fellow RHers,
    ?Gordon White has been a busy guy getting ready to set speed records.
    ?Thanks to Dave Rex for this article.



    Gene Ingram
    New Castle, In.



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    And yet another midget for sale on ebay

     






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    Bill Blaylock

    Sanbornville NH USA


    1932 midget, V-8 60 for sale on ebay

     





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    Re: This is way OT and will ruin your Saturday "to do" plans

     

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    Bill,

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    I would add this one to the mix of great race cars being offered.

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    Bart

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    From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Blaylock
    Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2024 8:33 AM
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    Subject: [RH] This is way OT and will ruin your Saturday "to do" plans

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    I apologize?in advance for being so way OFF TOPIC, but Sotheby's has released its catalogue for an upcoming classic car auction.? Some examples are below.? I would also note that there reproductions peppered throughout the catalogue, some of which are powered by electric?motors.

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    The link for the complete catalogue:

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    Re: This is way OT and will ruin your Saturday "to do" plans

     

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    Complaining, just kidding.? I would be checking out the Gooding and Sotheby's Pebble Beach auctions soon anyway.? 186 lots at Gooding right now.


    Lee Stohr
    Port Angeles, WA

    On 8/3/2024 11:58 AM, Edward Dean Butler via groups.io wrote:

    Lee:

    Are you bragging or complaining?

    E Dean Butler
    Broughton Green, UK


    On Aug 3, 2024, at 7:52 PM, Lee Stohr <leestohr@...> wrote:

    Thanks, it's 12 noon and I haven't had breakfast yet and now I'm looking at 206 car lots on Sotheby's !

    Lee Stohr

    Port Angeles, WA



    I apologize?in advance for being so way OFF TOPIC, but Sotheby's has released its catalogue for an upcoming classic car auction.? Some examples are below.? I would also note that there reproductions peppered throughout the catalogue, some of which are powered by electric?motors.


    The link for the complete catalogue:


    Bill Blaylock






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    Port Angeles WA USA


    Re: This is way OT and will ruin your Saturday "to do" plans

     

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    Lee:

    Are you bragging or complaining?

    E Dean Butler
    Broughton Green, UK


    On Aug 3, 2024, at 7:52 PM, Lee Stohr <leestohr@...> wrote:

    Thanks, it's 12 noon and I haven't had breakfast yet and now I'm looking at 206 car lots on Sotheby's !

    Lee Stohr

    Port Angeles, WA



    I apologize?in advance for being so way OFF TOPIC, but Sotheby's has released its catalogue for an upcoming classic car auction.? Some examples are below.? I would also note that there reproductions peppered throughout the catalogue, some of which are powered by electric?motors.


    The link for the complete catalogue:


    Bill Blaylock



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    Lee Stohr
    Port Angeles WA USA


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    E. Dean Butler
    Broughton Green UK


    Re: This is way OT and will ruin your Saturday "to do" plans

     

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    Thanks, it's 12 noon and I haven't had breakfast yet and now I'm looking at 206 car lots on Sotheby's !

    Lee Stohr

    Port Angeles, WA



    I apologize?in advance for being so way OFF TOPIC, but Sotheby's has released its catalogue for an upcoming classic car auction.? Some examples are below.? I would also note that there reproductions peppered throughout the catalogue, some of which are powered by electric?motors.


    The link for the complete catalogue:


    Bill Blaylock



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    Lee Stohr
    Port Angeles WA USA