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hi
i have a prm 4021 which does not transmit but works ok otherwise.
can anyone help? circuit diags? handbook? any advice would be much
appreciated.
regards dave

Hi Barry

Thanks for the clarification, I didn't think that the Jag's were pc
programmable, it was just a comment that someone made to me that they
were.
The panther 2000's I was not so sure about, in the manual it mentions
a 'standard dos based program', 'allows spectrum information and
codes to be prepared on a pc prior to entry into the radio', followed
by mention of a 'dedicated programming device SW3601'. for more
details, refer to OPerators manual Ref. IH120.

That's what had me wondering.

Regards
Tony



--- In Racal-manpacks@..., "Barry" <barry.chapman@...>
wrote:

Hi,
The Jaguar V and the Panther V 2000 are not PC programable. The
Panther V EDR is via a RS232 fill gun emulator. to program the old
ones you need a BCC706A fill gun, for the EDR a BCC706C fill gun.

If you have not got any of these then you'll have to imput via the
keyad.

Hope this helps

Barry

-- In Racal-manpacks@..., "Tony" <ffr58kk90@> wrote:

Hi

Thanks to everyone for the reply's I appreciate that the sets can

be

programmed from the front panel, this is ok but having to do a

few

sets, plus a mix of Jag / panthers and PRM4740 which is a real

pig

to

program from the top rotary knobs, I am looking for some way to

fill

them all the same either by programmer or fill gun or pc whatever.
Just thought that if a programmer existed for the pc, it would be

worth

looking out for.

regards
Tony

Ira,
Probably best advice, overall: I'm not personally familiar with the BCC39D, but I'm sure someone else out there has had dealings with it?
Unless you are very sure about a particular model, the zeroize facility can be a bit high risk, depending on the intended usage and fill of the radio: I irretrievably wrecked a SINGCARS UHF/sat packset some years back (which belonged to USA, as opposed to UK PLC) by casually using the zeroize facility to clear a crypto fill I had loaded incorrectly. I did'nt know it then, but was subsequently very firmly advised that the zeroize feature on that set was also intended to permanently destroy the internal memory chipsets and software in the event of capture.
It did....
It took several slabs of beer, a couple of sets of Goretex and a pair of Lunghag boots to source another packset and shift the blame elsewhere.

Too much technology, low tech has it's endearing features at times! PRC 77's still work....
Rgds
Al

________________________________

From: Racal-manpacks@... on behalf of Ira J. Moser
Sent: Sun 01/10/2006 20:38
To: Racal-manpacks@...
Subject: Re: [Racal-manpacks] IRIS BCC39D Questions



Thanks Alan,

I've not tried the button, as the people at combatradio said it wasn't a
good idea ;)
Any other background info on this radio? Or is it kind of an 'orphan'?

Later,

--Ira

Belton, Alan wrote:

Ira,
If all is working as it should, the "zeroize" position on the
programming switch should only zero information you have entered or
filled, not the entire contents of the radio (hopefully!). Having said
that, there is usually an internal back-up battery in that range of
radios, and I know that if this has failed, the zeroze facility can
sometimes take out more than it should. Probably best to over-write
info as opposed to zeroize it if not sure, as the zeroize option was
more for rapid deletion of information held in the radio in the event of
capture, etc.
Rgds
Al

-----Original Message-----
From: Racal-manpacks@...
[mailto:Racal-manpacks@...]On Behalf Of Ira J. Moser
Sent: 28 September 2006 02:17
To: Racal-manpacks@...
Subject: [Racal-manpacks] IRIS BCC39D Questions


Anyone out there in Radio-Land have manuals for this beast? Looks like

a model between the 39B and the PANTHER-H. Has an internal ATU, and
LED display. (This is an HF set)

Also, will the ATU tune an external antenna, or just the whip?

Can't seem to figure-out the TX/RX split-frequency mode, either.

There's a guarded 'ZEROIZE' switch position. Does this just erase the
freqs? or turn the radio into an expensive 'brick'?

Thanks,

--Ira

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Thanks Alan,

I've not tried the button, as the people at combatradio said it wasn't a good idea ;)
Any other background info on this radio? Or is it kind of an 'orphan'?

Later,

--Ira

Belton, Alan wrote:

--
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Ira J. Moser, Owner, MECO
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Fax: (360) 794-8754
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Orwell was an OPTIMIST!

Try programming a PRC-132 sometime :) One 0-9 rotary switch, and three buttons. AND you have to load TX/RX freqs....

I imagine that the SF guys hated this radio, especially if they had to load 30 freqs in 10 or more radios :)

--Ira


Tony wrote:

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Orwell was an OPTIMIST!

Hi,
The Jaguar V and the Panther V 2000 are not PC programable. The
Panther V EDR is via a RS232 fill gun emulator. to program the old
ones you need a BCC706A fill gun, for the EDR a BCC706C fill gun.

If you have not got any of these then you'll have to imput via the
keyad.

Hope this helps

Barry

-- In Racal-manpacks@..., "Tony" <ffr58kk90@...> wrote:

Hi

Thanks to everyone for the reply's I appreciate that the sets can be
programmed from the front panel, this is ok but having to do a few
sets, plus a mix of Jag / panthers and PRM4740 which is a real pig

to

program from the top rotary knobs, I am looking for some way to fill
them all the same either by programmer or fill gun or pc whatever.
Just thought that if a programmer existed for the pc, it would be

worth

looking out for.

regards
Tony

Hi

Thanks to everyone for the reply's I appreciate that the sets can be
programmed from the front panel, this is ok but having to do a few
sets, plus a mix of Jag / panthers and PRM4740 which is a real pig to
program from the top rotary knobs, I am looking for some way to fill
them all the same either by programmer or fill gun or pc whatever.
Just thought that if a programmer existed for the pc, it would be worth
looking out for.

regards
Tony

Hello All;

I have a pair of PRM-4720's. Do any of you have any info about these units
like, "specs", "ops" and/or "service" manuals....

Thanks;

Paul Gilmore
VA3PRG
Skype ID-cproc2coy
pgilmore@sympatico.ca

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Dave,
Welcome to the group: pretty new to it myself, radio amateur since 1976, mostly into Clansman stuff like 320's and 353's, but have Jaguar's as well now (much more civilised) Apart from Clansman, have tech and operators manuals for BCC66, and tech manual for 1851 if thats any use?
Getting operational locally on 6m and 4m once aerials rigged, hopefully (in North Essex).
Rgds
Al

Ira,
If all is working as it should, the "zeroize" position on the
programming switch should only zero information you have entered or
filled, not the entire contents of the radio (hopefully!). Having said
that, there is usually an internal back-up battery in that range of
radios, and I know that if this has failed, the zeroze facility can
sometimes take out more than it should. Probably best to over-write
info as opposed to zeroize it if not sure, as the zeroize option was
more for rapid deletion of information held in the radio in the event of
capture, etc.
Rgds
Al

Anyone out there in Radio-Land have manuals for this beast? Looks like a model between the 39B and the PANTHER-H. Has an internal ATU, and LED display. (This is an HF set)

Also, will the ATU tune an external antenna, or just the whip?

Can't seem to figure-out the TX/RX split-frequency mode, either.

There's a guarded 'ZEROIZE' switch position. Does this just erase the freqs? or turn the radio into an expensive 'brick'?

Thanks,

--Ira



--
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TEL: (425) 788-0208
FAX: (360) 794-8754
WEB: www.meco.org
EMAIL: ira@...


Orwell was an OPTIMIST!

hello
just a few words about myself.name is dave been a radio ham for
about 28 years ,collect military radio kit mostly racal but some
redifon/plessey/eddystone.latest kit includes tra 3900's prc2000 and a
prm4021 with a transmit problem.work as a telecoms repair engineer
based in the northeast of england.
regards dave

--- In Racal-manpacks@..., "ffr58kk90" <ffr58kk90@...>
wrote:

Hi
Does anyone have any schematic diagrams for the BCC66H Jaguar radio?
I am trying to get rid of the 150hz tone on tx, in the alignment
instructions, it explains how to measure it but doesnt go into any
detail as to how to adjust it.
Speaking to non-military radio's is a no-no with the tone present at
the intended level.
Any help appreciated.

regards
Tony

hi tony
just joined the group and read your post.i have manuals for the
bcc67/767 which i have found to be very similar as i had the same
problem with the tra3900's i use.
the mod i had to fit was a 10k pull up to one pin of thecpu module.
i will sort out the pin number and let you know

regards dave
'

Yes, if you go past the "stop" on the programming and mode switches to the right hand positions
Rgds
Al

________________________________

From: Racal-manpacks@... on behalf of Tom B
Sent: Wed 27/09/2006 22:40
To: Racal-manpacks@...
Subject: Re: [Racal-manpacks] Jaguar / panther programming



Hi Tony,

Can anyone here clarify for me, are the jaguar and panther VHF radioa

programmable from the pc.
I know one can use the MA4073 programmer /MA4083 fill gun (if you can
find one, they seem to be like hens teeth!) but have recently been told
that there is/was available a pc programmer part number :-SP3635

Can't the Jaguar be programmed from the front panel?

Tom Bryan







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Hi Tony,

Can anyone here clarify for me, are the jaguar and panther VHF radioa

programmable from the pc.
I know one can use the MA4073 programmer /MA4083 fill gun (if you can
find one, they seem to be like hens teeth!) but have recently been told
that there is/was available a pc programmer part number :-SP3635

Can't the Jaguar be programmed from the front panel?

Tom Bryan

Have'nt heard of any PC programming facility, unless it was towards the end of their production (first sets would have been in pre-Windows days, when PC's were not as freely available as later on.) I think the programmer/fill guns were more for bulk-filling an issue of sets to save time, although the sets I've used were all front-panel programmable, which is a bit time consuming, but gets there in the end, depending whether you load just clear channels, or hopsets, etc.
Rgds
Al

________________________________

From: Racal-manpacks@... on behalf of Tony
Sent: Wed 27/09/2006 16:58
To: Racal-manpacks@...
Subject: [Racal-manpacks] Jaguar / panther programming



Hi
Can anyone here clarify for me, are the jaguar and panther VHF radioa
programmable from the pc.
I know one can use the MA4073 programmer /MA4083 fill gun (if you can
find one, they seem to be like hens teeth!) but have recently been told
that there is/was available a pc programmer part number :-SP3635
Anyone any ideas?

Regards
Tony








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Hi
Can anyone here clarify for me, are the jaguar and panther VHF radioa
programmable from the pc.
I know one can use the MA4073 programmer /MA4083 fill gun (if you can
find one, they seem to be like hens teeth!) but have recently been told
that there is/was available a pc programmer part number :-SP3635
Anyone any ideas?

Regards
Tony

Hello All;

I have a pair of PRM-4720's. Do any of you have any info about these units
like, "specs", "ops" and/or "service" manuals....

Thanks;

Paul Gilmore
VA3PRG
Skype ID-cproc2coy
pgilmore@...

Try this web site:

www.preciousthingsonline.com

Guy's Name is Gordon Sowden. Also have his e-mail. Out of the UK, he
seemed to have the parts without problem. Got a NOS handset, NOS
Antenna & used battery for the TRA-906M (PRM-4051) Had to do a quick
rewire on the handset (internal, using a flat head screw driver), and
had to re-cell the Battery pack. Good guy to work with, took a while
for the stuff to arrive to Ohio . . . all was very good. Web site
requires a plug-in. His web sales address is:

sales@...

Good Luck,
John Golub
KC8JZO
Dayton, OH. USA